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According to testers the game is nowhere near finished and still in Alpha. Retailers blew the launch date which is the 30th of June, right after the movie which makes sense since it's giving people free WoW.

So, that's 3 months to create a finished expansion. Alpha players are saying at blizzards current pace it's impossible. So will this be the most rushed shit expansion ever?
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Retailers dont know shit, they put out guesses at releases all the time

June 30 wont happen, expect a September launch
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>>332656347
>Retailers blew the launch date which is the 30th of June
Blizzard claimed September, which sent everyone into a rage. Then, knowing that was too soon, they removed that estimate entirely.

Yes, the alpha is fucked. They claim they are going into the beta stage, but the game is broken. It's WoD 2.0.
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>So will this be the most rushed shit expansion ever?

That would be quite a feat anon given how wod went, but you know what, i fully believe in blizzards ability to rush out dogshit like never before. They literally don't give a flying fuck what they put out, cause the fans will gobble that turd up no matter what. They'll complain, but they'll still buy it and play it.
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>>332656619
They got Legion boxes with Sell On June 30th forms.

It's confirmed.
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>>332656845
retailers dont know shit. they never have and never will.

fuck off with your anti-shill shitposting thread
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>>332656841
You can settle down
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>>332656347
It is Blizzard, Anon. They will deliver maybe half the stuff they had promised and then give you some of the rest as content patches. "It's done when it's done" hasn't been their motto in a long time.
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>>332657175
Settle down
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>>332656928
>>332656619

Even if retailers were wrong blizzard IS giving free WoW with purchase of the movie ticket. Now tell me, how likely is it that they retain anyone from this promotion if all these brand new players start playing with Warlords talents and class design then later get the rug pulled out and have to relearn everything?

MMO vets are used to this stuff but brand new to MMO players? They'll say fuck it and never play again. Blizzard should be smart enough to avoid this so it only makes sense to have the expansion rushed out in late June with pre-patch going a few weeks before so they people getting ticket WoW start with Legion class design and talents.

That's just logic talking though and we know blizzard severely lacks that these days
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>>332656347
>According to testers the game is nowhere near finished and still in Alpha.
Anything that explains how? I want to know how badly Blizzard fucked this up.
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>>332656841
fuck yourself
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>>332656347
Sounds like every wow xpac ever to me
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>>332656347

>trusting retailers on release dates
>2016

ishygddt
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>>332657290
The consensus is they hired so many new faces that the time required for them to "get up to speed" was much longer than anticipated.
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>>332657381
Wrath sure as fuck wasn't rushed.
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they could just delay the game, it's not like that has never happened before.

People will be mad but it's better to take their time than rush an incomplete game. Just make another ruby sanctum or timeless isle like patch to keep autists happy until Legion
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>>332657445
But where was this information posted?
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>>332657597
there's a blue post explaining it. I could dig it up or you could do so yourself.
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>>332657582
I don't think Ruby Sanctum made anyone happy
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>updated animations across the board
>progressing the story
>class relevant storyline
>Tirion being raised as a deathknight

I won't defend blizzard but I'm optimistic desu
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>>332656347
They are taking their time to improve things and make them feel right. From what I know from WoWhead so far its all looking really good! They still have nearly 3 months to finish it.
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>>332657679
Post it.
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>>332657716
>being optimistic after wod
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>Copying Wildstar and FFXIV: The Expansion

Wew lad
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From what I've played around with on alpha, it isn't that buggy and unplayable. Everything I've done have been 90% completed, few bugs, few things missing etc, nothing major.

Pic related, the holy pala artifact before they nerfed it's scale.
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>>332657582
They're maybe at 3mil subs now. Last hotfix removed some kind of server pop inflation and all those servers still showing "High" all of a sudden dropped to "Low" in primetime. Now during primetime only 2 servers break "High" and none hit "Full". There's more "Low" than "Medium" now with the only "High" servers being the ones that were on the recommended for new players list when the Hearthstone promotion happened.

In other words the subscriber report isn't needed. They've lost a ludicrous amount of players.
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Legion will be the first of annual, yearly expansions.

You can't expect this to be good.
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>you will never getinto the alpha or beta
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>>332657893
its still really big even after they reduced its size

still looks like a 2h, which is a cool throwback to the wc3 paladin
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>>332657893

jesus christ that size lol
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>>332657994
Yes it does. Point anywhere in my post where i said it looked good. It was just the first screenshot I had ready from alpha.
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>>332657994
>cuck
Are you 12?

It's time to learn some new words
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>>332658117
cuck
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>>332656347
I've been following the alpha content daily for a while now and from what I can tell you're off you're rocker. All class specs have been introduced sans destruction lock and most of the zones are finished.
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>>332657275
The strategy people are using to sell carries is by stacking mages. If they left everything alone, everyone would only level mages.
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>>332657553
yeah because azjol nerub made it in as a big zone into the game, right
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>>332657738
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>>332656790
-Nost player
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>>332658181

>That 10 second Mythic Iron Reaver kill with like 10 mages
>1 of them did 1.1 mil dps
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>>332657275
They could put out a prepatch on June 30 and launch the actual expansion later in the year. Seems like they are focusing on class changes for just this reason,
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>>332657738
t. blizzard shill
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>>332658028
Looks more like a 1h now. Just took this screenshot.
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They are already giving me delicious fury animations. Even if the game is a bit rushed it's all I need.

https://youtu.be/dL658Cf_QBQ
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The June 30th date is a guess and I can't find anything of people form the alpha saying this game is nowhere near beta stage.
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>>332658364
It's smaller but definitely still bigger than most 1h
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>>332657994
Who cares about the artifact weapons? Anyone with half a brain cell is going to transmog over them.
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>>332658442

I sure can't wait to see retarded flashy particle-heavy animations and SWOOSH sounds every half second from every single character in PvP.
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>have perfectly good glaive models already in the game
>don't implement them
>don't even give them to demon hunters so they can transmog their artifacts
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>>332657716
>Tirion being raised as a deathknight
no spoilers?
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>no level 110 talents
or would that cost another raid tier?
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>>332658442
>new models
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>still playing WoW
jesus fucking christ dude kill yourselves already
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>>332658772
Bro. You know nothing about sounds an effects if you think this warrior spell is annoying.
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>>332658607
Doomhammer in comparison. The world server is down, so couldnt show it off on a male tauren, it starts as ele.
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>>332658949
Also Nazgrim
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>>332658974
Artifact talents and PVP talents and legendary gear are being added instead of 110 talents
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>>332657701
Kept my guild and I playing though. Even though the great Cata nerf patch made us quit.

I don't understand why people don't want something to do. Aside from raiding nothing in WoD was toppest quality and people would bitch about a hold over raid?

Whatever
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Any good MMO's left?

I can't stand WoW and Nost is run by monkeys that can't fix 9 month old bugs that have been reported over 10k times.

Probably for the best since WoW is entering it's Antique years. Like how Warcraft 3 inspired WoW, WoW (sadly) inspired Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm.
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>>332657716
>>332658949

Tirion isn't confirmed. Nazgrim most likely is.
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>>332658207
don't forget this anon
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>>332657893
that retarded look on his face
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>>332659305
ff xiv desu
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>>332659380
>her
Randomizer
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>>332659305
>Probably for the best since WoW is entering it's Antique years. Like how Warcraft 3 inspired WoW, WoW (sadly) inspired Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm.

That's...super depressing.
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>>332659379
Dance Studio!
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>split all the existing rogue talents into 3 separate talent trees
>remove more abilities than add any
>call it 'new content' and 'an updated class'
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what the fuck?
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>>332659793

They'll probably be explained by the same redemption that made TBC Draenei possible.
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>>332659189
Yes, and? No reason not to add cheese on the bread even if you're using more expensive meats already.
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>>332659793
TELL ME THIS IS FUCKING FAKE
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>>332656347

What the fuck is going on at Blizzard?

>literally no new content for almost a year since 6.2 in live.
>Legion allegedly has been in development since before WoD launched
>They should have their entire team working on it around the clock
>They have double the team size they had for MoP
>Somehow they are behind schedule and we aren't even in beta yet at this late stage.
>Lots of people leaving Blizzard like rats on a sinking ship

Did they just allocate everyone from the WoW team to Overwatch/Hearthstone/HotS? Is WoW development using a skeleton crew of mostly Diablo people?

It doesn't make sense that they can be this behind and this disorganized. When they are doing nothing new for live and have had much more free time to work on this expansion than previous ones.
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>>332659793
its that demon hunter from blasted lands that took control of the dreadlord that was possessing him

he is back to kill demons
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>>332659891
they have to ship the game at some point

adding 110 talents to every class in addition to the other character building systems would probably delay the game for months

everything has an opportunity cost and they chose to implement the other stuff instead.
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>>332656671
Might actually be worse. WoD was shit but it was completed shit.
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>>332659936
>What the fuck is going on at Blizzard?
They probably split their team with Hearthstone, LOTV, HOTS, and Overwatch. They don't have separate departments for each game, and the employees get moved around a lot between them.

Probably also working on a D3 expansion
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>>332656347
>It'll be shit

You're three expansions behind slowhop.
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>>332659793
April fools?
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>>332660136

>completed shit.

Yeah, you know, except the islands that never made it to release.
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>>332660136
>WoD was shit but it was completed shit.
No it wasn't. They had to cut content and isolate an entire zone at launch because it wasn't finished.
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>>332660030
Hitting 110 is going to feel really fucking flat if all you get is an imaginary pat on the back.
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>>332657553

>An entire zone cut (Azjol'Nerub)
>Was later said to be cut to be turned into an Azjol'Nerub raid
>Gets cut again into two leveling dungeons
>Anub'Arak gets killed in it
>People so fucking picked they had to bring him back as a raid boss in ToC

>Questing nearly completely cut from Crystalsong Forest

>3 Dragonflight sanctum raids cut (Azure, Verdant, and Bronze)

Wotlk had its fair share of cuts.
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>>332660136
>WoD was completed

Opinion discarded at light speed
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>>332660573
Don't forget Air battles, dance studio, and all the sanctums we didn't get.
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>>332660793

And they even printed the air battles onto the physical box.
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>Legion is at serious risk of somehow being more rushed and having even less content than Warlords
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>>332659936
With Jews u lose
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>>332660136

Are you joking? WoD Was is a train wreck of cut content.

>Both Faction Hubs
>Chronal Spire, Farahlon.
>Tanaan delayed twice
>Shattrath raid
>Zangarmarsh and Fungus Whale Boss
>Cut Battleground
>Normal and Heroic Scenarios cut
>Blood Elf models delayed to 6.1
>Yrel's "Dark Secret" plotline
>Tabard Tab
>Multiple islands including an unnamed Ogre island
>Medivh reappearance
>Gorehowl legendary weapon
>Grommash final boss
>Hairstyles that were complete/near complete and simply not added
>Ancient Rylaks
>Orgrim Doomhammer quest line
>Trial of the gladiator

WoD has a fuck ton of cut content, and is nowhere complete. WoD claimed to have the biggest developement team they ever had, but it is the most content deprived of any expansion.

They clearly were trying to give us schlock to force the legion narrative, illidan's return, and the Legion expansion as a whole.
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>>332660793

>Air Battles

I remember them saying that this was hard to pull off, and that a "3D" fighting environment felt really weird(But they later had Vashj'ir in Cata which had the same problem)

>Dance Studio

This was always an aprils fool joke from what I remember. But there was supposed to be new dances in Wrath.

>Sanctums

I mentioned that in my first post.
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>>332660793
>Air battles
vehicle combat is awful
>dance studio
meme
>sanctums
agreed, fuck blizzard, desu
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>>332661507

Air battles weren't gonna be vehicle combat, it was supposed to be mounted combat.
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>>332660136

>WoD
>Completed

>Several zones not in the game at launch, the capital cities scrapped.
>Tons of backpedaling on flying (they said it be in by 6.1). >Grommy was suppose to be the expansion baddie, instead they pulled Archi out of their ass and retconned the shit out of the lore.
>All the hype surronding the Warlords is quickly dashed as they are killed off in the most pathetic ways possible (exception being Blackhand).
>Orgrim Doomhammer's 'cameo' where he gets BTFO by Blackhand in fucking quest.
>Not all the new character models where available at launch.
>Literally zero new content for the first patch.
>Second patch finally introduces Tanan Jungle which should have been in at launch.
>Ends up being an even bigger pile of shit than Timeless-Isle somehow.
>Faralon was jokingly turned into a facebook mini-game mission location.
>They promised the shipyard wouldn't be Garrison 2.0. It was exactly that.

I can keep going but just thinking about that piece of shit expansion rustles my jimmies.
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>>332659936
preparing to go f2p, most likely
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>>332661592

>Literally zero new content for the first patch

It had the selfie cam, what the fuck are you talking about?

What more did you need? Can you not be such an entitled shit? Thanks.
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>>332659793
He got so corrupted he actually went to the other end of the spectrum and became a beacon of pure light

He's still an asshole though
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>>332661769

>A man become so pure evil he became pure good

What a crazy time to be alive.
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>Legendary-quality food
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>>332660573

Yet when compared to Cata/WoD it was substantial in terms of content. I'd say the last quality expansion Blizz made was MoP. Furry memes and weeaboo bullshit aside. It used a completely new art style for zones. New race/class, shitty new minigame, a lot of new lore (some great like Mantid). If you ignore how long Siege of Ogrimmar lasted; MoP was a great expansion.

Funny enough, my biggest and only complain with MoP was all the shitty Orc shenanigans near the end. They should have stuck with the Mantid/Mogu/Zandalari stuff all the way through.
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>>332661713

t. Blizzard shill aka 'Metzen is balls deep in my throat & I love it.'
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Can anyone post anything to back this up?
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>>332660304
>>332660356
>>332660698
>>332661140
>>332661592
Looks like i was wrong. It's just shit.

Fuck Blizzard.
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>>332659356
>Tirion isn't confirmed

Someone didn't look at the latest build.
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>>332662132

I'm not saying WotLK had less content, it's still my favorite expansion, ICC was a great raid in my opinion.

Merely stating it had its fair shake of cut content. Cata was lacking, no one's gonna argue that.

I agree with you on MoP, and I actually remember at launch MoP's problem was actually giving you too much to do out of the gate. Way too many reputations with like 8-12 quests a day you did for meager reputation.

Pretty good items were gated behind reputations as well, and they all took forever to get with the exception of a few.

MoP eventually hit its stride with ToT though, and after that MoP was pretty good, SoO too. Just not do it 4 weeks a month for 13 months in a row good. No raid is that good, not even HFC.
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>>332656347
People still play WoW? Most of my former WoW friends all dropped that game years ago and moved onto LoL/Dota or FF14 Heavensward.
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>>332661973
Oh my fucking kek this game is truly done
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>>332662642

Source then.
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>>332658364
Is this a joke? Is it actually that big?
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>>332662785

>Just not do it 4 weeks a month for 13 months in a row good. No raid is that good

True, at least with DS and ICC we had 3 dungeons attached to the raids. For what it's worth I prefered that model of gearing than Timeless-shit.
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>>332660283
>modern Blizzard
>putting THAT MUCH resources into a April fools
come on man, thats like atleast 5 store mounts of time and resources wasted
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>>332657275
7.0 is going to be out for the movie. Their free month will conveniently expire when the new expansion is out
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>>332658364
As of the alpha right now. It should have stayed this size >>332657893
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>>332658442

A shame Fury's rotation is utter garbage at the moment. Furious Strikes needs to fucking go.
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>>332663204
>7.0 is going to be out for the movie.

but there isnt going to be any content in 7.0, just ability pruning and a pre-expansion event you can finish in an hour
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>>332663310

>Fury's rotation

kek, you should try Havoc DH. It's like Fury except somehow with less buttons.
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>>332663402

You can make and play through the intro for DH
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>>332663071
Meet At The Gates
Speak with Darion Mograine.
Prepare for Invasion
Prepare for Invasion.
Raise Tyrion Fordring
Raise Tyrion Fordring

http://www.wowhead.com/news=252126/legion-3-30-build-design-notes-and-new-models-doomhammer-offhand-horse-mounts
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Are they actually going to be able to finish legion for September?
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>>332663507

wow, a whole intro
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>>332659793
>DKs raise TIRION as a DK
>Dreadlords counter-attack by getting a dreadlord paladin
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>>332663612
They're doing balance passes now, so content should be mostly finished and in the tuning stage. They should be ready in 3 months tops assuming they aren't completely incompetent. Which they could be.
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So Calia Menethil is wasted as a follower, and there's an Initiate Whitemane listed as a DK follower. Lucky DK's getting to brainwash and used Whitemane like a fuck toy.
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>>332663542
>Tyrion

Did he change his name after dying?
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>>332663612

Yes, if by "finish" you mean "release it in a state comparable to Warlords' launch, and then promise better things in the next patch that they won't deliver on."

Loyal shit-eaters and whales will continue to lap it up.
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>>332663612
It's going to be rushed to meet the release date of the Warcraft movie.

If you thought WoW was infested with normies and farmville moms now, wait until the movie drops.
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>>332663661

Oh, I'm not trying to sell you or anything. Just saying that's the biggest selling point for 7.0.
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>>332662334
here
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>>332663706
I'd like to imagine that Balnazzar thought it'd be funny in an ironic kinda way to have Dreadlords in the ranks using the Light to kill Paladins after he killed Tirion and put his resources into trying to do this.
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>>332663894
Yeah, these source-less posts are very reliable.
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>>332663789
>It's going to be rushed to meet the release date of the Warcraft movie.
Source?

Oh right youre just pulling it out of your ass
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>>332663849

It would be one thing if we got the whole class, letting people experience it in the actual game world and letting Blizzard balance out what we find before Legion hits. But we're just getting the intro. We can't take them anywhere. Because they're probably the biggest selling point of the expansion.
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>>332663951
>Balnazzar is the leader
>when fucking Mephistroth is still alive and current leader of the Nathrezim after Tichondrius fell
I wish Blizzard would remember their own lore.
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>>332664125
You realize after the intro you are free to roam
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>>332664327

They have directly stated you cannot.
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>>332664118
Source: I work as a general manager at GameStop

It's all about marketing and promotion with Blizzard, what better way to market your game than release it alongside a highly anticipated movie. You bet your ass Blizzard won't miss the chance to make good money from dumb normies.
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>>332663951
>Okay, we're getting fucked in the ass by demon-hunters and undead
>What should we do?
>Paladins.
>GENIUS.

It all makes sense.
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>>332664395
>Source: I work as a general manager at GameStop

How's life? Question, who even comes into Gamestop anymore? Like everyone I know just downloads games now.
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>Source: I work as a general manager at GameStop
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People still play this?

Jesus.
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>>332664480
I live in a Hispanic/Nigger community in Miami Dade, tons of people still come to my GameStop store to buy or trade in games. People want their games now instead of waiting days to download 50GB from Sony or whoever slow ass shit servers.
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>>332663542

Lol. How retarded.
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Who cares. FFXIV is the new MMO king.
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There is no way they can release WoD in June or July, it would be a suicide.
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>>332664327

No they're not, because they go directly to legion content after the intro. They can't get out of the DH zone to go do Vanilla-WoD Content.
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>>332664395
>I work as a general manager at GameStop
>mfw reading this when I make 80k a year
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>>332664223
Memphistroth is in legion and leading them. People just think that's balnazar because he likes to be a pretend paladin
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>>332664223
In accordance with the WoD demon immortality retcon, Tich should still be alive.

Mal'Ganis and Bally dying 3 times and coming back should be irrefutable proof of this.
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I thought they already said it wasn't going to launch until Q3-4.
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>>332664716
This. WoW is fucking dead and anyone who still cares about themepark MMOs moved onto the new themepark.
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>>332664820
Yes they can. Early Access to Demon Hunters starting at 100 in the Legion Prepatch of WoD was a preorder bonus for fucks sake.
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>>332664890
What was Mal'ganis death two and three?
Him pretending to be the admiral ended with him running through a portal saying you fucked up big time.
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>>332664902
September 30th is the latest Legion will release.
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Blizz should delay til December

im sick of cut content in expansions
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>>332665038

You can do their entire zone, and quest chains which get you to level 100, but you can't leave that area until launch.
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>>332664890

When has Mal'Ganis ever died?
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>>332659936
Blizzard alphas are just betas, and when they flop to beta it just means final phase, nothing changes and is set to release in two months
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Can't wait for drones to bitch and moan again because they are incapable of moving on with their lives.
Game is 11 years old, people who still play this game are absolutely pathetic.
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>>332666296
UTHER, GLAD YOU COULD MAKE IT
and in WotLK
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>>332666691
Anyone who had any sense quit the game after Bolthar told Tirion and the player to leave this place and never return at the final cutscene of WotLK.
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>>332666691
It's crazy how they seem unable to stop the fall, it's like they never learn.
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>>332666723

He doesn't die in the culling of strath for two reasons.

1. That's in the past and wouldn't matter.
2. He didn't die in Culling of Stratholme in the past either

Mal'ganis escaped Culling and taunted Arthas. Go play Warcraft III and CoS again.

Where and when else has he "Died" ?
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>>332657893
Wouwwwww looks nice.
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>>332657893
my client keeps crashing when i try demon hunter, and it seems tuning for damage numbers never even started since boomkins and unh dks do 10x anyone else on dmg meters
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>>332668025
I had no problem doing the DH start zone, or rather, my friend finished it. About a month ago.
No they are still balancing stuff, you can't rely on any numbers in the alpha, or even spells, talents. Everything can be changed in less than a week.
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It's not coming out in June, I'd expect a late July/early August release.
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>>332657445
I thought that was their excuse for WoD but they reassured everyone they knew what they were doing now
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>>332659872
But according to the most recent lore Dreadlords are the original demons the were never corrupted so how can they be redeemed
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>>332661973

>ONE MIRRION HEALTH

Didnt they roll back a lot of the numbers? Jesus Christ.
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>>332668716
They clearly fucking don't, the WoW team now consists of a bunch of San Fran SJW interns.
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>>332669345
>Didnt they roll back a lot of the numbers?

they did, if it wasnt rolled back we would all have 100 million health
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>>332669476
Being led by Jay Wilson
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>>332665795
>2 years of no content on an already barren expansion

I can only imagine the butthurt.
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>>332656347
People still play WoW? Is this 2008?
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>>332670735
>he thinks /v/ actually plays the games they whine about
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>>332664890
>In accordance with the WoD demon immortality retcon
It's not a retcon, we have known for a long time that you have to kill demons in the twisting nether to kill them for good

We have killed balnazzar like 5 times since wc3
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>>332666691
>headcanon shitposting

Pathetic
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>>332671230
but before it was only the dreadlords now it every demonic thing
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>>332671230
That used to be just assumed about dreadlords
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>>332671230
The single-demon for all of the multiverse thing is an asspull, though.

It makes no sense considering they were all mortals at some point before beefing up on Sargy power and fel-juice.
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>>332671118
Outside of /v/ who the fuck still plays WoW? Shit is dead on the North American side. Only poorfag EU people and RMT chinks play this shit
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>>332668025
>my client keeps crashing when i try demon hunter
are you playing a male night elf? theres a bug with them right now that causes the client to disconnect
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>>332671367
magic aint gotta explain shit
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>>332671367
Dreadlords at no point weren't demons. Theyre like the sole reason he flipped his shit after the eredar retcon. Now they're half again with the void nonsense
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>>332663402
for a new player there's more than a handful of expansions to play through, a game to learn, classes to experiment with, gameplay to get acquainted with, etc. 7.0 will be massive for those just starting to play, just the same way WoW is already overwhelming for new players.
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>>332671346
It wasnt explicitly stated that other demons couldnt do the same thing

We 100% knew that dreadlords had that ability and assumed it was unique to them

>>332671367
Prince Malchezaar
>"All realities, all dimensions are open to me!"
>drops Gorehowl, a weapon that should never have been there

Not a total asspull, but it was definitely unexpected that such a little tidbit of lore would become a major plot point.
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>>332671689
but you get a free boost to 100
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>>332671367
>It makes no sense considering they were all mortals at some point before beefing up on Sargy power and fel-juice.
No

Mortals can become demonic with enough fel energy, but the demons that Sargeras fought and imprisoned were formed in the twisting nether and were never been mortal beings.
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>>332671714
Yeah it was always a possibility. Just something that we knew was concrete about them
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>>332656347
>according to testers

Which testers are you referring to? Because most of the big alpha players have been saying they think it's getting pretty close to completion at this point. It's still called alpha but there's more than enough content to justify it being a beta. Think about it.

>all zones are out
>all professions are in
>all specs except for destro
>all dungeons and their heroic versions
>all class halls and subsequent questlines, artifact etc are nearing completion
>raid testing is taking place

What else is there to test? Challenge mode dungeons? And that's it.
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>>332671848
if you buy legion, sure, but we're talking about new players here. and when defining new players i assume we're on the same page here, defining them as those who bought the movie ticket and, if the proposed marketing goes through, they only get the game up to WoD with no boosts, correct?

i think if legion launches on june 30th, it's a sound strategy for blizzard because they can cash out on level boosts, but on the other hand, what investment does a new player have in a game he's played for a week, doesn't understand, and isn't particularly motivated o progress in? there'll always be people that don't mind throwing money away to 'be the best' immediately (and they'll be sorely disappointed), but i doubt that'll be a significant majority, especially that's well over 100 bux in transactions.
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>>332671959
>big alpha players
the ones closest to blizzard and are basically glorified PR? they only have the most positive things to say? wow who woulda thunk it, huh?
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The very same testers who have been playing non-stop and being recently doing raid content

ok m8
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>>332671959
They throw alpha keys around like it was in beta. I got a key, normally not that many get alpha keys, but I got one. Have gotten beta for other expansions.
So treat it like a beta.
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>>332672351
See, with a post like this you make it too obvious that you're just a shitposter.

First, a lot of the big testers (fatboss, preach) aren't afraid to criticize blizzard when they want, they do it all the time. You would know this if you were paying attention.

Second, at least attempt to refute my points in the original post. It's a genuine question, what else is there to test? I forgot to mention PvP in there, but again, that has been basically set in stone talent-wise at this point, minus the exact damage numbers.
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>>332668025
>and unh dks do 10x anyone else on dmg meters
Isn't broken as fuck AoE dps DK's thing? Even Blood DK's always get retarded DPS in previous expacs cause of their aids.
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>>332672837
>Preach
>Opinion worth listening to
>Opinion not covered in Blizzard jew gold
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>>332672868
It was their thing in WOTLK, but they've normally just been good at AoE, not absolute gods other than that.
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