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>It's not an HD remake
>It's not a sequel
>It's not a prequel
>It's not a reboot

So what the fuck is it?
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It's shit.

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It's its own game.
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ITS A SHIT GAME
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>>332353224
>/threading your own post
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>>332353159
A rehash.
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>>332353159
Its effectively somewhere between reboot, remake, and expansion. They're going back to 64, but rewriting and clarifying and expanding on it.
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It's an arch
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re-imagining
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>>332353159

I know it's complicated OP, but to understand what the deal with Star Fox Zero is, first we need to talk about parallel universes.

Not even memeing
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>>332353159
A rebootquel. Not quiet a remake yet not a sequel.
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>>332353870
> inb4 TJ "Henry" Yoshi shows up and starts saying things that can't be done
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It's Star Fox.

Do you think Mario 3D World is a sequel to 3D Land? A reboot? No, right?
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>>332354270
But it retells the exact events that were foretold in 64, which were lightly covered in 1, which has some mechanics taken from 2, all while masquerading as its own game, obviously canonically before any of the gamecube or DS games.

It's obviously trying to project a "remake" kind of deal, especially with the emphases on James and Pigma while ignoring Krystal.
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Im going to make it clear for all of you

Its a reboot and a re-imagining at the same time
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Yfw it's a multiverse
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It's the Rayman Origins of the series.
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>>332354818
All of this is correct.
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>>332354818
It's actually pretty good on dolphin senpai.

60fps hack works like a charm.
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It essentially is a reboot. Why do you say it's not a reboot?
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>>332353159
Downgrade.
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It's a reimagining, a parallel universe.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MflMuJhoeg0

At 6:10, the guys locks in the reticle and plays normally without staring at the gamepad.
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Have no other video games done a re-imagining of a previous that it doesn't have an official genre?
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Do they have robot legs?
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>>332353870
How do you complete half a presses with only gyro controls?
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>>332353159
A standalone installment?
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>>332357097

Why is his name Grippy?
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It's the "The Force Awakens" of Star Fox, I guess?
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>>332357358

Cause he loves to grippy Slippy when he slippies.
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so is it good or nah?
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>>332357680

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjmyRoGLLxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbm3ylIlFKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld5QwkTw-Ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yScgkPBmdLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlBW_605H2I

here's some stuff. It's looking pretty Star Fox
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>>332358060
so it's shit then? shame, guess sin&punishment and kid icarus will still be the best rail shooters nintendo will ever offer
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>>332353159
>all the detail put into the fur
>ships still look like shit
kek
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>>332354482
>he thinks Krystal will be ignored
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>>332358181
>kid icarus
heh
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>>332358181
not comparable even in the slightest lol
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>>332358417
I hope she is. Krystalfags are the worse.
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>>332358417
>>332358765
Krystal isn't even owned by Nintendo
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>>332358417
>>332358765

Krystal shouldn't have even been a fucking Star Fox character. The only reason she's in the series is because Miyamato was retarded, saw that Dinosaur Planet had fox characters, and told Rare hurr durr well in that case just slap Star Fox characters in it and call it a day. She's a character for a completely different game that got a Star Fox logo slapped on it.

I'm fucking glad Krystal's gone and I'm hoping Zero reboots the entire series so that game never has to be acknowledged again.
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>>332356945
Miyamoto says they never did and that theory is aids
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Could somebody link that dude playing for a half hour? Or that hour of footage? Because every link I try is private.
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>>332359126
pretty sure it was changed just so microsoft wouldn't get the dinosaur planet IP
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>no online multiplayer

honestly /b/ros whats the point?
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>>332359285

>Originally, the game had nothing to do with the Star Fox series and was intended to be a stand-alone title. According to an interview with Shigeru Miyamoto, he had noticed the striking similarities between the game's characters and those of Star Fox, and so the decision was made for the game to become part of Star Fox as a launch title for the Nintendo GameCube.
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>>332359126
I think I read somewhere that the Star Fox Zero devs are fond of Krystal and would like to include her in future games if possible.
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It's Star Fox 2 reimagined
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Why is she so cute and perfect bros?
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>>332358916
Actually, she is. She may not have been made by Nintendo, but she is their property.
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>>332357358
Well there is pleanty of him to grip.
I love fatties in business suits.
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>>332360167
Nope. She's owned by Microsoft. Even states as much in Star Fox Command
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>>332353159
It's an alternate universe version of a remake.
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>inb4 Andross was framed
>inb4 Pepper is the true antagonist
>inb4 James is alive
>inb4 Peppy dies
>inb4 it's just a shitty, boring, slow rail shooter with no plot, little to no gameplay, and a gimmick dinobot nobody wanted

Will this be the game that finally shows Platinum and Shiggy for what they really are? one hit wonders
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>>332360270
Got some proof for that?

If they have the rights to Krystal, then by the same logic they should also have the rights to pretty much every character aside from the big guy himself in Donkey Kong.
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>Star Fox series could have been a really great bunch of games with interesting stories and environments
>Main cast was interesting and lovable
>Concept was simple and there was plenty of room for improvement while keeping it familiar
>Instead Miyamoto makes the same fucking game five times or just gets another studio to vomit on it
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>>332361290
In case you haven't noticed yet, Miyamoto has never been great at telling stories.
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>>332361572
What IS Miyamoto good at?
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>>332361764
Nothing. He's always been an overrated hack.
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>>332361572
The story for Pikmin is pretty good.
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>>332361572
>>332361989
Miyamoto isn't a writer.
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>>332359126
And Krystal was a cat in Dinosaur Planet
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>>332361989
>Nobody knows that Pikmin plot is basically a friendly version of L.O.L
>Nobody know that Lack of Love was the main inspiration for Pikmin

Poor Kenichi Nishi, he deserved more
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>>332353159
they say the same thing about the ghostbusters movie
it's a fucking reboot
They just added more shit.
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REV UP THOSE BLACK ARWINGS
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>>332353159
It's a rehash.
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>>332359221
If they never had Robo legs then why are their legs made of metal
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>>332366201
They aren't, they're boots
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It's a re-imagining
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>>332360649
>Donkey Kong
>Zelda
>Starfox
>Wii series (Talk shit all you want, it was extremely successful.)
Miyamoto did some great things outside of Mario, anon.
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>>332359126
>>332362370
what if nintendo made a proper dinosaur planet?
cat krystal and all?
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>>332366201
>>332366402
Anon you shouldn't listen to a fucking Krystal fag but I can tell you that the metal legs were a design choice by Miyamoto with no hidden G-force shenanigans intent, just metal legs.
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>>332365684
There better be a Wolf amiibo at some point.
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>>332366402
>They aren't, they're boots
I would like to see them without these "boots" then because their legs shrink down to an inch thick before they meet the feet in >>332356945 pic.

>>332359221
>Miyamoto says they never did
Trusting Nintendo about their own canon? Are you serious? The same people who changed Birdo's gender and tried to cover it up? Who came out and said pokemon don't eat one another even though their own pokedex says they do? They say whatever they think people want to hear more when asked questions in interviews, even if proving them wrong is as easy as turning the games on.
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>>332361572
He directed those pikmin movies which were pretty good
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>>332365684
>not available in store

...Seriously!?
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>>332368854
that's a lot of falcos.
what would you call that?
a murder of falcos?
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>>332360095
Because you're a furfaggot, perhaps?
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>>332353159
>StarFox Zero
>Zero
Its nothing!
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>>332368680
but eating eggs of a pokemon isn't necessarily the same as eating a pokemon.
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>>332353159
Some kind of alternate reality/timeline bullshit?

They seem to be all the rage nowadays.
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>>332369710
Maybe you could make that case, but there is multiple references of it unhinging its jaw to swallow prey whole. Pretty sure 'Prey' isn't eggs or the pokemon food Brock used to make.
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>>332368680
The legs were metal in SNES to get the puppets to stand on their own, they never had metal legs
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>>332357379
So it's shit
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>>332370173
I love this meme!
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>>332370229
TFA was garbage, shut up.

People were still talking about the prequels and their saga after each one released until even after 3.

Everyone already forgot TFA was a thing not but a few months ago? No one even memes with the traitor guy anymore
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>>332370413
Of course they were talking about the prequels, the movies were absolute shit. It's the same thing as /v/ talking about Other M and DmC.
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>>332361290
Every time they tried to move one, folks kept bitching for more 64. So that plus Assault's story being good,but accidentally sterilizing so many past character plots and scenarios, and and command left with little to no basis for it's story, putting the final nail in it's timelines coffin
this rehash is needed and called for. It's not so much that Miyamoto is bad with stories more like Nintendo is bad with heavily linear timelines which is why they have no problems with Mario and Zelda and Kirby games, series that have brannches or just a bunch of random stories, but have issues with Metroid and Starfox their more linear timeline series, rightfully so because honestly you shouldn't be ending game franchises due to story, You either don't the tie the games together at all like Final Fantasy, or make a saga, finish and reboot. rinse and repeat
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>>332370168
STOP SPREADING BS, MIYAMOTO HIMSELF SAID HE GAVE THEM METAL LEGS FOR LOOKS SAKE .
https://youtu.be/1z6a8Oswk1s?t=464
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>>332370625
Not even close. If you want vidya comparison, OT was MGS up to 3, PT was MGS after 3
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>Krystal will never be in another Star Fox game
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>>332370413
>>332370173
Oh fuck off. TFA is a competently made movie, and the prequels aren't.

Just because people aren't autistically talking about the movie every second doesn't mean its inferior to that garbage. It meant there were more fans in the late 90s and early 00s that were part of the initial post OT fan discussion, and a good amount of them probably quit the franchise after III.

And to bring it back to /v/ discussion, we can only hope that it is a return to form, a "Force Awakens" for the Fox universe, even if it too is very derivative of the source material of 64.
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>>332359126
>I'm fucking glad Krystal's gone and I'm hoping Zero reboots the entire series so that game never has to be acknowledged again.

Not gonna happen.
Miyamoto's the one who made her what she is, and subtly hinted her for a sequel, along with fay and Miyu in an interview. Plus Zero has already been confirmed many times by Miyuamoto that it's not a reboot, but a reimagining, so Adventures and Assault are still canon. And Platinum's president also confirmed he wants her in a sequel. Plus, krystalfags are the daisyfags of starfox and will never stop asking for her until they get what they want, just like daisyfags finally got her in SMM after complaining for months, even the latest trailer is filled with krystal fans asking for her. And Nintendo has been pushing waifus in all their games this gen.
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>>332372407
It's fucking not though, especially compared to ANH which is shamelessly emulates
>nonstop action
>quippy
>"important" characters disappearing off screen with no reason as to why
>heavy handed humor WITH pauses afterwards so the audience can laugh and not miss dialogue
>shit ending
>worst SW soundtrack
>Rey is a Mary Sue

It's a bad, forgettable movie.
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>>332373002
>Fay and Miyu

Fuck no. At least having only one obligatory girl kept the furry shit to a minimum.
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>>332373410
Star Fox always had furry shit.
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>>332373410
>kept the furry shit to a minimum.
>Fox, Falco, Slippy, Peppy, Wolf, Panther, Leon, and Pigma gay shit doesn't exist.
>Its exclusively female characters that cause the influx of porn.
>Porn doesn't exist regardless and ignores that Rule 34 is a thing.

What the fuck is wrong with people.
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>>332373410
>thinking Krystal is the only furbait character in starfox
>ignoring the large gay furry audience that fap and sexualize fox falco, and especially wolf, as much as straight furries do to krystal fay miyu and katt
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>>332374046
>>332373758
Adding them won't make the gay stuff go away though.
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>>332374168
Exactly. There's no point in complaining about something that's going to exist. Rule 34 is real. What's the use complaining about it, really?
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There's nothing wrong with female characters
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>>332370112
The answer to this might be found in the Jap pokedex. If there is reference to Ekans eating eggs and large prey there, then they're just lying, if not, it's just an honest mistake due to localizations.
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>>332374168
That wasn't my point. My point is, most 64fags really think Krystal is the only furbait character and hate her just for that. they're that fucking delusional
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>>332353159
It's a reboot. Don't let anyone, even Miyamoto, tell you otherwise.
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>>332354710
It's not a reboot. They're not throwing out the continuity and the director wants to use Krystal in the next game.
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>>332375118
but they are
a reboot
andross again
a re imagined 64
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>>332375118
But it's literally the story of Star Fox 64. Unless it's replacing it and Adventures still happens.
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>>332353356
so a Retelling ?
hmm what other video games would fit in this category these days
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>>332353159
rehash
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>>332373404
Hi /tv/
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>>332353159
It's a Reimagining
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>>332375525
no rebuttal, shame for you
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>>332375772
I don't need to justify my shit taste for you
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>>332375239
That new Ratchet & Clank.
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>>332375204
Not replacing per se, but doing what Metroid Zero Mission, Castlevania IV, Silent Hill Shattered Memories or the Resident Evil remake did for their series.

It's telling the same story as the first game, but it's not starting the continuity over from scratch, which is what is implied through the word "reboot"

Basically
>remake
tells the original story, in as much of a similar way as possible, but still modernizing it. Like Resident Evil or Metroid Zero Mission
>reimagining
tells the original story, but in a way that is very different from the original, like Silent Hill Shattered Memories
>reboot
throws out all the old continuity to start over from scratch. Doesn't even need to resemble the original property at all. Like Prince of Persia, and Tomb Raider.

Star Fox 64 is between remake and reboot depending on if you count Starfox 2.

>>332375239
Retelling could easily fit remake or reimagining. Reimagining is already pushing it for me, we don't need more words for this.
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>>332376360
We really can't say for sure what Zero really is until the next game after it is revealed.
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>>332361572

He probably took one look at the path Sonic games chose and said "Nope, fuck that, not happening with my games."
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>>332353159
http://time.com/4245215/starfox-wii-u/

>It's neither a sequel nor prequel, but a reimagining of Star Fox 64
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>>332353159
It's shit.
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Didn't they say it's a reimagining?
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>>332378127
and it's a fancy word for reboot
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>>332378576
But they didn't get rid of everything and start from scratch.
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>>332377141
But you cannot just NOT have a story.
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Is it true that the voices don't come out of the tv at all? They're really game pad only??
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>>332378576
It's a fancy word for remake, actually.
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>>332353159
its a reimagining like the new Ratchet and Clank. Its a remake/reboot that only changes a few thing, while letting you know its based on the original game
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they kinda did

>Starfox one gets replace with 64 too be more than just a tech demo
>Starfox Zero is pretty much gonna replace and retell 64 in hopes of giving the series a more thriving timeline to make games in
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>>332381364
for>>332378724
also >>332381346 is the better answer
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