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>Dark Souls 1
>lose 50,000 souls
>it's okay because you can easily get them again
>learn from mistakes
>Dark Souls 2
>lose 50,000 souls
>is forever on your soul memory
>limits contact with other players
>can't lower soul memory whatsoever
dark souls 2 had terrible design choices, we've been over this. We now need to decide whether we all hate or love dark souls 3
>dark souls 3
>souls never leave your body
>even when you die
>>332528058
No way that's true.
>just a couple of thousands left before I clock over 5kk and will get even fewer matches and even more buttdevastation
how to stop
>>332528352
It's true
>>332528352
It's sort of true. You find a ring early on that's like the sacrifice ring but never breaks
>>332528430
don't try to b8 me ever again
>>332527709
lol quit being a scrub and use trainers like literally everyone else
>>332528403
>5kk
sup brazil
>>332528058
Dark Souls should be easier so EVERYONE can enjoy it. Why should it be limited to players who want to be challenged?>people actually think like this
>>332528506
>never breaks
Easy mode detected.
>>332528506
I'm pretty sure that was the ring of sacrifice.
>>332528506
If its true, i hope it gets patched so it can break upon death like previous ones.
>>332528727
It basically is
I can already see apologists saying
>b-but you don't have to wear it!!!
They should have just made a separate easy mode with no trophies or achievements or online for these shitters, if they truly had to
>>332528506
trade off?
>>332528638
You're a fucking retard
>>332528768
>>332528749
It's got another name, I can't remember it, golden something ring. It isn't meant to break, it's not a bug
>>332528841
Or give it some kind of debilitation like ATK down 40%.
This worries me, but thank god theres no SM.
>>332528506
You can't be fucking serious, god damn normalfag casuals ruining everything
50k doesnt make sense in connection with other people. There is a lot of low skilled like you who lose souls, or just people who dont rush to the boss. If you lose really much then you are retarded and should stop playing this game, that's it.
>>332528930
Not this guy but
>being this much of an illiterate
>>332528875
A wasted ring slot and probably a debuff of some kind. Maybe -75% souls received? That's how I would balance it, aside from just removing it entirely
>what's the agape ring
>>332527709
Wasn't Soul Memory based on Souls Spent?
>>332529026
>defending Soul Memory
>>332529048
>doesnt fix DS2 from being shit
>>332529046
It's not exactly a wasted slot though
It's incredibly useful and could make you snowball into being more and more overpowered
>>332529095
No, you dense cunt.
Hell they even made a ring to avoid collecting souls into your SM.
>>332529095
Nope
Any souls you ever get are added to your soul memory
Kill a rat?
Added to SM
>>332529048
>wasting a ring slot for some shit that shouldn't be in the game
>>332529095
No, the moment you acquire the souls your SM goes up.
If it was based on souls spent it would actually be an acceptable mechanic.
>>332528930
So you want the game to be easier.
>>332528506
10/10 I actually looked it up out of fear
>>332529128
SM is a good thing, only casul faggots cry about it.
It actually protects you from being invaded by retarded twinks like 'haha i wont level up and will spend souls only on weapon'
>>332529128
the point of SM is that as you do pvp you get better at the game while simultaneously being moved into higher tiers to fight better players, I don't see the issue
>>332527709
Dont summon other people, what are you casual?
>>332528727
>>332528749
>>332528768
>>332528875
>>332528991
>>332529401
>HURR GAME CASUALIZED AND IMMEDIATELY RUINED EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN LITERALLY GIVE YOURSELF 9999999999999999999999999 SOULS WITH CHEAT ENGINE IN 2 MINUTES
>>332529459
doesn't sound more like a casual thing to complain about twinks...
>>332529476
> have 50k souls
> die
> die again before recovering bloodstaininb4 git gud
> your SM just went up 50k and you didn't get stronger at all
>>332529553
You quickly get too much SM and then can't find ANYONE online, to pvp or help them fight bosses
>>332529476
It also hindered coop, you moron.
>>332529583
the franchise died when PCucks got their sweaty hands on it
petitioners ruin everything
>there's a ring that boosts kick effect
That's actually neat.
>>332529583
There's a difference between a bug that will be patched and an in-game item that removes the death penalty.
>>332529476
Summoning/getting summoned gets harder and harder.
>>332529476
That actually makes sense.
I often forget that Dark Souls 2 was designed around PvP, and that that is the reason it was so bad.
>>332529774
There is no proof of that ring
>>332529656
>>332529690
50k is nothing, my character was level 210 and I only had 4m soul memory. From what I've read there were tons of players even in the 10m range
>>332527709
My friend is on NG++++++, and is level 250 - he bought DS2 during NG++, but quit within a day and went back to DS. I think he's trying to reach level 700. How do I intervene before he gits too gud?
SM in DaS2 literally forces you to make a backup of your save at specific SM brackets so you can keep co-oping/pvp'ing in specific areas.
>>332529887
Maybe some people don't want to automatically be stuck with playing with cunts who just abuse hexes and orbs above their head
>>332529607
Im not complaining, im saying that it kinda protects.
>>332529690
>>332529692
You are not only one bad player in the universe you idiot, there is always a lot of faggots like you who kill a lot or die-lose souls a lot, you must be really retarded to get to the point where you cant find any summon
>>332529887
50k is like 5 brackets in the early game
>>332529476
The issue is that it continuously pushed every character towards endgame havelyn pvp and is a major hassle for people who want to have some themed builds around.
>>332529583
All I said was that there's an easier path to beating this game.
Are you literally retarded Anon?
Am I the only one who thinks soul memory is fine? I'm at like 7 million and still have no issue finding people. Only like 200k of that was lost forever.
>>332529476
>get good
>Level up to the point where your stats allow you to hold your weapon of choice
>upgrade your gear
Now souls are worthless, unless you're a faggot and overlevel.
>>332529850
>implying that pvp is worse than pve
lel
>>332530173
Yes, you can be the special retarded snowflake.
>>332530328
>people who don't gimp themselves are faggots
>>332529690
Is that why i've never been invaded? I'm at the Lost Bastille at 64k SM. Scholas of the First Sin by the way.
Was losing maximum health each time you died bad game design?
>>332530397
I don't see how the alternative is any better. Sure they're both flawed but you can't honestly believe soul memory wasn't an improvement to how it was handled in the first game. The community deciding on a level cap for pvp is just stupid. It sounds like it's gonna be even worse in DaS3.
>>332530397
A fuckin bad player complains about game and shitting normal player lmao
>>332530536
Probably because in Ds2 there is no uncracked red eye orb
And getting cracked red eye orbs is a massive hassle
>>332529774
Personally I wouldn't even consider it a big deal since lost progress and time bothers me far more than losing souls. I've been keeping myself somewhat in the dark about the game, does DS3 bury you in souls like DS2 did?
>>332528930
Go and stay go casual
>>332530543
It was an incentive to play better.
>>332530543
Yes. One of the only things I hate about DaS II.
It works counter to the philosophy that you should learn from your deaths.
>>332527709
DaS 2 is the perfect example of one step forward and two steps back.
>can be invaded even when hollow
>peer connection isn't complete garbage
>SM matchmaking
>only cracked eye orbs
>>332530536
No one really invades in DaS2, they completely broke invasions along with every other aspect of the game except duels
>>332530570
>wasn't an improvement to how it was handled in the first game
>The community deciding on a level cap for pvp is just stupid. It sounds like it's gonna be even worse in DaS3.
So deciding what soul memory to stay at was a much better idea? That means having to actually back up saves and restore them once you get out of range
>>332528991
how about....you just dont use it?
>>332530647
Don't know about souls, but bonfires are as frequent as Starbucks in a big city now.
>>332530803
You can still find people easily at 12 million soul memory, which is like 100+ hours of gameplay. You don't have to cap yourself out at any point retard.
>>332530570
Bloodborne did it best. PvPers could just use a password to pair up regardless of level and both players would sync to the hosts level.
>>332530543
No and yes.
No because it forces you to play better and actually feels like a punishment for dying, which Dark Souls kind of lacked.
Yes because the game wasn't balanced around it. Case in point: fall damage is based off your max human health, not max hollow health, so some falls don't kill you when human but do kill when sufficiently hollow.
>>332530820
Fortunately the ring doesn't really exist.
The reason people don't like to handicap themselves is that there is supposed to be a sense of accomplishment from beating one of these games instead of knowing everyone else has cleared it too
>>332530997
>You can still find people easily at 12 million soul memory, which is like 100+ hours of gameplay.
itt lies
>>332530089
they should have made agape ring go in a new special ring slot, soul memory would have been good if they did that
>>332531028
That sounds fantastic actually. Hope they bring that back.
>>332531076
Fall damage in DaS2 felt odd and sometimes retarded.
>>332531250
If they do, I hope it doesn't restrict invaders to just being people with the password. You could safely play Bloodborne by putting in a random password.
>>332531195
It takes like 5 to 10 minutes at most to find someone. Sorry you were soft banned and are grouped with all the shitters.
>>332531283
Seriously. Fall 9 feet and you lose a fraction of your health, fall 10 and you die.
>>332531360
You could still get invaded if you cooped, even with a random password.
>>332530543
It was in Demons Souls and worked perfectly fine. For for some reason, in DaS2 it seemed to be a fail. Why? Oh yeah, because THAT'S not the issue, the bad game design was in enemy placements and hitboxes.
>>332530820
I wont, but it kinda takes away from the accomplishment if people has can assume that you used it, it also makes it unfair in pvp
>>332530182
Guy was probably a lag switcher. Only way to counter that chain bs is to not try and roll away. It's best to not lock on while holding up the shield. Then moving away.
Even better is to just disconnect and not give faggots like that what they want. Ruin their time just like they ruin yours.
>>332530182
>Its ok when it is DS1
>>332530543
I actually liked that. I thought that was fine.
I hated how enemies stopped spawning after 15 deaths.
>Get to Bowser's generic castle level in DaS2
>See those suck ass Alonne Knights
>Want their armor
>Start farming them so I can wear that sweet edgy shit
>They stop spawning and I end up using three bonfire ascetics once I started liking the Captain version
>SM fucked
>Generic lava castle difficulty fucked
I looked stupid and felt stupid.
>>332531838
Covenant of Champions stops that.
>>332531817
"DURR DURR IT DOESNT MATTER DS1 IS MASTERPIECE YOU JUST DONT GET IT"
>>332530803
If you have a high SM and have lost a lot of souls then that means you're a shitter and will be paired up with other shitters. What's the issue?
>>332531283
>>332531421
Fall damage in 2 has many factors, first is health. You can actually survive the first fall in the Majula pit with 22 Vigor.
This brings us to the next thing, weight. Weight affects the fall damage so stripping down is recommended, excluding stuff like Cat Ring, Lion set, Jester Pants or Cat Pants.
Finally is momentum, if you're walking at normal speed to fall the momentum can affect the fall damage, same for sprinting. Best to get close to the edge and slowly walk off.
Additionally for running jumps, you can stop yourself from rolling off when you land by drop attacking.
>>332530697
Are you retarded? It forces you to learn from your mistakes because you have less wiggle room.
>>332531905
Wow great shitpost!
Agape ring when you farm them. Item discovery things to get what you want w/o ascetics. Covenant of champs for enemies not be able to despawn.
But no, we will shitshorm ds2 again and again
>>332531905
The Bonfire Ascetic thing is fine by itself.
But the fact that mobs stop respawning from farming is one of the reasons DaS2 is annoying.
>>332531909
>Covenant of Champions stops that.
Pathetic excuse anon. Don't defend that shit mechanic.
>>332531905
As far as armor collecting, even if they despawn, you can enter the Covenant of Champions and then they respawn indefinitely. After you get the armor, switch back to previous covenant. This works for grinding anything that respawns IIRC. Although, it would harm your SM if you dont use agape ring
>>332530182
PC MASTER RACE WINS AGAIN. I prefer consoles because hackers.
DaS2 apologists are worse than BB "Never Ever" fags
>Muh game is perfect
>No it's not
>B-BUT DARK SOULS 1 IS SHIIIIIIT
>>332532365
>thinks you can't lag switch on consoles
>>332532043
No its not. Stop saying things you dont know. Lost souls doesnt make any sence until you lose really a lot
>>332527709
I thought soul memory was based on souls spent not taken
>>332527709
Currently playing DS1. Is pyromancy considered cheating? I'm only SL31 and I can do over 1200 damage with some of the better pyromancies. Also O+S was a fucking joke.
>>332528506
The ring's name "casual faggot's ring"
>Description
>wearing it makes you suck monster dicks for souls
>the last wearer of this ring was killed by cum overdose
>>332529887
At that point, you pretty much stop doing any sort of coop.
Hell, PVPers stop around 100 for SL
>>332532221
How am I shitposting, you faggot? I'm just retelling my stupid thought process when I tried to look cool.
This was also before any of the DLC came out.
>>332532089
Does fps play into it too? I seem to remember DS1 having a lot of those same mechanics and it wasn't as bad as it was in DS2 where the difference between a scratch and death was very, very small on a consistent basis.
>>332532636
That ring's wearer is /v/ kek
>>332532412
>haha i'll imply that ds2 is bad
Shitty bait anon
>>332532285
>solution to problem
>"no that's dumb"
Anyone still playing on PS3?
I can only find people in Iron Bridge and Drangleic castle, aside from dueling
I'm on SL 141 2.2 SM btw
Also is it true that in NG+ tiers no longer exist? Also is NG+ more crowded?
>>332532605
>I'm only SL31 and I can do over 1200 damage with some of the better pyromancies.
Considering SL has nothing to do with pyromancy damage, I don't get why you mentioned that at all.
>>332532749
How the fuck is it bait. And even if I did imply, do you think that every time someone calls a game bad it's bait? Do you think this is a hugbox?
>>332532758
>defending dark souls 2 many shitty mechanics
God you fags really are insufferable.
Wait a minute, for those who say use Agape:
I thought even if you don't get souls, ita still added to soul memory? From what I heard if you are doing specific pop events it's fine but for pvping throughout the world and/or invading/invaded it hurts you? Fuck im confused.
>>332532725
No I don't believe so.
>>332532979
Nope, Agape Ring prevents all soul gains. Boss, co-op, invasions, PvP, that annoying prick in FotFG shooting arrows at you, etc.
>>332532758
>defending some of the worst game design decisions in the past decade
q u a l i t y / v /
>>332532885
Because that massive retarded 'duuh ds2 is bad' is cancer, just like retards who keep shitting on ds2. This game is not that bad to do it, but cancer is cancer, sadly, and cancer will keep up this meme for a long time
>>332532926
>way to fix problem
>b-b-b-b-ut le BEEETEEEEEM fuck you
you people are worse than meleefags
>>332532746
Kek didn't expect this
>>332529583
>...EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN LITERALLY GIVE YOURSELF 9999999999999999999999999 SOULS WITH CHEAT ENGINE IN 2 MINUTES
>playing on pc
From software games will always be a playstation games anon.
>>332533329
What's funny is that you don't realize how cancerous you guys are. I've seen plenty of genuine criticism and the only answer it ever gets is either "Dark Souls 1 did it too so it's okay even though a sequel should improve the game" or "it's a meme"
>>332533453
The best souls community is on xbox Tbh
>>332533330
Switching covenants isnt a valid solution to a problem that should have never existed in the first place
>>332527709
>Dark Souls 1
>I have a level 18 character that I use to invade people who are early in their playthroughs
>I have end game gear and literally everything I have us reinforced to the max
>I can just stand there and take damage for a while theb one shot them with a light attack
It works both ways
>>332533272
>>332532926
>Give a solution to shitter
>"B-BUT GAME IS BAD!!!!! YOU STUPID!!!"
Ds1 fanbase in a nutshell
>>332531709
>Guy was probably a lag switcher
Nah, that's just what every PVP fight in DaS1 looks like.
>>332533482
That doesn't sound funny at all, fuck you Anom you are a shit comedian, you are the David Blaine.
>>332527709
>>332528058
>>332528506
Just tell me that Soul Memory isn't a thing anymore.
>>332529030
Not understanding green text isn't illiteracy, its just reddit
>>332532868
>Considering SL has nothing to do with pyromancy damage
Thats the point of what i'm asking.
>>332533706
They doubled the rate.
>>332533673
>Reply to a sincere post with memes and shitposting because it's not praising DaS2
Thanks for proving my point
>>332533453
The only thing that makes Souls/Borne games "PlayStation games" is the fact that they're primarily played on PlayStations in the Japanese community. If you have access to a PC capable of playing any DkS, you would be a fucking idiot to play it on console.
>>332528506
Its only true for the press copy of the game. Enemies also do less damage and bosses have less health
>>332533640
But it's fun to smash nabs doing their first playthrough.
Especially in Sen's Fortress :^)
>>332529731
Sure, the fact that souls is now a japanese assassins greed franchise has nothing to do with it.
>>332533637
>solves the problem
>isn't valid
???
If it solves the problem it solves the problem you fucking monkey.
>>332532430
only people on consoles lag switch
>>332533641
>stutterposter
xD LOL ! :P haha Cx
>>332530182
> They brought back instant backstabbing
Bad idea.
>>332533791
I just hide in the top room using the spell and manipulate the boulder
Or try to kill them by activating floor traps. Never attack
>>332527709
>dark souls
>losing souls
If you are dying to the common guys in an area then you aren't prepared for that area
>>332533832
Doesnt solve that DS2 was shit riddled with shit mechanics now does it?
>>332533672
Confirmed for never playing DaS PvP.
>/v/ is casual and doesnt understand that some of the mechanics in ds2 including the shield blocking have valid points as to why they were implemented and aren't actually "shit"
>>332534002
>moving the goalposts
Swallow a razor.
>>332533640
Being completely fucked on by SL1 Darkwraiths is just another rite of passage that literally every single person goes through on DkS1. There was a pretty big population of people who pursued SL1 fuckass builds simply because of this, but that doesn't mean the whole community needs to be fucked over with soul memory. People who were legitimately SL150 were completely fucked because they would get matched against people with SL300+ SM pre-"we fucked up" ring.
>>332533890
nigga that's DaS 1
CAN I MAKE A CUTE GIRL IN DAS3, THIS IS ALL I CARE ABOUT
Farming an item in DaS1
Go to the farm place
(Equip Gold ring - Optional)
(Get 10 Humanity - Optional)
Go back to bonfire and repeat
Farming an item in DaS2
Leave your covenant and switch to covenant of champions (slight increase in difficulty)
Equip a ring to prevent soul gain
(Equip ring or equipment to increase drop rate - optional)
(Use a bonfire ascetic if not in the covenant of champions - optional - will push that area 1 NG forward)
>>332533482
What's funny is that ds1 cancerous fanbase cant give any valid arguments, you only keep saying something 'haha you guys suck, game is bad', even when facing the fact that ds2 is actually not a bad game, so everyone got tired of this shit because, you know, wasting time on retarded people who blindly hate this game is bad idea, and you muse be really bored to do this.
SO the ring these faggots are talking about are not in the game or what?
>>332534132
There are rings in ds2 that literally stop you from getting souls
>>332534185
If you're willing to compromise on your definitions of "cute" and "girl", sure.
>>332534051
Its a shitty solution for a shitty problem. Sorry your mom didnt abort you early on.
>>332533743
Well, it's not really considered overpowered or cheating as such, because backstab-baiting has become such a big part of PvP in DaS1(and if you try to cast something with a longer than 0.5 sec cast, you will be backstabbed).
If you are low SL with high pyro glove and invade people they will usually have a bad time though, since they most likely are nabs on their first playthrough.
>Guy lifts his giant sword to do a heavy overhead swing
>I roll out of the way
>He swivels perfectly mid swing to follow me
Cool
>>332529048
You new cucks forget that the souls vets who bought the game on release had to endure with a piece of shit game for more than a year before they released SotFS
>>332534185
I made a great looking Shanoa from castlevania
>>332534364
SLIDERS PLS
>>332534132
I never really understood the butthurt over this.
Like, if you're the kind of player who will do an SL1 run to go and become an SL1 Dickwraith, then you should be rewarded for doing so. Who does it hurt, exactly? New players in Undead Parish? Thats only IF they get invaded in the first place, and if they don't get to the boss first AND IF they're even fucking human.
So fucking hyped to finally make a bow build. Couldn't do it in 2 thanks to SM.
>Dark Souls 2
>Lose any amount of souls
>Bricked character gg reroll
>>332530182
>first stab
Poise tanks through it, should have seen it coming considering he's fighting a chainmail mask faggot.
>second stab
Tried rolling away on wake up, bad idea if they are just standing there waiting for it
>third stab
He would have been safe if he had completely stood still; you are literally immune to backstabs for a second or two on wakeup as long as you don't input anything - if you input anything you lose that invulnerability. You can see it when he raises his shield and moves at him.
>fourth stab
Same thing as the second.
Guy was at a serious disadvantage even if the other guy hadn't resorted to backstab fishing considering he's using just a longsword which doesn't hit hard enough or have good enough tracking for fending off poisestabbers. Ironically backstab fishing was about his only real counter strategy.
tl;dr bad build and bad choices, more news at 11.
>>332534682
>let me explain why this game isn't shit
It's shit.
>>332527709
I dont understand why everybody got superfucked by soul memory. I literally never had a problem with it and unless you're some kind of casual who needs help with every boss why would you fucking care? Pvp hardly matters till high end anyway so its not like a huge difference was made there. Its rarely hard to retrieve your souls anyways and if you really did learn your lesson you should be able to retrieve your souls easily. The souls fans who hate soul memory in 2 always made me just wonder if everybody who played the game was just utter shit but enjoyed thinking they were good at some "super hard" game. Also soul memory maes sense now that i think about it. Not only does it show how shit at the game you are but if you are shit and need help you are able to summon stronger players to help.
>>332534253
>cant give any valid arguments
Bosses don't have enough variety, and some of them are extremely easy
Soul Memory requires a ring that had to be patched in just to be
Fall damage is too high and inconsistent
Some areas don't make sense, like Iron Keep or Shrine of Winter.
Some covenants are endgame
Miracles are useless
Story required DLC, patches and a rerelease to be relevant.
Bad enemy placement in some areas, there are enemies that aggro from a ridiculous range
Poise is useless outside of certain weapon classes
Armor does jackshit
Bad design choices
I'm sure that you'll call all these memes or call me a DaS1 fanboy though
>>332532221
>But no, we will shitshorm ds2 again and again
It will stop when DS2 stops being a terrible game
>>332534773
I'm sorry you got chainstabbed to death anon, min/max flippy fags are the worst but you just gotta keep your chin up.
>>332534793
>Miracles are useless
They weren't at first.
>>332534937
>game has shitty hit boxes
>shitty model responses
>immunities to moves that only apply if you don't touch the controller
>no way of escape once you are in a combo
Yes the game is shit.
>>332527709
I fucking hate dks2
2 and 3 are are cash grabbing B side games, it doesn't have the same unique design, community and overall feeling...
>bloodborn n demon souls were great tho
It should be Demon souls, dark souls, bloodborne in that order fuck 2 n 3, it's an unnecessary expansion of the series with shitty design and it's commercialized to death at the expanse of the community.
>>332534793
This and
>>332534806
Contradict each other. The first says the patches and expansions and rerelease fixed many issues and the second says it will keep happening till its fixed. If its fixed why are people still butching?
>playing dark souls 1 today, fresh new game
>haven't played in a couple years
>having fun
>get to sens fortress
>all fun is immediately over
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>332528506
What's the ring? I don't believe you.
>losing souls
>ever
>sm is bad because I am too
You faggots ruined the series
>>332534782
When I played DaS2 for the first time there was no Agape ring.
Since it was my first time playing the game I wanted to experience a bit of everything, co-op, invasions, solo, etc.
By the time I reached the end of the game and wanted to focus on pvp my soul memory was so fucked I had to make a new character to invade. And even after that I got so many souls by killing invaders that even that character got fucked up in SM limbo
>>332535059
Shield=best friend
>>332534782
Because it forces players to try to not die. Which means that instead of exploring and learning on your own, as you're supposed to do, players are encouraged to look up guides and only play cautious/tanky builds instead of fun high risk/reward characters.
>>332535047
If you actually read the first post you'd notice that the most glaring flaws aren't fixed. In fact, some patches made things worse, like >>332535005 points out
>>332535092
This is what im saying. I dont understand why a game known for being hard should be casual friendly.
What is soul memory? I've played all the DS games and haven't noticed a difference in how souls are handled.
>>332535059
Sens is one of the easiest zones once you've been through it at least once. What part are you having trouble with?
>>332535005
Miracles are fine now, the only things that suck are lightning spears.
>>332535012
>no way to escape chainstabbing
I mean I knew you were just shitposting from the start but this is a bit much, can I pay you in blini images to take a break?
>>332528403
Just type 5mil fargert
>>332535195
Some convoluted mechanic that determines who you can play online with.
>>332535097
So you entered a hard game to "fuck around" and then dont understand why you couldn't compete in end game pvp? Are you fucking stupid or do you realize where you were the problem not the game?
>>332535170
>it forces players to be careful
Yea thats the fucking point. Your post is the definition of casual
>i shouldnt be punished for playing like a fucking idiot.
>>332535216
its not that its difficult per se, it's just a really tedious level
>>332534278
>pre-"we fucked up" ring
Ahh, yes. I love that unless you wish to keep your soul memory increasing you must sacrifice a ring slot. Fantastic design. Absolutely worth it. 10/10 FromSoft! Will buy a third edition of Dark Souls II for $60 again.
>>332534429
On my SL1 Darkwraith I've completed all content on a NG+ save. When I would invade people at the Undead Burg/Parish I would regularly invade SL120-SL150 and promptly get my shit pushed in. It's not constant I SHIT ON NEW CHARACTERS ALL DAY, BWOII!!
>>332535367
oh, that sounds like a stupid thing to argue about
>>332535171
Most of the first post is more projection than actual issues. Honestly people who had trouble with DaS2 are just casuals who hopped on for the ride after hearing DaS1 memes then bitched when it was punishing.
>>332530182
And this game is what people cite when they sneer at the Witcher combat?
My.
Fucking.
Sides.
>>332529459
>segregating the entire playerbase on accumulation of souls, which can never be stopped unless you waste a fucking ring slot is a good thing
It was a horrid design choice. Segregation by level is way better. People can still twink in DS2, and SM did nothing to stop it.
>>332535553
Kek, the Witcher has shit combat regardless of whether you use Dark Souls as a reference.
>>332535453
Dude, I think you need to find something else in your life.
>>332535395
I get ya anon. Even though I personally like Sens, I dislike doing anal rodeo despite it receiving a lot of praise.
>>332535535
>Most of the first post is more projection than actual issues
Please tell me how.
>Here's why I don't like 2
>lol you're just bad
>>332535392
Dark Souls 2 is not a hard game.
I could "fuck around" in Dark Souls 1 no problem and I only had to make a new character if I wanted to create a different build, not invade.
And if you are going to call someone stupid at least use proper sentence structure
>or do you realize where you were the problem not the game?
>>332534793
3 booty demons are fine then?
SM does not requires a ring, it is needed when you start to fuck up.
Fall damage is realistic and depends on weight you carry, and if you thing its high go and just from same height.
Wow, game have unimportant endgame content!
Miracles are top-tier shit in pvp and heals and buffs are superiour, sorry that you cant spam lightning spears for 500 dmg like a zeus.
Its not.
Poise is mistake and not fair in pvp, in pve its still fine.
Ok may be design is not as good as in ds1, but its not THAT bad.
>>332535059
>not learning the way of the speedrunner
>not running through sen's and completing it in less than 5 minutes
>that thrill when running through the blades and your pace is synched with them
I never played the Souls series but bought the games when they were on sale. Just haven't gotten around to them with my backlog.
Are they really that good or is /v/ just circle jerking them like they do everything else?
>>332535671
Me too. I am very much looking forward to DkS3.
>>332534682
I think my favorite reaction about 3 is old PvP people being angry about backstabs.
FromSoft basically fixed backstabbing by ensuring that while you can do it, it's borderline impossible unless the person made such a stupid decision that you can get in perfect position and initiate the move before they can walk away from it.
A lot of older PvP fags have been really, really ass mad about it, since PvP in Souls games have almost always revolved around backstabbing, trying to backstab, preventing backstabs, baiting people into trying to backstab, and more importantly, never, ever attacking someone unless it either leads to a backstab or is, in fact, a backstab.
"This game is made for fucking casuals. They've ruined the series," is something I legitimately heard some stupid faggot say in a test stream. I fucking love how enraged these useless piles of human waste are.
Funny how the most common complaint about DS2 aside "mhu world" is "I'm bad at the game" lmao
>>332534020
I put about 100 hours into Kiln PVP on PS3. It's more of an exercise in lag exploitation than a duel. Souls PVP is awful, it's always been awful, it always will be awful.
>>332535059
Sens is, no joke, my favorite area in DaS1. I breeze through it now but holy shit that place was nuts going in blind.
>>332535059
Sen's Fortress? I'm not familiar with the location.
Do you mean "Run: The Castle"? Oh. That's easy. Just don't stop running.
>this other game is shit because I cant do exactly the same things and get the same exact response as in this one game I played which was the first non-nintendo game I played in my life
>>332535662
Dark Souls has shit combat as well is what I was implying but ok whatever rocks your boat kekman.
>>332531531
Demons was a non factor since almost no one played in human form anyway because dying even once destroyed your world tendency.
Losing health has never been a particularly good system, especially when combined with needing to be 'human' to PvP, even as a host, and needing to farm humanity to keep PvPing as a result.
I'm glad 3 got rid of that, for the most part.
>>332535790
They're good but flawed.
DS2 is so bad they had to re-release it with "fixes".
>>332528506
You lying nigger.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/rings
>>332535723
>muh DaS1
I never mentioned DaS1. I told you like five fucking times that you were going to do this, then you go and do it. Jesus fuck you people are retarded beyond hope
>Mechanic that punishes the player for trying new things
>Good
>Covenants
>Unimportant
>Miracles are top-tier shit in pvp
They aren't, good luck healing when you can get interrupted by a dagger thanks to non-existant poise.
You still didn't address the nonsensical areas, useless armor or bad enemy placement. This is exactly why nobody likes apologists, you can't accept genuine criticism.
>>332536017
>le contrarian 2cool4u imma troll u senpai
Why are you even in this thread?
>>332535603
If you want to twink in ds2 you have to do really hard shit or use CE, when in ds1 you cant just 'haha lel i wont lvl up' and then oneshot with pyro
>>332530371
Triggered
>>332534289
>removing the problem completely is a shitty solution
Sorry you have no argument.
>>332536061
DS2 isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be, it has problems but it's still a good game
>>332536061
>fixes
They sure did fix a lot of what was wrong with DkS2!
>more enemies in every location just for the new PREPARE TO DIE EDITION
>branches of yore everywhere
>new armor set is the only new content in SotFS
q u a l i t y g a m e
>>332536178
Not really, you just had to constantly back your save up. You can twink super easy in 2 and SotFS.
>>332536169
Well I can lurk and post in any thread I want I think.
What a dumbass.
>>332534364
>>332534406
Seconded OoE is fucking GOAT
>>332536369
Just cause you can doesn't mean you should. You don't need to inject your shitty opinions in every thread.
Kill yourself.
>>332536306
>new armor set is the only new content in SotFS
?
>>332536760
The DLC areas were in the original DS2, asshat
>>332536639
I'm not injecting my opinions in every thread. I'm injecting my opinions in this thread. Why are you this dumb?
>>332536109
There is only one late game covenant, and its shitty pvp only covenant that give you weak shit.
Nobody said that miracles are only heals you idiot, who the fuck heals in pvp? There is 3 buffs which are superior in pvp, and a very good weapon buff.
Enemy placement is ok and kinda fixed in sotfs, also there is nothing like RIDICULOUS. Areas make sense in 95% of times, that's not that critical. And dont forget that im not saying that this game is perfect, because ots obviosly not, but its not as bad as most people say.
>>332536910
OK then don't inject your opinion into this thread.
Still kill yourself though.
>>332536898
>He didn't fight Aldia
>>332537040
Why does DS2 look like shit? It looks like someone turned the gamma all the way up to max.
>>332533453
FUCK YOU
>>332535059
>He doesn't like Sen's Funhouse
>>332537060
You're not the boss of me. Also, there is not reason to kill myself just because the Souls games have the shittiest combat I've ever encountered. They may get it right with DS3, so there's hope yet.
>>332536274
Shitty generic design, bullshit mechanics, dumb soul system, unmemorable characters, places and bosses. Fuck it's just unmemorable in it self.
An entire Dark magic character ark, 2 separate stats/ vigor and adaptability (as if the old stats system wasn't simpler and just makes more sense).
*Did i mention generic boring bland design, bullshit try hard arena for gank Strength builds, miracle users and dark magic.
unnecessary and again boring covenants, useless rings, boring and starting area, weird ass old ladies retarded talking cat, it's like another game company tried to just copy the 1st game, it just doesn't work.
>>332537040
>There is only one late game covenant
Pilgrims of dark exists you know
>There is 3 buffs which are superior in pvp, and a very good weapon buff
So 4 spells out of 28, gotcha
>Enemy placement is ok and kinda fixed in sotfs
>I never got to the Iron Keep
>there is nothing like RIDICULOUS
>Iron castle sunk in lava atop a windmill
>Detour where you need to kill 4 great old ones because there's some ruins on the other path
>>332537390
>that image
im still upset.
>>332537112
Aldia is in the base game too
>>332528013
There's already two camps for it.
There's those that hate it because it isn't different enough like Bloodborne
And those who love it because it's Dark Souls 2.0
So you either hate that it didn't change enough, or you love that it's basically the same as the original just with a shiny new coat of paint.
DaS2 was a good game.
DeS > DaS2 > DaS
>>332537693
it basically sums it all up
>>332527709
>Dark Souls 2
>I can't invade new players on my min max character
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>332537390
I prefer the bottom design over the edgy one actually.
>>332537390
>>332537693
>>332537771
>>332537821
not sure if i remember it correctly but wasnt there some sort of copyright shit that prevented them adding those masks into the game?
>>332537365
I liked it the first time i did it, this is my 3rd or 4th playthrough of this game, and it's just gotten tired, i just find it so tedious now.
I do admit though, doing it the first time it was a great way to break up the monotony.
>>332537778
That's part of it but most of it was just that if you stuck with people around your level eventually you would just get so many souls from it youd level out of range of anyone at that level even if you never spend them on leveling up.
>>332537718
nope
