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Pic comes out tomorrow, how bad do you think it will be?
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>>332517695

Pic? Like picture?
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>>332517695
What are they adding anyway? New classes?
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>>332517695
Maybe. Still need to rush a character to the end of BG1 again.
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>>332517695
>how bad do you think it will be?

7/10 probably. I hope it doesn't have too much agenda.
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>>332517695
looks like shit desu
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>>332518589
?¿
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>>332518589
yup, shaman
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>>332517695

very bad, based on their writers and company history

I enjoy a lot of bugs in my rpg, especially ones on a decade old engine

also shit gameplay, simplistic gambling system AI (if unscripted battle), and broken core system

even if you pay me money, i don't want to play this pos
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>>332517695
I'd love more Baldur's Gate if it could match the old material, but the people that made BG good have long since passed
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>>332518962
Nigga they have Avellone and Gaider as writers now, it's gonna be great.
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>>332518962
>even if you pay me money, i don't want to play this pos

what a badass you are.
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>>332519128
>Gaider
The man that worked hard to make a mod, for free, because he thought the fans deserved better is long dead.
We all need to accept that.
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>>332519292

It's the hair. Once he got those implants, it turned him.
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>>332517695
Looks okay
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>>332519280
>what a badass you are
What a badass you are
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really don't care about this. never siad that about anything but I don't think adding new shit to a game like this will further enhance it. they should focus on BG3 instead.
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>>332522224
>implying that they have actual competent coders in the team to do so

>implying it won't be worse and more bland than NWN2 vanilla
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>>332518923
How op will it be?
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>>332522932
>>implying that they have actual competent coders in the team to do so
They have the literal lead programmer from old BioWare and sole creator of Infinity Engine on the team anon.
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>>332517695
I don't think it will be outright bad.

But it will be utterly unremarkable, will feel totally pointless, and will have some small things that will royally piss a part of the fanbase off.
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>>332521504
>>what a badass you are
>What a badass you are
What a badass you are.
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>>332519128
Avellone didn't do shit, he was paid to read the crap they sent him and then say a few nice words about it. But he didn't write a single line for the game.

And Gaider was just recently hired, he isn't even on the SoD team.
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>>332524091
Brent Knowles is though and he was the creative director and lead writer of BG2.
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>>332523845

and that totally explain all the bugs that can easily be fixed on both of the EE that I bought from them

ask that lead programmer to eat lead since he can't code for shit
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>>332524243
You do realize EE releases were rushed due to Atari right? They broke off from Atari only a year ago or so when Atari finally kicked the bucket for good and the EEs have long since been patched and are literally objectively superior to originals in terms of code. And they have been for like a year now.
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>>332524243
What fucking bugs you coke snorting fuckface?
The EEs dont require any bugfix mods whereas the originals still require the BG1, BG2 and IWD Fixpacks respectively.
All those bugs and much more were fixed with the EEs.
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>David Warner is back as Irenicus
>all original VAs except Viconia's are back
>Knowles doing the writing
>Sam Hulick doing the music
I'm sure it won't be groundbreaking but it should definitely be enjoyable.
Also fun fact, Viconia's acctress apparently disappeared off the face of the earth. They wanted to contact her and she hasn't been seen for years, has no registered home adress and quite literally disappeared.
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>>332524185
So he is the one I should blame for the godawful post-Spellhold section of BG2, and Irenicus' motivation being "muh tree, muh elf waifu"? I always wanted to know who's to blame. Until now I mostly just hated Ohlen and Kristjanson, so mea culpa to them for the misplaced blame.
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>>332524631
>quite literally disappeared
Chill out mate. She's in my basement.
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>>332518962

this desu senpai

Ignoring all the bugs and god awful launch the EE had, the writing in their additional content was jarringly terrible. I hope SoD isn't shit but I don't know how anyone can be hyped for this.
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>That graphix destruction

good job
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>>332524638
Don't forget Sarevok doing 180 on his personality
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>>332524935
The black outlines are optional feature for tablets you can turn off/on, don't be retarded anon.
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>>332525048
you're the same anon, aren't you
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>>332524937
Well, I mainly just pretend ToB doesn't exist, as it would be too long to list all the things I hate about it. But holy fuck, Sarevok's personality and background being retconned to oblivion definitely didn't help. And my god, Melissan. I still cringe every time I remember her.
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>>332525217
Explain
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>>332525048
Yeah and I assume you can turn off the new UI as well?
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>>332525242
ToB was entirely Gaydar :^)
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>>332525348
You can with mods
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>>332525353
Really?

Guess that explains a few things
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>>332525432
That looks pretty nice aside from the blur. What mod?
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>>332525432
>Abdel
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>332525652
>That looks pretty nice aside from the blur.
Thats cause I was zooming in.

>What mod?
http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/37690/mod-bgee%E7%9C%9F%E9%8D%AEgui/p1

>>332525713
Chill I was testing the UI mod, that ain't my char
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>>332525713
It's alright anon, just a coincidence, doesn't mean anything. Shhh, it's okay.
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>>332525713
Abdel isn't only from the books. It's also the character name of the pre-made character in Tales of the Sword Coast.
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>>332525804
Shit, son. I'm in love. I always hated EE's UI for the plastic look, annoying color scheme, and generally cramped way of displaying stats, but at the same time I assumed it was just the purist in me overreacting. Apparently I was mistaken, because this thing is beautiful. I like it much more than any vanilla or EE BG's UI.
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>>332517695
i'm expecting a good game by modern standards but comparing to the originals, mediocre at best.
sure as shit won't be buying it, at least not before it goes on sale.
this is just a cashgrab from other people's success
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out of curiosity, where will it be sold? steam?
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>>332526931
Steam, GOG, Google Play, and App Store, most likely.
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>>332526695
>have core most important BG2 devs on team, the same people who were responsible for all the main decisions
>other people's success
lel lad
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>>332524631
Viconia is voiced by Grey Griffin (DeLisle), she's one of the most prolific voice actors right now. You might be thinking of Jaheira.
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>>332528415
Shit you're right, I always confuse the two.
Fucking elves.
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>>332524631
She took RPing a druid pretty seriously.
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So who's ready for based David Warner tomorrow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhL8iKN3rVA
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>>332528415
>no Jaheira
Not worth buying then desu
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>>332529140
Jaheira is in the game, just with a sound-like instead of original VA. And it's not like you can blame the devs for this seeing as she FUCKING DISAPPEARED
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>Jaheira's VA is gone
>nah that's bullshit
>check Beamdog forums
>check http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0788289/
>she literally disappeared
>mfw
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They also pulled Diane Pershing (Safana) out of retirement to voice her again lel.
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>>332517695
Well, it's a game that emulates Baldur's Gate, which is itself a horrendously flawed game, but it's not likely to have much of the good bits that made BG tolerable.

So it'll be stinky shit. As opposed polished shit, like the originals were.
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>>332529648
They're emulating BG2 with this expansion actually.
As in, BG2-style NPCs and so on.
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So did Jaheira get kidnapped by the same person who kidnapped American McGee's sister?
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H-h-have you s-s-seen my w-w-wife anon?
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>>332529719
He's saying both games are shit like the contrarian he is.
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>>332529897
Yeah she was in my bedroom last time I saw her ;)
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>>332529981
I know but I ignored the opininated shitposting part of his post and pointed our the error in his facts.
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stay beautiful, in spite of yourself
; ^)
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Post your portraits
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Your daily reminder to report all the shill threads tomorrow and during the next month or so.

And then after that don't forget to report them when they get desperate and do the 'but v told me it was bad' and 'this game is actually pretty good' threads two or so months later
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>>332530367
Ebin contrarian faggotry anon.
Perhaps you should go back to cripplecuck's chan.
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>>332530367
Have fun getting banned for abusing reports
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>>332529496
I'm impressed, given that most of the non BG2 party members in BG1 were literally whos to most people.
Especially given that Imoen was objectively better than Safana
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>>332530278
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>>332530489
Literally everyone except Jaheira are back.
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Best BG2 companion coming through.

>>332530581
Ow the egde. Do you use Niggerguard kit with him? ;')
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>>332530367
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>>332530727
No, I used the Arthas Voicescheme and played a paladin.
There simply aren't any cutscenes of Arthas that aren't of him about to dickstab Terenas.
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>>332530421
you should most definetly leave this board and go back to wherever it is you came from
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>>332530862
Why don't you just use the WC3 cover picture of nice Arthas then?
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>>332530862
You're welcome
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>>332531267
I feel like such a colossal Retard right now.
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>>332530278
>>332530581
>male portraits
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>>332525830
>Abdel
>The Books
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>>332531602
>Abdel and Bodhi then proceeded to have sex[citation needed].

Never fails to make me laugh.
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>>332531662
>Turning Khalid into an abusive wife beater and Jaheira into a complete and utter dumbass
It's almost poetic in how bad it is.
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>>332531773
What?
I never read those shitty books but that sounds even more retarded considering Khalid is a stuttering spaghetti /v/ermin and Jaheira is a sassy dominatrix cougar in the games.
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>>332532010

Minsc has long red hair and stays behind to work at an inn.
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>>332531773
Wasn't Imoen a lesbian in those too?
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>>332532215

Yeah, I think she got it on with Phaere or something.
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>>332532213
>Minsc has long red hair
That's actually lore correct.
The ingame Minsc is lore breaking.

Thay slaves aren't allowed to cut their hair, which is why everyone who isn't a slave is either bald or has only really short hair. In Rashemen, Thay's arch enemy, the people wear their hair long (usually braided) in protest to their slaver neighbors. They'd also never tattoo their scalps, for the same reason.

Case and point, both Minsc and Edwin break the lore big time.
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>>332531773

>Khalid
>an abusive wife beater

One of these years I need to speed read that trainwreck.
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Reminder BG games and NWN2 will never be canon according to Wizards of the Coast, only NWN1 is.
BG canon is in form of the shitty novels which barely have anything to do with the games.
NWN2 is flat out not canon and never happened.
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>>332532549

I'm completely fine with that.
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>>332531773
>>332531662
>Imoen is a lesbian and fucks Phaere
>Minsk is Carrot-Top
>MC(Abdel) is a massive dickbag retard
>Xan shows up and gets killed by spiders a chapter later
>Montaron and Xzar are still a best but get killed off by Sarevok early in
>Bodhi is the owner of the Copper Coronet and a whore
>Saemon Havarian is some old crazy drunk dude with a rowboat
>Jaheira gets murderrapevored by Abazigal
>Imoen gets killed by Balthazar
>Sarevok just walks off to nowhere because the writer has no idea what do do with him
The books were such a trainwreck, jesus christ. The D&D novels always were a bit Hit&Miss when it comes to quality but the Baldurs Gate novels were the absolute worst fantasy literature I have ever read. Not even Eragon was this terrible.
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>>332532932
>Imoen is a lesbian and fucks Phaere
nothing wrong with that desu
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>>332532391
>Minsc
>Thay Slave

But he never was. He always was a berserker from Rashemen (which is basically medieval slavs and antique northmen thrown together with a touch of celts)
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Is this a standalone game or an expansion to BG1?
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>>332533253
>reading comprehension
>POWER GAP
>you
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>>332533340
ToB style expansion to BG1, but supposedly considerably longer than ToB
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>>332532697
Thats because you are a dumb-ass. They had some better lorebuilding in those games than WOTSC/Hasbro had in years and in fact touched upon subjects that WOTSC/Hasbro forgot about.

>mfw Hasbro reduced the wall of the faithless to a fedorafilter when it actually served a purpose in AD&D
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>>332529409
Apparently happens sometimes. I remember reading about when they were doing the Evangelion movies, they looked and looked for the original actress who played Maya, but she'd dropped off the face of the planet.
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>>332532549
Who cares?
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>>332533562
>using a pic of Caracalla subtitled with "disdain for plebs" when he was responsible for many reforms that improved the life of ordinary citizens and granted citizenship to all freemen
No anon, thou art pleb.
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>>332529054
>You know nothing of me, you know nothing about what i must do

Are there unused irenicus dialogue voiced by Warner? Where can i find more?
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>>332534348
>Not recognizing Pic and text
>Being this new
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>>332534662
>Rome 2
>old
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>>332534501
Install BG2 Unfinished Business and Altmateria Restoration.
Both restore cut content similarly to KotOR2's TSLRCM.

>>332534662
I do recognize it and I cringe everytime an uneducated imbecile like you posts it because you retards know nothing about history and perpetuate shitty "memes" like the underage scum that you are.
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Will siege of dragonspear ruin compatibility with mods that were compatible with ee before? I'm very afraid.
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>>332535126
It definitely will break compatibility with some of the mods, but modders will naturally update as they always do.
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>>332534830
Next you'll tell us Descartes has nothing to do with dicks. Did they put something up your ass?
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>>332535272
I hate every single one of you little shits from the "LE EBIN MAYMAY xDDD" generation. Eat shit and die please.
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>>332534830
>n-n-no I r-r-recognize it u r just retarded!

ok
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>>332535408
Oh great, you're also an unedacted amerifat voting for a literal populist with no programme that deflects all criticism with witty insults, ad hominem and general smartassery.
Truly the meme candidate for the meme generation.
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>>332535356
I'm sorry, I dont have any fedorapics that would be fedora enough for true fedoralord like you.

Your anal anguish is music to me, tho.
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>>332535591
End yourself. The fact I share this planet with trash like you is most disturbing to me.
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>>332532932
I was addicted to the Drizzt books for a bit, but they turned into Young Adult novels with fucking will they/wont they shit..

Read about Elminster to, since he's pretty much the biggest badass in Forgotten Realms. He literally gets (mind) raped by the devil. Was a pretty good read.

And i have read one of the Baldurs Gate books, because i enjoyed the gaems. Was the ToB book. Dont remember much other than that Balthazar was a fucking beast and they wouldnt stop mentioning how much of a big guy Abdel was.
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>>332535581
>A highly educated individual like me only votes for Bernie Sanders

Oh my lord you are perfect
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>>332535762
And now you resort to projecting, further proving my point.
Protip, I ain't even amerifat trash like you and I despise communists.
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>>332535719
Aribeth gets literally raped by the Devil. That's more than being mind raped.
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>>332535672
You are so precious I literally cant stop laughing.
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>>332535672
>is most disturbing to me
Well, you see acquaintance, the fractal discombobulator that was once thine rectum doth imploded on thineself.

How ever shall we fix this peculiar problem?

You'll literally be talking like that in a few years you fucking loser.
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>>332536050
Ah yes, more projecting and ad hominem just because someone dared to educate you on the internet.
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>>332535847
No, anon, its projection, not projecting. But of course a gentlemen and scholar such as yourself knows this.

Also
>Pulling the YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT line
I am in love
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>>332536180
Too bad for you I ain't a degenerate homosexual so stick that love up your dad's rectum.
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>>332536164
>He didnt even notice that he is talking to different people

Womp womp woooomp
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>>332535945
Aribeth?
Is that the Paladin of Tyr turned traitorous whore in Neverwinter nights?
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>>332536429
Here you go, an ebin meme for ebin memester rare pepe collector such as yourself.
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>>332536535
Correct.
You can romance and redeem her spirit in HotU.
She then lives with you until you die and then your spirits live happily everafter in the afterlife.
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>pic comes out tomorrow
>already posted on /v/
>hackers leaked content again
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>>332536535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3VRFCxQXow
Yep
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>>332536779
Where? Link?
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>>332536792
>that fucking soundrack
Probably the best bioware has ever produced
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Is this an expansion for BG1 or a unique game on its engine or what?
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>CHARNAME went around the Sword Coast stopping Sarevok
>Then he got into a war with some kind of god-princess woman or something
>The first is referenced constantly in BG2
>The second is never brought up ever, including by people who were presumably with him at the time like Minsc and Imoen
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>>332536932
>BioWare
You mean Jeremy Soule
And nah, his Morrowind, Icewind Dale and KotOR soundtracks are better.
Too bad he's a really shitty person and a literal jew that said pirating music is the second holocaust and worse than Hitler. That's what he actually said.

>>332536954
BG1EE expansion.
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>>332537045
BG2 does keep talking about mysterious circumstances that forced you to leave Baldur's Gate.
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>>332530278
Dual class thief/fighter.
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>>332537121
That's a NWN-style portait. At least get one that fits BG1/2 :^)
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>>332537318
Sorry in the EE versions it auto scales the image down but I can fuck with it in ms paint to make it right if it doesn't look good.
Dual classing is so fun, there is no need for Imoen since I dual classed thief and fighter.
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>>332537513
I wasn't talking about size, I was talking about the art style.
Yours has similar art style to NWN portraits but now that I think about it it's much closer to PoE portraits.
BG portraits have this faux-3D smoothed 2D look.
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>read the Time of Troubles novels
>Bhaal's avatar was a scrawny bald human, think Voldo minus bondage gear
>he fucks dragons, orcs, ogres, giants and countless other more mundane humanoids

Well if anything Bhaal sure got game.
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>>332536792
>>332536681
I've only finished that game once, a long long time ago.
I've tried replaying it a million times, but i always regret my character choice during chapter 1 and start a new one. My save folder is filled with lvl 3 characters of every kind.
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>>332538152
NWN1 Chapter 1 ends much later than Level 3, you are full of shit anon.
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>>332538308
>but i always regret my character choice during chapter 1

I escape the school, get the quest. Go to one of the city maps, regret my character choice and bail.
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>>332538783
That's Prologue, not Chapter 1.
Well, you finish Prologue and give up at the very start of Chapter 1.
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>mfw installing Imoen Romance mod and there's nothing you can do to stop mfw
>mfw they finally finished the ToB component
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>>332538783
You don't miss much
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>>332539084
Dude, i've played the prologue enough to know where it ends.
Say i wanted to play a thief. Get out of the school, get the stone. Go find a chest somewhere. Fail to pick the lock and think "If i was a fighter, i could just bash this shit. Lockpicking is gay anyway". Make a fighter. Stand for 5 minutes missing the fucking chest, and when i hit the damage output is so pathetic it absorbes most of it anyway, and critical hits do 2 damage. No way jose', Go make a mage since they are the most powerful class later in the game anyway. Get bored of not having 9th level shapechange spell and turn into a dragon yet, so go go back to warrior with exotic weapons. Regret picking whips, restart again... And on and on it goes.

But i've met Aribeth enough times to remember who she is though.
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>>332539808
You are fucking retarded for expecting to be able to do everything at this low level in a D&D game.
You've also got massive ADHD and should seek professional psychiatric help.
Seriously learn to fucking accept your decisions you indecisive fuck.
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>>332539946
I just made you as a character. Pretty sure this retard wont even make it through the Prologue.
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>>332517695
>paladins and rangers can only level ONCE through the entire expansion
top lel
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>>332541265
At least most other classes can get 2/3 levels.
But what did you expect? That was pretty much expect if they didn't want to rape the balance when importing to BG2.
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>>332541265
Only reason to play ranger or paladin is role playing though, so power leveling isnt that important.
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>>332541691
It will still make for a pretty boring play ala PoE and its no xp trash mobs
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>>332542007
>pic
Source?
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>>332542007
You do get exp for mobs in here though.
Also leveling up in 2E has never been an interesting thing because you have very little customization unless you're a Sorcerer or Druid.
If this was 3E then I'd definitely be upset about it since there leveling up is a much more "fun" thing than it is in 2E.
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>>332542286
I am guessing the xp will stop having any meaning once you hit the cap though.
If they make it like in BG1 where it still keeps track of the xp so you can actually start BG2 at whatever you had above 161k it wouldn't make a sense to have a cap in the first place.
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>>332542806
>I am guessing the xp will stop having any meaning once you hit the cap though.
Most definitely.
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>>332542007
I donąt mind since EXP cap is removable with mods. Also exping is the least interesting thing for me as i play for the story and then action.
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>>332542286
That's why I like 2E. It's not about XP grinding and feat minmaxing full of trap builds.
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>>332517695
>Pic comes out tomorrow, how bad do you think it will be?
How did you post it today, then?

It's not bad, but I don't care for modern fantasy art, I've always felt that the 70's/80's did it the best. But that's just my biased opinion.
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>>332535719
I've read the first something like 6 Drizzt novels back in the day when they were first released, and absolutely loved them. However back then my English reading comprehension was still sort of on a half-understand/half-guesswork level, so when I picked up the first Dark Elf book a few months ago I was horrified to realize just how badly written it was.

On the other hand it made me want to try another DnD book, so I gave War of the Spider Queen a try. Loved the first one, they pulled of the whole "cast of backstabbing cunts" thing surprisingly well. Menzoberranzan in that book felt like a place that actually just might work, which is an amazing achievement on the author's part.

Too bad the rest of the series was complete dogshit, with the fourth book being one of the worst fantasy books I've ever had the misfortune of reading. But at least the fifth and sixth books somewhat redeem it with the Archmage versus Lichdrow duel, that takes up like one third of those books.
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So, what's the word on the new class?
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>>332544359
Underwhelming
Summons are shit since skeleton warriors are better, last forever, 90% MR and you don't have a random chance of receiving them while remaining stuck to the ground
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>>332539427
Where'd you get it from
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>>332544978
Aren't skeleton warriors only summoned when you're level 15+?
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>>332525804
>Only for BG1EE
Aw man, that looked really nice.
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>>332545202
The portrait or the mod?
Portrait is from Deviantart
Mod is from http://imoen.blindmonkey.org/
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>>332539427
This portrait bothers me.
It's like her face is too big for her head.
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>>332545567
Can you give me a single reason that prevents you from just pirating it? Being a moralfag is not a valid reason.
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>>332545756
I should have been more clear: I was hoping it worked for BG2EE. I've already finished BG1.
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>>332545915
It's a BG1 expansion.
Why the fuck would a BG1 expansion be for BG2 anon?
Also BGT mod team is currently working on BGT for EE called EET which will merge BG1, SoD, BG2 and ToB into one game.
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>>332546004
Expansion? What? I was talking about the UI mod.
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>>332546158
Oh shit I'm blind, sorry anon.
Anyhow there is one for BG2EE as well in that very topic, go to last page and it leads you to author's website where he has a BG2 version which more BG2-ish color scheme.
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>>332539427
cute! I can't romance my sisterfu though.
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>>332546529
>Sister
You're as related to her as you are to Sarevok which is none at all beyond sharing a piece of dead god's soul.
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>>332546768
You literally have the same dad who physically fucked and came inside your mothers.
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>>332546865
Anon stop. I can only get so erect.
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>>332546509
How can one mod be so practical and tasteful at the same time?
A single azn faggot did a better job than the devs whose entire job was basically fixing some bugs and remaking the UI.
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CLASS FEATURES:

– May only wear leather, studded leather, and hide armor
– May not equip shields larger than bucklers
– May only use the following weapons: dagger, club, spear, axe, quarterstaff, dart, sling, and shortbow
– May only become Proficient (one slot) in any weapon class
– May only become Proficient (one slot) in any fighting style
– May cast Druid spells
– Does not automatically learn all spells of a given level as Druids do. Instead, Shamans select new spells to learn when they gain levels; once learned, the Shaman can cast them daily without memorization.
– In addition to learning new spells at every level, the Shaman gains immediate access to a number of shaman-specific spells, which can be cast like any other spell in their repertoire: Spirit Ward, Writhing Fog, Spiritual Clarity, Spirit Fire, Recall Spirit, Spiritual Lock, and Ether Gate
– Gains use of Detect Illusion skill with 20% points as a base, with an additional 4 points per level, up to a maximum of 100% at level 20
– May use Shamanic Dance at will
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SHAMANIC DANCE: Shamans can summon spirit allies by performing a ritualistic dance. While dancing, the Shaman takes a -4 penalty to armor class and cannot move, attack, cast spells, use items and special abilities, or perform any other activity. Each round while the Shaman dances, there is a 35% base chance plus 2% for each level of the Shaman that a spirit will answer the call, up to a maximum of 75% at level 20. Any summoned spirits will disappear if the Shaman moves, stops dancing, or if the spirits leave visual range. The spirits grow in power as the Shaman gains additional levels:
Level 1: Minor animal spirits (snake, fox, hound), up to 2 spirits at the same time
Level 6: Major animal spirits (bear, panther, boar), up to 3 spirits at the same time
Level 12: Minor nature spirits (lesser air spirit, lesser earth spirit, lesser fire spirit), up to 4 spirits at the same time
Level 18: Major nature spirits (air spirit, earth spirit, fire spirit), up to 5 spirits at the same time
The type of the summoned spirit is randomly determined from all the spirits available at the Shaman's level. For example, a level 12 Shaman will summon either a minor nature spirit, a major animal spirit or a minor animal spirit, but cannot choose which one appears. Spirits will do their best to protect the Shaman but are not controlled directly.

– Does not gain bonus spells per day for high Wisdom
– Alignment restricted to neutral good, true neutral, or neutral evil
– May not dual-class or multi-class
– No Stronghold. The Shaman is not eligible for any stronghold. (This affects only the Shadows of Amn campaign in Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition.)
– Hit Die: d8
- Only Humans, Half-Elves and Half-Orcs may become Shamans
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>>332539946
The only psychiatric help that should be sought here is by people who think that NWN1 is worth playing.
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>>332547285
It is. HotU is fun.
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>>332546865
In different forms which also changed his DNA you retard.
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>>332546509
It's okay senpai, thanks for letting me know there is a BG2 version. I was lazy and only read the first couple pages.
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>>332547261
You misspelled "autistic dance"
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>>332546865
First of all, different mothers so that alone results in different genes
Secondly, Bhaal was shapeshifting and fucking everything that moved or not so also see >>332547398

>>332547134
The BG1EE UI still looks better than original BG1 one. And BG2EE UI is literally a fine tuned and improved version of original BG2 one (and there's an official mod that lets youj use the BG2EE UI in BG1EE).
BG1EE UI does indeed look kinda meh but it's quite literally based on the UI from the cancelled PS1 version of BG1 which had that exact dark blue and gold color scheme and everything.
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>>332547285
NWN1 OC is not but to say SoU and HotU are bad is fallacy.
HotU is almost as good as PST and arguably better than MotB.
Personally I think HotU and MotB are equally good and slightly below PST.
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I hate all you cunts who think the original Baldur's Gate had good writing. It's even worse than some Salvatore's FR novels. Beamdog does exactly the same generic fantasy literature bullshit.

You get more content to already broken, unfinished game and complain about it? Go fuck yourself back to Sword Coast Legends, you pricks.
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>>332547368
>>332547689
I was referring to vanilla NWN1. It plays like a bad DnD themed hack and slash.
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>>332547826
>It plays like a bad DnD themed hack and slash.
That's pretty much what it is.
Even BioWare themselves said that the OC campaign was an afterthought they made mostly to show off the power of the Toolset.
SoU and HotU are the proper NWN campaigns.
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Did EE fix the attribute bugs that made 8-14 practically identical, or fix the saving throws not scaling with attributes?
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>>332549085
Yes.
Pretty much all engine-level bugs were fixed and everything that BG/BG2 Fixpack fixes was also fixed by EEs + more.
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>>332549085
Was it a bug?
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Do BG2 saves transfer over to BG2EE well?
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>>332549652
Never tried, wouldn't know but probably not
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>>332549085
That's not a bug.
It's literally bad design straight from AD&D
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>>332549652
I tried once and failed. Character exports do work fine though.
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>>332549794
I'll have to do it my next playthrough. Might as well pirate BG1EE while I'm at it too.
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>>332551173
Can upload pre-modded BG1EE for you if you want with that sexy UI from earlier in the thread.
Installed mods:
http://pastebin.com/XzaXBz4r
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>>332551315
I'm a big boy I can mod it myself. I'd rather pick and choose my own mods too.
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>>332517695
Can't be worse than ye olde wRPG games
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>>332551492
That's why I posted the weidu log in case you find the mods to your liking. Way to bite the hand that feeds you.
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>>332551565
Is this a SA LP?
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>>332519128
>people still believe Chris "Human Kickstarter Goal" Avellone works on games when they "get him on board"
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>>332551670
He literally left Obsidian because they butchered his writing so yes he does work on games anon.
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>>332551656
Wizardry IV LP archive

Best way for someone to see how shit dungeon crawler genre is
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>>332551760
>because they butchered his writing

[citation needed]
He left Obsidian for reasons we don't know.
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>>332551760
Didn't they cut half of his companion dialogue because it was way more than every other companion?
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>>332551921
He literally made a facebook post about week prior to leaving that was something like "I really am tired of people fucking with my writing". That's not an exact quote since I don't remember the exact words but it was something like that.
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>>332551987
They did.
They even admitted to doing such in the Codex interview.
Avellone wrote so much shit that other companions looked like shitty NPC mods in comparison.
Grieving Mother literally even had a "Choose your own adventure" style minigame inside her head if you wanted to learn of her past.
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>>332535719
Elminster isn't badass.
He's just your garden variety marysue.

Dude literally bangs a goddess. Please.
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>>332547592
wait, where can i read about this? i mean him fucking everything that moved and the part of his shapeshifting.
i got the impression that he just fucked the chicks at that camp where gorion&pals attacked.
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>>332552193
It was something related to voice acting too wasn't it? I read that interview.

>>332551920
I think dungeon crawlers can be fun although I usually just play roguelikes.
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>>332551987
Don't forget removing his other companion which was the monk.
They added the monk back in with White March but it was completely rewritten from scratch by a different person and completely neutered from his original drunken anger management issues asshole personality.
Also changing the female gunsmith Cleric into Durance because of SJW outrage over he Boobplate.
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>>332552480
Did you ever fucking play ToB anon? Go play ToB.
He literally fucked a dragon among others.

>>332552495
>It was something related to voice acting too wasn't it? I read that interview.
That was their excuse yeah, they said "W-W-W-WELL WE COULD'VE LEFT IT IN BUT THEN ONLY 1/6 OF THE DIALOGUE WOULD BE VOICED INSTEAD OF 1/2 LIKE IN THE FINAL GAME!!!" as if anyone even gives a fuck about voice acting in an isometric RPG.
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>>332552080
Not his writing, his work. Or something. In his case it is more or less the same, but as we don't really know what it was referring to I wouldn't jump to conclusions.

Fact is, that post came months after PoE was released, so it is incredibly unlikely that the two are related.
Fact too, is that he was Creative Lead on Tyranny, but he probably got stripped of that position sometime before he left. His departure and Tyranny may or may not be related, but my guess is that it isn't.

So that leaves us with nothing but guesswork, as we don't know of a single project he was working on at the time he made that post. Maybe his fallout with Obsidian wasn't even related to any project in particular. Or he handed in some project proposal that got rejected. We simply don't know.
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>>332552495
Eh, roguelikes tend to be even lazier in design; only roguelike I liked was Fortress Mode in DF because you can mold the random world to your liking.
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>>332552743
I'm a fan of Cataclysm (pre DDA) and IVAN.
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>>332552730
You are literally saying "WELL THIS EVIDENCE WHICH CLEARLY IMPLIES THE REASON BEHIND HIM LEAVING IS ONLY GUESSWORK SO YOU CAN'T REALLY KNOW".
Fuck you anon for defending Obshitian and SJWyer.
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>>332552835
I tried to play most of the games on /vg/ roguelike list but in truth I found them even more simplistic combat-wise and lacking pacing. One I liked was the Alien ASCII one, but then again it lacked tons of content - however there was no issue with pacing. There was also some kind of Lovecraftian one that was ridiculously amped up right from the start.

What I like are dungeon crawlers where combat is more action-y, real time and where exploration is better designed. Like Arx Fatalis and King's Field / Shadow Tower.
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>>332552895
What fucking evidence? Why would he have an outburst about his PoE writing at least half a year after it was cut? That would make no sense whatsoever. That would be some serious fucking reaction delay.

I never liked any of Obsidian's games. Not KotOR2, not AP, not even New Vegas. So I couldn't give less of a fuck about them. Never played MotB though.
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>>332552678
yes i did, but only like once or twice. i just don't remember any dialogue of bhaal fucking around apart from that camp
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>>332552526
>caring about boobplate in an isometric game you view from a distance
I wonder if tranny will have boobplate since they're going for a roman vibe and I think one of the screenshots had musculata in it.

>>332553165
I enjoy roguelikes mainly for the stories that come from them. I've never actually finished any.
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>>332553275
It's called shit piling up anon.
He was tired of his work being cut.
Then he saw his monk being butchered for White March.
Then internal power struggle cucked him out of his own game (Tyranny).
He simply said fuck it, I'm done with you assholes.
Besides Obsidian has no good people left anyway since everyone who mattered have long since left for inXile.
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>>332553417
Anon she had boobplate on the artwork and that was enough for SJWs to flip their fucking shit and the entire character was changed to appease them.
Instead of a based female redhead cleric of gunpowder that uses firearms we got Uncle /pol/ instead.
Not that Uncle /pol/ was bad, I just would've preferred the original concept especially since there isn't a single good gun NPC in the game, Kana is much better as 2H melee fighter due to the way his chants work.
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>>332517695
GOG WHEN?
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>>332553417
>mainly for the stories that come from them

That's the reason I play most video games for - imagery, things to ponder. In fact most of the times I'm satisfied after gouging the way something was made, put into motion and designed because I rarely care for the plot like I do for the interactive storytelling (gameplay and map design). That's why most roguelikes don't appeal to me - map design is random and gameplay relies too much on statistics. Stories can be entertaining.
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>>332553986
Tomorrow most likely along Steam, Apple Store and Goole Play releases.
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>>332547793
Disagree. BG1/2 is not deep, philosophical or even top tier as some cock lovers thinks. Still, Beamdog writing is just too similar to modern bioware. You know, gay romance everywhere and all the progressive bullshit.
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>>332536792
>no Aribeth romance or even Aribeth NPC in BG

why even live?
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>>332554165
>You know, gay romance everywhere and all the progressive bullshit.
But that's flat out not true. Why are you shitposting about games you clearly never played? And Dorn is not like the BioWare faggot characters like say Anders or Kaidan where if you reject him it's WOW YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE -999 REP YOU'RE WORSE THAN HITLER FUCK YOU
Dorn is the only of the new NPCs that has a bisexual (not homosex) route and it's fully optional and the game doesn't call you worse than Hitler for not engaging in it.
But you never played EE so we both know you're just a shitposting retard.
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>>332548332
>Even BioWare themselves said that the OC campaign was an afterthought they made mostly to show off the power of the Toolset
*citation needed*
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>>332539427
holy shit they finished it?

them fuckers pulled it together finally? time to reinstall
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>>332554578
good luck finding 15 year old source anon
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>>332553556
I suppose that is possible, although some things still don't match up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any content was written for Forton. His character was just a concept they proposed during (or shortly after, I don't remember) the Kickstarter, when most things about PoE, including the setting, the story, the other companions were at best still in the brainstorming state. A lot of things changed about pretty much every companion that were announced back then. Do we even know for sure if Forton was Avellone's idea?
Tyranny must have been an annoying experience but the timing doesn't seem to match. By his own admission he was Project Lead only during pre-production. Considering Tyranny had been in development since early 2014, I find it unlikely pre-production lasted until mid-2015. Although I can imagine the project going nowhere and him getting sacked, would explain a lot about the game's low budget look and short length.
I agree with you that it was something that was building up, but I'm just not sure about what was the final catalyst. I think there is something we are still missing.
With your last point I completely agree.
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>>332554892
Yep it got fully finished, no more new versions other than possible compatibility updates in case new BG2EE patches break it.
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>>332554560
Hexxat is nto homosex too
It's funny how the two gay/bi npc are evil
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>>332555198
You can romance Hexxat? Didn't even know since I must have picked some wrong dialogue choices.
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>>332555285
Lesbian only
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>mfw telling Jaheira all this bullshit about how I believe in balance and shit just so I can get into her pants
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>tfw trying to find a good half-elf portrait
Where do ya find good portraits nowadays
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>>332555510
I usually find something i like on Pinterest
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>>332555014
Forton was Avellone's idea and there was never actual writing done to him but the core concept for him was in place, he was supposed to be this drunken angry monk figure.

Tyranny definitely went beyond pre-production by that time point, but it's clearly one of the factors that made Avellone upset. Anyone would be really. As for going nowhere, I doubt it since Avellone is not known to have problems with deadlines, quite the opposite really. He's known for making more shit than he's told to and basically always overworking himself.

I can agree that we may not know if any of these were the "final" catalyst but those things were definitely the major reasons building up to him fucking off from Obshitian.
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>>332542007
sauce plz
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>>332555331
Ah, that explains it.
But again I don't see how an optional romance route is bad compared to the shitty shoehorned in-your-face romances of DA2, ME3 and DA3. To say that they're one and the same is a fallacy. The main reason why I'm so pro-EE is that all of the new content is purely optional and if you don't like it you can safely ignore it while still enjoying the improved core experience.
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>>332555641
Don't you need an account for that?
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>>332555510
https://d2.maxfile.ro/qymybkckcn.rar
See if anything strikes your fancy.
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>>332555952
You do, try the /tg/ booru maybe
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anyone post their favorite artwork rooms?
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>>332547171
>no stronghold
this is bullshit of the highest degree
should just be part of the druid order
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>>332556362
I really like the room with the crystals in Irenicus' Dungeon and the place with the Djinni
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>>332555935
Play hexxat. Then we talk again in the closest bar.
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>>332555510
I usually just pick a human or elf portrait I like and paint over it in photoshop to make it look half-elf. Considering even the large portraits are fairly small, it doesn't even take long to make something passable at that resolution.
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>>332555073
do they have a version for the old cd version of bg2?
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So Shaman is quite literally just Druid equivalent of Sorcerer?
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