http://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-plans-new-playstation-for-graphics-heavy-games-1459152941
>Sony Corp. is planning to sell a more powerful version of its PlayStation 4 machine to handle higher-end gaming experiences, including virtual reality, people familiar with the matter said, while continuing production of its existing console that has so far sold more than 36 million units world-wide.
>Existing PlayStation 4 owners would need to buy the new model to take full advantage of the enhanced graphics and power, though it is likely that the current model and the coming one would share the same software catalog, one of the people said.
>The new console would be announced before the planned October release of the PlayStation VR, Sony’s new virtual-reality headset, the people said. It would be able to handle ultra-high-definition resolution graphics. The upgraded console would also provide more power for running the PlayStation VR, whose main competitors, Facebook Inc.’s Oculus Rift and HTC Corp.’s Vive, are designed to work with top-shelf computers.
Will you buy a PS4K to play Bloodborne at 60 FPS /v/?
How is this allowed?
There is no longer any reason for consoles to exist if this is the path they are going to take. The one good aspect of owning and developing for consoles is unchanging hardware. This is suicide for Sony and Microsoft.
>sonycucks talking about muh timewarp can handle vr it will be great
>instead they have to eat down a stronger APU that likely still won't be powerful enough
top cuck
>>332293845
Well it's not like they spent an entire conference telling developers how important one set of fixed specs is
>>332293463
thank you based sony.
Wasn't a console supposed to be a PC that you didn't have to upgrade every few years?
Gee, whatever happened to that?
>mfw I didn't buy PS4
>>332293845
We still have Nintendo to keep making game consoles, and not dumbed-down PCs.
>>332293767
No way, I was already iffy about buying a ps4
If this is true I'm out of the console market forever
>>332293616
This is the same with Nintendo and their DS.
Kinda sad that they're putting so much effort into this VR thing when it's destined to fail horribly.
Just more motion controlled horseshit.
I blame nintendo for this trend. On the bright side, this probably won't lag like shit when playing binding of Isaac.
Well, fuck you too sony.
>>332293463
>Will you buy a PS4K to play Bloodborne at 60 FPS /v/?
If it shares the same software catalog your shittily optimized games will still run as they always have. Only newer games programmed to take advantage of VR will be any different.
Also TOPKEK at all those faggots and shills claiming PSVR would knock out the competition, oh wait sorry that'll be another $400 on top
>Bought a PS4 a month ago because I finally came to term that BB was not coming on PC
fuck me I guess
>>332293961
>Console effectively 60% more powerful than same-spec pc
Top kek
>>332293463
This kills the Xbone
I love this phenomena that appears on /v/ with literally every hardware announcement ever. you have a lot of people on /v/ whose mom either can't afford to get them one, or their mom just got them a PS4 or other console last Christmas so there's no way they can ask for the newer one.
They know that after it releases they'll see people on /v/ who do have it posting ">using the old PS4" with smug anime faces
So they're having to beat them to the punch by hiveminding that it's shit so then they can convince themselves that they're somehow superior for NOT owning something, thus enabling them to smugly shitpost in threads about said thing.
You see this on /v/ with literally every new product that costs more than what a kid can ask mom for
>include graphic options on console games like they do on PC games
There you go, everything is fixed. Granted, the only way you'll be able to play smoothly is to put everything on low, but it'll show console babies how bad consoles are in the end.
This is why you drones shouldn't shill the console by showing games to be released in the future, but by showing already released games.
>Existing PlayStation 4 owners would need to buy the new model to take full advantage of the enhanced graphics and power
lmao
I don't mind
More powerful hardware is always welcome
>>332293463
Well so long as they keep the exclusives to VR garbage I'm ok with it. I'm happy with my ps4 and plan on building a pc anyway.
>>332294163
>VR
>motion control
Are you retarded or just baiting?
Anyways hasn't it been basically confirmed that the 4k is just upscaling for video media? There's no monetarily viable way for the PS4 to output actual native 4k resolution, unless the price is going to be in the $1,000 range or so.
Besides, nobody is developing games at 4k at this point. Certainly not major AAA releases
>>332293463
Fuck yeah, I'm so buying one.
>>332294270
Can you refute it?
I've always been a console guy. I bought a PS4 4 months ago. IF this is true, i'm done with consoles and i will build a PC for the next gen.
>>332294485
>technology is moving faster than static platforms can handle
I
FUCKING
TOLD
YOU
SO
>mfw PS4K isn't backwards compatible with normal PS4 games
>>332294239
>>332293463
>Bloodborne at 60 FPS
Bloodborne at 60 FPS in 4K resolution, you mean. It's gonna be great.
>>332293463
If they made this backwards compatible I would buy this on a whim. My PS3 is close to giving up.
>>332293463
>casuals and normies who just want to play games get the base PS4 model
>enthusiasts and rich normies who want better performance and graphics and/or VR will pay the extra money for the PS4K
This in itself is fine. This is how many other electronic models work, ex. cell phones.
It will be a smoother transition if the base PS4 model gets a price cut to 299 or lower.
BUT
If Sony makes games EXCLUSIVE to the PS4K, they will have FUCKED it up, no excuses. If they separate their userbase, the hate and complaints will be even more than they are now.
>developers now have to choose between PS4 shit and PS4 not as shit
>dividing your entire player base and cutting into the biggest reasons why developers choose a console over PC
Nail, meet coffin.
>this is all for VR
Hammer will be along shortly.
>>332294636
Backwards compatible with PS3 games? The regular ps4 isn't even backwards compatibile
>>332294651
If Sony makes games EXCLUSIVE to the PS4K, they will have FUCKED it up, no excuses. If they separate their userbase, the hate and complaints will be even more than they are now
>more than they are now
Kek, but no, they won't.
>>332294601
>bloodborne
>60 fps @4K
>on $400 console
sure m8.
Keep on dreaming.
>>332293845
I still say PS4k is a regular PS4 with a 4k HDMI port but if it's a new machine the price has to be south of $450 (and some sort of fair trade in policy for existing users), it has to play all current PS4 games and the HDD has to be at least 2 TB while maintaining the PS4 general size aesthetic, all in all impossible they're better waiting 2 -3 more years and just dropping a PS5 on the masses.
the question of would people upgrade is different with a marginal increase in specs that's a yes, people buy new phones every year now, and they're much bigger monetary investment than a game console
>>332294651
>If they separate their userbase, the hate and complaints will be even more than they are now
Who cares? They're pretty much the only console on the market, people will eat their shit no matter what. The fact that people are still buying these things and not just hooking up gamepads to their PCs should tell you everything you need to know.
>>332294601
probably not 4k but at that price point it's most likely a 280x/380 in there so definately 60fps/1080p solid with much better effects
>>332294703
They aren't gonna divide their fanbase
This isn't Nintendo
>>332294490
Yes. Literally every decent port, as in not terribly optimized piece of shit port, runs better than the console counterpart. See every battlefield game that runs better on a 7750amd/750 gtx than the ps4.
Literally every game that is not badly optimized just runs better on pc.
The 60% figure probably comes from shit tier ports, but its not a console advantage perse or a console property.
A pc of the same specs of a ps4,sometimes even lower speced pcs, run better than the ps4. Simple as that.
>>332294897
Are you missing the news here
>Sony is releasing an entirely new console that makes the previous console redundant
They already HAVE split their playerbase.
In hindsight it makes sense.
The PS4 was outdated by the time it came out. It looked good compared to PS3, but any good PC would have been capable of doing more. It took at least a year for that to happen the previous generation.
>>332294270
Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Carmack said they are twice as powerful
>>332294760
please, the sonyfags are gonna eat it up anyway.
theyre pretty much like apple fags
>>332294856
PCs are shit for gaming. Everything is always online and buggy.
Expect it to cost at least $900
I honestly thought not having to buy new parts every couple of years was an advantage of console gaming.
>>332294975
Nope
The console is basically the same just a little bit more powerful
They aren't gonna fuck over 50 million users
Yeah it kind of sucks buck at least its not the xbone. I'll buy it to show my support for a company that at least tries to respect me.......
>>332295084
which games are these?
>>332295084
>PCs are shit for gaming
>>332294601
>60 FPS in 4K
anon pls
I'm gonna guessing it's gonna cost as much as a PS3 costs at launch.
~$600
>>332295106
This is Sony we're talking about. Fucking over customers is something they've taken pride in for 40 years.
Literally everyone against this is some PS4 owner kidding themselves into thinking it would literally be a 4K gaming machine and that they'd have payed extra for it.
All Sony had to do was not go full retard, and this gen was theirs. Why?
>>332294975
Split the playerbase between what? The people that want VR and 4k and the ones who don't care?
>>332295115
>a company that at least tries to respect me
>sony
hahahhahahh...
I smell a lots of poorfags and underage in this thread
Disgusting
>>332295084
>PCs are shit for gaming
Yes well then you should definitely get a new console where the entire design focus is basically on making a watered down PC now
>>332295152
Hitman, Need for Speed, Ass Creed, Xcom.
Pretty much everything released from 2 months ago.
Guess I should sell my PS4 before the normies realize this is coming out. Fuck, I liked Bloodborne. I just can't justify keeping this thing for one game though.
Guess I get to upgrade my PC now though
>>332294962
Not a pro on this area but you are saying that Sony lied to their own developers on a conference for some bragging points? Saying something that could sabotage them in the long run because the games are overestimating the specs?
Either Sony is fucking retarded or there is more context on that slide which people are ignoring.
>>332295205
You are an imbecile
Anyway
SONY WILL KEEP OBLITERATING THE COMPETITION
>>332293463
It's pretty much just a PS4 made for the sole purpose of running VR more effectively. I don't really see a problem unless the VR runs like shit on the vanilla PS4
Sure I'll buy it. Sell my old PS4 and pay the additional 150-200 like I would for any upgrade on my pc.
I need a 4k BD player anyway for my new TV I'll get in 3 months.
>>332295265
You mean a very cheap and powerful for the price PC that just werks and requires no set up and isn't the size of a baby hippo?
>>332295295
Everything you said runs better on PC.
Also to comparison Hitman on consoles runs on equivalent of medium PC settings. And every benchmark compares max settings.
I will get it
That's for sure
>2016
>being a poorfag
>>332293463
HOOOOLY SHIT.
>>332295468
>$0.15 has been deposited into your account by Sony Corp.
>>332295468
Good guy.
>>332295468
See people, this is why consoles still exist: suckers.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/suckered
>>332295318
>I just can't justify keeping this thing for one game though
and yet you justified buying one for it, and now are justifying buying ANOTHER one for vaporware. Perfect customer.
>>332295295
eh xcom isnt online only asscreed is from ubisoft so that's a given need4speed is from EA which is also a terrible publisher and hitman isnt even entirely out yet, so aside from those games launched from the last 2 months I don't see how pc is shit
>>332294856
>hooking up gamepads to their PCs
Because I don't feel like hooking up my PC to my living room television.
Because I don't feel like working on the machine that I'm also playing video games on.
Because I have a lazy job that overpays me like crazy so I might as well buy the toys I want.
>>332295560
>>332295571
>>332295579
Idiots getting triggered
Love it
>>332293463
What exactly is the source for these RUMORS? The article is behind a paywall.
>>332295641
Simply ebic m80
>>332295319
Its probably an average counting the shit ports. Its not really untrue considering there are tons of shit ports, but the times where a console could get better performance with the same hardware are long gone. Specially now that we start seeing Mantle and dx12 implemented on games.
Isn't how cheap consoles are the main reason why people buy them?
Seeing all these console peasants complaining about poorfags really has me laughing.
>>332295650
And it's because it's behind a paywall that you can trust the source to not spout bullshit. It's official, let's hope NPD tanks hard.
>>332295631
>Because I don't feel like hooking up my PC to my living room television.
It's as lazy as not hooking up console to TV.
So it's the new 3DS all over again? And just like that, I hate this too.
>>332295319
It's called PR you fucking retard. You blatantly lie about shit that the vast majority of people listening don't understand and they will believe you. It's more for shareholders and console owners than devs, although it would most likely be considered a talking point for devs that want to stay on Sony's good side.
>>332295730
>And it's because it's behind a paywall that you can trust the source to not
Stopped reading there.
>>332295650
Wallstreet Journal is a lot more credible than what most people here tout as fact.
It doesn't mean it isn't a rumor, but it does have substance.
>>332293463
>4K
And yet it will still have no exclusives beyond that odd jap game that japs forgot to port to PC
mfw>all these poor sonyfags about to get fucked in the ass by sony.
who am I kidding some of these faggots are already praising it, only the poorfags and kids are actually complaining
>>332294083
Nintendo is the one that started with the incremental upgrade crap you shill
>>332293463
I just bought a fucking PS4 not even 6 months ago and they're doing this fucking shit now? Jesus fucking christ, this is what I would expect from Nintendo.
It will be just like the New 3DS. Like two exclusives with all the major titles only having awareness of the extra hardware.
>>332295730
>And it's because it's behind a paywall that you can trust the source to not spout bullshit
>If you pay for it, it can't be bullshit
Are you fucking stupid? People have been paying to be told lies in their newspapers for decades.
No one can defend this.
No one.
>>332294083
And yet the WiiU is just a dumbed down PC with games you can already find elsewhere. Ironic.
>sonyggers will defend this
It's paid online all over again
>>332295746
Nah, Sony will be smart/dickish enough to moneyhat exclusives on the PS4K that people would actually want in order to push sales. Prepare for Bloodborne 2, Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy VII Complete Edition to be 4k exclusive.
>>332295843
Uh, no it didn't you retard? If you're talking about how they release a new handheld every year, it's the same hardware, just a new design. The New 3DS is literally the only exception and that has only two exclusive games.
This shit could end up being the "no reselling games" for Sony, something not only bad enough to hurt the PSVR ("your current machine is shit for PSVR so you're paying 400 for a gimped experience") but any future console too, because you'll awake the "WHAT IF THEY RELEASE A PS5.5 TWO YEARS FROM NOW" in the masses. Multiple iterations defeat the purpose of consoles.
>>332295834
It's going to be all over again.
You know how PS4 owners called people who didn't buy it and have PS3 poorfags? Now these faggots are gonna fight between each other all over again.
>>332295881
and yet they will, count on it.
>>332295957
the asshurt will be glorious
>>332296013
>they don't do it except when they do
Shill harder
>>332295704
Cool, thanks for the info. Sounds reasonable.
>>332295782
And then there is this guy. This image was part of a presentation towards developers bro. If lying to your own developers is part of their PR they would be the biggest idiots on the market.
>>332295808
Nobody in Wallstreet Journal has an anus.
OP, you seem to have subscribed to their site, so what are the sources they mention? They mention no rumors in the first sentence and say a new 4K gaming capable PS4 is coming out like it's a fact. What is their source?
>>332296035
it's gonna be hilarious
>>332295881
>>332295907
>Idiots waste hundreds of dollars on a new shitty graphix card
>Idiots waste hundreds of dollars on a new Shitty upgraded handheld
But apparently is only wrong when Sony does it
>>332295881
What's wrong with it?
>>332294516
Don't let the swinging door hit your dumb ass on the way out. If you can't afford a PS4 until two+ years past it's launch how long is it going to take you to cobble together a PC that can actually play anything or keep it up to date when a new tech driven game launches? When you say I've always been a console guy you should have just said "I've always been P O O R."
>>332295735
my consoles are in my entertainment center below my TV. My computer is in my home office. Im not putting extra cables through my wall just to brag about not owning consoles.
>>332293463
>bought a ps4 2 months ago
Seriously fuck Sony, how is this acceptable?
>>332296146
oh please, you sony faggots kept on repeating as how the piece of shit 4 was gonna last till 2018
>>332296080
>one exception proves the rule wrong!!!!
You couldn't possibly get any stupider. Could you?
Honestly I'm annoyed they're doing this. I bought my PS4 with faith in Sony to deliver something similar to the PS2 library after a few years. Now I find out that all I got was 90% indie shit and HD remakes and I have to buy an entirely new console (which I won't be doing) to play the games I was hoping to play in the first place. It's fucking disgusting how badly PS4 owners are getting shafted for having faith in a console
Not to mention that most people on other websites comment sections seem to be completely OK with it and actually support it. I really hope Sony takes huge backlash from this, similar to the original xbone, if it turns out as shitty as it sounds
>>332296021
Dumb Kot poster.
>>332296021
My prediction is the next generation of consoles will be offered in multiple tiers of hardware/price, probably with the normal console with the normal asking price and a higher-powered console with a much higher price for the "core" audience.
Sony's probably using this as a test case to gauge interest for that kind of business model.
>>332295907
I am a Sony fan for life but the only reason I'm not mad is cause I don't have a PS4.
If one of the reasons for this model is 4K exclusives that's just silly. Why would you make console exclusive games against yourself?
>>332296164
He never said he couldn't afford it, just that he wouldn't buy it.
>>332294516
Welcome to the master race friend.
Guess its time to sell my PS4 and Wii U.
>>332296269
>I bought my PS4
You don't own a PS4.
>>332296269
>I bought my PS4 with faith in Sony to deliver something similar to the PS2 library after a few years. Now I find out that all I got was 90% indie shit and HD remakes
This is entirely on you, friend. You saw the signs, but you chose to ignore them.
>>332296262
Nobody said that, imbecile
And you are a retard for believing that
If they start making games exclusive to it pulling the "grafics are too good for the old model to handle" shit i'm going to suicide bomb the fuckers.
>>332295329
>>332295101
I thought sonycucks only lived on neogaf?
>>332296225
>what is steam link
>>332296269
Fuck off faggot, unexpected things like this are what make owning a console a dynamic and exciting experience.
>>332296263
The irony here, just kill yourself you fucking idiot
>>332296415
>Sony alienates their consumer base by releasing 4K exclusives
>PS5 bombs on launch because everyone is now waiting on the new model
What is their source, OP?
What is their source?
>>332293463
Atleast MS might go the way of the iPhone and allow a trade in. E3 is going to be interesting this year. I think MS will have a better upgradeable system and more consumer friendly experience. PS4 is literally making you buy a new console. This is why I'm switching to PC.
>>332296351
whatever makes you feel better faggot enjoy sucking sony's cock
>>332296487
>unexpected
>buying a Gokistation
>>332294360
This
>>332296598
THERE IS NO SOURCE
PEOPLE ARE JUST GOBBLING THIS SHIT UP
>>332296479
Oh shit, you mean I can buy something and connect it to my TV in order to avoid buying something and connecting it to my TV? That's brilliant!
>>332293463
No, I would buy a PC.
>>332296613
Well that didn't sound like a microsoft shill at all.
Well that's good. Now we can buy a top of the line game console at the end of its lifecycle and play all the games we missed at pretty good framerates and resolution.
To be honest, resolution and graphics were never that big a deal for me, as long as the games ran at a solid 60, so if Bloodborne's able to run at 60 (or at the very least a solid 30) with this hardware upgrade, then I'm all for it.
>>332295589
I just said I was going to sell it to upgrade my PC. Do you even reading comprehension, retard?
>muh grafix
call me when it reaches 60
>>332293998
> that you didnt have to
You see, no one "has" to buy the new ps4, dumb blundertale poster
>"Buy a console, it'll last you an entire generation!"
>>332293463
>low cost, cheap to produce console
>sony profiting on every single PS4 sold
>sony says fuck you to 40 million owners and decides to release newer, higher cost version
>despite the fact that it's STILL selling like crack
Fuck them. I actually hope they go bankrupt now. This is a worse move than Microsoft ever pulled and that's really saying something. Not gonna buy this shit out of principle. Console gaming is over for me. In fact fuck it, time to stop being a manchild as gaming is fucking dead anyway. After Dark Souls III I'm calling it.
>tfw didnt buy a ps4 at launch
glad that this is happening we finally get a somewhat capable console and drink tears from the poor/cancerous sonyfags it's a winx2
>>332296841
60 whole grafix? C'mon dude, that ain't happening until PS5.
>>332294583
Don't worry, all your favorite games will get a re-release on the PS4K!
>>332293463
I have owned at least one console from every generation until this last one. Instead, I build a PC seeing the writing on the wall in terms of the direction console makers were going. While I'll admit there i certainly more maintenance involved, the switch has been 100% worth it - especially every time I see news like this.
I am not gloating or trying to fan the flame war, just saying to use logic and pay attention to the direction the industry is going. Every couple years you will be buying a $500 console. If you're okay with that, carry on.
>>332296487
I hope thats not real
Knowing Sony the console will be not only overpriced but also not capable of what they promise. Sony always lies about what their hardware is capable of.
>>332294636
This. If it can play ps,ps2,PS3 games that would sell on me. But we know how greedy they are so just pay $45 every 3 months (:
Will new games that come out in the future still be compatible with a non-4k PS4?
>>332296790
I agree, this is welcome news for me because I've been waiting for the PS4 to collect games I actually want to play before buying one. Now I get the choice between a slightly better PS4 or an original PS4 at a discount.
Sorry, early adopters. I learned that lesson after the Wii.
>>332296941
>time to stop being a manchild
>said during the text equivalent of an "I HATE YOU!! I'M RUNNING AWAY!!" tantrum
>>332296769
yeah if you're that allergic to wires you can, didnt know the ps4 was completely wireless though that's some next gen shit there right?
>>332294490
how is a system more powerful when it has the same specs?
>>332297060
Same here. I saw that Sony was charging for PSN /AND/ had PS+ I skipped out. Still might buy a Vita, tho.
>>332296908
to be fair a normal console gen would last 3-5 yrs max, last gen was an anomaly
>>332297294
>didnt know the ps4 was completely wireless
The fuck are you talking about?
Read what you're replying to before giving retarded responses.
>>332297245
>after the Wii
What did they do? I only remember they released smaller version, or do you mean Wii being upgraded Gamecube?
>>332293616
Early adopters (AKA retards) allow it.
>Existing PlayStation 4 owners would need to buy the new model
>>332297304
low level access to hardware, something dx12 / mantle / vulkun are trying to achieve. Also windows is a bitch with resources.
>>332293616
It's been done for years. Last gen had 3-5 different models of 360 and ps3
Microsoft is planning something similar (rumors)
This one giant fuck you to the customers
You faggots might as well admit it and built a PC now
So is there a source on this clickbait article?
>we want the Apple audience
But honestly, having two different specs MIGHT work if it's as simple as toggling 30/60 fps mode like Last of Us remastered. Sadly not everyone can tell the difference between 30/60 fps and most people use their PS4 as annual Madden/FIFA machine. Still sucks for the current PS4 owner though. Glad that I'm holding out.
>>332297518
What the fuck were you expecting?
>>332297443
I guess he means how it took a long ass time for the Wii to actually have good games.
Same shit happened with the PS3.
>>332297439
werent you bitching about cables you enormous faggot? youre gonna rewire anyway when you buy the ps4.5 like the good sonyfag that you are
Tbh if could return my "old" ps4 and add + 100$ i would buy this new model.
>>332297283
fuck off sonycuck. keep spreading your asscheeks and allowing corporations to fuck your ass, retard. I bet you're 16 years old.
>>332297304
Lower overhead APIs (more real performance, but less maintainable, harder to debug and program code) and careful optimization for a single specific hardware (it's not really "more performance", but you can tweak your shit to use every single bit of power because you've tested 100% of your product for it and don't need to account for unknowns or "just in case").
I can't wait to play my exclusives on my big TV like I usually do! Thanks, Sony!
>Releasing a barely upgraded version of your current console.
ISHYDDT
>>332293463
>tfw don't give a single fuck about vr.
>tfw been holding off on buying a ps4 since none of the good jrpgs are out yet
>tfw fat ps4 will be cheap as fuck soon
>>332296831
fair enough at least you learned your lesson
Kek, Sony pulling an Apple.
>>332294442
Sure they could. 50inch 4k tvs are as low as 600. So a game console could definitely have 4k and only cost 400. I mean the uhd player is already 400 and it's plays blurays
>>332297551
At best, it would be toggling between 24 and 30 fps.
>>332293463
if this makes regular ps4 really cheap then maybe i'll pick one up with bloodborne. but im not gonna hold my breath
>>332297593
I am not sure, I don't own one to begin with.
I just feel bad for people that fell for the PS4 meme.
>>332295718
No, consoles are more expensive in the long run since last gen.
You buy them for exclusives, a larger online community for certain games, and/or so you don't have to concern yourself with troubleshooting or upgrades.
>>332295849
Sony goes full retard whenever it's allowed to have the lead.
>>332297430
You mean 5 years minimum, they used to get released throughout their lifecycle and games that would last you years if you wanted them to (like arcade ports).
>>332297705
Worked well for the N3DS, why not?
Or is it only OK when Nintendo does it?
>>332293463
If this work and people buy it, is pretty much the end of consoles and probably is gonna lead to a crash.
>>332293463
Thanks for testing the beta console PS4cucks
>>332295106
What is PS Now?
>>332297719
No it couldn't. Don't kid yourself especially if you don't know anything about hardware.
>>332297908
well, tech does move pretty quickly nowadays not gonna be suprising if sony or microsoft if they actually decide to still enter the console war do yearly releases ala Iphones
>>332293961
>optimize for 1, optimize for 36 million
Do they think people making PC games have to optimize for literally every single hardware configuration possible or something?
>>332295106
/v/ will still buy and defend this shit.
Every corp has its share of retards.
>>332293463
>Nintendo's going full gimmick shit and fanbase since Wii/DS
>Microsoft has literally no exclusive title
>Sony's is alone in the market and going full Apple
That's it, consoles are dead.
I'm going to build a PC for gaming.
>>332297640
Not from a different room where my computer is, you illiterate fuck.
But that's okay, keep being triggered
>>332293463
Ok ps4 is my last console.
>>332295319
Sony lies CONSTANTLY. This isn't new.
>>332293463
Good thing I haven't bought a PS4
>>332297918
N3DS is like 150 so it's less of a blow to your wallet than 400. It's not the same at all.
>>332298172
PC keep getting cucked though, with Origins, Uplay, and Windows Store exclusivity, not to mention WB unable to release a single decent PC game.
Let's face it everyone, vidya is ded
>people start trading their old PS4s to gamestop in droves
>gamestop either dramatically lowers PS4 value somewhere between $150 to $250 or stop taking trade ins as a result
>everyone who wasn't lucky enough to trade it in sooner or find a good place to sell it as close to the original amount payed as possible will probably have to pay an extra amount likely somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 to $300 out of pocket to get the updated hardware
You better get on that shit now /v/
>>332298330
It's still requiring me to pay money for a console that should've lasted 10 years minimum. I find this a ripoff either way.
So more rumors right? Nothing of this is official? While OP links to a article you can't even read normally?
>>332298204
triggered by what exactly? I'm not the one about to get fucked hard in the ass
>>332298172
you've got nothing but pain in your future anon.
pc gaming is suffering.
>>332298172
Lmao if consoles die games die too retard
>>332298378
You're a fucking retard if you expected the 3ds to last 10 years. The only handheld to manage that is the original gameboy.
>>332297918
N3DS came out 4 years after the 3DS was on the market. And only received Wii ports, not brand new titles.
>>332294119
The Nintendo DS costed pennies compared to the PS4.
>>332298340
>with Origins, Uplay, and Windows Store exclusivity,
Origin is actually nearly as good as Steam, Uplay is meh, but yea, Windows Store is absolute fucking garbage.
That said, WB is irrelevant for the most part, aside from maybe Shadow of Mordor.
I can see a future, where Sony and Microsoft sell their equivalent of Steam Machines, and Nintendo is left as the only console manufacturer.
>>332298501
decades of failures doesn't mean its okay to keep failing.
>>332298172
Yep, consoles are fucked and the best part is that they basically killed one another all on their own.
>>332298340
>EA
>Ubishit
>Microsoft
any decent games worth playing from their platform was piratable anyway and the last somewhat decent games WB released on pc was fear and shadows of mordor the only true cucking pc gets is Nvidia gimping older cards
>>332293463
Bloodborne is locked to 30fps, PS4k would run it at 30fps maybe without the slowdowns.
>>332293463
Welp time to dump my PS4 on the market before the plebs notice. No use hanging on to this shit until it's resale value drops to like 0.000005%.
>>332298656
You know they're probably going to patch the more popular games to run at higher framerates, right?
>>332298079
No, but they need a range, if HD4000 is the most used GPU in the market they have to take it in consideration.
>>332298340
You're right.
But at least games cost less and I won't have to pay in order to play online on PC.
It's a shame, I fucking love Bloodborne, I was waiting to play Uncharted 4/The Last Guardian/Horizon, Persona, but those games are still not here and Sony plane to fuck everyone with another PS4 model.
I can't handle that, it's just too much.
I'm 32yo, definitely too old for this cuckery.
>>332294601
Even the 980ti can't do that. Not even the Titan X. Or any amd cards.
>>332297531
all minimal differences, performance wasn't effected by which model you had.
>>332298656
if there's a 280x/380 in the ps4.5 60fps is quite possible unless they locked game physics with the framerate it would actually be a decent purchase by xmas when games actually start releasing
>>332298767
It's not worth the effort. They already sold the game and got their money. No point in making them run better now.
Quick, contact Carmack and ask him about them focusing fixed specs helps too [cit.]
>>332298791
Good thing it's the GTX 970 these days.
People with toasters will get locked out, but those aren't the people spending money anyway. The range of hardware for people actually spending money on games isn't as wide as it used to be.
>>332298767
Do you know what patches are?
It will not even come out, all this speculation to keep shit alive because NO GAMES
>>332298791
>if HD4000 is the most used GPU in the market they have to take it in consideration.
Kek, they don't.
Trust me, iGPUs have absolutely shit support.
Also, everyone with a modern Intel CPU has an iGPU on the same die, and that's still counted in the hardware survey, pic related.
>>332293463
>though it is likely that the current model and the coming one would share the same software catalog, one of the people said.
>likely
Bullshit, they're planning to strong-arm PS4 owners into upgrading by making their future exclusives only playable on the V2 console or intentionally making it look/play worse than what the PS4 is capable of, basically 7th genning games for early PS4 adopters.
>>332297686
>I bet you're 16
What's hilarious here is that you seem to be under the impression that gaining an attitude of "fuck dem corporations, man!" Is a sign of maturity. It shows you're at an age where you'd view the college kids who scream that shit while using their apple products are mature.
You'll look back on yourself and laugh when someday you realize that there's literally nothing wrong with spending money on things you enjoy
>>332298831
>if there's a 280x/380 in the ps4.5 60fps is quite possible
Yea, that's not how it works m8.
It's just an APU, their only options are to
>unlock the 2 existing CUs on the APU, effectively making it an HD 7870
>have AMD design a brand new APU, which will most likely be on par with a 270x/280 at best
>>332299036
Whoops, wrong image.
>>332298803
OH FUCK
>sony anounces PS4 model revision
>Atlus delays Persona 5 a fourth time
>>332299105
>literally nothing wrong with spending money on things you enjoy
I bet you attract a shit load of gold diggers anon
>>332299138
Tbh it's most likely gonna be a 14nm version of the current PSQuad APU with either 1 or 2 CUs unlocked.
It'll be just enough to somewhat alleviate the slowdowns and nothing more.
Also, hardware decoders and upscalers for muh 4K shit.
>>332299230
Doesn't show up on my speccy. I think I must've disabled it in the BIOS or something.
>>332299260
>He bought a PS4 for The Last Persona XV
>that's the reason they left option to unlock framerate in Hitman on consoles
What the fuck type of source is this OP?
>99% of /v/ can't game in 4K
>There will soon be more sonyfriends gaming in 4K than PCucks
Oh ironing.
What a time to be alive.
It's official vidya games are dead, games are going to go back to early 2000 graphics on hendheld consoles because the market will be so low. Face it PC will still have a huge library of games but more than half of console owners will never think to switch to PC so big AAA games or any games will not be made for PC's either.
>>332299343
AKA throwing AMD a bone so they don't completely die, leaving everyone at the mercy of jewtel for all eternity.
>>332298828
> performance wasn't effected
oh yes it was, it was the same base hardware but the revision was newer, more compact, less noisy and more power efficient
>>332299343
>Tbh it's most likely gonna be a 14nm version of the current PSQuad APU with either 1 or 2 CUs unlocked.
Probably.
But, die shrinks are nothing new, we saw the same thing last gen too.
>>332299406
Wall Strret Journal have their own sources
>>332299467
The games didn't run any faster or with higher framerates.
>>332299497
The nose knows
>>332293463
I thought playing on consoles are supposedly to avoid this kind of thing. Aka keep the play field even and long hardware cycle.
If they are ok with this, consolities are puzzling me.
>>332296225
Just move your damn desktop to your living room. Just get a long hdmi cable. Or steam link.
>>332299138
well that would be sad and hilarious at the same time if theyre just gonna use a 7870 with a shitty tablet cpu
>>332299538
when did I ever say the ran faster you faggot? I said performance was better, performance means a wide range of things, not just how many frames per second it can output on your shitty screen, next time be more specific
>>332299570
>well that would be sad and hilarious at the same time if theyre just gonna use a 7870 with a shitty tablet cpu
That's pretty much what they do now.
Except it's closer to a 7850.
That's why performance is so shit in most games.
>>332299443
>400-600$ machine playing 4k/60fps
please, the only upside to this is at least it's gonna be a reliable 1080p/60fps machine which is fine by me since it's what it should have been from the start
>>332299463
If Zen and Polaris turn out to not be shit, that might make things easier for AMD.
I used to love AMD but their current FX CPUs are utter fucking shit AND power hogs, whereas their current GPUs, despite not being shit, still hog way too fucking much power.
I'd go back to them in a heartbeat if they released a competitive product, even if it was equally priced or even more expensive VS the Intel/nVidia counterparts. If nothing else, it'd ease the current practical duopoly situation on PC.
>>332298616
>the only true cucking pc gets is Nvidia gimping older cards
That's only with regards to the super duper hair physics that Nvidia had right? Like in TW3 if you turn off the super duper hair physics older Nvidia cards still perform ok or am I missing another cuckening fiesta?
Anyway fuck everything.
