>Nintendo used to be industry leaders in graphical prowess and technology
>now even indie developers can outpace them in graphical fidelity
What happened?
NX will bring them back on top
>>332544135
we can only hope
It's tough to make the argument when it sold ~100 million units, but I think they did a massive disservice to themselves with the Wii.
They made a lot of money but they've also clearly had stagnation in their internal development teams.
>>332543491
actually bothering to create new titles, that are realistic then sure.
Trying to slap a cartoonish game against a realistic game not so much.
>>332543491
>Nintendo used to be industry leaders in graphical prowess and technology
actually they were only ever this for the N64. "Weak/Affordable hardware with good software" is at the core of Nintendo's design philosophy
>>332543491
>video games have to be ULTRA REALISTIC
>when gameplay is the only thing that matters
yep, must be a sony pony.
>>332543491
>leaders in graphical prowess
When? Back in the NES days where they had little competition?
>>332543491
>Promotional artwork
>Actual gameplay while compressed to 180p
People will take this bait
>>332544436
>Gameplay is the only thing that matters
??????
>>332544436
>he thinks gameplay matters in a game with babby difficulty setting where you take literally no damage
>>332544436
>gameplay is the only thing that matters
>playstation 4 game looks better than a wii u game
Holy shit, stop the presses.
Next you're going to tell me PS3 games look better than Wii games.
>>332544558
Not him, but yeah it does.
You buy games to play games.
Music, story, audio and all the others are the icing on the cake, not the cake itself.
>>332543491
you seem to be mistaken, nintendo has always lagged behind their competitors and now they are dying and it's starting to show, there is nothing can save them from the death spiral they are now in, but we will see nintendo IPs finally be handled by competent developers and platinum can finally release bayo2 to the real platforms
>>332544645
>>332544621
I wouldn't expect you guys to get it since gameplay isn't a huge factor in Talladega Nights.
>>332544746
Other than the mountains of money they've saved so they never fall into rough funding again.
It's more realistic for Sony to go bust than Nintendo and Sony's doing great.
>>332544692
but with the rise of the now thriving "walking sim"s, it's clear you are wrong, how a game looks is paramount to it's success
>>332544857
Keep slurping on that plumber cock.
We know Star Fox is good.
We know Horizon will be bad, we're just not quite sure how yet. We didn't know how bad MGSV, Arkham Knight, Fallout 4 (Well, dialogue wheel aside) and others were as well.Also, Xenoblade looks better than Horizon anyway.
Is it fair, bros?
Why the F*CK do we let Sony keep getting away with it?
>>332544960
Keep watching movies.
>>332544404
The gamecube was right between the Xbox and PS2 in terms of graphics. The Wii was the point where they officially said "we aren't competing based on graphics anymore".
>>332545063
Movies with great and challenging gameplay, as opposed to that kiddie shit.
>>332543491
GRAFFIX are killing video games
Nintendo has realized that, and that's why they have a handful of really quite nice games instead of one(1) even on a shitty and doomed console like the Wii U.
>>332544983
So much Nintendrone delusion in one post
>>332545041
>>332544645
>>332544621
>>332544558
good rebuttal here let me post my le epic reaction image
>>332545145
>handful of really quite nice games
>on the Wii U
(you)
>>332545085
>industry leader in graphics
>not the strongest system that gen
like, no.
Anyway,
>Yokoi articulated his philosophy of "Lateral Thinking of Withered Technology" (枯れた技術の水平思考?, "Kareta Gijutsu no Suihei Shikō") (also translated as "Lateral Thinking with Seasoned Technology") in the book, Yokoi Gunpei Game House (横井軍平ゲーム館 Yokoi Gunpei Gēmu-kan?), which consists of a collection of interviews. "Withered technology" in this context refers to a mature technology which is cheap and well understood. "Lateral thinking" refers to finding radical new ways of using such technology. Yokoi held that toys and games do not necessarily require cutting edge technology; novel and fun gameplay are more important. In the interview he suggested that expensive cutting edge technology can get in the way of developing a new product.[9]
>Satoru Iwata, CEO of Nintendo from 2002 until 2015, claimed that this philosophy is still part of Nintendo as it has been passed on to the disciples of Yokoi, such as Miyamoto, and it continues to show itself in Nintendo's then current use of technology
>>332545302
>being this retarded
here's the (you) you wanted
>>332545302
best library so far this gen
>>332544983
>>332544491
Pretty much this.
Instead of putting money towards neat graffix, they put it towards stupid fucking gimmicks. This coming from a lifelong nintendofag.
>>332545353
>>332545356
So this... is the true power.. of the Wii U...
.. woow
>>332543491
>nintendo
>leader in graphical prowess and technology
>>332544953
How about I, I dunno, don't give a fuck about those "games" and continue to play actual games.
You sound like someone at a playground saying "I enjoy it because it's popular!"
People will still make games and I'll still play them and the industry isn't suddenly going to stop doing that.
>defending a corporation
>only buying products from one corporation
>completely ignoring the products of your corporate overlord's rival
If you do any of these, you don't actually like video games and are just brainwashed by CEOs and marketing. If you're anything but an idort, you made the wrong decision.
>>332543491
>guerrilla games
>indie
also most indie games aren't optimized very well
>>332545415
>cherrypicking this hard
whoa...
>>332545512
>12 examples
>cherrypicking
Star fox isn't trying to have photorealistic graphics though, none of Nintendo's games go for that style
>>332545512
>hes not cherrypicking the right way !
face it
nobody cares about your dying japanese corporation that makes baby games
>>332545415
DELETE THIS
>>332544436
I'm a nintendo fanboy, but even I amit that graphics start to matter at least a bit when your home console is 2 generations behind any of your competitors. It's not even just visuals at this point, but considerations like framerate and performance cripple developers and limit their aspirations. A realistic style just isn't viable on the WiiU. All the games end up looking the same because there really aren't that many cartoony, animu or cel shaded graphical styles that haven't been explored.
Nintendo players are also forced to get a PC or another console if they want to play multiplats, because there has been no easy way to copy and paste to the Wii and WiiU.
>>332545512
all console wars are cherrypicking
>>332544491
>>332545401
>>332545450
They made games that were the best looking in the 90s you underage twats
>>332545262
Didn't they just announce that Star Ocean would be censored as well?
>>332545415
half of these aren't even wii u games shitposter-kun
What happend?
>>332545603
>because I have 12 examples (not even, only 6) this means I didn't cherrypick
lmao what
>>332545634
there is no right way to cherrypick you fucking retard
>>332545698
go back to /vp/ will ya
baka
>blatant console war thread
>it's still up after 30 minutes
Guess I'm off this board
>>332544983
>we know star fox is good
no you don't
>we know horizon will be bad
no you don't
>and xenoblade looks better than horizon anyway
no... it doesn't
>>332545603
Yes cherrypicking.
>>332545639
>A realistic style just isn't viable on the Wii U
Yes it is? The Wii U is on the level of or is slightly more powerful than the ps360, which did realistic graphics.
It isn't financially viable because nobody buys that type of game on a Nintendo console but that's a different issue entirely.
>>>/rules/v/2/
>Flaming/flagrant "fanboyism"/etc. will not be tolerated
What did the mods mean by this? They don't enforce this rule at all.
>>332545680
This.
As this thread would show you people are unable to see past what they honestly believe and are so disillusional they will present false evidence and refuse to listen to anything other than what they believe.
>>332545476
This guy and anyone saying gameplay is most important are the only sane ones in the thread.
>>332545821
>most of modern day Nintendo titles are literally medicore trash and shovelware
When did it all go so wrong?
>>332545821
>implying Nintendo published Rodea
>>332545821
>any 1 of those games
>good
>>332543491
Didn't Nintendo say that transitioning to HD was tough for them?
>>332545775
>>332545821
How many do you have to post to not be considered cherrypicking?
>>332545821
JUST
>>332545415
>of the Wii U
>has 3DS games in it
So this... is the true power.. of shitposting...
.. woow
>>332545730
Yamauchi stepped down. Seeing how Nintendo fared in 6th gen, he probably regrets turning down MS' offer of buying them. Keep in mind Microsoft was the ONLY company that Yamauchi ever consider selling his company to.
>Digging up this old and dry husk of a meme
Why
>>332545787
Don't reply to me UNLESS you contribute to the discussion
>>332545976
>How many do you have to post to not be considered cherrypicking?
It has jack shit to do with numbers, it needs to be a representative unbiased sample like this >>332545821 where you don't leave out good or bad games on purpose.
>>332546051
No wonder Iwata killed himself after blundering the Wii U that hard.
I don't blame him.
>>332546093
suck my dog's shit will ya already nintenyearold
>>332545976
are you retarded?
>>332543491
>A screenshot from a game vs a screenshot from a youtube video of a game.
I mean the top still looks better graphically, but come one, man.
>>332546186
You should consider giving yourself cancer and dying as well. inb4 some lame ass joke about playing Wii U games to give yourself cancer. Because you faggots are so easy to read.
>>332545639
>All the games end up looking the same
Im not understanding what you mean by this. You think adapting a realistic art style means that the games will start to look differently?
Even though that art style is based on looking like real life? Are you just a dumb shitposter?
>>332545976
all of them
Putting in some low res shitty youtube image is weak bait. What I don't understand however, is why it's so easy to trick people here with it.
>>332545085
>The gamecube was right between the Xbox and PS2 in terms of graphics.
Gamecube was weaker than PS2, however it was easier to program for.
>>332546462
BECAUSE I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO TROLL! HAHAHAHA GOT YOU GUYS LMAOOO
>>332545639
> All the games end up looking the same
As opposed to games that are all trying to replicate real life visuals?
>>332543491
>industry leaders in graphical prowess and technology
This is some next level shitposting. Are you too underaged to remember the Master System, TG-16, or Genesis?
>>332545415
Now post the good games you skipped over.
PREASE UNDERSTAND I AM DEAD AND MY REGACY IS THAT I KIRR NINTENDO CONSOR FOR BABY
ORE WA GEIDA
>>332545415
>>332546538
>Are you too underaged to remember the Master System, TG-16, or Genesis?
All garbage from irrelevant companies.
>>332546542
>nintendo
>good games
did you miss nappy time today timothy?
>>332544436
it's not even about realistic graphics, you can make a game look stylized but not have shit textures/lighting/draw distance etc.
the saddest part of all is that even when they cut back on graphics there's still framerate issues in games bayonetta and W101
>>332544135
>PS4 powered console with Nintendos tech connections
>PS4 powered console with a screen controller gimmik
Enjoy your $800 console.
>>332546701
They weren't irrelevant back then kid.
>>332546462
Because sony fanboys have nothing to play atm so they make threads to shitpost.
>>332544318
>giant robot dragon vs waifu with bow
>realistic
You what now?
>>332546462
>calling people out for using low quality youtube posts
>Posts promotional artwork
Even though OP is being bias and posting a particularly bad image, the game does look like garbage by all accounts.
Idort master race here I guess. Considering not getting an Xbone because Win10 is gonna get a lot of the games, not sure I want Win10 though.
>grafics matter
lol love this meme
>>332546783
THAT'S NOT TRUE WE HAVE BLOODBORNE AND UH BLOODBORNE THE EXPANSION AND PLENTY OF MATURE GAMES THAT I CAN'T LIST BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRUST ME YOU TODDLER
>>332546751
That's exactly what Super Mario 3D World is though. Only real complaint anyone can have against it is resolution
>>332546758
>800 Dollars
>>332546650
Don't know why this made me laugh so much.
Also, for the PS4 guy did you use a cover for The Last Guardian? I'm sure that's not out yet, I'm a team Ico fanboy so I'd know.
>>332546926
It's not the most graphically intensive game, but to call it garbage is just bullshit. There are some legitimately aesthetically pleasing looking parts of it.
>Nintendo used to be leaders in graphical prowess
People didn't seem to care about that during the N64 and GameCube days now did they? It only matters now, when Nintendo stopped wasting time and money on expensive graphics trying to impress people who don't buy their games. Like it or not, money talks and the Wii made them a lot of money
>Nintendo will die in your lifetime
>>332546525
>yfw
>>332545847
The WiiU's CPU is crap and single-handedly puts it behind the PS3 and 360, even though I concede its GPU is capable of wonderful things. That's why generally WiiU devs don't push the boundaries of what was achieved on the Gamecube and Wii too far.
>>332547106
>Video games will die in your lifetime
>>332547003
If it comes with a screen in a controller and has PS4 level hardware it will have to be.
Nintendo is not as much of a hardware manufacturer as Sony, or even Microsoft (who are also behind Sony as far as tech connections, since Sony is the only hardware manufacturer of the bunch) so right off the bat you're looking at it costing more than PS4, unless they take a massive loss.
If there is a screen controller it bumps the cost up even more. It needs its own rendering hardware, or to sap a large portion of the main displays rendering hardware, which would result in uglier games regardless.
Nintendo generally stick to highly stylized games, so I don't see why they would target PS4 specs. Unless you are going for a realistic look, the power of a console is fairly unimportant. I honestly think they are fine where they are.
Maybe just beef up the hardware enough to put some AA on shit and then call it a day.
>>332547241
Does that really matter when GPU basically does most of the work?
>>332547241
Only like a handful of games really showed the Wii U was stronger than those consoles
>>332547106
If you've enjoyed gaming for any substantial length of time at all you've probably played and had fun with a Nintendo first-party or published game.
Why do you want them to fail?
>>332543491
Gaming became Hollywood, and they're no longer one of the big players.
>>332546510
>Gamecube was weaker than PS2
>>332547095
That image perfectly highlights the issue.
The explosion looks decent, but it's not casting any light, as it wuld on a more modern console.
Thats to say nothing of the bland textures and extremely plain environment(which isn't even a hardware issue) .
>>332546410
>>332546528
Xbone and PS4 have the option of going for a realistic style (eg. CoD), "stylized" realism (eg. Fallout 4 being slightly cartoony but still realistic overall) along with EVERYTHING the WiiU is capable of. So yeah, the games do start to look the same.
>>332547095
Bullshot or NX port?
>>332547096
>N64
N64 was the original nogaems, with 2 years of playstation already on the market all it had were roughly 10 games which on top of that were really overpriced regardless if they were pieces of shit or not thanks to the price of carts alone.
>GameCube
Xbox had better graphics and bigger library of games than it
>>332547306
I don't really think Nintendo would bump up their console prices like that.
Nintendo usually has the cheapest consoles on the market. They always have, hell I don't think I can name one system from them that surpassed 400
>>332547241
The CPU in both Xbone and PS4 are weaker than PS3's so it doesn't quite matter.
>>332546186
haha LOL
>>332547393
If you don't mind your games going into SNES-tier slowdown fits with more than three objects, then no.
>>332547563
>I don't really think Nintendo would bump up their console prices like that.
Then it won't be PS4 level hardware. It would need to be more expensive than the PS4, since it will cost them more to make.
It will be a bit behind Xbone at best if they want to keep it cheap, and probably not much stronger than the WiiU if they force a screen controller again.
>>332547473
Some textures are bland, but I wouldn't say they all are. Also, that lighting and shading is pretty nice.
>>332547506
It's a Super Nintendo port.
>>332547412
Because they're never going back to how they used to be
>>332546987
that game did look pretty good but there's not a whole lot going on to tax the hardware
I'm hoping that for nintendo's next console they cut back on the gimmicks so they can as least be close to on par with the competition like they were with the gamecube as far as hardware is concerned
>>332547456
I see you've quoted my post but forgot to write anything by yourself, what's up with that?
>>332547686
Don't they already do that anyway? Last I checked even the newest Dark Souls has significant slowdowns at points.
>>332547563
thats because the hardware they licenced for their consoles and handhelds is trash and they make the most money out of it even by selling it lower
>>332547763
because you wrote something that's objectively wrong.
>>332544953
Walking sims aren't games. Those are interactive movies. Same thing applies to your average VN.
>>332547554
and PS2 still outsold them despite being weaker than both consoles. Only middle schoolers shit their pants over graphics
>>332547712
There is only baked shading (shaded textures) and the one shadow. Zero Ambient Occlusion or environmental lighting. Also, like I said, no light from the blast. There is a glow render, but it's not casting light.
It does not look like a game from 2016.
Unity games look better than that.
>>332547763
It's common knowledge that the PS2 was the weakest of the three that gen.
>>332547990
>believing this meme
the only reason that the ps2 sold well was because of its ability to play dvds.
>>332547991
I'm seeing dynamic shading in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEobtVGZUH4
>>332547990
Sony wins every gen. What's your point?
>>332546186
iwata didnt kill himself, he died from aids
>>332547701
That's really a moot point, we don't really know how much money they have, how much money they want to spend etc.
Who really knows what they want to do with the NX. But making it as strong or stronger than the PS4, will not make it 800 dollars. That's fucking stupid.
>>332544692
You hate video games don't you ?
>>332546325
has mommy changed your diapers today robert?
>>332548221
Bruh
You know the PS3 exists
>>332548348
How long did it take you to think that up? Was your obese body sweating furious trying to concoct the perfect comeback?
>>332548221
Bruh
You know the PS1 exists
>>332548406
are you saying that the ps3 doesnt have much better games and much more good games in general than the wii ?
>>332548406
According to some twisted logic used lately, they "won" that generation by being the best or something arbitrary like that.
>>332547971
>>332548056
Why do you post without first checking facts? Numbers speak clearly, PS2 had more polys/s as well as more GFLOPS. It didn't have big enough VRAM and that affected texture resolution to a great extent but we don't measure console power in megabytes, do we?
>>332548271
As strong as PS4 and with a second screen gimmik it could easily be $800. I just threw that figure out there, just to get the point across it would be very expansive for Nintendo to release something with PS4 specs.
Sony was already taking a loss on the PS4, and they have way lower production costs.
So yeah, Nintendo could eat a huge loss with their new console and have it be PS4 specs. I doubt they will though, since I am fairly certain they are still the only ones to have never sold their consoles at a loss. Maybe Gamecube but I have no idea.
>>332548431
did you save this reply in a notepad just for that special time to try and insult da ebil sony ponies and fail at it as well ?
>>332548445
And what did PS1 lose to?
>>332548518
I feel like the Wii set a new record for worst "hours played per sale" ratio of any console.
Most people bought it, played for an hour or two, then never touched it again.
>>332548431
I'm guessing she hasn't changed the dypee, no wonder you're so irritable, with your dead homsexual leader damning your company in the near future it's not looking well I must say
>>332548638
I don't need to save anything, insulting you just comes naturally. It's easy when you're a fucking fat NEET that has nothing to do all day but to complain about Nintendo fans.
>>332548518
Why do Sonyggers always move the goalposts when it comes to the PS3?
>PS1 BEAT THE N64 IN SALES LMAO SONY WINS
>PS2 BEAT THE GAMECUBE AND XBOX IN SALES LMAO SONY WINS
>WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SALES GUYS PS3 HAD THE BEST GAMES OF THE GEN
>LMAO PS4 SOLD MORE THAN THE WII U AND XBONE SONY WINS
>>332548596
You're really taking into account if they really are adding a second screen gimmick, which we honestly don't know if they are
Also Wii U sold at a loss when it launched
>>332547878
Not to mention their overpriced proprietary cartridges/discs. With inflation a new $70 N64 game (the typical launch price back then) would be well over $100 today.
>>332548892
Your chicken tendies are ready, better waddle downstairs and bring them back up with you. Don't get the keyboard too greasy though, your sausage fingers tend to leave a mess everywhere when you sweat like the pig you are during a reply.
>>332548917
>>PS1 BEAT THE N64 IN SALES
and games
>>PS2 BEAT THE GAMECUBE AND XBOX IN SALES
and games
>>LMAO PS4 SOLD MORE
and has better games than the other 2
It's pretty straightforward if you don't try to practice mental gymnastics.
>>332548913
I dont need to think hard to 'concoct' a reply, insulting you, an overgrown manchild just comes naturally. It's easy when you're a fat loser that bought all the amiibos and buttfucks himself with the latest handheld buttfucking toy on a daily basis with nothing better to do than cry and insult everyone that talks bad about Shitendo
>rendering the entire game twice at the same time
gee i wonder why star fox looks like hot fucking garbage
>>332549231
Even splitscreen PS2 games look better than that though.
>>332549206
>and has better games than the other 2
>>332549212
Clearly you did, because you took fucking 20 minutes to do so. Your autistic ass was stressing out hard over what to say next. Now you're just fueled by a manchildish rage and rapidly replying with anything your tiny your brain can come up with.
>A-A-AHHH SHITENDO. AHHHH AMIIBOS!
>>332549173
How long are you going to sit in your own shit fatass ?
>>332549206
>better games than the other 2
>games
>>332548584
Just look at RE4 and shut up
>>332549678
What has a rushed port of a former GameCube exclusive have to do with anything?
>>332549470
How mad are you since everything he said is right?
>>332549417
>>332549614
Would you mind explaining?
>>332549765
>rushed port
>added content
JUST
>>332549935
Not sure how about you, but I really don't think that a few months is enough to rewrite the whole engine to work on a different architecture. Adding content is not hard at all.
>>332547473
>deserts aren't normally bland and plain in real life
It's almost like you've never seen a real desert before.
>>332543491
What's the name of the game on top again? I meant to keep an eye on it.
>>332550183
Game might look better with a sky that looks like that then weird yellow sky.
Regardless, the complaint is clearly that it's an alien world. Those rocks must be from alien structures (since there is an archway), and yet they just look like generic rocks.
Even while destroyed, alien structures can be visually appealing.
>>332550135
It was a year not a few months. Already under work for 2004, heck it was even announced before RE4 was even released.
>>332544135
>>332548776
At least it was cheaper, and honestly until about 2008-2009 was a much better choice than the PS3. The 360 was still overall the best console that gen for your typical fratboy "casual gamer". It was a glorious time to be a PC patrician.
>>332550183
fake game engine shots do you no favors sonytard
>>332543491
Top
Bullshot
Made by a company known for medicore games
Bot
Ingame Alpha Footage
Made by a company known for great games
>>332550476
I presume the logic is that the alien structures were built from the sand and rock in the surrounding area.
>NX was supposed to beat the ps4
>NX was going to beat sony in graphics
>Now sony releases a new console without saying it (PS4k)
>Double the power of the PS4
>Sony already winning next gen and this gen
IT JUST ISN'T FAIR.
>>332550479
Why are you even still arguing if you cant come with any facts to counter what he said about the Actual specs of the ps2 and gamecube? Youre just making all nintendrones look worse
>>332548326
My job is kinda focused on it so not really
>>332549890
SPLATOON IS BETTER THAN THE WHOLE FUCKING PS4 LIBERARY FUCK YOUR ONE GAME, BB IS SHIT.
>>332543491
>Nintendo used to be industry leaders in graphical prowess and technology
When?
>>332545476
In another generation you might have a point, but right now I'm seriously struggling to figure out why the hell I'd buy even one modern console, let alone fucking all of them. What do I need 3 four hundred dollar paperweights/doorstoppers for?
>>332545821
>Missing about 10 other good games
>Listed games not developed by Nintendo
What the fuck
>>332543491
They're the only people making video games tho
>>332547106
>Nintendo became bad in your lifetime
>>332550694
Was not the same person, was just correcting him on RE4 information anyway, going back up what he said about GFLOPS in flat out wrong
http://wars.locopuyo.com/cwsystemspecsold.php
>>332547723
>Because I'll never be a child again
Fixed.
>>332551070
>in flat out wrong
*is flat out
>>332550764
Bloodborne is good
>>332550789
Prepared for many "You"s, but Bloodborne is my personal favorite game of all time, and I've played pretty much all highly rated franchises old and new. So I'd say the ps4 is worth it just for that, but again, personal taste.
>>332551070
Why is this page even regarded as a reputable source? It's missing a shitload of information, has a lot of incorrect information, throws numbers out of nowhere and has clearly been written with a lot of bias which is even more evident if you look at the PS3/XB360/Wii comparison on the same site.
>>332545381
is that seriously how the game looks? This isn't some like.. fan made game?
>looks up screenshots
Fucking christ. This looks pretty alright for a ps2 game.
>>332551070
Yeah thats what I thought, but the fact that no1 tried to correct him made me wonder.
You know things are bad when the Wii U and its, at best, mediocre games has the best library in this gen.
god damn Sony exclusives always look so fucking good
looking at multiplats, xbox or nintendo exclusives makes me sad, why can't everything be sony exclusives and look as good as this?
So my theory is that Star Fox Zero was actually a 3ds game but they decided last minute to move it to wiiU. That's the only possible explanation.
>>332551681
I agree, when fanboyism overshadows actual quality of videogames stuff tends to be quite bad for everyone.
>>332551503
I suppose that's because there is nothing to correct. Relying on 1 source for all of your information is very close to the "it's on the internet, it must be true".
>>332551758
That's what I thought about 3DW.
This scene in particular. It's the typical "Look at this amazing 3D" pose
Not that 3DW looks bad
>>332551758
>>332552593
Very possible.
Not like either game appears to have mechanical bottlenecks that would make it not work on something with very low CPU.
>>332544746
>Bayo salt
Just what I needed for my meal, some salt. Thanks bruh
>>332545730
Simple, you cherry picked high scores for the top ones and average-to-low scores for the bottom ones.
>>332545381
Holy shit, you could grate cheese on those jaggies.
>>332552505
>>332551446
Going by console wise then PS2 is theoretically stronger but, when applied it's weaker.
>>332551758
They already had Star Fox 64 3D (oh what a retarded name) on the 3DS though
Horizon looks like shit though
>>332545713
Did they?
are nintenyearolds genuinely autistic?
>>332553329
Stop
>>332553423
you have to be autistic to be the bronies of video games
>>332553423
>Frogposter calling anyone else autistic
>>332553107
Not him but...it's pretty hard to find Nintendo games of the GameCube era with scores lower than 80.
STAR FOX U IS GOING TO BLOW HORIZION OUT OF THE FUCKING WATER
JUST WAIT AND SEE
DOES HORIZON HAVE GYRO CONTROLS?
DOES HORIZON HAVE BRANCHING PATHS?
IS FUCKING HORIZON MADE BY FUCKING PLATINUM????
THOUGHTS SO REEEEEEEEEE
>>332553423
Webm related
>>332545698
They invested in superior technology for the N64 and were outsold by the PS1.
They invested in superior technology for the Gamecube and were outsold by the PS2.
So naturally the lesson they took away from this was that people prefer affordability to superior technology, and that the lower price leads to a larger install base which leads to more games which leads to a larger install base and so on. And with both the DS and Wii this was a major success. So with the Wii U Nintendo aimed to do the same thing: use older, more affordable technology to gain a larger install base faster than the competition.
However, what they didn't anticipate was that the people who the PS2 and Wii appealed to would rather buy an Xbox 360 which is even cheaper and already has years worth of cheap games. They weren't competing with the more expensive consoles, they were competing with the cheaper last generation ones.
This is why the Wii U failed. If they had waited till Smash and Mario Kart were ready and launched it with those, it probably would have had better success. If they could have gotten that big install base out of the gate publishers would be lining up to downport their Calladoody and Fallout shit to Wii U, I mean why would they pass up the chance to just lower the polygon count and resolution and get easy money?
>>332544135
ps4.5 sony is going to bury nintendo like they buried sega
>>332550183
>every desert is the fucking Sahara
>>332544692
I disagree. That's like saying that visuals are the only thing that matters in movies, or completely ignoring lyrical concepts in songs. Yes, well done cinematography is very important for most movies, but if I am watching, for instance, a documentary like Exit Through the Gift Shop, I'm not watching it for the amazing shots, because there aren't any really beautiful shots, I'm watching it for the interesting story and characters that I'm learning about. When I watch Trailer Park Boys, it's not because the visuals are so nice. If I'm listening to, say, Bob Dylan, yes his musical accompaniment is well done, but I'd be an idiot if I said "lyrics don't matter, the only thing that matters is the sound".
The sound of music, and the visuals of movies are the base that you build on, but unless you have a really fucking good base you typically want to add other things. Those things matter because they can take a strong base (take the Dylan example again) and make it into a classic piece of art.
It's a hard concept to explain, but while there are expectations that I have when I go to play a game, I enjoy things that aren't games like movies and music as well, so if I went to play a game and it was literally just a movie (the most extreme scenario where the dev thinks that gameplay matters so little he removed it), I would be confused but I'd still enjoy it if it was a good movie. This applies to all ranges of this concept: I don't care what weighting the dev' uses for gameplay, music, story, audio, etc, etc, so long as I am enjoying what is happening.
This is why the "they aren't games" indictment of "walking simulators" is a confusing one to me. I would understand it if the implication was "they aren't games, you shouldn't post them on /v/", but more often it seems to be "they aren't games, you shouldn't enjoy them". I can enjoy things that aren't games, even if they are pretending to be games. I enjoy lots of things that aren't games.
>>332555238
>They invested in superior technology for the N64 and were outsold by the PS1.
Maybe you wouldn't believe it, but higher price of the games as well as the hardware itself together with the fact that PS1 had a steady stream of games for 2 years already while N64 at the same point in time only had ~10 games doesn't lend itself easily into good sales.
>>332555238
>with the Wii U Nintendo aimed to do the same thing: use older, more affordable technology to gain a larger install base faster than the competition
And this would have worked if they didn't ask premium price for it despite the shit hardware. Ditching the tablet would have easily helped them to drop its price by at least $100 without having to resort to selling at a loss.
