Would you have played it?
>>332449080
I did.
>>332449338
kek
>>332449080
Based on the leaked builds, I don't think it would've been good. I didn't have a Saturn, anyway.
>>332449080
i think it would have given me motion sickness so no
>>332449080
Probably, I most likely would have gotten a Saturn.
>>332449695
Pretty much this, and that's not including the 06-tier story.
>>332449338
No you didn't, anon.
Sonic X-treme was never released, but instead canceled, you see.
Back then I would have played anything with Sonic on it.
sum1 pls explain ;';
I've played almost every Sonic game because I'm retarded, so yeah, I would have.
>>332451340
Explain what?
Would X-Treme have saved the Saturn and, in turn, Sega?
>>332451537
No, and the Saturn only killed Sega in the west anyway. It was fairly successful in Japan.
>>332451537
Probably not. Not as long as Bernie Stupid was in charge.
>>332451537
No. X-Treme would've been crap and the issues were the Saturn were far more extensive than a single Sonic game.
>>332451721
Nicely memed.
>>332449957
If it did release, SoJ probably would've ignored it's place in canon since they didn't make it. Kinda like what they did with Knuckles Chaotix.
>>332451537
No.
Xtreme needed to be a launch title.
It could have been a shit game but at least SEGA's star would be there on opening night.
Coming out later with a shit game wouldn't have saved it
>>332452059
>they should've released a piece of shit
No, that's the same retarded attitude that gave us 06 and Boom. Fuck off.
>>332451537
For the time, yes. As an early launch title, it would have done what it was supposed to do. As a late release, no.
>>332449897
What he said. No Sonic no Saturn
>>332451993
But anon, Knuckles' Chaotix wasn't totally ignored. Characters from it still persist to this day.
And plenty of stuff from the other games are constantly ignored, forgotten, handwaved, retconned, or considered non-canon, anyway.
>Hyper Sonic
>the moon being partly destroyed
>Eggman Nega
>etc.
Obviously. The fish-eye looked interesting for me.
>>332452816
>the moon being partly destroyed
Don't they just say that the part that's destroyed doesn't face the planet or something like that?
>>332449080
in the 90's?
are you fucking joking?
EVERYONE would have played it because Sonic was at the fucking TOP of his fucking game
now?
only to see what it was like since it has been only a ghost since 1996.
>>332453129
Yes. If you really wanna believe it.
>>332453489
I suppose my standards aren't too high for what excuse they give me in a world where animals talk and have powers. I probably would've bought it if they just said the part destroyed grew back.
>>332453129
Yeah, it was already some dumb fan theory, and they more or less said, "sure, let's go with that".
>>332453620
They could probably rebuild the moon given their level of technology and commonplace magic.
All they had to do was say Eggman rebuilt it so he could build a moon base in the Advance games, but that would require Iizuka to care about things he hasn't personally had his hands in.
Iizuka is like Japanese Penders.
If the early leaked footage was what the entire game wouldve been like, no. The saturn sucked at 3D games. Im glad adventure came from that disaster
I remember when someone posted the PC version of the engine demo they were making to present to sega, or whatever that deal was.
It felt really bad.
>>332451537
Probably not
Sega had a lot of problems, probably the worst that comes to mind is SoJ's sheer incompetence and spite for SoA, and while it might have helped the saturn along it wouldn't have been enough.
>>332449338
/thread
>>332454081
I believe they said they never reached the point where they made actual levels for the game (only test levels), so maybe they could've made it a bit better with level design and polish, but I doubt it.
Anyone ever play Sonic in Christmas NiGHTS?
It plays like fucking shit. And what I've heard one of the plans during Xtreme (far from the only one, that entire story is a goddamn mess of things not going right) was to use that engine at some point. Worked for Nights for sure but shit man I don't wanna see sonic in that.
>>332449957
>including the 06-tier story.
Care to elaborate?
>>332454081
Saturn was about on par with the PS1 in terms of 3D, just much, much harder to program for.
>>332454521
One of the producers said they threw around the idea of using the NiGHTS engine, but decided against it.
>>332454459
Theres an entire story of its development on sonic retro. They wanted to use the nights engine at first but yuji naka has always been a butthurt faggot and got mad when someone else not in sonic team used his engine. So they had to made their own. one thing the game did right was have some kind of horror aspect to it. there was a desert level that looked really grimy and dark, was really scary
yes, its better than any 3d sonic since then
>>332454718
from what I heard it was in the plans but Naka got butthurt about it and forced them to not use his engine.
>>332454718
Oh no, they actually DID use it. For all of two weeks. Then Yuji Naka found out (as no one asked him first) and he threw a fit.
Two weeks of work wasted.
>>332454621
The entire story was based on an OC girl who was written to be the most ridiculously stupid "grrl power" stereotype imaginable, except they thought it was actually good.
>>332454814
>>332454720
>>332454853
Naka being mad was an urban myth. The reason why the Nights engine wasn't used is because they didn't make a gameplay demo in time, which means Sega higherups signed off on the other engine.
>>332454814
Senn never mentioned that in the FAQ on X-treme he did a long time ago.
>>332454930
On the other hand... Lacey Chabert.
>>332454930
>The entire story was based on an OC girl who was written to be the most ridiculously stupid "grrl power" stereotype imaginable, except they thought it was actually good.
>grrl power
oh boy
>>332449080
Yeah, I would have. I remember lusting over screens of it in EGM. I was fucking bummed out, the Saturn came and went and yet there was no updates other than the cancellation. My saturn just became a Fighter's Mega Mix machine. Luckily I already had a playstation and a 64 so I had other shit to look forward to.
>>332449080
Seemed like a novel idea for a 3D platformer and probably would have looked great with the NiGHTS engine. Looked like it would have to be a little too linear andslowhowever.
>>332451707
dude, they already had fatal wounds from the CD and 32X and all the other shit. Saturn was just putting lemon in the wound.
the japanese library of most systems of tons of cool shit we never got or get even now.
>>332455931
It was that and shit marketing in America. The Saturn and Dreamcast did pretty fucking well in Japan.
>>332454521
You do realize that the engine would have been modified to work for a Sonic game?
Repurposing an engine doesn't mean it's going to be 1:1 copy if how another game plays. Don't be stupid anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6o9Q65cJ5k
>>332454930
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>>332455246
At least a God tier tit job picture came out of it?
>>332456117
shit marketing for the saturn at least
im surprised that with the install base of the genesis, they didn't jump on what should have been a 32 bit genesis machine pumping out good shit.
these are the times i wish i could get games and systems from alternate universes just to see how it worked out.
>>332456345
I think her last name was literally Boobowski
>>332456345
i guess?
i'd kinda like to doodle her though, sporty top and such are cute. hate the fucking sonic shoes though.
>>332455931
The sega CD actually had mild success. it was the 32x that was handled poorly. marketed as a cheaper upgrade for people who couldnt afford to go into next gen. no internal studios were working on it. third parties were focusing on actual next gen consoles and done with the genesis.
>>332455931
The CD wasn't really a failure and the 32X was developed and launched in parallel with the Saturn as a lower-price alternative for poorfags. The Saturn fucked over Sega hard regardless of its library because of the retarded design choices and executive meddling that went into it.
>>332455931
No.
The Sega CD was moderately successful, and the 32X may have been as well had it had a chance to actually get some games before the Genesis was killed off worldwide by Sega of Japan when it still had years left in it in the west.
People were optimistic about the 32X when it was first revealed, and for fuck's sake, it had a major Castlevania game lined up for it, among other things.
>>332456345
That's one way of looking at it, sure.
>>332456586
>>332456646
>>332456723
problem was, EVERYONE i knew who had a genesis never had a CD and only 1 of them had a 32X which he shelved after getting it on his birthday.
>>332456345
>At least a God tier tit job picture came out of it?
elaborate
A system that had so much potential...
>>332457224
Okay cool, that doesn't mean it was a complete failure. Financially, it was a modest success. Not as much as the Genesis itself but enough to justify its existence.
It was the Saturn and 32X (though to a lesser degree) that fucked over Sega financially.
>>332457224
And I didn't personally know anyone with an original Xbox?
What is the point of your anecdote supposed to be?
>>332457552
This. Sega CD was a moderate success. 32X was an immediate failure, but not big enough to ruin the company. Saturn wasn't marketed properly in America at all, lack of quality software, no Sonic. That's what ultimately caused Sega's downfall even with the success of the Dreamcast. It's a shame because Saturn had a leg up on everybody with the launch date and all.
>>332458089
too bad no one fucking KNEW about it back in 1995. yeah, lets announce that our new console will be in stores on the day of our E3 conference and mags won't be able to print this info for at least 1 month!
>>332458089
I think the lack of Sonic (besides 3D Blast and R) is overstated. What fucked over the Saturn the most was having a needlessly complicated internal hardware caused by focusing on 2D and then tacking on 3D capabilities too late after they realized everyone else was going 3D. After a generation where they marketed themselves as being on the cutting edge compared to Nintendo they ended up holding themselves back and not keeping with the times. Better marketing and Sonic would've just been polishing a turd.
>>332458089
>It's a shame because Saturn had a leg up on everybody with the launch date and all.
the launch surprise was probably the main reason it bombed actually. Nevermind Sonic, nevermind the fact that the PS cost less. It got pushed out entirely too early so hype couldn't build, games couldn't get made on time for its launch or launch window, some retailers were pissed since they didn't have advance notice, etc.
Someone post screens of the hub world of Sonic Jam.
It was a collection of Genesis Sonic games but the hub world was a fully 3D environment, not like the Xtreme test footage. I feel like this is how a fully realized 3D Sonic game would turn out on Saturn.
>>332458578
You're right, I forgot that it was supposedly a nightmare to work with. I believe it's graphics processor couldn't render polygons correctly because they invested in some other arcane 3d technology. I still think a lack of a major Sonic game did play a significant factor in the Saturn's drop in market share in the US. Imagine if Nintendo never released Super Mario 64 or OoT and instead they'd just release stuff like Starfox 64 and F-Zero X. That's kinda what the Saturn equivalent would have been.
>>332458968
That stuff was literally their initial prototypes for Sonic Adventure when it was still being made for Saturn.
>>332451074
Fucking retard in either brain processing or comedic ability
>>332459587
>Imagine if Nintendo never released Super Mario 64 or OoT and instead they'd just release stuff like Starfox 64 and F-Zero X
Except no, because both of those series at least started and enjoyed a ton of success on the SNES.
Saturn 1st party support was mostly original IPs or arcade ports of new IPs, so it would be more like if Nintendo only put out stuff like Sin and Punishment, Doshin the Giant, Animal Crossing, and Custom Robo.
>>332457320
Look up Sonic Xtreme on rule 34, I don't remember
>>332449338
Man, that game was a disappointment.
>>332460424
I meant generally no 3D platformers or action adventure games. A system with nothing but first party developed 3D arcade style shooters and racing games.
