Where were you when the Roller Coaster Tycoon series died?
Browsing /v/ while taking a shit, apparently.
>>332624074
you mean 30 years ago?
Holy fuck I hope it has Facebook Integration!
>Early Access
I dunno. I was probably eating lunch. I've eaten lunch a lot of times in my life.
>>332624359
>a small team of Europeans made a city game vastly better than EA's weird, cartoony abortion,successfully selling over 2 million copies based off of word of mouth and actual good game design
Why is every new game shit now?
>>332624074
i was sat at home browsing /v/ when frontier ring
"no worry planet coaster not kill"
"yes"
and you???
>>332624359
Do you need a powerful pc to run a city this large? Haven't played the game yet.
>>332625036
>planet coaster
Wait, what the fuck, the RTC3 devs are making a new unlicensed RTC game?
That's great news, hope it does well
>>332625123
Even good pcs can barely run this unoptimized piece of garbage. Im glad I didnt but this shit early access.
>>332624074
Why leave out the part where it says Early Access?
>>332625370
You need glasses anon-kun
>>332625271
Yes. Frontier got done with having to listen to publishers so now they publish all their own stuff.
It also means they couldn't make an official RCT game, so they decided to create their own IP.
It's looking pretty good so far, you can really customize your scenery to make it look and feel like an actual themepark.
But since it's in really early alpha, there's not much to do yet.
There is no management yet in any form and officialy the coaster creator isn't released yet either, although you can use cheats to access an early build of the coaster creator.
>>332625479
I am mistaken.
I was at home
>>332625370
You know damn well why it released in early access.
They can't release this turdpile as a finished game, but since it's in development hell, Atari wants to see returns on their investment now.
It won't improve much from here and it will most likely be abandoned in a few months when they slap a finished label on the same release you have now.
>>332625318
Cities Skylines wasn't early access was it?
>literally fucking up your sound design this badly
https://youtu.be/UDA7AENLkBc
>all those videos of peeps just disappearing mid ride
>fuckton of other glitches
>seems to have actually gotten worse since the abortion of a beta they did a while back
>mods are in full lockdown on their official site to try and cover up negative feedback being on every page
MOVE OVER SIMCITY 2013
>the idiots defending this abomination on steam forums
Let's play a game /v/
Let's see who can get banned from the RCTW forums on steam faster.
Try to get banned by actually bashing their crappy game, don't go simply calling others niggers.
GO!
>>332624074
I don't know why anyone ever expects a 3D RCT to ever be more well made than RCT1/2. Nothing will ever beat them. They are very well made, and the visuals are timeless. There's literally no reason to make any more entries in the series, as people can just add on to the old ones or create their own scenarios.
>>332625794
I think he's talking about rct, cities runs damn well for the most part
>>332626842
Planet Coaster is looking pretty good though.
>>332625036
>planet coaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IidS719MxbA
Das it mane.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx8-Cy_abRQ
I don't remember where I saw it, but someone posted retarded internet comments where Rollercoaster Tycoon "fans" were insisting on buying this over Planet Coaster, because this one had the same name as the original series, even though the original devs are the ones making Planet
>RCTW is not a Return to Castle Wolfenstein thread
>>332625271
>Roller Toaster Cycoon
>>332626041
damn these peeps look terrible
>>332626842
>as people can just add on to the old ones
>just
yeah nah. Modding for RCT1/2 is pretty fucking hard.
>>332624937
Because we want repeated experiences of our favorite games. Something new that doesn't enrich our nostalgia = shit.
>game uses Unity
>>332624074
This game looks like it was developed by kids who were making some project for college.
The dream is dead.
>>332625036
I thought Planet Coaster would look and play like shit when I heard it was announced.I was very wrong.
I'm still playing RCT2.
There's nothing dead about it.
Shitposting on here
>>332633206
Why don't you play OpenRCT2?
>>332633735
But I do!
>>332633067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o16e9daqGko
>well that's catchy but it's probably gonna end up shit and there is hardly any gameplay showing
>ended up being bretty gud
It feels good to be pleasantly surprised now and then in this industry.
What I don't get is, did anyone expect this to be good?
They kept talking about how they were working closely with Six Flags, and that they'd studied the style and ride-architecture behind real rides, and all this endless bullshit.
Because Rollercoaster Tycoon has always been such a REALISTIC portraying of what it'd be like running a park, right?
The original RCT games were a portrayal of what every kid thought the manager of a theme park did. It had layers upon layers of depth under that, but it never sold itself as a realistic portrayal of what a theme park manager did.
It's another case of a developer who has absolutely no idea what their audience actually want, and instead try to feed them the "realism" meme.
>>332635281
That was all the marketing department.
The developers just sat on their ass all day wondering how the fuck they were even supposed to make a PC game, since they have no fucking experience developing games whatsoever.
>>332635805
You honestly don't think there's any correlation between marketing and development?
I can't pretend to know who struck first, but at some point some organ of the company said "RCT needs to be more realistic!". And no one ever corrected them, so they just kinda' rolled with it.
Now we'll have RCT: Memename Edition.
>>332635281
>Because Rollercoaster Tycoon has always been such a REALISTIC portraying of what it'd be like running a park, right?
A little, kinda. I still remember the foreword by the consulted Ride Designer in Roller Coaster Tycoon Deluxe's manual.
His whole spiel was that the game would allow you to what he did, not in 20 years but 20 minutes. Pretty good foreword.
>>332635249
Why didn't atari just give up and cancel rctw after seeing planet coaster?
>>332635281
It's Master of Orion 3 all over again.
Is this the worst game ever made by a well known publisher?
So did Mattlab (the guy communicating shit all the time on the official forums) commit suicide or something? He hasn't spoken since launch.
>>332630576
OpenRCT2 will change that when it's eventually finished. They plan to do something like OpenTTD
Were people even looking forward for this? I forgot it existed
man I only just discovered Planet Coaster today and now I'm super fucking hyped.
I just want another game like RCT 1&2 so badly, it hurts just to think about what they've done to the series.
>Oh cool Roller Coaster Tyc-
>That price
>>332625271
Except RTC3 was a bit shit?
And Rollercoaster Tycoon 1/2 was a pretty shameless Theme Park knock-off, only, unlike TP, it became popular in the US for whatever reason
>>332640861
>the price
>not the quality
>>332641197
You don't understand anon, I never got that far cause I saw the price and closed the tab.
>>332641275
It's only 16 euros if you don't buy it from the steam store orfree on your preferred torrent site.
But even both of those aren't worth it.
People have been wanting to hate this game since basically day 1. I doubt you can trust people to fairly assess its quality or lack thereof.
>>332641632
Really, go try out the game.
It's way worse than RCT3.
Everything is just so fucking clunky to use.
>>332624074
RCT died with RCT 3. This is just a post-mortem spasm.
>>332641701
Well, I'm not going to pay however-much-it-costs to try it when I haven't liked a sim since the original Theme Park on Amiga.
I'm not saying its good, it just feels like there's a pile-on effect.
>>332641898
FUCK, I lied, I liked SimTower too.
>>332641898
>waaah people shouldn't criticize the game, they're just haters
>won't try it myself though to form an opinion ayyylmao
>>332624359
>2fps
Kek.
Ok, looked at a video, just looks like it feels like it needs a thick layer of polish and few decisions need revising in terms of camera and ride placement. Definitely feels like an Early Access game rather than a finished title.
Doesn't look like the trainwreck I was expecting given the way people have been shitting on it.
Then again, maybe I just have high tolerance for this sort of shit. I never understood the sheer loathing Duke Nukem Forever got either, despite its issues.
>>332642672
You know what the thing is? They said half a year ago that the game was almost done and just needed some polishing. It was supposed to release months ago.
The only reason it's early access now is because they just can't seem to get that polishing right. It's in development hell.
They also really need to hire an animator. All the animations look so amateuristic.
I kinda feel sorry for the devs, the game screams "Here develop a full management sim before planet coaster comes out"
Considering the game has gone through 2 other developers as well, I do think there is more going on besides them just releasing a shitty game.
All aboard the Planet Coaster Mine Train
>>332643351
Don't feel sorry for them. They're clearly too inexperienced for a game this big. They never developed a title this large before. It were all small mobile indie games and shit.
They never should have gotten the contract to develop RCT in the first place.
>>332643567
I do wonder if they actively took it up or if it was forced onto them.
>>332643567
Atari doesn't have money to hire a major developer. They're pretty much a shell company that licenses out its brands.
How is it possible to have this terrible performance with these ugly graphics?
Even GTA V with everything on maximum runs smoother on my pc than this game on medium.
>>332644578
Unity, plus it's very easy to make a simulator like this that is massively CPU intensive. Old sim games basically cheated to create the illusions of simulation, but modern devs don't like to do that
>>332644859
Well these devs don't seem to like to do anything at all.
>>332645597
It's because the leap from faux-simulation to real simulation is huge, and the sort of low-level CPU optimisation required is a dying art.
>>332624359
How noob friendly is it?
I want to get into city Sims but I remember playing Sim city 4 rush hour and fucking up things fast. Of course that was 8 years ago but who knows.
>>332646283
I think you'll do fine.
You literally can't make this shit up.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Who approved this stuff?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDA7AENLkBc
I-it's just an april's fools joke, right?
They'll release the real build on Friday, r-right?
>>332640778
Parkitect might be more up your alley if you want RCT1&2. Just bear in mind that it's also early access
>>332647958
Isn't that game just a literal reskin of RCT2?
>>332624074
>$50 for an Early Access game
>>332648170
Don't worry, the game is already finished.
They're just too embarrased to call it a real release.
>>332624769
>>332640897
either way, planet coaster looks really fucking good
>>332624292
That's how most things happen.
>>332635281
Original did too. Some of the theme parks were based on real ones.
The big thing that made it good was probably that it was machine level coded by a developer that was passionate about the subject. He kept it simple, but because of that everything worked beautifully.
I remember even back then it was panned for its graphics. But graphics only mean so much.
Anyone got a comprehensive list of all the things wrong with this? Can't watch videos at the moment so I'd like some insight.
>>332624074
>beta testers rate it 6/10 on Steam
>becomes paid beta (or euphemistically, "Early Access")
>drops to 5/10
Fucking justice
>>332649764
>controls
>graphics
>animations
>sounds
>amount of content
>coaster builder
>framerate
>path builder
>"management" gameplay
>>332640897
Theme Park was a shit "management sim" and there was much less emphasis on coasters, which are the primary draw of an amusement/theme park.
RCT got everything right.
>>332650042
That doesn't really give me a good idea of what's wrong. I'll need some details. Most of everything I've seen negative about it seem to being up planet coaster being better but no reason as to why exactly.
Guess I'll just wait to watch some videos to get a better idea.
Anyone have a video showing all the reasons its shit? I havnt looked at a RTC game since 3 turned out to be shit and went back to 2.
>>332625123
It eats up a ton of RAM
>>332650446
Sound
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDA7AENLkBc
Animations
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyntEmSRf9o
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klmt-T2KitA&feature=youtu.be&t=2640
(peeps leaving train before it arrives at the station)
Prebuild Coasters / Coaster Cam
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BfNO5Tn9r0
I could keep going, but I don't want to waste my time. Just go to random youtube videos and you will find tons of bad stuff.
>>332651039
This isn't even alpha level of development, this is proof of concept material.
>>332640897
>Except RCT3 was a bit shit?
Theres a split opinion, personally I loved RCT3
Either way, there is tons of gameplay footage of the game now, even the earliest alpha release is in a better state than RCTW currently.
>>332651964
3 seemed to be there to make lives miserable for park guests.
Like, everyone who plays it just makes horribly dangerous rides that fling peeps as far as possible.
>>332652085
You can make great stuff with RCT3, it just takes a lot of time togit gud.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vqJqtpPUQ8
>>332648041
kinda, yeah
>>332624074
It's just a beta
they'll call sawyer, he'll fix it!
>>332624074
It can't be worse than 4
>>332654127
Sawyer is dead, m8.
>>332635281
Gameplay and interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8CMAos-mVQ
Re-announcement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKBiLc5361g
>>332640778
Just play Open RCT 2
>>332654534
Quit lying on the internet anon
>>332654127
He sold out and leases the RCT franchise to people that promise to make him lots of money.
>>332654917
>>332654534
>>332654127
"In March of 2016, Eurogamer interviewed Sawyer. He says he is working to convert RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 to mobile platforms. He has also informed that he has gone on 657 roller coasters."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-03-a-big-interview-with-chris-sawyer-the-creator-of-rollercoaster-tycoon
>>332654127
based sawyer
>>332654915
>>332654917
>>332655169
That's a decoy, the real Sawyer died years ago.
>>332655169
He's just like us...;_;
"Chris Sawyer: To be honest I rarely play games these days. The world of games moved on and I didn't, and I miss the flawed style and clunky simplicity of games from 20 years ago. I admire the amazing graphics and awesome size and realism of many modern games but for some reason can't summon much enthusiasm to play them. Perhaps some are too realistic? I don't know, but bringing a game too close to realism doesn't work for me. I have a subscription to only one games magazine: Retro Gamer!"
>>332653605
It also takes a shit load of custom scenery since most of the vanilla stuff is hot garbage
>>332654127
"Chris Sawyer: I keep a very hands-off approach to Atari's new games in the series. I never wanted to be involved in their design or development, and given the value of the franchise to Atari I would expect that their own quality control would ensure the quality of the finished products."
" I would expect that their own quality control would ensure the quality of the finished products."
Guys I think he's delusional.
>>332655591
>working to convert his beloved game mobile platforms
>one of us
No m8
>>332655894
What's wrong with wanting RCT 2 on android?
>>332655826
No, he's just full of shit. He couldn't care less about the game's actual state until there comes a point where the money stops rolling in.
>>332648467
haha is that a combination of yoshi and facebook frog? now that's funny lol
>>332655826
No, he's just getting paid by Atari.
bad game
>there will never be a good rct again
Who planet coaster here?
>>332624359
Pictured: The actual framerate
>>332661652
ROIT ERE M8
>>332661652
Here and feelsgoodm8 jpg
Post cool Planet Coaster coasters
>Roller Coaster 2 sold like 10 millions units
>still manage to fuck this much the """""sequel"""""
just how?
>>332663035
Atari, that's how.
>>332663035
Atari is an awful company, that's how.
>>332654764
/v/ server when?
other than bugs what is bad about this game?
>>332662756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtwqgPnq2L0
>>332665558
brief, but cool.
>>332626842
I definitely enjoyed RCT3 and graphical restrictions they had were justified. Your argument is invalid, anon. Rct1/2 are timeless but this niche genre needs evolution. I need some new stuff to play after all.
>>332657069
Yes truly a meme for the ages. gg good meme
>>332667432
What does gamergate have to do with memes?
>>332655591
This guy definitively browses /vr/
>>332624359
My friends. What is this game?
>>332669180
Cities Skylines
>>332669515
No memes, no boku no pico, no fuckery, just pure information. Thank you, my friend.
>>332669658
It's bretty gud
>>332624359
Holy shit.
>>332661915
Probably true.
>>332670387
>>332661915
Yes and no, there's a mod that lets you upsample or whatever it but I would turn it up to basically 300% AA for screenshots. Since I have a gaymen laptop I got about 14-15 fps on that city
>>332670171
>>332670619
Alternatively :
>India.webm
>my favorite sim games were Zoo Tycoon and its dinosaur expansion and Jurassic Park operation genisis
>no new JP sim game
>no new ZooTycoon game
I just want to make my bitching dinosaur park again, and fill it with predators. I remember in the old one I built a massive Rex enclosure with a platform above it with a glass bottom and restaurants so my guest could go above the enclosure, get food and watch the Rex. For some reason they would fall off occasionally and get devoured.
It was a price I was willing to pay.
>>332670710
Nah, that's not possible. There's no one shitting in the streets.
>>332671165
It must not be a designated street.
>>332670530
>a city with proper sprawl and a downtown core
Fucking too rare in this game.
no kill
>>332671105
I know that feel, anon.
>>332669658
C O M F Y
>>332675036
B L U R R Y
>>332675246
S T E A M S C R E E N S H O T S A S H I T
>>332675036
lol
>>332675585
>>332675689
No fucking way is that C:S.
And if it is, what mods? My dick is diamonds either way
>>332675972
It's indeedCities XLmodded
>>332675512
You know you can save screenshots uncompressed right? You have to enable it first.
/cbg/ pls go
>>332676471
>Cities XL
Why would you even play that game?
>>332677019
for screenshot.
And also because the game itself isn't actually bad.
>But Cities XXXXXXL 2014!
Yeah, the "new" itteration were terrible, but that was because it wasn't made by the original team, but literally by internship who didn't know how to code. And it wasn't worth a new full price for that, but just a regular patch.
Why don't these stupid games ever let you kill guests anymore?
>>332677656
because it's something you do once or twice for the novelty then never bother with again? it's probably just not worth the dev time to add a meme feature like that
>>332670619
so basically if you don't put your bus stops right on the corner then it's fine?
>>332676815
TECHNOLOGY
>>332677764
>not designing increasingly more intricate methods of mass chaos
don't push your lack of imagination on me to justify a lack of features
>>332677764
But the devs embrace the meme, cause they made bowling your guests with a coaster train an achievement.
>>332630432
Kek
>>332679115
are those functional locks or just aesthetics?
>>332679378
yes
>RCT thread turned into C:S thread
Time for it to be a Planet Coaster thread
Hope someone tackles to make a game similar to Theme Park World in my lifetime.
>>332680054
Yes what?
>>332681562
>theme park world
>in my lifetime
>theme park world was released in 1999
MOOOOODS
>>332681365
please be good
i need this game to be good
>>332676605
yeah but they're like 3 MB each and I can't be assed to edit them before each shitpost
>>332681365
>>332682816
There is no way this won't be good.
It will at least be better than RCT3 and that game was fun too.
>>332683357
dunno if it will be better out of the box, I for one will miss water parks
>>332683149
Does it actually look like this? It almost looks like RCT2.
>>332682816
it will be tip top
>>332624074
"The RCT Series has crashed"
>$75 for Planet Coaster
>in alpha
What in the holy fuck?
>>332683629
"I'm not paying that much to go on RCT world"
>>332683596
something I hope they add
>can choose restrain type on coaster cars
>to much restraints on a slow coaster and excitement drops
>to little restrain on a fast coaster and people fly out of their seats
>>332683551
>comparing base game to base game + expansions
>>332683817>paying for games
>>332683593
Yes, it's in early alpha.
>>332684292
given that both games are available for purchase and the latter even cheaper with all its expansion packs included yes I feel entirely justified in comparing a base game to one with expansions
>>332683817
It was cracked day 1, just pirate it.
Their excuse was something about people not understanding what an alpha is and by charging more money they will actually research what they're buying so they won't complain there's not much content yet and then only charge 1/3rd that price for the full release.
In other words, they're screwing early adopters with their jewery.
>this is a fucking prebuilt coaster from RCT:W
I hope no one is defending this piece of shit
>>332685813
What the fuck.
Who thought that was a good idea?
>>332685813
but I always loved making coasters like that
>>332685813
>enjoyment : 2
>intensity : 10
>nausea : 15
>>332685813
I quite honestly have a hard time imagining a lazier design
this is the sort of thing people would be ashamed to post in an RCT2 thread
Explain
>>332686076
No one who plays games owns a mac, anon.
>>332684159
>to little restrain on a fast coaster and people fly out of their seats
That actually happened
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-woman-fell-75-feet-death-roller-coaster-article-1.1406800
>>332686076
I don't even know why you'd want to buy it at this stage anyway.
There's not really a whole lot to do at this point.
>>332685813
Aren't all prebuilt coasters in rollercoaster tycoon games generally really shit? I remember some awful shit in the first one.
>>332630432
toasted
>>332686640
they tend to be based on real life coasters which generally aren't all that optimal within the game's setting, but you can respect the effort of emulating reality
not so much with that piece of shit
>>332686640
no where near as bad as that shit
>>332686640
The prebuilt park rides are some of the best in the series and the prebuilt custom rides were all designed to subtly fuck with you in RCT1.
In RCT2 most of the prebuilts were good but occasionally one of them would be really long without much form or style because the game gave huge excitement scores for long rides.
>>332624074
>Roller Coaster Tycoon series died
It's not like RCT2 disappeared off the face of the planet.
>>332685813
why are all the pre-built coasters so huge.
>$75 for alpha
>$750 to have your name in the game (does not include the game)
>$15 to make a guest in the game (does not include the game)
>$60 to make a group of guests in the game (does not include the game)
>$150 to make a staff member (does not include the game)
Now wait a minute
>>332685813
This looks exactly like the shit I made when I was 10 playing the original. That's just pathetic..
