>80 horizontal FOV
>dim screen, competitor literally 30% brighter
>lens flare effect
>touch not even fucking close
Are you ready to experience the 5 minute experiences for 12 year olds even though this thing is 13+?
>facebook vs valve
Gee I wonder which one I should choose
I mean they are both not ideal but cmonits 2016.
>>332450772
>>80 horizontal FOV
that was a complete lie though
vive also has lens flare
>>332451005
Huh?
Oculus is the product of an untalented jew. That it would miss the mark in nearly all aspects shouldn't be surprising. It's entertaining to watch it unfold on the internet, though, where the jews can't control the narrative as to which product should be adopted.
>>332451283
Yeah that guy lied, it's more than 80 because you have two eyes. Close one of your real life eyes, now your fov is tiny as fuck, congrats
Single Eye FOV doesn't mean shit when comparing headsets because overlap
First gen VR has very low FOV overall, vive is just as shit, though a few % better (lesser overall image quality as tradeoff though)
>NDA until release
>the moment its lifted shit starts flowing
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
>>332452221
Some faggot on plebbit did the testing on the grid pic and he reports 80 +- couple degrees depending on your face structure.
>half the price of Oculus and 3x less than Vive where I live
>actually comfy, well balanced, doesn't use straps or leave face marks
>more decent launch games since it comes out later and will get plenty of multiplats. also no shitty GearVR ports
gun b good
>>332452239
Oh god the Star Wars metaphor is perfect.
Obi-wan is Valve, trained Oculus at the start with their R&D.
Facebook is Palpatine, bought Oculus and took them to the dark side.
>>332452221
having one eye closed doesn't change your vertical FOV
>>332453926
Can you explain "( ( ) )" shit of the CV pic?
>>332454182
I'm pretty sure it's the overlap so what >>332452221 was complaining about
I trust Valve much more with video games. But it's $800 so I'll just wait till second generation unless I get an amazing job out of nowhere.
It will be awesome for all kinds of simulation games though
>>332454106
You are forgetting
>30 fps
>>332454106
PSVR will probably be the best early one with the strongest launch. It'll be shit in comparison after a year when the others get solid content.
Vive has a few degrees more than the Rift, it's barely noteworthy, both are worse than the devkit
it's $300 cheaper tho
>vr under 160 fog
I really hope you guys don't do this.
>buying VR devices in 2016
It's like you enjoy burning money
>>332454725
I made money reselling mine on eBay bro
>>332450772
>Pre-order Oculus
>ETA JULYFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>332454725
I enjoy not being poor like you.
>>332454842
Did you even check out the launch "lineup"? Had you received yours yesterday you'd already be out of content to play, unless you enjoy indie unity arcade shovelware
>>332454953
Maybe he's not a faggot like you and enjoys sims?also there is plenty of porn
>>332454953
Elite and Project Cars look great if you have a HOTAS/Wheel
Chronos might be good
Adr1ft and Lucky's Tale look good but are a little short
>>332455076
>sims
DCS doesn't work and the resolution is too low for competitive racing
Porn doesn't work on the CV1 yet
>>332454913
>being this insecure
>>332454953
Project Cars dude
VR and a wheel controller
and then that space ship game
>>332454380
well memed
>>332454407
I don't see how it'll be more shit than the others after one year when that's around the time when AceCombat7 and GranTurismo are released. Either way short term is what matters for now, we can talk all day about the potential of Oculus 3 years from now but on launch the library is very underwhelming (best game being a multiplat) and owners are left dry with no motion controllers for who knows how long. At least Vive owners can have fun with weapon tech demos and drawing programs on day 1.
>people suddenly like E:D because it has VR
It's impressive for 5 hours, then you realize it's nothing but grinding with shallow as fuck combat
which is why the devs almost went bankrupt
>>332454953
who cares about VR for gaming I want to watch movies like I'm in a theatre and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjE6qXd6Itw
You do not want really bright screens that close to your eyes.
Just letting you know dude.
>shitters trying to shitpost literal future tech
>shitters trying to shit on john carmack the literal god if gaming who became a rocket scientists inbetween making game engines
>shitters who have no fucking clue and honestly believe the most expensive, best designed VR system is somehow going to be inferior to shitty halfass knockoffs that werent in development until last year
>>332455251
Because the PS4 is too limiting to truly show VR's potential. This early on people are just figuring things out so everything is low poly but that's only one aspect VR can offer.
Also it won't be 3 years. In 3 years we'll see a new HMD altogether.
>>332455251
>well memed
Memed? So ps4 now produces more than 30 frames per second in games?
>>332455712
95% of the shit in the oculus store could easily run in psvr
it is literal xbox live arcade trash
>>332455563
i don't doubt god carmack anon. he's a legend
but i 100% doubt palmer luckey who is a grade A shill and trust him about as far as i can throw that fat tub of shit
that leaves based gaben by default
>>332455869
Except yesterday faggots on stream had to lower AA in some games because their oculus provided pc with 970 couldnt handle store indie trash. Good luck getting 90+ with your brick.
>>332455869
>95% of the shit in the oculus store could easily run in psvr
>sonycucks actually believe this
>>332455563
Carmack hasn't worked on the rift since the acquisition. They got him working on mobile vr, probably in a deal to get cheap screens from Samsung.
>>332456435
He was mostly talking about minecraft shit in past couple of presentations. I was expecting that shit in the store desu.
>>332455563
I'm not shit talking it, I think VR is cool. But now is not an appropriate time to buy, it'll be better and cheaper in the future.
>>332455684
It's not like 90% of Oculus and Vive's games are graphical showcases. Devs are for the most part testing the waters with simple games and graphics. Even more "bombastic" games like EVE Valkyrie are also PSVR multiplats. Either way art direction always trumps graphics. Thumper looks better than Radial G, and Dreams is more visually and technically impressive than Tilt brush, for example.
>>332455712
I know you are just shitposting or a falseflagger to make PCfriends look bad. But yes, every PSVR game has a consistent 60fps minimum requirement (reprojected to 120Hz). Even 30 fps games like Driveclub can be adapted to run at native 60fps (perceived as 120) for VR, pic related.
You can removed most post processing effects from games and that alone will increase the framerate by quite a bit.
I'm not saying PSVR games will be on par with PC, that's ridiculous, but they won't look like absolute dogshit either, like you're implying.
>>332457507
how long till regular steam games like project cars and dirty rally support VR? VR racing sounds super fun
>>332457507
>60fps minimum requirement (reprojected to 120Hz)
>at native 60fps (perceived as 120)
>reprojected
>perceived as
What the fuck is this shit?
>>332457507
> Devs are for the most part testing the waters with simple games and graphics
Which is why I said PSVR will be the best early on. Once devs can test beyond those waters is when the other headsets will shine and PSVR will lag behind on PS4 hardware.
>Either way art direction always trumps graphics.
Of course but you can only play so many low poly games with simple graphics before it gets old.
>ven more "bombastic" games like EVE Valkyrie are also PSVR multiplats.
EVE Valkyrie looks noticeably worse on PSVR and this has been said by many.
>>332457828
Project Cars is a Rift launch title. It's already out with support. Dirt Rally will have support soon.
Cancelled my preorder yesterday. Fuck facebook.
Who /gearvr+trinus/ here?
>paying more than $100 for first gen vr
>>332457828
Project Cars already said it would have VR support so if its not already available it should be soon.
>80FOV
Oh god i just realized that VR will never be good. They will never fix the FOV problem, consoles have ruined it forever.
>>332458586
But psvr's fov is 100 degrees, I even read someone on the oculus reddit say having tried them all psvr's was seemed like the biggest to him, probably because its the easiest to adjust so he found his sweet spot.
>>332458586
Dunno what you're talking about, but you should check StarVR for increased FOV.
This is a huge step in VR.
Please do what I did and take off the technophile hat for one day and just enjoy the content in VR. For me, I purposefully put my tech opinions aside and just let the content in, and it was absolutely glorious. I simply can't wait for what the next 5 years have to offer for VR...that is...
<rant>
..if you fucking crybabies don't ruin the entire VR business before it has a chance to take off. This is the only real problem. Your incessant complaining is like the guy in the movie theater bitching at full volume about some minor detail that quite literally nobody else in the theater (currently enjoying the movie) gives a flying fuck about. Stop giving snarky quote snippets to gaming press that are too lazy to come up with their own opinions as those opinion pieces shape the buying decisions for the larger market. Articles written in those voices can torpedo a the entire VR industry before it has a chance to even get started. VR HAS to go wide or it will never take off.
Everybody that's boo-hoo'ing about FOV, light rays, and apples/oranges feature comparison needs to chill. This first gen hardware (yes, first gen) and as with all first gen hardware it will contain compromises that will need to be revised to further the state of the art. Yes, the Vive has other features, so does the gear, so does the PSVR, and guess what - some of us like all 4 and will support all of them wherever the content is.
It blows my mind the level of "expert" commentary on these topics. Please, just stop for a second - take a breath - and try to enjoy the content in this new medium and judge the experience on those merits. Yes, there will be things that suck - just like there were things that sucked about 1st gen LCD monitors, or 1st gen iPhones/Androids, or 1st gen consoles. The first real handheld game console was 2 bit color greyscale and 5x the size of a modern smartphone with no backlight. There were no pitchforks back then, why so many now?
>>332450772
What are you talking about you autistic fuck? What product?
>>332459495
Check the shirt of the fat autist in the OP, you fucking underaged shitstane.
do project cars and dirt rally already support headtracking? I'll probably just use that till VR is cheaper
>>332455370
That's at full res though, won't look like that in the headset.
>>332459624
trackir
these head mounted displays unfortunately lack the resolution you need if you love racing games (which seem like it would be one of the better uses for one). it's too hard to see the apex of the turns
>>332457828
isn't project CARS already VR compatible? either way virtually any game can be modded into VR, you just have to wait for it, I'm sure there's already a lively modding community around porting games for it. I've seen a Zelda wind waker VR port a year or so ago already
>>332457864
there are a couple of dev talks online about it, just search "MIGS15 Playstation VR" on YouTube, should be the first video and he goes over it at 35 minutes
>>332458040
I didn't disagree with any of those points. but with the exception of truly high end games like StarCitizen, everything else can run on a PS4 with enough graphical downgrades. hell, even ARK somehow works with PSVR.
>EVE Valkyrie looks noticeably worse on PSVR
did you read the last line on my post?
how is that different from any other non-VR multiplat ever? MGS5 or Witcher3 look worse on PS4, but they look good enough for console owners. EVE also looks worse but has all the same functionality and gameplay, which is what truly matters at the end of the day. both ps4 and PSVR are entry level devices in cost and ease of use, of course they won't look as great.
Point is that it looks good enough and will help the VR industry as a whole
>>332454913
At this point I'm still unsure if people are trolling with this same shitty argument. You know how people became wealthy? They didn't waste their money.
They don't replace their overpriced cars every year. They don't buy a new tv/computer/etc every year either.
You know what, after further thought it must be that this argument is meant to piss those of us who work our asses off for our money. Congratulations, asshole. It worked. You must be a child who gets everything handed to him by his parents if you're not a troll.
I'm not even poor. I work 70 hours a week and I earn 106k/yr with OT. I save and invest every penny for an early retirement. I really need to leave /v/ as there are literal children who have never been out in the real world everywhere.
>tl:dr - Here's your "you". You earned it, limp dick.
>>332459448
>this new medium
My problem isn't any single detail, it's the whole concept.
There's absolutely nothing new that this current "VR" makes possible. It only makes familiar things like turning your viewpoint more cumbersome in exchange for shallow novelity.
Every new technology that really takes root is characterized by being more convenient or affordable than something that came before, and this definately isn't either.
It's just a gimmick
>>332460556
Calm down mr autismo. My country is not even on the shipping list.
>>332460348
The differentiation in graphics is substantially worse in VR. It's a completely different playing field. A now even one at that.
Part of the reason why console owners are ok with lower end graphics on consoles is that you're playing them on a TV further away. It's much harder to pixel peep things like LOD with this setup. Not the case with VR, it's there in your face and you're in it and everything stands out like a sore thumb. Just watch the GiantBomb stream to get what I mean. Even on PC, there was comments on the shimmering with EVE or in Project Cars with the less LOD.
>Point is that it looks good enough and will help the VR industry as a whole
Never said it wouldn't, problem is as things evolve the PS4 will stay stagnant. Maybe their 4k version will help but I doubt by much. I think that rumor is mostly a PS4 with a HDMI 2.0 revision rather than having higher graphic capabilities so they can push their 4k content store rather than you having to buy their $700 4k player that hasn't gone over too well.
>>332455563
BUY
MY
HEADSET
>>332461029
I think your are emphasising the graphics too much. I have yet to see anyone complaining about their PSVR experience (aside from Golem which is a shitty game) even the guys at Tested enjoyed it. all opinions I read about and watch are on par with other HMDs.
>>332462474
Most of the comparisons come from other games or are comparing the HMDs themselves which are all very similar.
There are very few multi-plats with PSVR atm. EVE is the only one I know so far that actually has decent graphics so you have to find the people who tried both there. Pretty sure I heard it from Tested themselves in one of their podcasts.
>>332455563
>>shitters trying to shit on john carmack the literal god if gaming who became a rocket scientists inbetween making game engines
mega
textures
>>332464293
>>332460556
>whipping out your yearly salary on a video games message board
wew lad
>they're still arguing over which shitty Chinese 3D goggles will run porn games better
>>332456224
The only people making games for VR are indies. If you think any of them have good graphics you're mistaken. PSVR is the only real market for VR. Enjoy your non triple A titles.
$600 TO PLAY SHITTY MOBILE GAMES!! CONTROL THE CAMERA IN GAMES WITH YOUR NECK!! THE FUTURE IS NOW, IT'S NOT JUST A GIMMICK!!!
>>332464929
>>332460556
>Works overtime
>Thinks he isn't poor
How fucking stupid are you ameripoors.
