haven't seen one of these in a while
I think 20 points and each category having 5 levels is too much.
Should be 3 levels each and 10 points
>>332535753
Gameplay-5
Story-3
Graphics-4
Music-2
Audio-2
Art style-4
It really depends. I've played some games purely for the gameplay, others purely for the story and some games for the music and art style. Most of the time I would go for best possible gameplay but it's not necessary for a great game.
>>332535753
what the hell is "art style" and why is it different from "graphics"
>>332536746
It's not that hard to drop it into paint and just fill it in.
>Chrono Trigger.png
>>332535753
>want good art style with low graphics
>want good music but low audio
Actually what
>>332535753
For indie
5 gameplay
0 story
3 graphics
5 music
3 audio
4 art style
For AAA:
5 gameplay
5 story
4 graphics
1 music
3 audio
2 art style
>>332536569
Objectively the best distribution.
>>332537161
Ever play Super Metroid? It's kinda like that.
>>332537139
>5 music
>1 audio
Must be some great bleep bloops
>>332537161
sound effects are nowhere near as important as music, unless we are talking about a horror game.
good artstyles completely make up for weak graphics- look at wind waker- technically that shit is nothing. but because of the artstyle, a simple HD upres makes the game competitive with many modern next gen games.
you have one amphipod to pick
pick wisely
>>332535753
>>332537268
Another example is Sonic Adventure 2 Battle.
>I'll use yourCHAOS CONTROL!
>>332535753
What is the point of art style?
Easily.
I'm a simple man
>>332536982
On my phone, sorry
>>332537462
it's like would you rather have photorealistic call of duty (graphics) or something unique and interesting (like okami, for example)
>>332537462
pleb
>>332535753
>anyone with less than 5 points in gameplay
lmao
>>332535753
You nailed it, OP
That's how a fucking great game gets made.
>>332537598
4 can be acceptable.
let's make this more interesting.
>>332535753
Music and gameplay are most important Imo, but story is important too
>>332537794
My score stays the same.
A god tier single player game is better than a decent multiplayer.
>>332536928
You can have a good artsyle (design direction, aestethics choice, and so on) while having shit graphics (graphics being the technological aspect behind).
>Dishonored: Shitty graphics, good artsyle. (Slightly cartoonish with pastel color palette that hide pretty well the fact you have piss poor texture and quite low poly model)
>Lord of the Fallen: Good graphics, meh artstyle (decent but very generic).
>>332537794
without giving us any more points to spend its just going to end up a shit game not worth playing
>Gameplay
3
>Story
5
>Graphics
4
>Music
2
>Audio
2
>Art style
4
I did gameplay so low since I'm a fan of turnbased combat
>>332537350
the pink one
>people actually want story that low
I hope your game is a platformer
>>332537895
it's a realistic hypothetical. budget constraints exist, make due with what you have.
>>332535753
make it for gamecube
>>332537997
not funny and doesn't even add up to 20
apply yourself
>>332537794
'offline multiplayer' meaning singleplayer with an online scorebord?
Music is Audio
Art Style is implied in Graphics
0/10 image come back when you learn something about videogames
>>332538098
co-op mode
>>332535753
Audio is very important, music is less, imo. It's a super sweet touch to have but you shouldn't sacrifice other aspect for it.
Funny how most of these posts rate graphics fairly low but games are often criticized heavily on here for having "shit graphics".
>>332538182
>Music is Audio
>Sounbds like gunshots are the same as an OST
Sure thing, buddy.
Not sure where I'd put the last point
>>332535753
![1459359365408[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pf37UDu.png "1459359365408[1].png")
>>332535753
>>332538182
Bro, you are one stupid motherfucker.
Art style implies putting money into talented artists who are capable of creating a unique style that enhances the visual presentation of the game.
Graphics implies putting money into programmers capable of effectively optimizing the art style so the game can run smoothly and look great.
THE SAME GOES FOR MUSIC VS AUDIO
YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT 'BOUT SHIT NIGGA
>>332537287
>>332537794
here's mine btw
bring back couch co-op
>>332535753
Everything is pretty much equally important to me, the different aspects of the game should all work together to make something good
>>332538460
you're kinda right about graphics/art style but you're wrong about music/audio
music is the soundtrack
audio is the voice acting and sound effects
The only option.
reminder: if you rank anything higher than gameplay, ESPECIALLY story or music, you're the reason gaming is dying faster by the second and should explore alternative mediums
>>332536928
>what the hell is "art style" and why is it different from "graphics"
>>332538923
>These are the people who put 5 on art style and 0 into gameplay
M-muh whyfoos
M-muh animoo shit!
It depends of what kind of game really. I had (J)RPG's in mind when filling in this one.
>>332537350
E's the most well rounded so him
>>332535753
more like you start with 10 points then pay $1.99 per point to unlock 10 more
Maybe I should play more rhythm games
>>332539172
>JRPGs
>Gameplay
>>332535753
On phone
Gameplay 5
Story 4
Graphics 2
Music 4
Audio 2
Art Style 3
>>332539008
I haven't even made a chart, asshole. I just answered with a random image that was somewhat related to your question.
>>332539254
nice gradients anon
The fact most of you care about gameplay more than story is telling that the new generation of kids are here.
How sad.
>>332537883
you should add "frames per second" into the mix, then
>>332537350
D or bust
guess the game
>>332537794
>>332539403
Weebshit is an instant 0 to gameplay. Deal with it fag.
>>332538051
Pretty much wind waker, except that gets at least one more point in music
>>332539447
Yeah man, us fellow oldfags only cared about the story in those NES games
>>332535753
Instead of coloring the blocks I have used some cute anime girls to fill in the spaces!!
Audio design is an important part of an immersive and satisfying experience. If everything sounds like wet dishtowels slapped against a $30 microphone, that's no good!
>>332537350
D
Who the fuck needs defense when you can dodge everything and have enough attack to kill quickly? You even get a decent amount of special out of this deal too.
>>332535753
what would a 5 art style 0 graphics game look like?
>>332539639
>Gameplay not at 5
>Weebshit
What a surprise. Weebfags confirmed cancer killing vidya.
>>332539586
I fucking hate you and everything you stand for.
Without a good story, why the fuck would you want to play a game in the first place?
>>332539687
>>332539786
to have fun you fucking moron
without a good story, why would you want to play a sport? a board game? watch a talk show? a standup special? a gameshow?
a fucking enormous chunk of entertainment media is storyless
>>332539786
Really?
>All these low Audio fags
Enjoy your shit tier voice acting and lame sound effects.
>>332537350
>not updating it to include the objectively best option
>>332539447
> Be in the mid 80s
> Videogames golden age
> Pac Man, Mario, Duck Hunt the list goes on
> "This shit sucks it has no story"
>>332539904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHPjpflNssY
Samorost 3 just came out, I'm so psyched.
I loved Machinarium and I'm gonna rush Samorost 1 & 2 before playing 3.
>>332539938
Congrats on being the new change that is killing video games.
You just described mobile games on your fucking phone. Fuck
It's kinda hard to differentiate beween graphics and art style
What do hand-drawn isometric
>>332540027
>Having low gameplay
>>332540036
>Putting nothing into graphics or gameplay
Now do it again, but this time gameplay costs 2 points
>>332540092
What do hand-drawn isometric environments fall under?*
>>332540083
it's almost like there's room in the industry for both you fucking narrowminded tunnelvision turbodumbass
>>332540158
10 into gameplay, 5 into graphics, 5 into audio is the only answer.
>>332540027
>he plays videogames for the music
>>332539720
>being a "gameplay is literally the only important aspect of a video game" kid
They're a sum of their parts anon. Some weighted differently than others, sure. But if one aspect is completely neglected, it always shows.
Nobody would give a shit about Hotline Miami if it didn't rock that 80's aesthetic, for example. It'd just be cast off as a "flash game" or some shit.
>>332540136
>Low gameplay
3/5 is average.
Besides good music and story is going to make the game much more memorable.
>>332540158
but this doesnt make any sense. story, gameplay and art style should cost less than everything else because they are conceptual. the actual cost in time and money of making a game comes from actually rendering it (graphics, music, audio)
>>332540242
>undertale the chart
>>332540269
>Weeaboo calling someone else a kid
>Thinking video games are sums and not exponentially more based on how they play, their mechanical depth, and the skill ceiling
But by all means I already knew you were the cancer killing video games. Buying into putrid shit because of an awful, poorly drawn sameface art style and fanservice.
>>332540274
You know what makes it even more memorable? Actual good gameplay
>>332535753
5
3
3
4
2
3
>>332540356
This isn't supposed to be realistic you autist, it's about what people value most out of those 5 options
>>332538424
>when you see it
I'm assuming audio is referencing sound design, I.E. everything except the score.
If a game's soundtrack is bad or under-utilized, I generally end up listening to music anyway. I feel bad because I know how skilled these guys who do sound design are, but I just don't give a damn 90% of the time.
I'll care about sound design when game's become immersive enough to warrant it, which is why game's need to hire real writers for fuck's sake.
A year ago I might've put Gameplay further in the backseat, but after witnessing TW3's historically awful gameplay, I realize now it at least need to be playable. How TW3 went gold is beyond me.
>>332540387
Now that's an artful way to dodge your way out of being proven wrong.
>>332536569
this
>>332540361
>Gameplay and story are maxed
>This is Undertale
dun care anymore RPG
>>332540361
>undertale
>good gameplay
>undertale
>good story
>>332540547
Says the guy that didn't refute or respond at all and just claimed himself to win.
Totally a childish maneuver, weeaboo.
>>332537462
its okay if its realism
but even that, art style makes things look fitted
>>332535753
5
3
2
4
2
4
This thread is kind of redundant when you consider all the game genres and what aspects makes them "good" games within that scope.
>>332535753
>artstyle and graphics are separate
What's the fucking point.
>>332540736
>Weebshit
>Good anything
>>332540387
Says the newfag, ranting against the anime-related banner that shows up every time he refreshes the page to post stupid ass shit against cartoons because a mediocre youtuber told him so
>>332540456
I don't think so, Its hard to define what a 5 on this scale is but when I think about memorable games its always because of the story and atmosphere. The Gwyn reveal isn't remembered because he was a good well designed boss. Its remembered because of how up until then the story had built him up and the music contrasted with pretty much every other fight in the game.
>>332540815
Is framerate part of an artstyle?
5 gameplay, 5 artstyle, 5 audio, 3 graphics, 1 story, 1 music
Gameplay is obvious, audio as in sunddesign copliments the gameplay, same for artstyle to a lesser degree, fuck stories, graphics is a vague term but I take it as 'aiming to be photorealistic' and I don't need that
>>332540815
To separate Art Style and Graphics?
Are you retarded?
>>332540953
No it's a part of gameplay
>>332540908
And the entirety of DaS is of course most remembered for its story and gameplay, and not the fact that it had gameplay different from other AAA games
You dumb cunt
>>332535753
>>332540883
Nice tinfoil hat, retard.
Or maybe people just think you're pathetic for liking objectively the worst shit in all forms of media.
>>332538424
thanks doc
>>332540992
then you logically have to separate gameplay and performance.
Music and audio should just be "audio" and atmosphere should be added
![f9e0a47f988f5dbc39bb4190592f2d6a[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9dkq3ia.png "f9e0a47f988f5dbc39bb4190592f2d6a[1].png")
>>332540774
It's neat to see everyone's different tastes in games this way. Also why 5 story/music and only 1 audio?
>>332540945
dorf fort
>>332541235
Sure, go for it. May as well throw in CGI too, since Square Enix is proving to not be able to keep up with VisualWorks.
This ain't my thread though, so fuck it.
>>332541245
Fight the system anon.
>>332540945
>no graphics
>no audio
>no story
how the fuck do you play it? Is it just a feeling?
>>332535753
good music is a pleasant surprise not a defining feature imo.
I like RPGs.
I guess this, I don't know what audio really is, like sound effects?
You can tell who all the weebs are when their gameplay score isn't a solid 5.
>>332541429
sound effects, ambient atmospheric noises, and voice acting
easy
>>332541392
see >>332541365
also nethack
>>332540387
>Thinking video games are sums and not exponentially more based on how they play, their mechanical depth, and the skill ceiling
By that logic the only games worth a shit are Arena FPSes, Grand Strategy games, spreadsheet/autism simulators and Fighting Games.
Which is not true in the slightest.
There are people enjoyed FFVII for it's story and soundtrack.
There are people who pick up Guilty Gear and Blazblue because they think the characters look cool.
There are people who bought Star Wars Battlefront because it looked gorgeous (as cancerous a no-content DLC-ridden shitpile as it is, the game looks stunning).
People play Pokemon to collect the monsters they like instead of tryharding online.
There are people who enjoyed Dark Souls for it's atmosphere instead of PvP.
Harvest Moon is popular because it's "comfy".
etc. etc. etc.
>>332540740
You need to be more patient, buddy.
>>332536569
Mirror's Edge
>>332541425
>I like RPGs.
Then you should take at least 2 off of gameplay
>>332541465
is MGS a weeb series? I never played that shit for the gameplay.
>>332541245
>Nintendo & DC vs Playstation & Marvel
![f392efa9d3fc33c7512689260bf40d37[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/V1qnjAB.png "f392efa9d3fc33c7512689260bf40d37[1].png")
Definitely depends on what type of game, though.
>>332541586
>one gameplay
Why not just make it zero?
>>332541723
I didn't want to break the rules.
>>332541586
>Graphics 5
>Art Style 1
>Staring at a 4k, 60fps video of a guy pooping for 20 hours
>>332541465
heavy rain and the order are weeb games now?
>>332535753
>>332541517
>By that logic the only games worth a shit are games worth a shit
Yup
>There are people who enjoyed FFVII, Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Pokemon, Battlefront, Pokemon, Harvest Moon, etc
Yeah, and those people are retards. Literal cancerous blights on the video game industry.
>>332539720
>posts on 4chan
>hates on weebshit
What a surprise. Redditers confirmed for killing 4chan
>>332535753
That looks like super Mario 3D world
>>332541056
Right, which is why I placed a heavier priority on Story than gameplay, Something like Bastion clearly had better Story,Music,Audio and Art Style than its Gameplay and Audio and it is a quite memorable game.
When Metal Gear Revengeance came out all everyone could talk about was RULES OF NATURE.
You can't deny that music and story are integral to how you feel about the game afterwards.
>>332535753
what tier of gameplay would a tactics-based game fall under? preferably one that isn't limited to square tiles and that is more developed/complex than something like FFTactics?
>>332541586
>The Order 1887
>>332541946
3 or 4
>>332538424
Amazing
>>332541980
>The Order
>Story
DUDE WEREWOLVES IN LONDON LMAO
>>332541114
you're just as pathetic for posting on a website made for the "worst shit in all forms of media"
>>332541820
>4k, 60fps
Is that really what peasants think "great graphics" means?
Objectively correct answer.
>>332541898
>>332542067
>Retards still think that weeb boards aren't the minority of 4chan, much less their activity
B-b-but muh webobo banners!
I like my games how I like my characters - indecisively min-maxed.
Gameplay 4
Story 4
Graphics 2
Music 3
Audio 3
Art style 4
+-1 depending on mood
Can't believe the amount of people who don't appreciate a story. What? You only play games to pwn noobs?
>>332542189
>No artstyle
Get ready for a documentary with a pretty sick OST anon.
>>332541936
I love Chivalry but I couldn't pick out any music of the game and the story is just there to deliver reasons for what the different sides are shouting
>>332542189
So you're making a Pixar movie?
>>332542271
>18 boards dedicated to subjects about japan
>3 boards for video games
>1 board for nearly everything else save for porn
point me to the 30 video game boards for 50 television boards.
>>332541840
>>By that logic the only games worth a shit are games worth a shit
>Yup
I should've known you wouldn't have anything to say worth a shit from the first response.
Carry on witch hunting things because Filthy Frank or whatever Youtuber you watch told you so.
Don't forget to post twitter threads about SJWs and how you're boycotting things because of censorship as well.
Also enjoy your next game of Dota 2 and CS:GO.
Your next response will be:
>kill yourself animefag
>>332542291
In a decent game you can form a story yourself.
4X and roguelikes are a proof to this.
>>332542275
This could be great horror game.
>>332542064
>warewolves in london
Way to sum up a game, so insightful. Avatar is a rip off of Pocahontas right?
Let's try to sum you up
>fucking idiot
>>332542353
And other boards will give you shit if you can't shut the fuck up about videogames for one second
Similar rules apply to weeaboo shit outside weeaboo boards
What's your point?
>>332535753
>audio and music are separate categories
Shit template
I always turn music off unless they do something retarded like tie the setting with cutscenes or whatever.
>>332542353
I said minority of 4chan, dipshit. Also, only 15 weebfag boards.
That's the minority of 4chan. Nowhere near half.
>>332540740
I wasn't the guy you were replying to though. I was just a random lurker that your level of faggotry pulled out of silence.
>>332542291
You can only fully appreciate a story so many times, but you can enjoy replaying a good game any time you want.
>>332537268
That seems weird to me. Like its undervaluing 2D or something. I feel like Super Metroid is a great looking 2D game. And I don't think that being 2D lowers a games graphic's value
>>332542467
>Similar rules apply to weeaboo shit outside weeaboo boards
Actually no.
Mods do enforce video games to be kept to vidya boards, but mods do not enforce anime to be kept to anime boards.
Why? Because 4chan is an anime website at its core and always has. 4chan's never been a video game website at its core. You're allowed to post weebshit on any board freely.
In fact, you cannot be accepted into the staff unless you acknowledge that 4chan is built on otaku culture in the first place.
>>332542572
>the minority
weebs get 18 boards
everything else gets 1 board.
>>332542465
Not that anon but everyone knows Avatar is a FernGully rip-off.
>>332542379
>Still wearing that tinfoil hat
>Implying I play CS or Dota with other weebfags
>Still saying "I WAS EXPECTING THIS SO THAT MEANS IT'S REFUTED EVEN THOUGH EXPECTING NOTHING MEANS LITERALLY NOTHING."
If only you finished school before rotting in your Mom's basement to watch your weebshit. Maybe you'd have some functioning brain cells.
>>332535753
>>332542695
Again, 4chan. We're talking about 4chan, dipshit. 4chan has 67 boards. Only 15 of those are weebfag cancer containment boards.
Now quit being surprised when non-weeb boards get pissed at your blatant faggotry whenever it shows itself.
>>332542572
>18 weeaboo/jap boards
>1 politic board
>1 tv board
>1 weapon board
>2 sport boards
>3 vidya boards
>1 cooking board
>1 music board
>and so on
WEW
>>332542637
You're underestimating the artstyle.
Remove a point from gameplay and graphics, dump it into artsyle, and then it would be accurate.
>haven't seen it in a while
Because it's a stupid thread. Every variation has been talked about, and there's only a few good answers anyway.
I almost gave music 5 because music really sets the mood for video games.
>>332542626
If you experience a great story, that shit will stay with you for life. You don't go looking to experience it again, you can't because you did it already.
A great ass game however, well that will get tiring if it's all you ever were to play.
>>332542291
>guy who doesn't bother filling out the picture gets more replies than anyone else
>>332542845
it's more cancerous to hate weebshit on 4chan
it's a requirement for mods and janitors to be weebs regardless of board
>>332541545
You must be confused, he put 5 points in gameplay.
>>332542324
Right but in the case of Chivalry I'd say that part of the reason people remember that game is the Audio. You can't make a Chivalry without seeing at least some AGATHAposting.
Something like Lisa still gets threads every once in a while and that game had dreadfully dull gameplay. although some of the stuff like the arm chopping could be considered gameplay accentuating the story.
>>332542703
Except I refuted you on every post bar the previous one where I stooped to your level because you unironically implied that only four genres of games are worth playing.
>>332543008
No, it's more cancerous to leave your faggot boards and try to talk about your faggot shit where it isn't warranted. It's rule breaking, and it's insufferable.
Even MLP faggots typically stay in their board. Meanwhile weebs have 15 boards out of the 67 total and they still feel the need to shitpost their faggotry everywhere. Then they somehow are surprised when people react negatively to their bullshit.
>>332540059
kekked heartily
Everyone keep posting charts of games that you like.
It's fun to come up with their scores.
What's with all the bitching?
I thought this was supposed to be a fun thread
Never ever.
>>332536569
>arcade game
#no sells
>>332543248
I fucking love that meme
>>332543134
Except you didn't. You didn't even address anything I said half the time, and other times just acknowledged something only to just claim it wrong.
I also didn't say four genres of games are worth playing. I just agreed that the ones you mentioned were indeed good genres because they focus on gameplay.
170+ hour rpg based on Greek mythology, Japanese mythology, sci-fi elements, and Lovecraftian horror. GOTY
>>332543338
>muh atmosphere
>not giving a fuck about the game soundtrack
>>332543354
>>332542845
They are non-weeb boards on a weeaboo website
>>332543192
>It's rule breaking
It actually isn't. 4chan has always been a website built around anime imagery and otaku culture. Mods have never made it against the rules to post anime images on non-anime boards and have even cracked down on people tell weebs to leave plenty of times in the past.
>Even MLP faggots typically stay in their board
That's because 4chan isn't a pony website. There's specific rules to keep ponyshit contained but there's none for weebshit, because 4chan's always been a weebsite at its core. moot specifically gave 4chan to hiroyuki because he feared nobody else would understand the significance of otaku culture on 4chan
I'm a virgin and horny
>>332543354
>>332543248
Head on back to rebbit and facebook then never come back
>>332543445
which geam
>>332543484
That's what audio is for
>>332543661
>>332539491
DmC: Devil May Cry: Special Edition
>>332543562
>Weebs still cling to that long refuted, poorly formulated image macros
I guess when you're so braindead you can't think for yourself, you might be that desperate.
>It's a weeaboo site
Except it isn't. It's a website with 67 topics, 15 of which are weebfaggotry.
>Never made it against the rules to post anime images
I never said anything about that, but good job loading your argument like a gigantic faggot as usual.
>>332535807
>>332536569
This with a slight adjustment. Some context is greatly appreciated. Favorite games are Metroid Prime and Dark Souls.
>>332543804
>Except it isn't. It's a website with 67 topics, 15 of which are weebfaggotry.
67 topics for people who enjoy anime to discuss non-anime things with people who enjoy anime.
Why do moderators still post anime on non-anime boards?
Why do anime banners still appear plenty of times on non-anime boards?
Why is yotsuba our website's mascot if we're not an anime website?
>>332535753
>1 point in story
Better no story than a shit story.
What exactly are these charts suppose to determine? How much effort is going to go into each category? How much budget? Can't you public domain music and sounds for audio and music?
>>332543445
Can you browse the internet with a Kindle?
>>332543562
I hate smug weebs, but anti-anime fags are just as bad.
>>332544018
Your ideal kind of game.
Or you can just rate a game you like based on the chart.
couldn't care less about audio
>>332542845
Someone's pissed
>>332543661
>>332544018
I think just generally how much time is put into each. You can public domain sounds and music, but still need to fit them into the game.
>>332543972
>For people who enjoy anime
Except that's wrong, because the activity is from the non-weebs as evidenced plenty of times before. Again, good job loading your argument even though there's zero indication pointing towards you weeaboos being anything besides an extremely vocal minority.
>Why do mods do whatever the fuck they want?
Why are mods lazy faggots and let rule-breaking shit stay on boards? Same reason. Because there's no obligation.
>Why do anime banners appear
Because for a website to receive easy funding, advertisements are an easy way to do it, and weeaboos are the most pathetic and predictable retards to market towards. Even easier money than CoD kiddies.
>Why is Yotsuba our website's mascot
To the vocal minority of retarded weeaboos, yes it is. Not that it would have any bearing on the fact that the minority of boards are weebshit, and the minority of activity are weebs.
>>332543390
>You didn't even address anything I said half the time
I refuted your claim that the quality of a game is exponentially and primarily based on "how they play, their mechanical depth, and skill ceiling" by citing merits that games had beyond gameplay and aspects of games people might appreciate just as much, or more than the gameplay itself.
You then just cast anybody who enjoyed games for those reasons as "cancerous" and continued feverishly slinging insults.
At that point there's literally nothing I can do other than to stoop to the same level or stop replying because we're obviously both set in our opinions.
>I also didn't say four genres of games are worth playing
>>"By that logic the ONLY games worth a shit are games worth a shit"
Ergo, games that fall under four genres I happened to bring prior are the only games worth a shit, apparently.
>>332544025
Yeah you can
everything looks shit though when it's rendered in that E-ink display
unless they changed it, it's been 4 years since I bought one
>>332544025
Yes.
>>332543997
I like to think if you put 1 point into the story you'd pretty much have something like Armored Core or Dark Souls where they just leave bits and pieces for you to make up your own shit.
>>332544460
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How fucking retarded are you?
