https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehk25k5QUh0
>Buy expensive 144hz monitor
>Breaks games
PC gaming
>>332505646
You can set your monitor to 60fps
That's something you can't do with consoles lmao
>>332505734
Uhh...
>>332505734
This would never be a problem on consoles
>Windows 10
>>332505646
>Buying a meme monitor
>showing his hand to prove its not sped up when we would notice his camera movement and failing at using the monitor menu shows it's all in real time
wow
Is this an issue with UWP forcing vsync?
>>332505646
Was this game outsourced to brain dead Japs?
Game is really fun, though. I wish it wasn't so expensive, or at least you could try all characters on training.
>>332506467
People on YouTube are idiots and company shills, you have to point out the obvious for them
>>332506574
It's part of the UWP probably
>>332506467
Because if you leave even 1 stone unturned in proving your video is real, the shills crawl out of the woodwork to dismiss it.
>>332505646
>breaks
>actually run better
You are really this desperate?
>>332505646
>Clearly it's meant to be locked at 60fps, as fighting games require a universal framerate to work. That it's not is absurd.
>universal frame rate
Youtube comments really are the digital Laugh Factory.
>>332505646
Why do Americans have such nasally voices?
wow you can fucking smell the dorito breath of that fat neckbeard. Why does he think it's acceptable to talk like the most retarded simpson stereotype?
>>332506467
>preemptively silence nitpicking faggots
And you posted anyway, well done spaz.
>>332505646
Micro$hit shows once again how out of touch they are with PC gaming.
>>332506732
it's true though. can't be competitive if you get an edge by buying expensive stuff. This goes against the literal rules of esport. The game either run or dont run.
>>332506972
>if you get an edge by buying expensive stuff.
Must be a console user, if you're this retarded about how video games work.
thats to be expected from a console port.
fromsoft does something similar with the framerate, where raising it to the 60 standard breaks the game
>>332506972
>can't be competitive if you get an edge by buying expensive stuff.
TVs and monitors have varying input delays. The input time improvement of 144hz is no different an advantage than having bought a more expensive, lower input delay TV.
you can switch to 144hz in online play & it will fuck up the opponent, i think it even causes xbox players to get kicked
easy way to rank up
>>332507041
Except if you launch those Fromsoft games on a 144hz monitor, the engine caps at 60 and everything is fine.
Keep trying to save face, Microshill.
Can't even fix it with mods because W10 store games can't be modded
>>332507141
>the engine caps at 60 and everything is fine.
spoken like a true fromdrone.
it shouldnt cap, that is the point.
games shouldnt tie so much to the framerate, its even worse when the framerate is tied to the refresh rate.
only console games have this problem since the devs doesnt expect people to be able to push the game a bit more
>>332505646
I think the problem comes from the way the game renders. You see, the game actually runs at 90fps but outputs at 60fps to ensure a stable framerate.
>>332507262
>it shouldnt cap, that is the point.
But it does, unlike your shit game. Tell your boss to hire better Q&A
>having win 10 in the first place
>>332507262
>only console games have this problem
Seems that a PC game has this problem mate
shitty x box game doesn't run well on pc?
wow
>>332507329
guess why
>>332507357
This is absolutely the fault of the devs
>>332505646
Street Fighter V did the same FPSGameplayBinding shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuZGoMi7eW8
>>332507394
who originally developed for a console..
>>332505646
>windows 10 only
They tried this with Halo 2 and it failed spectacularly.
>>332507397
Skip frame is nothing like this and is required for accurate in hitboxes.
>>332507262
>games shouldnt tie so much to the framerate
I agree but fighting games are kind of a special case.
>>332505646
Fallout 4 did the same thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4EHjFkVw-s
>games were able to separate the physics timestep from the graphics framerate way since the nintendo 64 and maybe even earlier through the usage of DeltaTime
>even unity advises you to do that
>in 2016 devs still tie physics to framerate
when will they learn?
>>332505646
>PC gaming
I think you mean
>Windows 10
No self respecting person would use Windows 10 let alone use it for GFWL 2.0
>>332507615
Yeah but we already know Fallout 4 is shit.
>>332507615
Did you even watch the video shithead?
It's the new UWP shit with v-sync, blame Microshit for fucking up, it's a great port
>>332507708
Yes and I downloaded the game
>>332507725
nothing to do with v-sync here, just a dumb oversight on the developer's part
>>332507815
>nothing to do with v-sync here
It's 100% to do with v-sync. The UWP platform v-sync locks the game to your monitors refresh.
>>332505646
You fuckers don't even know what you want.
You wanted vsync off on WUP titles - Here it is. Enjoy.
>Whah, but I want myh Vsync
There is no pleasing you, fuckers.
>windows 10
>>332507635
Like >>332507486 says, fighting games are a special case.
Directly counting frames is kind of integral to playing fighting games properly. There's probably alternatives for a non-fixed timestep but nobody has implemented such as system yet and it would probably be quite controversial amongst the fgc.
>>332506467
he probably moved his hand in slow motion
>>332508043
Vsync and a frame limit aren't the same thing
>frame data for moves is literally tied to being 60fps
>get mad when you can't play in 144fps
It makes reading frame data easier when there's absolute values on moves instead of having to guess
>>332506345
this.
every other game has some issue with this OS.
>>332506520
>>332507874
No. The problem is the game literally has no vsync at all. They removed it (Because why the fuck would you play a fighting game with vsync)? but it's there's a bug with the new Nvidia drivers and some monitors with higher refresh rates than 60FPS where the game sets the FPS to the refresh rate over the monitor.
>>332508203
And here you go talking about feamelimits. Do you want IG to get flack from |framerate police" or be acussed of doing shitty job on this port because of it? People go on and on how framelimits are bad, but then ask for one.
You guys just want to complain about things.
>>332508145
you can't count frames anyway, at 60 FPS already each frame is way under the brain's reaction time, which is something like 0.25 seconds
>>332508043
we want our games to be run on any framerate and still have same timeline.
This fuckers can't code for PC if their lives would depend on it, this is why Console programmers are fucking hacks.
>>332508320
Oops, I should have detected the sarcasm in your first post. Sorry anon.
how the fuck am i supposed to know which character to buy if i cant even test them in training mode
>>332505646
You would have to be seriously retarded or a straight up nigger to ever use windows 10
>>332505646
Every game made for W10 has awful fucking framerate issues, this isn't a surprise at all
>>332508334
You literally can
>someone uses a move that you know is -8 on block when you block it
>use a move that has a start up of 7 or less
>free punish
I'm considering upgrading to Windows 10 for future Win10 only titles. I've got sxsome questions though.
>is it true MS is going to crack down on pirated files by scanning your PC for them and making pirated them unusable?
>can you upgrade to Win10 and keep all your files/directories intact from Win7?
>are there any real features or quality of life features missing from Win7 when going up to Win10?
I've used Win10 briefly on relatives' PCs and I really dislike the metro look. I'm hoping that there's a way to install custom Aero skins on it so that I can make it look like my modified Windows 7.
>>332508609
>is it true MS is going to crack down on pirated files by scanning your PC for them and making pirated them unusable?
No.
>can you upgrade to Win10 and keep all your files/directories intact from Win7?
Yes.
>are there any real features or quality of life features missing from Win7 when going up to Win10?
No.
>>332508609
>upgrading to Windows 10 for future Win10 only titles
>get ki on win10
>my 144hz monitor breaks the game; runs it at 144fps
>change my refresh to 60hz
>IMMENSE screen tearing ensues
>set frame limiter on nvidia inspector to 60fps
>game crashes every time i'm about to be connected to a multiplayer match
super glad i didn't spend money on this shit. it's hard to articulate how retarded you have to be to release a fighter without a frame cap. seriously, what the fuck, iron galaxy? this is beyond amateurish
>mfw waiting for them to fix their game
>>332508609
You could just dual boot it with your current OS just for the exclusive games. Then upgrade permanently if you feel like it.
>>332507703
>No self respecting person would use Windows 10 let alone use it for GFWL 2.0
Brave PC users do.
W10 is the future. Might as well get used to it.
>>332508609
>for future Win10 only titles.
You better have a pretty fucking good PC.
>>332508794
>Brave PC users do.
>W10 is the future. Might as well get used to it.
For the last time fuck off Microsoft. I tried W10 for the hell of it, it sucks worse than vista, I don't want your spyware.
>>332508609
>I've used Win10 briefly on relatives' PCs and I really dislike the metro look. I'm hoping that there's a way to install custom Aero skins on it
Nope. At least not natively.
That's probably one of the most insulting things about W10. No "Win 7 Classic Mode" whatsoever. I mean, fuck Microsoft, throw your fans a bone. At least put some lube in before you penetrate.
Only reason to use W10 right now is for DX12 and progress with the PS3/WiiU emulators.
I installed W10 to a partition on my SSD purely for Gears of War UE because I have fond memories of it at launch with friends on 360, but the game is utterly dead because of GFWL 2.0 Microsoft is forcing on everyone. So dead that they actually pruned all the available competitive gametypes from like 6 or 7 down to 2 because nobody can find a game. That's not even taking into consideration how gimped the game was at release with stuttering out the ass on AMD and Nvidia GPUs. The issues are fixed for me now but that doesn't mean shit if everyone who looked forward to the game and bought it on day 1 refunded it immediately.
I can only imagine the same fate awaits Killer Instinct. Really don't understand why they can't just put these games out on Steam simultaneously like they did with Rise of the Tomb Raider. Surely if you believe in your proprietary digital storefront so much, people will choose it given the choice between it and other services like Steam or even GOG.
>>332508857
>le bitching about W10
It's the future whether you like it or not. Too many normies are enjoying it and the entire trajectory of nvidia/amd have solidified growth plans based on Directx12.
lol
>>332509174
>le
Why am I not surprised that W10 defenders are reddit/9gag memers?
>>332509252
le is reddit anti-meme, you doofus.
>>332508279
Nvidia just stopped caring about drivers, huh? So many bad reports lately.
None of this worries me because I have it on the Xbone.
>>332509374
>he lives for memes to the point where he can't tell whats what anymore
Explains why you're defending W10 at least.
>>332509441
No bad reports on AMD so far. Game has a framelock of 60FPS within the UWP even though it has litterally no vsync so it shouldn't be going over 60FPS in the first place. Whatever Nvidia did in the last driver update must have fucked around with it.
>>332509452
>sucks that you found some shards of broken glass in that pile of shit you're eating, Microsoft only left piss in mine!
>>332509685
But the game is amazing and runs with no problems on the X1.
>>332509590
i think the problem has to do with the way ki displays at 60fps but is actually rendered at 90fps. this is why the netcode seems so godlike. any input delay/lag is handled by the extra 30fps so it seems buttery smooth on xb1.
however, because most pc players (myself included) like to run games at whatever their system can handle, something fucked up.
it's absolutely IG's fault. dont blame nvidia. IG released a game on pc and thought it was okay for the game's code to simply render the game at whatever the user's display's native refresh rate was. this is absolutely unacceptable and goes to show how lazy and ineffectual developers are these days.
the idea that you'd code the game to run at a display's refresh instead of just setting a frame limit is arse backwards as fuck. i'd be mystified at their incompetence if i wasn't such a jaded dickhead. but i am, and i expect nothing less of a modern game release on the windows store.
fucking pathetic
>>332509784
Youre right. Its bait
why cant I find any games
So ranked was working fine for me before but now every game seems to crash it, anyone else getting this?
>he fell for the "more than 60hz monitor" meme
>>332509971
>every game seems to crash it, anyone else getting this?
yep. game is literally unplayable.
Yes, this is the dev's fault and they should fix it.
But honestly, if you play fighting games on PC and expect them to work, at this point you only have yourself to blame.
SF4: leaderboards fucked up, cheaters everywhere, Games for Windows Live sucked
SSF4: didn't even release on PC
SSF4AE: the sorely needed 2012 balance patch was released months after console, netcode and matchmaking were broken after it was ported to Steamworks after GfWL was shut down
MK9: crash bugs everywhere
SFxT: patches and DLC were many months later than on console, online multiplayer no longer works at all after GfWL was shut down
Injustice: drops to 30fps
USF4: still had the same netcode and matchmaking problems for weeks / months after release
MKX: installer didn't work, resulting in missing characters; game is buggy overall, developers dropped support so the last batch of DLC and patches will never be available
SF5: only supports XBox controllers (although it was codeveloped by Sony!) out of the box
But surely Killer Instinct wouldn't have any problems! Time to preorder!
>>332510261
Just ranked, singleplayer and offline are fine, completely playable and having a blast.
does this game have ranking match making? this is the only reason I can think of for not finding games, but I thought they would reset the leaderboards? or wasnt that been done yet?
![MV5BMTM5MjY0MzU0OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTE0NDA2NA@@._V1_SX640_SY720_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fP7vk1O.jpg "MV5BMTM5MjY0MzU0OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTE0NDA2NA@@._V1_SX640_SY720_[1].jpg")
>>332505646
wow Jay Baruchel is making video game youtube videos now?
>>332510340
>Game didn't even have pre-orders, you can download and try it for free.
Pretty fair desu.
>>332510340
Xrd works fine.
>>332510457
>game dropped frames with certain sticks after a while of playing
>lobbies didnt display correct connections at launch so people unfairly kicked out
granted this was all fixed in about 5 days.
>>332510340
>they constantly fuck up
>we should just accept it and wait on every shitty release
No, fuck you. I exepct a finished game when it releases especially when i paid for it
>>332510359
>single player is fine
yeah, no shit. training mode works perfectly. i don't play 1v1 vs fighting games to fight a cpu.
do NOT apologise for this shit.
>>332510340
>if you bought a game on the platform on which it's released you are to blame
fucking kill yourself. it doesn't matter if you can list a thousand examples of games not working on pc. the point is that they should. it's absolutely on the developers to not be cuntwits.
STOP.BLAMING.THE.CONSUMER. you dipshits
>>332510674
Get some friends and play local you fat fuck.
>>332505646
>windows 10
You deserve every second of pain.
>>332510757
im actually gorgeous and slim but everyone that knows how to build a pc weighs 200kg, right?
>play this online fighter offline and stop complaining
christ almighty
>console devs bad at programming
kek
>>332510674
>the point is that they should. it's absolutely on the developers to not be cuntwits.
I agree. It's outrageous and Iron Galaxy should absolutely fix their product - and they should not have released it in this state.
But it's also on you not to make stupid purchasing decisions. Aside from Divekick and maybe Skullgirls, EVERY SINGLE PC PORT OF A FIGHTING GAME HAS BEEN SHIT. How many more times are you going to fall for it?
>>332510674
Perhaps your computer cn't run the game? I heard the online locks if you don't meet a certain criteria
>>332509932
works fine on amd
>>332510931Same devs that brought you Arkham Knight on PC.
>>332511047
dude, i didn't buy it. that's why i'm not super upset. i just downloaded the ftp version. but it's absolutely, demonstrably insane that "the norm" for new games is that they don't work as advertised on release. it's fucking absurd.
i don't know how much you know about programming -- i'm not a super expert myself -- but the fact that they made the game render at the display's refresh rate is monstrously moronic.
i've been playing fighting games since the mid 90s. being an arcade rat to buying almost every release on console so i could practice for the arce and i have never once -- NOT ONCE -- seen a fighting game with screen tearing. this game has screen tearing. and it doesn't work online.
there is no excuse
>>332505646
>W10
>>332511205
my build has the newest i7 and a 980 with 16megafucks of ram. my pc runs anything.
you dont know what you're talking about. the hardware test occurs in game after you try to play online the first time.
this has nothing to do with the game literally not functioning properly
>PCucks complaining about a literally free Turbo mode
Still not as fast as MvC2.
https://twitter.com/killerinstinct/status/714884186985762817
>>332511585
You'd think a dev company has at least one 144Hz monitor to test their vidya on.
>>332505646
Why does he talk like fucking Plinkett ahaha holy shit this is hilarious
On a non-consolefag question, does buying this reward all characters already released? Or is this just part of the game and I'll have to buy DLC to have it complete?
>>332511585
>https://twitter.com/killerinstinct/status/714884186985762817
set my monitor to 60hz. ludicrous screen tearing and the game crashes to desktop when trying to matchmake. not even an error code. the program just disappears.
again: stop blaming the consumer. this isn't a workaround. it doesn't work. it's dogshit
>>332511814
Supreme edition gives you every character and their Retro costumes except for Shadow Jago.
Otherwise you can buy characters individually, or in season packs.
>>332511864
No one's blaming the consumer, the devs are saying they're working on a fix and giving people a workaround in the meantime.
>>332511864
I'm not blaming anyone, just pointing out their statement on it.
>>332511814
the game is free with saberwulf only, there are options to buy all season 1/2 characters, all character including season 3 or individual characters.
>>332511921
>>332511953
Thanks. That's actually a pretty good business model in my opinion.
>>332511953
How prevalent are the free rotation characters online?
>>332511936
>>332511939
yeah, fair enough. but the devs' workaround doesn't work. you can change your refresh rate. you can set a frame limit in nvidia inspector. the game still crashes.
how did they not test this before release? it just doesn't make any sense.
>>332512082
idk since I cant find any games at the moment.
>>332512252
qft
>vidya-engine requires a specific framerate to work
what is this, the 1990s?shoutout to dark souls
>>332508279
you have no clue what vsync is.
>>332508609
>for future Win10 only titles
you mean for games being launched in 2019?
>>332505646
How do you not kill yourself if you have a voice like that?
this game is like the launch of sfv all over again
>searching for opponent
.....
>failed to reach matchmaking servers
dont even know why I bother to get mp based games at launch anymore.
>>332509932
It's not that bad, I just put my monitor down to 60hz and everything is silky smooth
Except for my season 2 and 3 characters are absent
i was having fun just fucking around with Jago in the trials, problem now is I have negative 20% interest in playing Sabre. Luckily i get paid tomorrow and can pick up some waifu.
>>332506582
£4 for individual characters or £25 for the entire S1+2 roster is expensive? in terms of buying the complete pack with everything its the same or less than full priced games, and in terms of individual characters i don't have much to compare it to except MOBA that charge for characters like that HotS shit, which charges even more than £4, and the game is a fucking Starcraft2 mod.
Hisako is best grill
>>332512853
Supposedly the servers are complete shit right now and can't handle all the PC people coming in and doing Crossplay.
>>332515192
they should put some tutorial and several challenges for each char, so I can try it out before bying it, one thing is to watch trailers with this char, the other thing is playing it
>>332515341
I really need to learn how to play her (bough her for a buck a month or so ago).
What's the best site to learn about characters and their movesets?
>>332515726
yeah thats fair enough, other games do have a character demo mode.
fun characters to play? Tried Jago and Hisako and not really feeling it.
>>332506167
Well no shit, it'd be the opposite. I'd rather have the problem of "too high of a framerate" than "a fraterate or 20 or less"
>>332507070
You have more frames to work with. Some YouTube actually showed that it offers a slight advantage (in csgo), even if sometimes placebo. A monitor with better response time gives you advantage also.
>>332515820
Training mode
>>332515726
Yeah seriously, I have no idea why they didn't do that.
shill me when the matchmaking is fixed. I still need to partition windows 10 on my good computer.
