I've mained Sheik since the game came out. Back when Diddy was the only thing anyone would ever use. When he got nerfed, all my friends got mad at me for "playing the top-tier." I still played her tho. Then the balances came. First it was minor things, then her kill power really started being reduced. I still played her tho. But this most recent update killed her for me. The only way you can confirm a kill is with a gimp or a read; she basically has 0 setups above ~120%.
Fuck this game, I'm playing Cloud
>>332604864
Up throw to up air or up B doesn't work anymore?
>>332604864
>The only way you can confirm a kill is with a gimp or a read
That's more than half the cast. Stop bitching.
>>332605083
Fish got the range nerfed HARD, and you basically have to read an airdodge if you want to kill with an up b. To my knowledge, upthrow uair wasn't 100% chance kill before patch. Dthrow uair was a 50/50 kill but dthrow got majorly nerfed.
>her
>>332605238
But Sheik has low power moves that combo. Unlike most of the cast, she relies on combos and then specific kill setups to get stocks. She dies really easily, too.
>>332605336
(You)
>>332605316
I meant to say down throw not up throw, so the 50/50 is gone
>>332605336
Don't fucking start with this.I think she was meant to be a guy in the japanese version
>>332605498
Yes gone completely. and fthrow downb is gone completely too. You have to get a lucky fsmash or stage spike. That's all well and good, but when the opponent has rage at that %, you get hurt very much very quickly.
Boohoo, your OP character is just good now
>>332605830
I wouldn't be this annoyed if the higher tiers were more balanced. I would be completely fine playing Sheik if Cloud and Bayo were a bit less strong. But that likely isn't happening for a while.
>>332604864
Good. Sheik has been a fucking blight on smash since her debut.
>>332604864
>basically 0 setups
N-air to tipper up-smash is a guaranteed set-up, and most of the cast doesn't even have a guaranteed set-up.
Get better.
>>332605336
>>332605561
Aonuma confirmed her female at E3 2014 when discussing Hyrule Warriors.
Said she was just Zelda in a costume (big shock).
>>332606000
>I can't play an S-tier so I have to play an A-tier
Life is so hard.
>>332606006
Top-tier meme. She was way more balanced in Melee and Brawl; adding Bouncing fish made her extremely powerful, so to "fix" that they just nerf all of her options. So she has an extra really good move and all of her moves that used to be good are now worse. It's a shitty situation.
>>332606184
Japanese version of Ocarina, I mean. She's a female now, whether that was the original intention or not.
I didn't even know nair -usmash was a combo, is it DI based?
>>332606330
N-air to Up-smash still works and kills.
That's more than the huge portion of the cast who have no kill confirms.
>>332606000
Cloud is worse than Sheik still lol
Go play Bayo if you want to tier whore
>>332604864
Welcome to every mid-low tier where all kills come from gimps and reads. Stop bitching about your lagless aeriel character and get good.
>>332606473
I don't know but VoiD (or however you spell it) does it all the time and I saw it take a tournament post-1.1.5.
It is definitely a combo but I'm uncertain about its dependency on DI. I'm inclined to say that it's not dependent on DI since I've never really seen it miss.
>>332605336
What do you call a Smash Bros. match with three players?
Casual.
IBro. BRo. BRO. BROOOOO.
GET WITH THE PROGRAM HERE FELLA!!
CLOUD?!?! LMFAO WHATT??!?!??
EVERYONE AND THEIR FUTURE CHILDREN KNOW THAT YOU GOT TO GO BAYONETTA MY MAN!!!!
SHE REQUIRES ZERO, I REPEAT, ZERO SKILL TO ACTUALLY WIN A MATCH WITH HER!!
TRUST ME ON THIS 100% PLAYA!!
I'VE SEEN THE SAME PERSON GO FROM SHITTY SKILLS TO A COMPLETE PRO IN 10 SECONDS BECAUSE OF BAYONETTA!!
NOT ONLY CAN YOU KO EASIER, YOU CAN DANCE ON YOUR DEAD ENEMIES CARCUSS AND WATCH THE SALT SPRINKLE OUT OF THEIR SOUL!!
LIFE IS SO EASY WHEN YOU GO BAYONETTA!!!
DO IT BRO!!
>>332608164
I don't understand the hype about Bayo. I've shit on 99% of Bayo players because her only kill move is witch time into smash.
>>332606330
>She was way more balanced in Melee and Brawl;
>In melee
>Where she can chaingrab more then half the cast to death
>>332608164
Just play super grabby if she can kill with witch time at that point, just like how'd you play against corrin, or anyone else with a good counter
She has very very little shield damage and a pretty bad grab game so shielding hard against her works
You should be able to DI out of all of her combos too
>>332608569
>I've shit on 99% of Bayo players because her only kill move is witch time into smash
You're playing shitty Bayos then
She has disgustingly consistent death combos that can start as low as 0%
>>332610112
>he can't DI
>>332610112
I've killed most just by throwing them off the edge and watching them try to flub their way back up with their dance moves while I flamethrower them. I just want to see what a good bayo does now.
>>332610276
First of all you have to have SDI of the gods to get out of her earlier strings and setups in time
Second of all she can chase any DI you do in 90% of her combos anyways
Don't take bodying retards in For Glory as how the character actually functions
>>332610441
Go watch Salem or Komorikiri
>>332610552
I watched Salem and I'm not overly impressed by Bayonetta. I just know I could power through most of her combos as Charizard, and kill her way earlier than she could get me to kill percent.
I can relate just go to melee and main fox it will be all better then.
>>332604864
>Sheik gets nerfed
>instead of bringing her to her full potential in this patch, you switch to Cloud, a top tier
Face it, you only played sheik because of how good she was.
>>332611586
>I just know I could power through most of her combos as Charizard, and kill her way earlier than she could get me to kill percent.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Good bait bro.
>>332614169
She's just not fun anymore. I can face the fact that I'm not that good at the game, but I do enjoy playing other characters like Dorf, Luigi, etc. I liked the way she comboed and how she had a high risk/reward gameplay, but now that's all gone. I'm not trying to defend playing a top-tier, but I haven't exactly switched to whatever character is considered #1; I'm not touching Bayo
>main R&L since day 1
>had to stomach 10 patches of nerfs
>1.1.5 comes out and nerfs everyone
>except R&L
>mfw playing literal best in the game again.
>>332615541
Why not learn stuff like aerial needles to bouncing fish?
>>332617342
> main the most annoying character since day 1
Fuck you and your stupid god damn throw pillow of death
i dont understand how anyone can like this game
>>332621998
this, even brawl is better
>Main Pikachu
>Various patches come and go
>Don't even read patch notes
>Just continue kicking ass with Pikachu
>>332604864
Thanks for sharing, OP
I'll subscribe to your blog while I shit on your face.
>Wario buff when
>>332617342
>>332621998
>normal people and pro players say Rosalina is good, but fair
>only /v/, reddit, and Gamefaqs ever calls her broken
I think I know where the majority of /v/ users comes from these days,and here's a hint: It's not the pro scene.
>>332622342
Don't be smug dude, if your character was getting hit with the nerf bat you would be bitching in their place
>>332610276
>>332609801
Zero himself saying that DI'ing out of Bayos combos requires you to be a God at DI, so that meme can stop now
>>332604864
>Playing smash 4
Play a mans game, faggot. KI is on PC now. SFV just got fixed. You have no excuse.
