So Blizzard was forced to remove this pose of Tracer from Overwatch because it is too sexualized.
People protested, sent them many angry emails, there was some forum raid and they removed it to calm the masses.
I for one feel really sad that this is happening. The pose isnt even particularly extreme.
I really, really wish video games would start being considered an art so we can get away with saying "its expressing the character's inner strengths" or something.
>>332428359
>was forced
No. They decided to remove it, because someone wrote a forum post.
>>332428359
Nothing was forced.
They just decided to be faggots and remove it because it hurt someone's fee fees.
Censorship in any for of media, even one as menial ad bidya, is horrible.overwatch is really bad though
>>332428559
That posthttp://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743015583?page=1was just the last straw that broke the camel's back.
There have been other posts for months, about WoW armor too and even Hearthstone cards art, this one is only getting famous because its the one that caused a reaction.
I didn't know about this character this morning, and know I've fapped 2 times watching her getting fucked by dogs
So I'm happy this happened
>>332428883
Turns out most people on /v/ arent hyped for the game, but the models are making their rounds through the SFM roulette.
>>332428359
>>332428780
>muh daughter bs
Eh.
>>332429676
The majority of Battlenet posters agree though. Very, very few protest, and they are quickly humbled by responses from people supporting the changes.
>>332429676
>>332429830
Anyway, the pose isnt unique to that character, is a generic human pose.
>>332429830
>>332429150
>>332428359
Maybe instead of making threads on /v/ (or in addition to) you should combat them on there
>>332429830
>She's a fun, non serious character
>Therefore treat her like a child
Oh boy.
>>332429959
Last time I spoke out against the circle jerk I was through out of my guild for being a sexist pig.
Havent posted on the forums since, other than asking for support once. Dont mean to start again.
This thread is meant to be me stroking my hateboner for Battlenet forums, actually. But also informative news for you lot.
Not that many people here care for the game. I think it will be fun, but then again I am a Blizzdrone.
>>332430250
We should treat these people as children, i.e. not listen to anything they have to say and ignore them. Fucking dumbshits
I don't even play neo blizzard shit, but it'll keep getting worse everywhere, won't it? In 15 years teens will feel bad about having a boner
>>332428359
Don't worry they fixed it.
>tfw only person in the planet that apparently finds tracer not attractive at all
her legs look like fruit rollups and she has no ass.
>>332429830
That's completely untrue. Most people there disagree and are very vocal. Some of them are doing the whole "muh swj" thing which I don't think helps at all. But a lot of people are just saying they liked the pose and are annoyed to see it go that quickly because of one thread, when countless of other topic adressing real issues aren't getting any response
>>332429830
>finding tracer, a 26 year old with fucking godlike curves, hot is "gross"
I can smell the grease emanating from that post.
>>332430583
see >>332429150
I havent edited this, those are the exact responses following the statement, in this order.
Most others are like those. Jeff, we agree with you, you know best.
One of the most retarded parts of some of the forum complaints are how people are saying they don't wanna expose their children to it or some shit.
The game's fucking rated T for Teen and even says "MAY CONTAIN CONTENT INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN" on footage and it's the games problem that you can't stick your kid in front of it rather than being an actual fucking parent.
>>332429935
Real talk: the Hanzo pose fits the character. Stop being a sourpuss baby SHIT. It wasn't about the pose being SEXI it was about it being out of character. Widow could diddle herself with a 10 inch futa COCK and no one would care because it fits her character. Tracer is mentally a child (check the lore videos...) and for her to act like that is offputting unless you're a strait white PEDOPHILE.
>>332429830
Most posters agree? Wow all I saw was people saying this is ridiculous. So many people, in fact, that they opened up the thread for debate again.
>>332428359
>>332430715
new generation of the people who buy GTA for their 12 year old then complain about kids having access to games with guns and tits. only this time they're only slightly, SLIGHTLY more aware.
the giant rating stickers on boxes still eludes them though, that'll take another two or three generations.
once augmented eyeballs are a thing.
>>332430790
Stop trying so hard.
>>332430790
Obnoxious baiting aside, he's right.
>>332430926
Its a picture used for a PCGamer article. I didnt take the screenshot.
Others may have used the same image to create their own threads.
Stop seeking conspiracy theories everywhere, lad. We are neither smart enough, nor motivated enough to do what you accuse us of.
>>332430689
Now read the last page, it's full of people complaining
If everybody agreed, the thread would have died off quickly, but it's still going strong
>>332429150
can you please link me to this post?
>>332430949
THICKER
>>332429150
>oh no one guy got upset, better change everything
>we wanted to change it anyway we swear
>we know some will get upset at the change but FUCK YOU
>>332431305
I guess people from other communities (4chan reddit) joined later, the core Battlenet posts arent hard to spot.
I am reading through the thread right now, havent gotten to the later pages.
>>332431316http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20743015583?page=11#post-211
>>332428359
That pose does literally nothing for me. It just sucks.
Also doesn't fit the character.
Be happy they're changing it.
>>332430790
If she is really like that, why would they give her pants to show off her ass in the first place?
>>332429935
>Layers of baggy cloth hiding his ass and true proportions of his lower body
>i-it's the same thing!
Why do fantasy people need to be treated like real people? I think most people can tell the difference between fantasy and reality
This isn't going to turn into the new hot coffee is it? I mean I guess Western devs are neutered now. I mean I collected cards of nude bitches I fucking nutted in playing Witcher, fucking six years ago. Jesus Christ.
>Widowmaker was supposed to be a slut so it's fine
>Tracer is supposed to be a sweet, naive, innocent, happy and fun woman with possible child level of intelligence
>you can't sexualize her because it doesn't suit her because I don't see her that way
>think of the children
Basically it's as if Blizz told that guy his waifu was a whore.
>>332431643
Disney logic.
>>332428359
The only positive thing is all the butt-related r34 this will generate.
Seeing that the rule34 was the only good thing about this game in the first place, it's a clear win for us as far as I can see.
>>332431830
Because fat people don't enjoy being reminded of how disgusting they are.
>>332428780
we need to purge fags and bitches from playing games seriously this is fucking pathetic, or can we have a separate fully testosterone filled gaming company again, Blizzard wasnt made on Diverse games they got famaous by making naked elves and shit, this is just bullshit
>>332428359
>>332431619
>Reddit is bitching about sexy Tracer
>Neofag is bitching about sexy Tracer
>/v/ is bitching about sexy Tracer
>battlenet forums are bitching about sexy Tracer
>literally fucking everyone is bitching about sexy Tracer
I literally can't get away from it, guys. I might kill myself over this because I need that plump ass in my life.
>>332428359
so far almost every angry reblog about that overwatch ass pose has been from someone who reblogs porn
amusingly, one of them was from someone who makes overwatch porn in sfm
sky is blue water is wet fire burns etc
I thought Jeff removed the pose because it wasn't fit of Tracer character (which is true), and took that landwhale post as a chance to remove it
>>332431643
Probably some futuristic, lightweight armor purpose. Little girls like wearing stockings as it anyways.
>>332430790
>>332431248
That's same OP in every thread by their own admission.
>>332429150
Hopw can I respond to thisguy? He needs to understand that when his Daughter is out at the MAll and she is wearing the legit same shit tight ass pants or tights, motherfuckers are going to be looking into that womb, fucking faggot
I feel like this is less about censorship and more about them trying to avoid the wrath of the SJW. That smartest move is to quickly appease them so they'll move on to the next mildly offensive thing. I mean when the uneducated, belligerent masses decide they don't like your thing, they're gonna destroy that thing.
Or give it some bad press anyway.
>>332430790
>strait white PEDOPHILE
Redundant statement is redundant.
>>332430790
Unless she is acting like a child and emulating the adults around her...
>>332431828
Nice Strawman.
The anon you replied to, said that it's not a unique post. but here is (you)
>>332431619
>Doesn't fit the character
HAHAHAHAHAHA Bait harder newfag
SOCIAL JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE
>>332429830
>The majority of Battlenet posters agree though
Don't lie. Most posts are pointing out how ridicules changing a "pose" because 1 person complained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP142FojQtk
>>332430790
You came here from reddit didn't you?
It's just an ass shot. Asses are nice. Tracer has a nice ass. Removing it is stupid.
>>332432370
>>332430949
THICK
I've said it in other threads so I'll just repeat it here:
this isn't about censorship, it's about characterization. tracer is played off as a hyper, innocent, fun woman, and the pose doesn't fit her character. widowmaker flaunts her sexuality and finds power in it, so the pose would be fine for her. it's about writing and context.
this is like a dev erasing a scene where batman shoots twenty people, and people complaining that that's gun censorship.
you don't understand the issue or even care about the game, you just bandwagon on the sjw bogeyman train.
>>332431980
>tracer
>plump ass
what
It's pretty tiny
>>332430790
>>332432559
Tracer is mentally a child. This is the friggin opposite of the 10,000 year old loli. By your own freaking logic , the ass wiggle shouldn't be okay...
>mind of an adult, body of a child
>okay
>mind of a child, body of a... well, closer to a teen really
>NOT OKAY
>>332430790
Her character is that she likes to go fast, and this is enabled by her long/athletic legs and backpack-accelerator. The pose shows off both of those things. Her butt just happens to be in view.
>>332432635
hyper active giorl is still a girl and girls are gonna atention seek wherever possible
>>332432635
>Batman doesn't use guns
he pretty clearly does in the newest movie
>>332432635
Then why is she wearing an outfit that shows off her ass? This argument makes no sense
>>332432635
>>332432635
Question: would it have been a problem if Tracer wore cargo pants?
>>332428359
>in b4 people claim this is "fake controversy" to deflect the blame from SJWs getting yet another game censored
>>332432635
Because only women who define themselves around their sexuality are allowed to be hot?
You are terrible at being a feminist.
Blizzard has the right to change anything about their product to increase sales or PR, this got them more money, /v is only against this because they hate capitalism and want to masturbate.
>>332432186
I thought that too.
They would rather risk enraging a lot of people by quickly bending over for that guy as long as they can hide behind the sjw shield. They don't want to risk pissing off some feminist landwhale with a blog and and a bunch of beta faggots orbiting her. Not to mention gaming "journalists" would never stand on the side of the customer unless it's some PC bullshit so even if people complain they can report it as entitlement or power fantasies or whatever again and that blizzard was right.
>That pose is out of character for that lithe sexy girl wearing extremely thin pants hugging every crevice of her rear-end!
>No one's forcing them to remove it, they'd just have their names dragged through the mud by yellow journo clickbait rags for failing to abide by our agenda! If that's what they wanna do, they're free to do so!
>It's not censorship if it's not by the government!
>Wow guys way to waste a bunch of your time complaining about something meaningless, unlike those people wasting their time complaining about something meaningless in an effort to get it removed, and unlike an impartial observer such as myself wasting a bunch of my time complaining about you wasting a bunch of your time complaining about someone wasting a bunch of their time complaining about something meaningless!! Just play some video games!
Keep causing a big stink /v/, and don't let anyone try to stop you. They're afraid of you getting your way.
>>332428359
>too sexualized
So what?
What's exactly the problem with that?
>>332432792
This image has never applied, and never will.
GGcunts are so desperate to paint everyone into "us vs them".
>>332432635
This would be true if she were a well written character.
She isnt. There are clear conflicts here. She looks and acts like the foxy lady, like she is 35. She is said to be a 26 year old virginal child. These dont mix well.
If Blizzard want her to be a grown up babby, they should work on her suit and movement, because right now she was clearly meant to be a classier sexy girl, to mirror the slutty sexy girl on the opposite team that they had her fight in the trailer.
>Generic soldier man
Why the fuck is he so cool.
He shouldn't be cool.
https://youtu.be/Zy8TM1LAtS8
>>332429935
Needs more slutty Hanzo poses
>>332433045
I don't understand either, he seems so boring compared to the others and yet he's all I'm looking forward to
>>332433045
it's the jacket
>>332432635
>bogeyman
The SJW pronounce it "boogerman", in case you were going for a more authentic presentation.
Thank you God for not making me a numale thank you
>>332432635
>>332432890
20/10
>>332433028
>She is said to be a 26 year old virginal child
Where is this shit coming from? Is it a troll or is that actually blizzard lore?
The pose is just her turned around, she isn't specifically sticking her ass out or anything so I wouldn't say she's purposely showing her body off.
The thing is if they were really concerned about doing anything remotely sexy with her then why the fuck did they decide to make her wear skin tight yellow trousers that give you such a great view of her ass. It's hard to accept they removed it because showing off her body isn't in character when her clothing inherently does that.
>>332432017
It's the other way around.
Jeff is pandering to that one vocal idiot and made that 'it didn't fit her character, so we removed it' excuse as a copout. If he thought it didn't fit from the start, he would've not included it in the first place.
>>332433045
In a game where almost everyone has its own playstale, he truly stands out as being the generic fps hero
Tracers butt is too tiny
Just make it a little bigger
There's a very easy solution:
Make as much Tracer porn as possible and tag it in a way that it shows up first when you search, "tracer overwatch".
It probably won't aid the situation at all, but it would make me weekends more enjoyable.
>>332433045
>human looking hairline
>normal leather jacket instead of power armor
>reasonable color scheme that you can see someone wearing outside
He just looks reasonable and believable. They should make his boots normal leather boots and remove the extra belts, and he will be fine in a realistic setting.
>>332432635
>think of the chilluns! post
>blizzard quickly caves
yeah, right
>>332432635
>tracer is played off as a hyper, innocent, fun woman, and the pose doesn't fit her character.
You don't think a fun character wouldn't be interested in having fun by being flirty?
Do you think sex isn't fun or something?
I mean, Taokaka is dumb as a rock, fits a lot of the same checkboxes as tracer, and has a butt pose and no one cares.
People are sexualized, because people are sexy, which is how we ended up with 7 billion of them, half of which are going to flaunt their asses in their lives trying to get a dick inside of it. It's denying her sexuality and part of her humanity as a human being.
>>332428359
No, people protested AFTER it was removed.
>>332433238
It makes you wonder if these people aren't actually suffering from some kind of toxin in the water or something.
Maybe Infowars was right all along...
>>332433418
Like I said earlier, that is all that is going to come of this, and that's a good thing.
>>332428359
>>332433508
At this point i wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.
>>332433558
MALE
POWER
FANTASY
>tfw all the girls (both younger and older, regardless of the relation) I know play vidya
>tfw the ones who would potentially get offended by Tracer's ass typically stick to casual phone games and puzzles
>tfw the ones who actually play games on console and PC don't give a shit about sexy women and instead demand more sexy men
The whole WE MUST MAKE GAYMAN MORE INCLUSIVE BY REMOVING TITS AND ASS controversy is just dudes trying to make themselves look holier than thou
>>332433418
You.
I like you.
>>332428359
They weren't forced. They decided to remove it after being asked if it fit the character.
If you need porn in games, go grab Dead or Alive or titty ninjas. If you need porn, well, you're on the internet and this site has porn.
Get over it lol
>>332433374
In all honesty, Jeff's handling of the whole situation is what made it get so bad as quickly as it did. If he would've made his second post first, people still would've been unhappy, but it'd be far more believable than him waiting half a day to explain himself.Tracer anal porn backlash when?
>>332433487
Olympian-tier mental gymnastics
>>332428359
game will be shit nevertheless
>>332433359
Its not outright stated, but is heavily implied by the writer in his posts on Battlenet.
>>332433241
I dunnosorry
The Overwatch girls are shit tier anyway
All the husbandos are fun as fuck to play
This whole thing is because people can't agree on what sexy and innocent is.
The superbug plague can't come fast enough.
>>332432186
Why worry about the rage of people who had no intention of buying your game though? Not everyone has to like every game.
>>332433558
Barbie also teaches women to be passive, He man teaches men to be competitive, this isn't a hard concept to grasp.
>>332433487
I think getting cucked one week before his wedding broke his mind. I used to like Danny, but introduce any "issue" with a vagina and he throws all reason out the window.
I'm a guy. That's right, a guy gamer.
Sometimes when someone is standing behind me I'll instinctively look over my shoulder to look at them. I'm a very stoic, innocent, unsexy guy gamer, am I being out of character when I do this?
>>332433696
You know what's not innocent?
Killing people.
>>332433624
>implying he gets to write blizzard's damage control
>>332429935
Someone really needs to teach /v/ composition 101 at some point... after perspective 101 and anatomy 101.
But to diverge. The way Tracer is int that pose draws the eye to her ass, which is heavily emphesised especially there. It pops too much and the eye is guided towards it. It's a weird pose too as Hanzo's is reasonably static like he's actually just looking behind him, while tracer is very actively posing. It's weird.
>>332432635
And I said it in every thread and I say it again.
It only bothered that one guy because for some reason he decided that Tracer isn't allowed to show her butt because it didn't suit HIS perception of Tracer. Who is he to say what hyper, innocent fun woman can or cannot do. She's fun so she can be confident, playful and flirty. If she's innocent and oblivious she can show her butt unknowingly.
Then he went on and said that because she had that pose AND because Widowmaker, who's supposed to be a slut according to him, had the same pose, it automatically means that Blizzard was sexualizing Tracer ON PURPOSE to sell more copies.
Then he went on to muh daughter bullshit.
Basically Blizzard told him his waifu wasn't as perfect as he thought so he cried about it.
>>332433696
Is it not possible to be both innocent and sexy/sexual?
Since when did innocent = asexual?
>>332433045
He reminds me of a good ol' Visor.
>>332433850
Since puritanism
>>332433787
Not true. According to some, killing police is acceptable in a certain context because they are part of an institution that harms PoC's and is inherently racist. Also killing fascists and pedophiles to name a few.
>>332433787
I'll admit. I love my country, but I absolutely cannot shake the feeling that we have our priorities in fiction messed up beyond repair. Only in America is shooting each other fine, but Heaven forbid a woman shows you the back half of her body.
>>332433840
>two men arguing about an issue that doesn't affect them
nu-males.
>>332432416
that actually looks pretty fucking cool. Should be a skin.
>>332433840
Holy fucking shit
>>332431619
It absolutely does if you listen to her talk for more than 5 seconds
Tracer is a fun and easy going character who wouldn't be above a little playful flirting
>>332433850
Becuase you can't just be universally innocent, saying innocent is short hand for "innocent in the ways of X"
what horrible times we live in, im going to horde all the good sexy vidya i can so i can be prepared in 60 years when the world caliphate is overthrown and, i will be a sexy vidya librarian for the ages and people will thank me for the preservation of the early 2000s accomplishments.
So, which of the boards has an ongoing Tracer porn thread? I need to know for research purposes.
>>332429935
Widowmaker has that pose too, and her ass features prominently. I doubt she'll get censored though, it fits her much better, and frankly she looks cooler.
>Blizzard listening to whiny little assholes
What else is new?
They are well known for listening to the butthurt minority too much and it will and is happening to Overwatch
LOL at Blizzard pretending to give a shit lol
>>332432635
they didn't go far enough
>>332434132
Why not press both buttons
>>332434092
this, and why? because you will buy it anyway. BUT if they might gain even one sale out of these assholes they will.
>took no interest in overwatch rule34 at the start of today
>have an unquenchable thirst for tracer's ass now
thanks blizzard
>>332433558
>tfw people I know tried to debunk the He-Man comparison until I explained that his biceps would have a circumference of over 70 inches
By comparison, Hulk Hogan at his biggest had 24 inch biceps.
>>332433840
What is he trying to say? The pose is rape but not really because she doesn't have an anime ass? Am I just retarded?
>>332433838
Thats cool and all, but they are literally using the same skeleton to make both poses. They are mathematically identical.
>>332432635
Sooo easy to tell who was friendless in highschool and never talked with a lot of girls.
>>332433840
>Sexy poses cause rape!
Holy fucking shit, I thought people stopped using this shit in the early 90's when it was roundly debunked
>>332434254
>not having burkas in all videogames
That is islamophobic.
>>332434347
>too much butt causes men to rape women in real life
>but don't worry violence is fine
![Overwatch-Tracer-04[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kcyCgXb.jpg "Overwatch-Tracer-04[1].jpg")
>>332432635
The thing most people are getting confused about here:
IT'S NOT ABOUT HER ASS BEING SEXY.
Sure, the dumb faggot from the original thread was complaining about that. But from >>332429150
The whole point they're making isn't
>we don't want her being sexy to offend people
it's
>we didn't like the pose internally either and have a better one in mind
His initial response in the thread was a really retarded way to word it, but it's much clearer that that is the case in his more thorough follow-up.
>B-but it's just pandering/backtracking/conspiracy
>>332429935
Look at that shit. It's clearly just a generic pose they applied to many humans they couldn't think of a good pose for. Mcree's got it as well, same for Widowmaker.
I want to see what the new pose they had in mind is at this point.
Frankly, I'm surprised so many of them have such a boring poses. Tracer's second pose in pic related is just as boring and bland.
Give her a pose where she's like, jogging in place or zipping around into different generic poses or something more dynamic.
>>332434254
>check twitter
>burka picture has more positive feedback than the original post
lel
>>332434132
That's not the same thing.
Censoring sexualization and objectification of women is a good thing that helps little boys and men see women as people and not animals.
Censoring queer/gay content harms the acceptance of gay and other non-straight people.
Censorship is a force for good when used right and on the right things.
>>332434360
So why is Hanzos hand in a completely different position with completely different values all over and different colours and in general being a completely different stance if they're identical?
Why don't we just euthanize all the numales? It's not racism or sexism see, because they're white.
It's a win-win scenario I tell ya.
Wen even TotalBiscunt is making fun of you, you know you fucked up.
>>332434254
>legs spread that far apart
That whore is getting stoned
>>332434573
reminder that this is what SJWs actually believe
>>332434531
>>332434531
>we didn't like the pose internally either and have a better one in mind
>actually believing this
>>332434573
lol (You)
>>332434629
The best part is he exposed his very dedicated fanbase to Blizzard being faggots. This situation isn't getting defused any time soon.
>>332433487
Danny out of all fucking people defending this shit?
>>332434573
>men are naturally programmed to rape/are trained to become rapists by being exposed to sexual imagery
fuck off misandrist
I've been reading playboys since I was 5 and I sure as fuck haven't raped anyone
>>332434573
The separation of church and state hurts Muslims who have a greater right to practice their religion than other theists because they have been disfranchised by the west
>>332434745
Danny spergged out hard about Quiet in MGSV. He wrote like a fucking thesis about how triggered he was and that it set feminism back by like 40 years.
He's had a dog in the SJW-race for basically ever.
>>332432635
>women isnt sexy
wahtever fag
If Jeff had used his second response as his original, no one would have given a shit.
"Hey, we saw this thread. We know the pose is out of place and we've already got a new one to replace it. The pose just didn't fit her character and looked awkward. Sorry if you found it offensive."
>>332434573
Thats great Orwell is this going to be in you sequel to 1984, "Its Current Year".
>>332433840
I thought he was the only decent guy at Gamespot
>>332433838
Any way of drawing her emphasizes her ass, it's her design. You can't have that outfit without drawing attention to her ass/hips.
It's not a weird pose either, except for her arch but that's always there. The difference is she rotates her body. You'll naturally put more weight on one leg doing so to avoid fucking with your knees. Try it, and shut the fuck up about things you don't understand.
>>332434919
>he isn't decent because he is against rape
>>332434573
But what if tracer is a lesbian and her pose was just her expressing her sexual individuality?
>>332434531
The issue I take with it is that in his initial post, he states (Or very heavily alludes to) that they will be removing the pose as not to offend anyone.
Then later, the clarifies by saying it was going to be removed anyway because they didn't like it.
Why make the first post then? And why word it in that way? One of two things is happening:
1 - They are pandering, and are now back-pedaling in order to seems as though they aren't.
2 - They were not pandering and legitimately were planning to remove it prior to the post, but saw it as an opportunity to get "SJW Points" and thus made the initial statement.
Neither option is particularly attractive to me, and it makes me feel pretty disgruntled.
I just dont understand anymore... why does this keep happening? What the fuck is so sexualized about her pose? Her ass isnt even made to look big in that pose. Why dont they just go ahead and disable any camera angles that show her from the back also while theyre at it..
>>332435018
equating fantasy images with real actual rape makes him an inherently indecent person yes
>>332435018
That's some weak bait, anon. Out of common courtesy, please try harder next time.
>>332435069
Third person shooters are mysoginistic.
>>332434573
(you) earned this
>>332435069
Now that people have successfully lobbied against tits and misogynistic they're going after ass
I bet you assfags thought you were safe, huh?
>>332429830
>>332429150
>Going into the echo chamber that is the battlenet forums WILLINGLY.
That is a unique kind of retardation.
>>332434985
Correct. Those things coupled with that pose will always create that effect. That's why the pose is the problem if we accept the design is fine (it is).
>>332432732
>OH NO! BUTTS!
Why are people so retarded? Butt is a thing. Sex is a thing. Why try to hide it? It's not healthy you know. Not even for kids.
>>332435069
Nothing. A stupid guy made a stupid post and it just happened that he was complaining about a pose that was shitty anyway to blizzard was planning on removing it anyway but they didn't say so at first so everybody assumed blizzard was pandering to feminists (they really aren't, they throw in as many ass as possible in all their games) and hell broke lose.
As long as they didn't remove Tracer's dick I am fine with it.
>>332435069
A company thought they could make more money by doing a thing.
Everyone's acting like this is some huge deal, if blizzards customer base doesn't want a thing in the game, blizzard will most likley remove it, Blizzard want money, they're merged with fucking activision, you think they give a shit about this? They made a change to net more dosh.
>>332435394
they're literally removing asses
Widowmaker's ass was made smaller recently
>>332434254
>can still tell she has hips
Jesus Christ.
Why do people like this exist anyway
This whole SJW thing is so overblown, THEY ARENT TAKING AWAY YOUR GAMES GAMERGOOBERS
GUYS
OH NO
I'VE MADE A TERRIBLE DISCOVERY
SOMEONE POST THIS ONE THE OVERWATCH FORUMS
THE CHARACTER IS RUINED
>>332435352
Not everything has to be sex, some things can be lesser for including it you know.
>>332428359
There's literally nothing wrong with Blizzard removing this pose. It's not how / envision the character so that means it must be changed. I can't have my wife's daughter being exposed to such an objectifying pose while she's playing a teen rated game online where everyone will be calling each other faggots. Bravo, Blizzard.
>>332433181
He's like that one guy who went to the convention and decided to not cosplay and turned out to be nerdier, more fun and more well-adjusted than everyone else you met at the convention
>>332428359
The issue isn't that the content was removed.
The problem is how easily Blizzard caved to SJW demands.
Game developers used to be able to simply tell people that didn't like their game not to play it. That would be okay, too. After all, it's their game.
Now though, the games media joins the offended SJWs in putting pressure on the game devs to change their content or remove it. The games media threatens game devs with bad publicity regularly.
Think back to the 1.5/10 Jed Whitaker gave DOAX3. The game is much better than any game reviewer will admit because they're pushing a narrative.
Jed Whitaker has a DeepFreeze page.
http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php?j=jed_whitaker
>>332435394
Except for his original response not being "yeah we were going to fix it anyway" but "sorry, we don't want to offend anyone, we'll do better next time." It's obvious he was trying to save his ass after the uproar that happened
>>332434738
Must be nice having an army of autistic kids.
>>332432416
I unironically like this more than the actual design.
>>332435586
MY EYES
>>332435586
DELETE THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>332435052
Or, he made a really dumbly worded short post on an internet forum that erupted into misunderstanding and he later apologized and clarified with a longer post.
What else could he do at that point? Are you saying you wouldn't explain yourself better if you said something that sounded retarded to a massive public?
>>332434689
>I clearly know what the development team as a whole feels about this
Nigga, do you even like the pose?
Seriously, that pose is supposed to be a paid for content thing. A different victory pose than the generic "I'm standing here" pose.
Compare "Over the Shoulder" with shit like Bastions or, more directly as a human female in spandex, D.Va's poses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB4J3uB2j58
They change shit up a lot and have character quirk to them. They're actually interesting poses.
Then you got "over the shoulder" and shit like Hanzo's "Confident" pose. Those poses look dull as fuck, especially considering you have to BUY them.
Like I said, tracer's thing is her blinking power right? So have her sitting pose replace the "over the shoulder"seriously, how the fuck is that sitting pose supposed to be the more expensive one when Bastion turns into a fucking tank?and make her expensive pose kinda like Luigi's taunt in Smash: her taking a bunch of poses and blinking between them.
>>332433045
WE'RE ALL SOLDIERS NOW FUCCBOI
>>332435586
It is now your responsibility to force your conservative opinions on the rest of the community and persuade Blizzard to remove that pose.
>>332435652
If they actually did have sometihng else made already that wasn't in the game, odds are the reason it wasn't in the game is because they were afraid of backlash from changing it. So hearing people say "I don't like this" was the trigger to go "okay cool we can change it"
That's just how I imagine it being myself.
See? This is the kind of shit that made me fully hate Blizzard. Mostly their utter incompetence as a dev but still.
I'm going for Battleborn to get my hero shooter fix this summer.
Least it offers a fucking SP and actually seems to offer depth.
>>332435274
>it's a weird pose
>tracer is very actively posing
>it being a natural movement is correct
Well, which is it?
She's also looking at a greater angle, and has her head reclines.
It's an anatomically sound pose, there's nothing fucking weird about it. Nor is there about a pose emphasizing her ass, since her entire fucking outfit is designed to do so.
>>332435586
We have to change this. Where's the online petition?!
>>332428359
>that is deemed too sexy
>entire "video games" whose only purpose of existing is looking at jiggling breasts like Senran Kagura and DoAX are okay
fuck everything
>>332434054
>good sexy vidya
porn exists, and if you were a big enough market or were willing to spend a shit load of money, more "good exy vidya" would exist
>>332435586
>>332435772
Oh, scratch that then. They're all cheap poses.
Still, even for cheap poses the over the shoulder is a dull pose.
>>332433558
that picture still doesn't work. The point feminists was making with the barbie model is that every female cartoon looks like a barbie princess - while boys grow up with a variety of role models that are more approved for their skills rather than their looks. Also>>332433712
But this thing with Tracer is so fucking dumb because I have girls in my class that look like Tracer - appearantly they would be censored in a videogame because some guy with playing Overwatch can't handle tight clothings on actual human beings
>>332428359
In all honesty, the pose is pretty boring and generic. I wouldn't be surprised if they had been working on a different pose already. She has the same pose as the men.
Every character should have the same pose or every character should have a unique one.
>SJWs turning their ire towards Overwatch
Maybe now they'll leave League of Legends alone
>>332435854
It being sound when coupled with the design can lead to the pose being a bit out of place "narratively" what's not to get?
>>332428359
This is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy8TM1LAtS8
>>332428359
That's fine I won't buy it for sure now, simple as that. Fuck blizz they don't do anything worthwhile anymore anyways.
Into the fucking trash this goes
Fucking blizzard catering the sjws
>>332435586
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I'M LITERALLY SHAKING
>>332433710
Fucking this. Developers have to stop pandering to an entire audience or your game is just going to fall apart. Go for your specific players and sell it. I swear SJWs are justbuttingtheir heads into games because they're so bored with their lives. And wouldn't this be technically body shaming the character? Can't we use that shit against them?
>>332428780
>about WoW armor
So these are the fags responsible for the shit designs we have now?
Fucking disgusting.
>>332435586
Someone needs to go post this on the blizz forums. Burn it all down.
>>332435930
Doubt it, they infected GW2 a few years ago and never left. Now one of the largest guilds is a cis banned only gender queers guild.
>>332428359
>forced
>guy makes a post saying that it doesnt suit her character
>Blizzard replies "You know what, you're right. Lets remove it."
>>332435586
>game comes out
>tracer has no victory poses
Then they came for ass—and there was no one left to speak for me
>>332435772
>Or, he made a really dumbly worded short post on an internet forum that erupted into misunderstanding and he later apologized and clarified with a longer post.
>What else could he do at that point? Are you saying you wouldn't explain yourself better if you said something that sounded retarded to a massive public?
>FoV and killfeed
>3+ months to be recognized as fucked up
>female ass
>3 days to be recognized as fucked up
>not to mention 1 had tons of people complaining while the other one as literally a single person
>it's not pandering to SJWs
Pic is you dreaming of getting a facial by Blizz big black microphone.
>>332435586
URGE TO RAPE RISING, I LITERALLY CAN'T CONTROL MYSELF
IF ONLY SOMEONE PROTECTED ME FROM MYSELF BY CENSORING THIS FILTH
>>332435586
Holy christ please let this situation get out of hand
I want to see this blow up in their face so fucking bad.
Seriously if they have another pose they could oh gee i don't fucking know PUT BOTH POSES IN THE GAME MAYBE.
>>332435586
Shhhhhhh don't tell them.
It's obvious why that guy hasn't complained about that pose because you need to turn the camera for that. And for that you actually need to play the fucking game which the guy obviously hasn't played. He just saw the over the shoulder pose with it's back turned to you by default and got offended. He even says his daughter watches the cgi trailer, not him playing the game or watching tracer in game.
Tracer's interesting enough that the ass towards the camera pose is just kinda boring, i mean i suppose the best case scenario would be to keep it in but if blizzard wants to take it out then that's their choice.
>>332428883
post pictures
I dont get it.
Is this conservative or SJW censorship?
I cannot tell anymore.
>>332435594
Yes, but is just a butt being there is enough to go full censor mode and remove it? I don't agree. It's not like she was making a lewd face or something and even then I don't see a problem.
>Not everything has to be sex
But it's not a problem when they sometimes are, I think.
>>332436473
I thought the pose only plays from one angle at the end of the match, as in you can't move it.
Have you got into beta?
It's a fucking pose you get if you win a match, do these cunts seriously expect me to believe it's some kind of massive confliction with her character?
Is she that one dimensional?
The only possible reasoning for it's removal is pandering.
>>332435950
That has nothing to do with perspective, anatomy, or anything else you mentioned in your post. You're blatantly backtracking. Don't pretend to know things you don't just to play at being an authority, you smug poser piece of shit.
A summary of events as they happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26lD6Np5KfI
Famous games made by SJWs:
>Half-Life 2
>Fallout: New Vegas
>Warcraft III
Famous games made by anti-SJWs:
>Hatred
>Ethnic Cleansing
>Giopi: Mission Majority
Any questions?
I'm so glad only shitty companies like Blizzard and various other devs are affected by social justice. Notice how none of the best developers self-censor, or give into SJW demands.
Blizzard once again keeps a good record of making absolutely NOTHING of value.
Can't wait for this, the Warcraft movie, and that "expansion" to flop.
2016 is the end of the line for this Blizzard gravy train.
>>332436708
can you please end your life?
>>332435772
"We'll replace the pose. We want *everyone* to feel strong and heroic in our community. The last thing we want to do is make someone feel uncomfortable, under-appreciated or misrepresented.
Apologies and we'll continue to try to do better."
That is not "dumbly worded". That is a message that conveys the reason they were removing the pose was due to the issues raised in the post it was replying to. It isn't "misconstrued" by the community.
What he then posted later heavily contrasts with his first reply, and I don't like it one bit.
>>332436546
This is what's currently being called, the 'regressive left'. They're basically authoritarians seeking to force their views under the guise of feminism.
I say this as someone who typically votes to the left.
I don’t think sexualization is bad. What I actually think is pretty stupid: when the vast majority of women in games happen to have sexualization as their primary aspect, when it’s clearly the thing that was thought about their design first and foremost.
Now, sure, you’re free to disagree with the assertion that it’s the state that most female characters are in. You could say that it’s a larger societal problem and something not limited to video games. But here’s the thing: media does not exist in a vacuum. What we consume leaves a little trace inside us, all the time. And after all, if you want to see change, you gotta start somewhere.
I, for one, would love to see women in games that are as varied, multi-faceted and different as men get to be. I would ALSO like to see less men that are the “5-o-clock beard, brown-haired white guy in his late twenties, with a dark trouble past” type of protagonist. Both of these desires are not mutually exclusive; improving video games as a medium is not a zero-sum game.
And hey, guess what: when female characters in video games become more varied, it’s not suddenly weird anymore for some of them to be a sexualized archetype. I’m gonna say this again since sometimes it falls on hard ears: sexualization is not inherently bad, but for it to seemingly be the default state of female characters is bad.
I don’t think that’s such an unreasonable position to have… right?
This is also not about everyone (quoting from memory) putting on gender-neutral gray suits, or neutering our libidos, or caving in to the “trans-ethnic attack helicopters”, or whatever. No. It was Blizzard seeking feedback, getting that feedback, agreeing with it and acting on it. Period.
>>332433028
This anon is correct. It's not just sluts that can be sexy, you know, AND there is nothing wrong with legs, butts and sexuality in fictional characters.
![lucio-victory-pose-2-confident[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/C72lg9G.png "lucio-victory-pose-2-confident[1].png")
>>332435910
Really, a lot of the human poses are really boring and generic.
I mean, look at this shit. The only Lucio pose that's at all interesting or character related is his "grooving" one that is 3x more expensive than his other two that are just him standing with his arms in different positions.
Meanwhile, Winston has 3 great poses: BEASTMODE (75), him adjusting his glasses disapprovingly like my animu (75) and the fucking Thinker complete with him sitting on some piece of tech (250).
The humans are getting shit comparatively. But hell, even Junkrat's poses are all good, so I don't know why they were so lazy with shit like Tracer and Widowmaker (apparently "Over the Shoulder" is Widowmaker's 250 pose, which is retarded)
>>332436708
>Half-Life 2
>Famous game made by SJWs
Seriously faggot?
>>332436708
I have one. Why are you baiting?
>>332436708
(you)
>>332436621
Nope.
But that's my point. He could only see the default position in gameplay videos and rotate in menus which he has no access to.
>>332436829
I just think the trend is funny to observe — it’s like gamergaters or trump supporters having anime avatars. It’s like, duh, of course you would defend the Tracer ass pose, you’ve made Overwatch porn. DESU I don’t care if you make rule 34 or if you draw porn — if you’re in a stalkery mood, you can very easily see I’m friends with people who happen to make smut, or reblog really weird stuff. Whatever floats your boat, as long as you’re self-aware.
>>332429150
Too bad it's all futa on futa shit
>>332434531
Yeah, they just happened to "didn't like the pose internally" at the same time that stupid "My kid watches that shitty ass monkey trailer every few hours like an autist" forum post.
That makes total sense
