It's irrelevant that PS4k is not a new system. It's irrelevant they share libraries (well they better). PS4k is more powerful. Eventually devs will start targeting their games for it's added power. Then the regular PS4 will get the stripped down version missing all the effects that make it look decent. Or they'll knock down the resolution, or just not give a shit about the frame rate and you'll be playing a game that runs at about 24 fps rather than 30 and you'll need to "upgrade" to PS4k to get 30 fps.
What happens when they're targeting 1080p 30fps like they currently do only now that is the target on PS4k? You'll end up with shitty looking PS4 games, or the PS4 version will be 900p 25(ish) fps.
This is going to be like PC games running at minimum settings vs higher settings. Except you don't get control over the settings. Incompetent devs who ship broken games do. So I can't turn off motion blur or chromatic aberration to save some fps. Instead I have to tolerate the motion blur and chromatic aberration and for the privilege I get 25 fps.
You can complain about it but then all you'll hear from consumer whores is "Why haven't you just bought the PS4k yet, anon, don't you want to be a good consumer whore?" No, I don't. I want a box that plays the game acceptably that lasts for 7+ years. I don't care about graphics "stagnation." I don't want to have to pay 800 dollars for a console gen. I barely find any games now worth playing anyway, why would I want to pay 400 dollars every 3.5 years to play 3 games? If it just comes down to it I might as well just quit gaming rather than pay so much for something that is offering so little.
That's the PC experience. Nothing new.
>>332316871
there has been zero source saying the new ps4 has better fps. Only better resolution
>>332316871
>PS4k is more powerful. Eventually devs will start targeting their games for it's added power. Then the regular PS4 will get the stripped down version missing all the effects that make it look decent
Maybe for exclusives, but devs have to still develop for the even weaker X1 so your point is moot
>>332317384
I don't want the PC experience
>>332317739
So the PS4 ver will look as shit as the Xbone ver. Great.
>>332316871
Build a PC :^)
>>332317601
fps is always a trade off with resolution and other graphical effects. And most people are saying there's no way PS4k can run games in 4k. So resolution above 1080p probably isn't even on the table.
>>332317739
>Eventually devs will start targeting their games for it's added power.
Whats really funny is devs HAVEN'T been making games that actually use the PS4's "power"
Just sell your old PS4 and buy the new one.
Nothing difficult, stop being poor.
>>332317601
>I don't know how graphics processors work
>>332316871
Get cucked you dumb early adopter
40M retards you inherited from the Wii customer base. Not gonna pity people who bought a system for one/no game (seriously if you take overlaps into aaccounts the game sales proves some people still haven't bought a game)
>>332318367
>3 years is early
>>332316871
u mad, kiddo? Save up your allowance for a while, you'll get enough to get the better PS4 eventually.
>he thinks it's going to be a 4K gayman machine
You guys are fucking dumb.
>>332318165
Then why do the games still run at 30 fps and not 40 or 45?
No devs are going to focus on the regular Ps4 and are going to have an uprezzed version for the ps4k
>>332316871
>eventually
Yeah, after like 3 years. The PS2 was only out for 6 years before the PS3, did the introduction of a new console mean that everyone immediately sold their PS2 and buy a PS3? No, they kept making games.
Also, there will never be that big of a difference between console variations for at least 10 more years, so you have literally no reason to worry. More people own the original PS4 than they will a PS4k, so developers have no reason to only make games for the console no one has, at least for a while.
>>332318286
Good luck getting any money for an old PS4 once the new one is announced.
Yep, it will kill the regular version just like the new 3ds did. oh wait.
>>332319569
Dumb normies will buy it and thus force me to buy it. If it was up to me we'd stay on PS4 and Xbone for 20 years. Fuck PC faggots who whine about stagnation.
>>332319574
There will ALWAYS be people willing to pay less for some older hardware
>>332319574
Then sell it before the new one releases, most normalfags don't even know there's a PS4k in the works.
>>332319702
You'll get 120 bucks for PS4 toward your 400 dollar PS4k. Wow such value. Much savings!
>>332319658
>Dumb normies will buy it and thus force me to buy it
With a gun to your head? Just don't buy it if you don't want it or can't afford it yet, you idiot. I repeat, YOU WILL NOT NEED TO UPGRADE FOR YEARS UNLESS YOU ARE AUTISTIC AND NEED THE HOTTEST NEWEST TOY.
>>332319658
>If it was up to me we'd stay on PS4 and Xbone for 20 years.
I'd be fine with that. Devs might actually be semi-decent at creating fpr it by then.
itt whining bitch cries because he's a faggot who's angry he has to buy a new iteration of the console he's already got
guess what nigger? you don't have to. now stop shitposting like a little bitch and go play with your toys, you gullible manchild
There are already console games starting to come out with graphics options. I'd expect to see more of this if the PS4.5 is actually real. The 4.5 version will have more dumb shaders and hopefully you can turn them off for an increased or more stable framerate.
>>332316871
>PS4K Screw 40m autistic retards that doesn't know any better: The inpatient legacy
Fixed that for ya m8. Rule of thumb, never buy Sony's or Microsoft's first gen console and wait for the 2nd and 3rd version of it.
Same with Nintendo handhelds
>Sony "leaks" the PS4k
>people start selling their PS4s to save up for when the PS4k comes out
>it never comes out, there was never a PS4k
>people get forced to buy a PS4 again
AHAH SONY WILL FUCK YOUR ASS AND YOU WILL ENJOY IT
>>332319878
I don't want to upgrade until there's a PS5
>>332320001
so much this. you niggers never learn
>>332318370
Ps+ free games brev :^]
this is why people haven't bought into next gen yet, firstly they did this last gen, with the thermal issues, and secondly everyone (who can read) knew at launch pc's could outperform the ps4 within a year if that.
it was inevitable they would make a model 2.
the mega drive (genesis) had 3 versions (in the west) and no one bitched about it.
>>332319004
If you cant get 20 preowned games for <$20 it is too early
PS4 fags love to eat up PS3 Remasters, but it's NOT OK to do the same to the actual console.
Fag double standards. Glad you guys are getting wrecked with PS4.5. Keep buying Remasters, shitheads.
>>332320345
Then don't, why do you think you need to upgrade? I didn't say the PS4k or whatever it's called was going to be the thing that makes everyone upgrade, it could very well be the PS5. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS4.5 is just to hold people over until they reveal the PS5.
>>332316871
Developers have created games for 360, Xbone, PS3 and PS4 for a while now. They are going to the same thing but with PS4K and PS4.
>>332319818
haha epic dog meme
thats my favorite meme
>>332320548
I enjoy remasters because I never played a lot of 6th generation console games and most of them look too shitty nowadays for me to really get into.
Is there an actual source confirming this? Is just rumors?
Does OP even own a PS4?
Because it sounds like the people making these threads don't even have on in the first place. They're just trying to start shit with the best gaming platform this gen.
>>332320784
Rumor.
>>332320779
Fuck off cunt. You're the cancer that makes Remasters so prevalent. You have no right to bitch about the PS4.5 when you bought into Remasters.
>>332320784
Yep, rumors. Their source is fucking klepek from kotaku.
Wow I heard you guys say the exact same thing about the N3DS!
Nobody will be making games the 4k exclusively because they know it would alienate the userbase.
100% of the downsides of pc gaming with none of the benefits
I'm actually glad, but that's because I don't own PS4. Games will be made with greater graphical fidelity, probably in price with resolution on original PS4.
This is good news for PC. Even better for people who planned to buy it in the future.
>>332316871
how does it feel to have PS4 go from winning the generation to losing it in a matter of seconds?
>>332321034
>kotaku
lel
No point in talking about it then.
this sounds like master system/game gear all over again!
>>332316871
You mean how they make the game shitty for ps4 then port it to PC exactly as shitty?
Basically people paying for the upgunned ps4 won't see any difference and sonyggers will gobble it up
>>332316871
I won't mind this if I can trade in my old system to help pay for the new. As long as it's a good deal that is.
>>332321180
Can't wait for inevitable fights between original PS4 owners (poorfags) and PS4.5 owners (unnecessary expense). Just like between PS4 and PS3.
>>332320983
How is playing games you've never played at an acceptable level of graphical fidelity the same as planned technological obsolescence?
>>332316871
How much does it suck to be such a poorfag that you won't buy it on release day?
I've read a few articles about this PS4K.
It looks like the upgrade is for 4K output, and VR support.
So if i don't plan on getting a 4K TV for years, and don't give a fuck about VR, I might still buy the old one.
But, the part I don't get is what they mean by "enhanced performance", is this just a few more fps in some games?
>>332319618
Handhelds have insanely different development priorities over home consoles.
This shouldn't be something you need to learn.
>>332321791
How does it feel to buy a paperweight?
>>332321961
Like not being poor.
Uh guys, I'm pretty sure the extra GPU is locked down for 4k content only.
>>332322070
>poor
Tell me exactly what I missed by not buying PS4 on release?
Other than gigabytes of system updates, Bloodborne and possible revisited hardware.
>>332319818
Back to facebook with you
I'm sure there's going to be shops that will do some trade in special where you can sell your PS4 to get the PS4K at a major discount
>>332322070
Couldn't have said it better myself
>>332322228
A few enjoyable games.
How much those $400 are worth is up to you, they mean nothing to me.
>>332321801
This entire fiasco was started by Kotaku and it's all rumor.
Sony isn't saying shit and are probably just smiling over the fact that the PS4 is at the top of everyone's newsfeed.
In all likelihood, it's a slim model with UHD Blu-ray support.
The PSVR already has an onboard bit of hardware to help take the stress off the PS4 in VR applications.
People are just being stupid.
>>332322228
If you don't care about the console why are you even here complaining about it?
>>332322497
I'm actually planning on buying PS4, but the only must buy game I want releases in 2017.
>>332316871
Man you guys sure do bitch a lot.
>>332322627
Then just wait. I don't like this incremental upgrade bullshit but it's what people get by being early adopters.
>>332322401
>and it's all rumor.
I hope Sony clears things up soon, I was thinking about getting the next bundle that looks good.
VR is not for me, and I'm a long way from buying a new TV.
>THIS HARDWARE IS ALREADY OBSOLETE FUCK SONY REEEEEEEEEEE
Okay, here faster
>40 GORILLION DEADWEIGHT PS4S NOW SONY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
>>332319818
that's not in the slightest bit true
>>332322779
Yup. That's why I'm asking the other anon what exactly I missed by not buying it on release. Currently I only see positives myself of not buying it.
>>332316871
>Eventually devs will start targeting their games for it's added power. Then the regular PS4 will get the stripped down version missing all the effects that make it look decent.
Stopped reading there. Fearmongering is not a source
>>332319394
This. It's gonna have 4K BD support and that's it. No added power for games.
>>332323008
You missed the games that are already out but if you don't care about them it's your problem.
If you want to be smart with your money good for you but don't act like burning 400 on electronic devices is a huge life changing decision. It's called disposable income for a reason.
>>332320649
Yeah but you're acting like console faggots aren't the target demographic consumer for retards that can't control themselves and crush their wallet over the hottest new scam. Ps4 fagggots have paid $800+ this gen on hardware alone. :^) let's not even talk about how much Sony charges you a year to use your own internet.
>>332316871
but they are doing that to please linearborne turds so they will finally enjoy their sole game at 25,0000005 fps
>buying ps4k without a 4k tv
lmao
>>332323459
Why are you butthurt over the way other people spend their cash? You know you're not forced to buy anything from Sony right?
>>332316871
I feel bad for the sonyggers. Sony fucks them in the ass again and they still love it and think that MS is the enemy.Meanwhile MS brings Xbox exclusives to PC and saves PC gaymin.
>>332323629
>owning a 4K tv
>>332320983
How is it my fault I didn't play PS2 games that looked like ass when they were released?
>>332323797
>reading comprehension
>>332323738
I'm not butthurt, I'm shitposting because it's funny. I love seeing retards get scammed out of their money while they spend their time arguing for a company that is raping them. If anything you seem more butthurt at me shitposting by asking me some dumbass question like that.
>>332316871
I don't think they're gonna aim for 4k games at all
what they really mean to do is probably get 4k support at 60z which their current PS4 cannot do, it can only do 4k at 30hz because of HDMI1.4
So basically I think this new PS4.5 or what ever is gonna have a mildly more powerful CPU/GPU and then its gonna have that HDMI 2.0 that they need for 4k/60hz support
Seriously doubt that games will be running at that and they can't pull the bullshit where "the game is 1080p and its upscaled to 4k"
>>332323459
>Ps4 fagggots have paid $800+ this gen on hardware alone
Are you braindead? I've spent $350 on PS4 hardware in the year and a half since I got it.
>>332324069
>the 60 dollars a year to get access to free services online doesn't count
>>332324064
>mfw only thing PS4k can run is 4k will be the menu
>its okay when Nintendo does it
>>332324069
>>332324168
And a TV, and a couch.
>>332320247
what. why not just they buy ps4k what will likely be more expensive...?
>>332324279
>b-but nintendo!
>>332324280
>things you don't already have
its like retards who critique these PC builds and say "YOU NEED A BRAND NEW TV/MONITOR/MOUSE/KEYBOARD" because somehow the ones you already have don't count
>>332324370
>2016
>watching TV
Really anon? Or are you still living with your mom?
>>332324168
>The second 4k meme console I'm gonna buy doesn't count either
>yfw it's NX compatible
remember the patent about games that run on "any hardware disregarding brand"
>>332324370
That's how some people unironically count price of PC build here.
>tfw not a sonycuck
>>332316871
>mfw my friend bought a PS4 literally a month ago
He sure loves playing Bloodborne :^)
wait a minute. sony will launch a new ps4? then the current owners will have to buy again? that's why they did not launch games, it was all a beta-test
Thanks for beta testing a console, PS4cucks.
>>332317384
>tfw my seven year old rig finally died today
just ordered a new motherboard, processor and ram for about 120 dollars, man i sure am jealous of you consolefags lol
Now all they gotta do is remove their online fee bullshit then I actually will buy one
I'M NEVER BUYING FROM SONY AGAIN DAMN SHITTY THIEVES FUCK YOU SONY FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!
>>332319705
This, just sold mine for 289
>>332320519
so you would rather wait years to play games than too spend a little more?
>bought $400 console
>bought 3 gamepads for $150
>bought Playstation Plus for $50 year for 3 yeras
>bought two motion controllers for $120
>bought camera for $80
>bought multi charge controller stand for $50
>bought vertical stand for $20
>bought $400 VR headset
>bought headset for $80
I have spent $1450 on this shitty piece of shit and it's all useless now
FUCK
THANKS 40M BETA TESTERS!
I'll let you know how good Souls 2.0 is on the PS4K exclusive launch day
>>332325479
DELETE THIS
>>332325479
Me too, I have bought 4 different PS4s in case they stop working and they all don't mean shit now
>>332324280
You need a vehicle to transport them, as well. Youi also need a garage to store your vehicle in, which requires a house or an apartment. You also need to pay rent + utilities to stay in your house or apartment. So owning a PS$ costs thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars, lol great value amirite
>>332316871
They are doing this because of VR.
I guess Sony regrets releasing shitty hardware.
>>332325836
>in case they stop working
Why not just buy when they really stop working?
>>332316871
build a pc lol
>>332324494
Feelsgoodman
>>332316871
>You'll end up with shitty looking PS4 games, or the PS4 version will be 900p 25(ish) fps
But this is already what PS4 games run at.
>>332324301
reading isnt your strong subject is it
>>332325479
>but you only needed to buy the console!
>and extra controllers to play with friends
>and PS+ to play online
>and the headset if you want to talk with people
>and the camera and motion controllers for VR
>and the PS4K if you want to watch 4K ULTRASUPERHDBLURAYTURBO movies
>>332327368
>and the headset if you want to talk with people
Actually they give you a complimentary $5 headset with every console purchase!
>>332324280
Who doesn't own a TV? Are you seriously watching your movies/series on anything below a 50" TV?
>>332324168
>$60
>free
>>332316871
Reasons to buy a console:
>Shit just werks, don't have to install games or download updates and shit
>Don't have to upgrade a console every two years to enjoy the latest games
>Split-screen multiplayer
There are no reasons to buy a console anymore.
>>332328348
I watch them on my PCfor free
>>332320548
>PS4 fags love to eat up PS3 Remasters
Why do you think that every human is the same?
>>332320840
Yes, I have a PS4. If I knew about this I wouldn't have gotten it.
>>332324901
>120 dollars
>>332320548
>Sonyfags will actually buy The Last Of Us Remastered: Remastered
We don't live in some libertarian paradise where everyone is an informed and rational consumer. Boycotts and shit never work. People will buy what they are expected to buy and fanboys will beg to get fucked and justify it. Consumers are worse than any big bad corporation and whether the industry gets better or worse is totally in the hands of the "benevolent masters"
It's all just a matter of consensus and advertising. Quality means nothing. unless the consensus of a vocal minority and media are extremely negative (xbone), the masses will buy it. The only exception is if it's poorly advertised and they hardly know about it or aren't sure what it is (wii u)
I have a feeling the only hope for this failing is the latter category and fanboys and smartphone fags (and potentially the master-disgrace) will defend this to the death.
>>332329439
What's wrong with that? Honestly TLoU is one of the best games to come out in the past decade, maybe even two. Naughty Dog is a fantastic developer and I don't even mind buying the definitive 4k version.
Either get a job or don't buy it. That's it.
>>332330201
>TLoU is one of the best games to come out in the past decade,
>>332330354
>neogaf
no shit
>>332330739
>game isn't even on the PS4
>>332330870
It's already announced
This is all your fault for supporting different GPUs and other shit, PC faggots.
>>332316871
For the players, amirite?
>PS2 had an updated model release a couple of years after the original
>PS3 had an updated model release a couple of years after the original
>PS4 ???
Only people that didn't see this coming are casuals and dumbasses. Will be buying the 4k on launch.
>>332331638
Those were the same hardware only smaller
>>332331638
These redesigns didn't add extra horsepower though, if anything they all removed something important.
I think people are sperging out over nothing. I don't remember this level of negativity when the n3ds was announced and it had exclusives announced day one.
>>332332439
>I don't remember this level of negativity when the n3ds was announced and it had exclusives announced day one.
I do. Because I was there and I was one of the ones bitching
>>332332615
Yeah but were you bitching in hater threads or threads for people who were excited for it? I don't remember much of the former happening.
>>332328709
If Anything it sounds like ps4 fags are gonna have to upgrade faster than anyone with a competent PC will this gen
>>332333142
I don't recall many threads with people "excited" for it. Why would you be excited for a system whose selling point is a Xenoblade port that looks WORSE than the Wii version?
>>332333394
Then you're full of shit because the board was spammed with shill threads the day it was announced.
>>332325439
Yes. It is how it has been all my life. Since the super nintendo.
I can get a console and load up on enough games in the last 2 years of a console to last me through most of the next gen. I walked into gamestop with $40 and came out with close to 20 good games. Buying a console new is cancerous
>>332333648
Besides theres always been that one kid who had parents would sell their consoles for dirt cheap for drug and booze money
>mfw $50 n64 in 1998 and $80 gcn when WW came out
>>332316871
No! Sony always wins! Why should Sony release a Playstation with a replaceable gpu/cpu when the shady japanese corporate puppet masters can just issue a NEW playstation every three year and cash in on morons. Long live Sony.
>>332322939
Second hand places were offering 17500y ($154 burgers) here for a ps4 like 2 months ago
>>332333648
To be fair this advice applies to being a smart consumer period. I've recently gotten into the habit of purposely wAiting for all my games on steam to hit their summer or winter sales and I can't even imagine how many games I've gotten for the price of one compared to if I had been impatient and bought on release day
Good thing I've been waiting before I buy a PS4. Unfortunate thing though is that it'll be more expensive than regular PS4s.
>>332333385
>b-but it's for PSVR which only costs $399
>have to buy another console for $400 in order for it to work properly
we finally fuckin did it ps4kbros
pc, nintendo, microsoft, and ps4fags are gonna be left way behind this technological masterpiece
>Console gaming is cheaper, they said.
>$400 for the console.
>$60 premium per game as the library consists primarily of AAA garbage.
>Overpriced PSN content, as publishers have to jack up the prices to make up for the revenue they must share with Sony.
>Tier 2 console released for another $400.
>A Sonypony who bought both machines, has 20 AAA titles and 10 PSN games has spent a bare minimum of $2000.
>My gayman PC cost me $1400 and can pick up anywhere between 15-30 AAA and indie games during a Steam sale for, at the WORST $150 total.
>I will very soon have to buy a new GPU for my PC, that has some retarded, gimmicky 5GB Video RAM, in order to play all the new PC ports that have 4k textures in them.
>Devs will now spend major portions of their budget, trying to figure out how they could force the most texture resolution and display resolution out of their games, giving them yet another excuse to focus development on graphics over gameplay.
Consoles ruin *everything*. And fuck this 4k trend.
