>that XV presentation
Well, at least now we know where all the FFXIV subscription money is being funneled; because if Heavensward didn't make it obvious, it clearly wasn't back into the game
>fucking over an already once fucked-over customer base that provides you a significant, steady profit stream every month for a once-off boxed release and a bunch of ADHD console gamers
Why are Japanese business men so completely fucking retarded?
Hey remember when a realm reborn cannibalized the ffxv team for years in order to relaunch 4.0
But yeah xiv fucking blows right now
>>332604684
SE admitted years ago their MMOs are to fund their other projects. This's true for other companies.
The more appropriate question is: Why is OP so fucking retarded?
What would you have them do? Funnel all of the profits back into ARR? What is the point of even having the game then? Diversifying their interests is a more intelligent business move, and there's no way they could even use 100% of the profits for ARR anyways. MMOs are designed to be long-term cash farms, there's no sane way to plug all the money back in.
>>332605231
Remember Burning Crusade? Before Blizzard cheaped out?
That.
The game right now is coasting on the FF name. It'd be dead otherwise.
ARR fucking printed money though. Undeniably some, even most of those funds should put towards other ventures; but keeping the dev team the same size is absolutely unacceptable. That's not how you reward the people that stuck with you through 1.0, and that's not how you keep people playing- especially when many of those people were/are only still playing because of goodwill with the promise of improvement (that has thus far failed to materialise).
more like ffxiv heavens i'm bored
Join the club homes. SE did this shit to me during the Wings of the Goddess Era of FFXI. Writing was on the wall when the details of HW were finally given out.
>>332604684
I want an MMO in an XV world like the environments trailer.
That looked atmospheric as fuck.
The game itself doesn't even make a lot of money either, they never even fucking bother mentioning just how much it makes in investors reports, nor do they even mention how many subs it has.
In 2014 they mentioned all their 3 MMOs combined only have less than 1 mil subs, which is laughable, then in 2015 they said FFXIV related MERCHANDISE was doing favorably, that's all they said in 2015 about XIV.
Why do you think they keep pushing cash shop and merchandise shit? It barely has 300k subs right now.
>>332607081
Eh?
Had 5 million last I checked.
>>332607280
Those are accounts created, not subscribers.
>>332607081
I admit it, I'm a consumer whore:
When does that plushie go on sale?
Good to know this game will never look good.
>>332607280
Created, not concurrent subs. I'd be surprised if this game had even a million currently.
>>332607081
It was 400k last time you posted this.
The time of FF4.0 is now over. Thank you for being useful. XV will take it from here. You can finally rest.
Thanks for buying all those fantasias you degenerate erp fags.
>>332610510
>sub par dying MMO keeps dropping subs
>>332610256
there aren't even 1 million level 60 characters.
>>332610630
It was like 3 hours ago the last time it got posted.
>>332610729
>multiple people can't recognize the game is dying
>>332607081
>The game itself doesn't even make a lot of money either
Nigger at this rate Yoshi-P is going to go on another 3 month vacation with all the suckers willing to spend 24 dollars on the Bennu
So, it's pretty safe to say that Zodiark will be the final boss for this game in 5.0 or maybe 6.0. What do you think will be the name of his ultimate attack?>Yfw it'sFinal Fantasy
>>332609416
preorder is up now
full sale is june 30th
you know what really killed this game? the players. my fucking god I have never met a more insufferable playerbase in my life
>>332610898
You need to be subbed to unbox the mount, but it falls under merchandise just like all the cash shop ship, they still don't make a lot from subs they don't have. They don't need to at this point either, honestly they should go buy to play already and rake in the retard cash.
>>332610848
I'm just saying the numbers should stay consistent if the whole "game is dying" spiel is gonna show up every thread.
>>332611071
Zodiark's ultimate attack was Final Eclipse so
Final Eclipse
>>332611071
We'll end the Zodiark/Ascian bullshit in 4.X and then go on to adventures in Othard. Then get a time travel expansion showing the Allagan invasion of Meracydia.
>>332611071
The final boss is clearly going to be Hydaelyn. Japs love that bait and switch shit.
>>332611258
There's a lot of shit going on anyways like what exactly is Elidibus fucking up to?
He's not exactly in league with the Ascians but kind of is and etc
>>332611258
What form would Hydaelyn take? Minfilia's body?
>>332611369
Elidibus is trying to fix the universe that Hydaelyn broke when she ripped herself and Zodiark apart. The other Ascians just seem like MUH DARKNESS cocksuckers.
>>332611385
She'll summon previous Warriors of Light to fight you that conspicuously look like the protagonists from other FF games
>>332611914
Fuck me, this is totally going to happen.
How do you guys think the Warriors of Darkness will be implemented into gameplay? I'm hoping they get a really cool trial that feels like fighting another party of players somehow. I'm pretty sure story-wise they'll eventually become our friends to fight a greater evil.
>>332612107
like thordan where you fight the WoD and his buddies slowly appear in phases to help out
>>332612107
Are there any good X|V related YouTube channels?
>>332612107
That PLD had better pick somebody and chain stun them
>>332612281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGddM6U8Xps
>Rough average of $10 per subscription, legacy players, Euro, Yen, etc.
>1.5 million active subscribers
>$15,000,000 every month
>$180,000,000 per annum
>At least 400 trillion in Yen
New mount confirmed. Blue Unicorn. Maybe a Blue bird.
>>332604916
Remember when the old SE CEO was dumb as bricks and couldn't into project management and thus having gotten them into that shit show in the first place?
>>332611113
Thanks.
Hopefully it goes up for pre-order on import sites soon; bloody SE store doesn't ship to where I live.
>>332612281
if you mean guides, Mizzteq is better than Mr Happy. Mostly because she's pretty concise in addition to her tips being correct
>>332612996
>making guides for a fight before you've cleared
Mizzteq is trash
>>332612107
A fight where they wipe once and immediately the PLD leaves, the healer tries a vote disband but fails and leaves after, DPS goes afk, and the dps WAR tries to solo your party.
I think I botted the fun out of this game.
I feel dirty.
>>332612996
I guess my question is: Is there a Vaatividya of FFXIV?
>>332613110
At least she doesn't go off on an entirely unrelated tangent for half an hour
Mr Happy is pretty much "But first we need to talk about Parallel universes"
>>332612638
>>1.5 million active subscribers
Lies.
>>332613262
>Vaatividya
>>332613308
Mr Happy was always a stupid cocksucker, yeah. I liked Mizzteq until she pulled that shit. Xeno is the best now.
>>332613262
actually I'm surprised there isn't because XIV's world lore is pretty damn extensive.
>>332610898
>Make a mount that you can get for free in an FC or purchase off the market board
>Nah i'll just pay for the $25 version of it so I have music
Goddamn people are retarded
>>332604684
>gets tricked by carrot-on-a-stick MMO fare
>it's even a fucking WoW clone of all cancerous things you could think of
>cries foul play today
If you weren't a drooling retard you'd have avoided the entire thing. XIV exists for people to be scammed out of their money. It has never once been worth the sub fee, as an MMO it's a pathetic themepark / disguised lobby game with retard tax added on top.
Just kill yourself. Companies do this because retards like you keep allowing them to. Don't be surprised now because they fucked you over for the millionth time.
>>332613398
is "that shit" you're referring to I guess her Sephirot EX guide?
I guess it's mostly because you gotta have that shit out for shitters asap
>>332613478
What music does Bennu even play
>>332613569
T12 apparently.
>>332613262
that one guy who make the lore videos everyonce once and a while. Ethys Asher
>>332613569
T12 obviously
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9bKYzxa.png "latest[1].png")
>>332611914
like crystal versions of them?
>>332613569
Turn 12 version of Answers.
>>332613624
Ethys Asher talks out of his fucking ass
>>332604684
>Mfw all the jewbucks XIV made so far used to cast Game of Cucks and Breaking Fags actors into XV
Well fuck you Square Enix.Yoshida is still a fucking hack.
>>332613713
I only like his videos because he draws real world comparisons. The relic weapon ones are pretty interesting.
>why are Japanese business men so fucking stupid
Mm yes, they should do the intelligent thing and pour money into an MMO that will never be able to challenge the top dog of MMOs for upwards of 3-4 years. They're also so dumb because they used money from a project that rakes in monthly income and has a medium fanbase that religiously buys things in their cosmetics shop and resubs every patch because T-THEY'VE FIXED IT THIS TIME and W-WE'RE NOT DRONES! WE DON'T PLAY WOW and put it towards bringing out a game that will no doubt sell millions and maintain franchise hype until the NEXT game that comes out which is an episodic retelling of one of the most beloved games ever released. No, they're obviously so dumb anon, they should just dump money into FFXIV despite it being locked into a difficult situation performance wise because of PS3 as well as having to compete with Legion later this year.
Did I miss something? What happened?
>>332613912
FFXV looks really nice now. In contrast, FFXIV doesn't look nice now.
>>332613848
Most recently his Unukalhai video rustled my jimmies
>what if Gaius maybe had a son maybe
>and then what if maybe that son was maybe Unukalhai based on absolutely zero evidence
>maybe he has echo even though he clearly tells you he doesn't have echo but has a similar power
>>332612638
>>1.5 million active subscribers
top fucking kek
>>332613912
FFXV got anime series, an upcoming movie and tons of stuffs while FFXIV are left to rot nowadays.
why would they put more money into this game
it's degenerate WoWclone trash
that being said, can't wait for the 4.0 announcements
>>332614052
Yeah, the Ukulele video was just him talking out of his ass
Someone in the comments had a better theory
>>332613327
>>332614081
You know whats the real kicker? This might be intentional so that they drive out the Western market and close the international servers.
>>332614032
>>332614130
So what? XI was running on nothing for a long time and they managed to make patches that aren't copy pastes over and over. XIV is in a better position than XI and still managed to be lazy. Whatever potential budget XIV could have had, it's still on the producer to not churn out shit.
>>332614257
FFXI is on a skeleton crew and it's still putting out content faster
>>332614257
Yoshida is a fucking hack, I thought that's not news senpai.
>>332614376
>>332614501
Well yeah, I'm just wondering people are now trying to shift the blame on SE instead of yoshida.
>>332614376
Not since Yoshida, the head of the entire MMO division and the one who also handed off the mobile FFXI port to Nexon, cut their budget even lower and forced them to slow down their consistent monthly updates. It was also making his shit WoW clone with mediocre updates almost ever 4 months, 5 months once, look bad.
>>332613853
PS3 limitations is a shitty meme that's an excuse for laziness
Not once did I ever see the words PS2 limitations when it came to FFXI despite it being on 360/PC as well
>>332612263
I'd let that mithra charm me.
>>332614501
Its not so much that hes a hack as much as hes up against the wall and has no real way to innovate the formula at this point. For example, he can't instance a civil war arc in Ul'dah because that requires coders and asset creators and time. He can't design an ongoing frontline battlefield zone between Ishgard and the dragons because its a waste of resources to create a zone that won't satisfy all the combat and crafting disciplines. He can't force players to go through a tougher loot grind because the vast majority of players in any given modern (read: 3rd generation) MMORPG will always be casuals living on loot handouts.
He sees it. I see it. Everyone sees it. He envisioned the framework of ARR into a neat little sandbox, and now we're all trapped in a box choking on the same pool of sand.
>>332614861
>Not once did I ever see the words PS2 limitations when it came to FFXI despite it being on 360/PC as well
are you mentally fucking retarded or did you just not actually play the game?
>>332614923
Prove me wrong dude
>>332614861
>Not once did I ever see the words PS2 limitations when it came to FFXI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT?
>>332614848
>killed XI
that's a bad thing?
![[Kuroshiki (Kurohiko)] Kuroshiki Vol. 3 (Final Fantasy XI) [English] [fmko] [Digital].png](https://i.imgur.com/Tn5HkJ5.png "[Kuroshiki (Kurohiko)] Kuroshiki Vol. 3 (Final Fantasy XI) [English] [fmko] [Digital].png")
>>332610898
>$24 cash shop mounts
Didn't that nigger say subscription-based MMOs shouldn't do that?
>>332615024
he said it was terrible practice. then he put some slut gear on there and people thought he was cool.
>>332615024
he said a lot of things
>>332613478
People have mount music turned on still?
>>332615024
You wouldn't take advantage of retards if you had the chance?
Sleipnir is one thing, it's a unique mount you can't get any other way
But then people paid for recolored magitek mounts out the ass that didn't even have special music tied to it unless they whined that they spent $12 for nothing
>>332611369
>>332611449
I'd like to know what Urianger is up to its been showns he working with or at least consorting in some form with the Ascians but there has been no further addition to that storyline in Heavensward.
>>332614969
They had 5-6 different storage systems because of ps2 ram limitations.
>>332615185
I like the horse primal themes sometimes, but then it gets old
>>332614906
Bullshit. Stop being a yoshida apologist. Every corner he has gotten into, he painted it himself.
>>332615000
>killing an old school MMO that still has players and was getting solid monthly updates for two years
>while Everquest and practically every other MMO from the same era are still around and also still making money
>instead of cashing in on the nostalgia like all the old MMOs do, slowly kill it and hope all subscribers eventually leave for the newer MMOs
>could be making more money but SE has proven time and time again they hate money
>instead, bank everything on a shitty mobile port that will only have content up to CoP, made and operated by fucking Nexon
>good
The only good thing he ever did was cutting PS2 and 360 support this week, and that was most likely Matsui's decision and not Yoshida's.
>>332614906
He could've at least brought back Hamlet Defense from 1.0.
>be monk
>ilevel 217
>keep debuffs up
>use cooldowns when im buffed
still not doing enough dps.. this is not fun anymore
I thought people were happy with this game after the huge revamp? Can someone explain the trajectory of this game's reception to me, if it's not a huge hassle. Pretty curious
>>332615260
>The Vath and Vanu mounts don't have themes
>Vath just plays digireedoos all the time no matter what you're doing
>>332615451
it's WoW
everyone who hates WoW hates it
everyone who likes WoW but doesn't want to play WoW for some reason complains there's nothing to do
>>332615352
XI wasn't even that great
>>332615421
He could install a fully functional Blitzball League and it wouldn't save this floundering ship.
>>332615447
How much DPS do you want to do man
Monk can't be anymore kingly than it is unless you stick a DRG/NIN/MCH in your party for their buffs and debuffs
>>332615451
They were, until 3.0.
>>332615556
and xiv is shit compared to it.
>>332615568
Not sure if it's worth saving. All it needs to do is become another XI. Have a small, but constant sub base for years.
>>332615451
ARR was a good setup to an otherwise barebones MMO
heavensward was supposed to flesh it out, but it ended up being more or less a hard reset on all of the progress made in ARR both from a player and development standpoint
>>332615185
the personal airship music is nice bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpICPVckkrg
>>332615650
>Grind in an area for days
>damn i love this game
>>332615556
Which goes to show how bad XIV is doing.
>15 got Sean Bean and other top casts
>14 fags crying about their sub money
>>332615694
>set up the end of ARR for a cataclysmic war era with full blown civil war in Ul'dah and the height of the Dragon Crusade in Ishgard
>>Ul'dah was a false flag
>>Ishgard was solved with the power of friendship
>>332615798
>grind in dungeon for 6 months with only 7 other people fighting the same 4 bosses
>get mom to buy 25 dollar mount
>yay
>>332615451
>1.00 was shit
>SE apologized and replaced tanaka with yoship
>yoship scrape and bow to the remaining players and tries to fix the game
>suddenly reveals that he wants to revamp everything
>players get excited
>game gets launched
>game plays much smoother than the old version but has the rpg stripped right the fuck out of it
>yoship promises that he will introduce more rpgness into the game later
>player gets wowed by update cycle speed
>starts praising yoshida
>he hypes up the expansion, promises things and starts behaving like a celebrity, starts on going trips everywhere, also hired a castle just for pr, etc
>lot of people fall for it
>expansion turned out to be shit
>people turn to yoshida
>he's already gone for vacation
Please understand.
>>332615650
enlighten me then
>>332616087
>The syndicate is excavating Omega weapon from Carteneau
>we should do something about that!
>??????
seriously what the fuck happened to that plotline
>>332616268
Teledji got chopped in half, and he was the only one that wanted to start shit
>>332616268
The syndicate can't touch Omega because the Grand Companies are all over it.
Teleji's plan was just get access to it and he's dead down so no one's bothering with it. Lolorito wants things to go back to business as usual asap.
>>332615451
>1.0, rushed shit by Wada to compete with Cataclysm, lots of promise, half the content already developed but left out due to time constraints, ends up launching with no content, gets a 4.0 review and thrown into the trash
>Tanaka forced out, Yoshida the Hack walks in, tells the team to finish half the content left out and takes all the credit for it, even though it was already almost finished by the old team. Yoshida the Hack starts getting popular as "the savior of FFXIV" but the general public still sees the game as a failure.
>2.0 announcement comes out, gets advertised with screenshots and info as 1.X with all fixes and even more improvements to the engine, but keeping the same battle system and overall feel of the game, gear progression, etc.
>2.0 alpha comes out, turns out all past screenshots and info was just bait and switch, becomes obvious 2.0 will just be a generic shitty WoW clone
>WoW shitters love rehashed WoW turds and jump on it, reboot is hailed as a success due to them.
>CT which was advertised for years to be included at launch gets postponed because it was "too hard", becomes obvious shit like this will keep happening, and it does. A lot of features promised for 2.0 still aren't even in, map dungeons are just now getting implemented when they were advertised for 2.0, FC summons and addons still nowhere to be seen.
>2.X series plays out, more lazy shit happens but it's ok because "it's practically a new game, give them a chance"
>3.0 promised to be a major change from 2.0, with more chances for the team to experiment and make content that was never seen before
>3.0 ends up being a glorified 2.X patch with no endgame content, 5 month content drought right after the expansion launches
>everyone finally wakes up to Yoshida the Hack's bullshit
>game keeps dropping subs like flies
>>332616268
Teledji was the only one that wanted it. Other Syndicate members are perfectly fine making money without being super villains because instability is bad for business.
>>332615352
the only good thing about XI was the music. combat was a piece of shit and the story wasn't even that good. deal with it
>>332615451
>>332616129
I'll add a bit more
>Posts screenshots and concept art of the new game engine using combat similar to what the game had in 1.23, which is what many people wanted
>Suddenly the game becomes a WoW clone.
>Yoshi talks about plans for the future:
>Large scale pvp with siege weapons
>Roaming primals that free companies will be able to fight and summon
>Giant FATES that last for hours
>Addons
>Game launches and it's fairly barebones but it's excusable because it was made in a ridiculously short time and the future is promising
>Large scale pvp comes out and it's just a 24v24v24 territories mode with no sieges
>xpac announcement time
>CHALLENGING DUNGEONS
>LARGE NEW ZONES
>DIFFICULT MONSTERS IN THE OPEN WORLD
>Dungeons are just as easy as ARR dungeons
>Zones are still empty and pointless
>Monsters, while more difficult than the ones in ARR, are still easy
>still no addons
>still no roaming primals/primal summoning
>patches got even smaller than they were in ARR.
>>332616395
He was an agent to Potato Greybeard, essentially a front to a much larger agenda. That agenda essentially was frozen when it became clear that the Scions were a security liability and restoring the old regime was preferable to outright war and the high probability of fighting the motherfucking WoL. So they reinstalled the old regime and continued with business as usual.
>>332616560
>3.2 comes out: the raid content is fun, the dungeons are pretty cool, the ex primal is the best yet, materia on raid gear and relevant crafted gear gives crafting actual meaning, and a lot of people who took a break over 3.0-3.1 came back.
SHIT DYING GAME GUIZE YEAH TOTALLY.
>>332616839
To add, Greybeard completed his primary objective of blunting a populist revolution that would threaten the hierarchical class order of Ul'dah society. He has demonstrated his power, and the queen will give pause the next time she considers revolutionizing the kingdom.
>>332616839
Lolorito was never interested in shaking anything up. He had to pull his sneaky bullshit to stop Lolorito from killing his perfect puppet ruler and fucking the security of the Ul'dahn economy. Lolorito is the real hero that had to clean up after the dumbass fucking Sultana that didn't even tell Raubahn she was going to abdicate the throne.
>>332616268
If it were FFXI the plots would have continued along a forked path and require you to hit a certain progression point in both to proceed later on so each path got its due in the plot building.
Instead ARR shoved one huge plot string to the side to make way for SHINY NEW FLOATING ISLANDS.
>>332616726
>>Monsters, while more difficult than the ones in ARR, are still easy
That's because ARR open world at its hardest was for lvl 50 at ilvl50. Within 1 coil the difference is i90, ending i130 (80 item level difference).
HW open world at its hardest is designed for lvl 60 at ilvl 160. Before the raid even starts you're already i180-190. We're halfway and we're already max i240 (80ilvl diff). By the time we finish at the same position where arr finished, we could be 100 ilvls stronger than the mobs.
Basically yoship lied from the very beginning about wanting tougher mobs in the open world. It's a switcheroo.
>Working on High Roller Title
>3/7 meta achievements so far
Remaining achievements and current progress
>Win 500 chocobo races
46/500
Will just get this with time and MGP is actually half decent now.
>Win 1000 Roulette Triple Triad matches
144/1000 easy enough when Roulette is the region rule and you can farm an easy NPC.
>Win 1mil MGP from mini cactpot
153,226/1mil just takes time have mini cactpot down to a science and always win 10k if 1,2,3 is on the card.
>Win 1mil MGP from the jumbo cactpot
2,268/1mil
Fuck this right here in particular. I have never gotten any matches and am literally at the mercy of RNJesus to never get this.
On the bright side I can spread out the rest of it over a few months because of the cactpot horse shit. Not sure what it is about this games achievements but some of them take absolute autistic levels of grinding that very few WoW achievements came even close to.
>>332617079
Lolorito was most invested in stopping the queen's plans to turn the merchant kingdom into a populist republic. Teledji was merely his aggressor, who ended up doing things the messy way. As messy as it was, it worked out in the best case for Lolorito since it stopped her plans and preserved the current order. As a bonus cherry on top, Teledji got himself killed and no other Syndicate member will risk stepping out of line - at least alone.
Remember Advertised FC airship adventures?
Heh...
>>332614879
I understood your reference.
>>332617286
I don't remember subscribing to this
>>332617309
The rest of the Syndicate isn't even evil except arguably Dewlala who runs the national bank and sells people a better spot in the afterlife. Godbert does what he wants and likes to help people, Raubahn is Raubahn, and Fyrgeiss doesn't give a fuck about anything but mining. I'm curious who will take Teledji's spot now, or if gaining all of Teledji's assets along with half of Lolorito's places Nanamo on the Syndicate.
>>332613646
Would be pretty cool actually considering they already use the Dissidia artwork for the triple triad cards.
I want to get off this high speed wild ride.
>>332617861
I forgot my picture because I'm retarded
>>332616040
It wouldn't be nearly as much of a slap to the face if there were a PC version.
>>332615781
Oh cool a remix of the theme during midgardsomr at keeper of the lake and the music this plays at Tiamat in Azys Lla always liked that theme.
I literally had no idea there was more mount music then the chocobo theme have had it off since like 5 minutes after getting my chocobo.
>>332617574
nobody could give less of a fuck about uldah storyline. it was shit. killing the scions over it was shit. and getting the scions back together is shit
>>332617973
try your magitek armor
>>332617329
Just be happy you got a personal airship. Why can't you be like the warrior of darkness? Just look how fucking happy he is with his retarded flying boat.
Time to step aside, YoshiP.
>>332616268
Shinryu
When he shows up omega will awaken on it's own or someone else will get to it and shinryu awakens
>>332617329
Blame the hardcore raiders for killing diadem
>Provide an alternative to getting 210 gear that required godly RNG to get good stats
>IT'S NOT FAIR, THEIR GEAR SHOULDN'T BE AS GOOD AS OURS
What would the game even need to do to be decent again? It's obviously slipping fast, and tons of people have pointed that out, but I never see anyone give an idea on how it might be fixed.
>>332618234
>linear gear progression
Yoshi fell for the warcraft meme
>>332618234
>>IT'S NOT FAIR, THEIR GEAR SHOULDN'T BE AS GOOD AS OURS
>Yoshi buttfucks the i210 droprate
And no one queued for Diadem ever again, The End
>>332618370
they just need to get off the path
we have all the same shit every patch it's so predictable at this point we all know what's gonna happen forever
get off that shit and throw us a curveball and come up with some new content out of nowhere
diadem was just instanced hunts unfortunately but why not make an instanced zone that certain mobs drop key items that you need to pop bosses or something like dynamis? I'd play that
>>332618165
Can't wait for them to recycle the FFXI model for him so they can funnel resources towards FFXVI instead.
>>332618494
what treasure box would we find him in?
>>332618165
Binding Coil of Shinryu will save this game
>>332618492
diadem was sold as a server wide dynamis
>>332618573
yeah and then it just was instanced hunts with huge fucking hp pools and super low droprates for mediocre gear
>>332618573
>devs had a chance to turn the event into an objective hunt
>3.2 rolls around
>all they did was lower the time you can spend in the zone and how many things needed to unlock flying
>>332618718
>>332618639
i like the zone. its the best keep secret i have. cornering the pterodactyl market is easy
>>332618848
yeah it's nice and all
but it's just not fun
>>332618370
full nostalgia mode. fuck the stupid mmo story. just start shitting final fantasy down our throats. sephiroth kills the emperor. exdeath summons the void to eorzea. kuja taking control of eidolons.
>>332618570
>Binding Coil of Shinryu
I think you mean, The Empyrean Tabernacle of Shinryu; or something equally pompous.
>>332618921
literally the opposite of what needs to happen
>>332618921
so like disney infinity but with FF?Dissidia: Warriors of the Void
>>332618981
whatever, still can't be worse then alexander
>>332619043
he rolled so he's fine
>>332619049
>alexander
This pisses me off.
Alex is one of the most iconic summons in the series, and unarguably among the coolest- both visually and thematically.
The abortion that exists as "Alexander" in XIV is heresy.
If they wanted a goblin meme machine they should have used Ark. He's already steampunk. And a transformer.
>>332619368
It wouldn't be ok if it wasn't goblins
fuck that meme race, literally worse than cats and lalas
>>332612498
rou rou is a au'ra now
>>332616726
Im okay with no addons and no long fates.
>>332619368
Alex is just fine. he's always been fortress sized
>>332616726
Worst part is addons will never happen because of the PS3/4 version.
>>332619368
>Not Doomtrain for the goblins and Arc as a Garlean superweapon
Do you even fantasy.
Plus Alexander isn't even the goblin's primal. It's the primal fortress of the faggots that lived in hinterlands beforehand, the goblins just got ahold of it.
>>332619368
Alexander should have been a Primal-fueled colossal golem made by the Amdapori to fuck up Mhachi void sent during the War of the Magi
>>332618370
All they have to do is see what FFXI did right and copy that. Heck, the first thing they could do is add the ability to use sub jobs.
>>332619675
He is their Primal, just not their God. Goblins are migratory and literally carry their homes on their backs, so he appeals to them as a home that instead carries them. They only summoned him into the fortress as a base the same way Shiva was summoned into Ysayle as a base.
>>332619675
>Doomtrain for the goblins
Fuck no.
Fitting as it might be, goblins are a comedy black hole and I don't want to see the other cool primal sullied. Saying that is like wishing a particular class would get Titan for the next round of primal-themed armors; it's insulting.
>>332619725
Maybe. I still think Alexander should have been Ishgard itself. Almost anything would be better than what he is now though.
>>332619743
I don't think subjobs would work or even be very fun in FFXIV.
Lets say they added subjobs today and you went DRG/MNK
Chances are all that would change would be you would use the greased lightning combo in place of full thrust whenever GL was about to fall off and maybe you'd put a MNK dot up. Other than that there's no real change except you'd be burning through tp at a retarded rate and all your timings would be way off because buffs and dots are built to fall off at the right time in your rotation.
>>332619942
my assumption was that the ishgards were gonna summon alexander to remove dragon. but that didn't happen as you can tell. i was moderately disappointed.
>>332617329
>>332618234
>>332618425
fuck i hate that diadem was just killing dinosaurs for an hour...
>>332614906
>he can't instance a civil war arc in Ul'dah
wasnt Lororito's excuse to stop said civil war from happening because of a CERTAIN ENEMY WITH A BIG PARTY CRASHER BALLON floating about?
Can you imagine a doomtrain fight with a Sabin cameo.
>>332620216
That would require the Ishgardians to not be constantly sucking Halone's dick all the time. I think the True Brothers are going to summon her when they get fed up with Aymeric's shit though
>>332620229
no you retarded cuck. he wins. he has the syndacite and the princess in his pocket. literally ruling uldah now.
>>332620397
its better then completely losing the city
considering the Alaminggers would take advantage of the chaos as well
>>332620397
The Syndicate was always the true government of Ul'dah. Lolorito was always actually in charge with the Sultana as his puppet. Except now he gave her half of all his money because it's time for the dumb bitch to get ready for Garlemald. She's less in his pocket now than she was before.
I leveled up crafting so I'd have matching armor sets to not look retarded while leveling, was this a horrible waste of time? In the 40s it def feels like crafted armor can compete with other available armor but does this just end once I hit 50? Is this the only window when crafted gear can be useful?
Why don't we just take the ala Mhigans
And push them into the islands dotting the sea outside of Noscea?
Like, deport them?
Qiqirn beast quests when
>>332620870
The ilvl cap for gear right now is 240, the maximum crafted set clocks in at 220. So to answer your question, crafted gear is a viable option for the whole game.
Crafted gear can also be sold on the market board for a good price, as people use it for leveling and doing daily gc turn ins.
The problem with crafting is that if you want to be gil efficient with it you have to level up all crafting and gathering classes at the same time, or your stuck on market board prices for mats, which can really eat into your profit.
>>332620870
Grand company armor is the best for leveling. At least your crafting can make you money.
>>332604684
>Significant, Steady profit stream
Yeah, no.
FF14 is going to go F2P relatively soon, or die off within the year.
>>332620870
HQ crafted gear is always useful
mostly people buy it for GC turn ins to level their own classes or they actually use it for leveling/spiritbonding
>>332621223
Item level cap from A5-8S is 245.
>>332621000
Qiqiring primal Yojimbo when
>>332621373
The weapon is i245, everything else is 240
>>332621352
>FF14 is going to go F2P relatively soon, or die off within the year.
People were saying this 3 years ago. It's a shit game but F2P isn't happening anytime soon
Dunno why everyone thinks MMOs need millions of subscribers to stay afloat. Everquest only ever had like 100k at its peak.
>>332621389
>Yojimbo primal
>Run sellers and gil buyers are the only ones who can clear it cause it requires gil
>>332621665
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest#Subscription_numbers
>>332615456
At least the sanuwa has the best mounted pose
>>332621223
>>332621369
Is there a list of what GC turn ins could be?
good to know that crafting wasn't a waste of time
My friend kept on telling me to rush to 50 and said that artifact armor I'd get would be better than whatever I could craft
>>332621729
You get i110 stuff from the main story quest at 50 and then once you get into the Heavensward story quest, you'll keep getting better stuff
>>332621729
I want to say gc turn ins are randomized per player
>>332621729
The only list I could find was this, but you should be able to check it yourself and see what can be turned in.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/98647/blog/1137158/
Also the artifact armor you get at 50 sucks now. Instead, get a cheap omnicrafter set and get something better when you reach 52+
>>332621729
if you still have default keybinds, hit crtl+u and click the gcc seal thing and itll tell you everything you can turn in for the day
(it resets every day at 4pm est on my server I dont know about others)
>>332621352
>FF14 is going to go F2P relatively soon, or die off within the year.
It might, but only due to a lack of innovation and developer support.
>let's release an expansion identical in structure to the vanilla game; that completely resets endgame progression, rendering 24 months of content obsolete, then fuck off for a 2 month holiday while players farm 1 primal and 2 farm dungeons- one of which is the worst in the game's history.
>>332622410
Relics are one thing that really makes me upset
FFXI relics were tough, but rightfully so cause that weapon could be used for a long time
Hell you'd be lucky to come across somebody with one and it made it somewhat impressive
In FFXIV it's just, here's the next step that'll be outdated next patch
>>332622594
>i don't have time to play games anymore because i work full time and have to take care of my wife's son so please make everything easy and worthless and hand it straight to me from doing dailies :(
These people killed MMOs.
>>332622594
What's going to be worse is when they just... Phase out the second artifact armor in 3.4.
Like it's real fucking obvious the Eso armor should have been job rewards in a similar vein to the normal job armor.
But nah let's make it the second tome gear.
Could you imagine what it'll be like when someone asks you how to look like the cover AST/DRK/MCH and you tell em, "oh you have to kill like 600 hunts now"
>>332622762
They rushed it and just threw it in because of spending all their dev time on Diadem and LoV. Before HW release they were saying how it would be much more challenging to get.
>>332622678
Purely vertical gear progression is fucking horrid.
What's the incentive to keep playing all the time if your gear'll just get outdated in a month, rather than a whole expansion?
>>332622594
The relic step that takes it from being "Awoken" to whatever the new relic is has got to be the worst thing they've ever done to this game. It's prohibitively expensive for the crafted items and getting all 80 of the tokens takes fucking ages. Unless I quit my job and pull millions of gil out of thin air I will never have that weapon.
>>332622594
A shitty grind is a shitty grind no matter if the end result is useful or not and FFXI relics were the shittiest grind anyone has ever come up with and should never be spoken of in a positive context in any way whatsoever.
>>332622678
Being able to grind video games 20 hours a day is not a skill or an accomplishment. I know you like being rewarded for being a worthless loser, but it turns out that there are better ways to design online games.
>>332622871
They see exactly that as the incentive. Rather than giving people several goals and interesting content to keep them interested, they go with the route of fucking you if you ever unsub for a week
>better keep those tomestones capped or you'll always be behind :^)
>>332622952
I didn't say it was a skill or accomplishment. Some of us just actually like to play video games and work toward goals instead of logging in to do dailies and have our gear be worthless in a month.
>>332622678
It's for the casuals, but the relic isn't like that because of casuals.
Remember 2.0 and EX primals? And the Chimera/Hydra?
After that the relic became a tool to re-inject life into floundering aspects of the game.
>overworld is barren and empty
Add a FATE grind
>queues are slow for outdated bosses and low-level dungeons
Add dungeon drops and light
>too much money in the economy
Add items you need to buy; or a materia melding step
>people hate the raids
Add a tomestone-intensive step
Also see: CT and the new oil requirements.
And it's like this because Yoshi can't work out a way to organically retain player interest. Once glamour and/or iLv are out of the picture shit just dies in the ass because no one wants to bother with it any more. What the game needs to remedy this is gear effects and procs: if the tank ring from Garuda EX had "increases crit chance by 10%" then Garuda EX would constantly have instant queues. Once this happens we can return to 2.0 where the relic was midcore content instead of a soulcrushing, tedious grind.
>>332623027
People have different goals in mmo's. Why are yours the only correct and valid ones?
>>332622925
The point is that the weapons didn't become outdated in one patch cycle like FFXIV, they lasted quite a while
>>332607081
they said themselves that ffxiv is their most profitable game ever
they didnt try to save 1.0 for no reason. at just 500k subs thats 7.5million dollars a month.
plus cash shop items. and thats for the cheap sub option. theres a full sub that lets you have more than one character per server, it's slightly more money.
theyre banking in hard atm idiot.
and using your 300k, thats 54 million dollars a year, excluding the actual purchase of the game, xpac and cash shop cosmetics.
>>332623103
Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? Why do you assume you can only have either casual or hardcore goals, and not both? Have systems meant for casuals to log in and do dailies, get some amount of gear. Then have systems like the FFXI relic meant for rewarding people who want to put in the time and effort and face real challenges in their game.
>>332623027
>I want goals to work towards to
>I hate progression
>Grinding is shit
>FFXI was so good
Make up your fucking mind.
>>332622871
I agree that it's horrible but there's not really any other way to keep people subscribed to a game the way MMOs do. Gotta keep the autists chasing the carrot on the stick. If it wasn't there people would very quickly get bored.
>>332623081
Honestly the best way to fix the game is have more I guess you could call them abilities? on gear.
Rather than just stats and more stats, actual enhancements for certain skills that could actually change playstyles.
"Savage blade procs combos without using fast blade"
Or "Flash now does 100 potency unaspected damage" purely as examples.
>>332623125
Then that's even worse because the shitty grind is mandatory.
>>332623217
Are you fucking retarded or something? I love progression, I just hate vertical-only progression that outdates gear within a month or two and prevents putting in interesting equipment that will actually last you and might have special effects or situational uses. I also never said grinding was shit. I just hate that I simultaneously have to log in every single day to keep up, and also can't grind too much because then those full time workers will feel left behind. Let me grind exactly how much I fucking want without capping my progress, and allow me to use that uncapped grinding to catch up if I happen to miss some play time.
>>332623081
Wow, you're saying people don't play MMOs if they aren't given continuous rewards? What a fucking shocker.
I hope people realize that if someone were actually to come along and design their dream MMO, that barely anyone would actually play it, since the vast majority of users just want simplistic treadmill garbage they can be addicted to. And yet everyone treats subscribers as a measure of a game's worth.
>>332622678
>Wifes son
Fucking gets me every time.
>>332623523
Ebin meme bro, follow me on Twitter
Weekly lockouts on tomes are the real shitfests.
Rewards for dungeons and raids are mildly understandable, but why even go to Midas at all if you know a crafter?
and even then it's cushion gear to hold you over for lore gear.
Or purely gear for a secondary job.
Why can't we have a proper mid core scene like coil was?
Why's it gotta be faceroll or tearing your own fingernails out?
So am i the only one that raids because the raids are fun?
gear is nice but i like playing dress up and i like raiding cause the fights are enjoyable.
>>332623635
midas isnt that bad. gordias wasnt even that bad you just needed non retarded dps and tanks.
>>332623635
For the majority of players normal raids ARE "midcore". Half of them will never even do that much.
>>332623676
Normal mode raid fights are just a chore to a lot of people. And Midas is just as chore-tacular.
Savage is properly challenging but nobody wants to do it because it's difficult.
>>332623635
I appreciate what they did with Alex normal
The Binding Coil was a huge essential piece of story to really know what the whole set up behind 2.0 was, but people complained because they would never get to see it because they didn't raid, so Alex normal was born
So now it's just the casual pretend raid for people that just want to story and some basic gear
>>332623676
>>332623781
I'm loving Savage Midas so far, even if my team keeps fucking up stupid shit
>mfw both the sch and the smn eat every single gobhook five attempts in a row
>>332623264
Yep. Would be nice.
I feel like gear should have skills-specific boosts/augments (as you mentioned) while stat boosts should be available via materia.
Remove materia as they are, and make them more like Ar Tonelico's grathnode crystals, and make them removable using Elemental crystals and sellable on the market.
Give me a rank 1 materia that adds 10% fire damage (sold by vendors), a rank 2 that adds 20% (dropped from those flame Gigas' in Mor Dhona), etc. (map drops, Ifrit EX) and make Rank V drop rarely from minimum iLv-synced Bahamut or something.
Behold, there are now ways to very strongly augment your character that aren't on a lockout!
The only trick is balancing it. Gotta remove overmeld slots for instance.
>>332622871
I agree with you but WoW ruined this for everyone by giving everyone the idea that vertical progression is the only meaningful form of character progression
We will likely never see true horizontal progression again, and players are against doing things just 'for the sake of it' because they can't be bothered to do something that 'has no incentive'
>>332623892
For any % of any element damage to even work they'd need to revamp the damage system again.
Remember that Fire does no fire damage.
>>332623974
WoW was a fucking mistake.
Maybe once legion drops they'll start listening to people who play the damn game for shit.
>>332623354
>Remove gating/caps
>Turbo-autists blow through all content and have full BiS in a day
>"Waaaah, there's nothing to do, this game has no content!"
People want a game where content is created faster than they can clear it apparently.
>>332610898
It is pretty staggereing how many people bought the mount.
Then again I would buy the new Y'shtola outfit the second they put it on the shop, no matter the price.
>>332623873
>>mfw both the sch and the smn eat every single gobhook five attempts in a row
oh, wait until you get to a6s, blaster will be very fun for them
>>332624084
Yeah I know a few people in my FC who finished the first relic step in a week when they wee introduced, then bitched that they had nothing to do cause they don't even raid
>>332624084
And that's why you have varied content systems that give incentives for doing them over a long period of time. Like horizontal progression rewards, or a long term quest like the FFXI relic.
>>332624009
That was more or less implied.
The current battle system is kept together with sticky tape and bits of string though; changing one thing would break everything. I guess just make all Player spells unaspected or something.
>>332624084
See >>332623892 >>332623264
>>332624178
>the new Y'shtola outfit
Isn't that just a slightly reskinned ironwork WHM robe?
>>332624225
Pretty sure we'll be stuck there for at least a month because of these dimwits.
>raid leader is based gay guy
>tells sch she fucking sucks at gobhooks
>she shrieks about how her job is hard
>he tells her it really isn't and sends her a link to ACT call outs
>she still fucks it up
>>332624376
>Shitty healer
>She
Well that explains a lot.
>>332624376
I'm under the impression that every SCH is an inept retard
>>332624376
>based
>gay
>>332624337
>Isn't X just a slightly reskinned Y?
In FFXIV the answer is always Yes.
>Living Liquid
Glasya Labolas
>Nael deus Darnus
Random succubus. Also Shiva.
>Jagd dolls
Sahuagin
>Sephirot
Gilgamesh. Also Ravana.
>Zundu
Amaljaa
>Most beast tribes
Ripped directly from XI
>>332624253
Yeah, but when you design "long term" things around poopsockers, it means that people who play normally can't get anywhere and quit.
Also in an RPG designed around scripted boss encounters, horizontal progression is a myth. Players will always identify the optimal builds and tactics and ignore everything else.
>>332623873
Watching height error go off is literally my favourite part of the raid tier. Get so hyped.
It's the blighted bouquet of our generation.
>>332624524
>reusing skeletons = reskinned
Wew lads.
>>332623440
We've gotten to the point where you get better results by measuring an MMO's success by its cash shop sales.
Did the game successfully manage to get a lot of people to cough up shekels for worthless cosmetic shit they don't need, but makes their character sparkly while they do the same inane shit they'd be doing otherwise? If so, the game was a success.
>>332624337
Nah, they did a little bit more with it. I just really think the NPC gear looks worlds better than the player ones, especially the Thancred and Y'shtola redesign.
