>ancient dungeon
>lit torches
>fresh food and modern currency as loot
>>332293452
One thing that fascinated me about Skyrim is the citizen:bandit ratio.
I swear there are more bandits and hostile thugs than normal farmers.
>>332294841
>Raid a pre-war bunker that hasn't been opened in 400 years
>Pipe pistol
>Jet
Fucking Hell Bethesda.
>open ancient cave that hasn't been opened for thousands of years
>enemies are already there to ambush you
>>332294989
pipe pistols are prewar as well and jet is just meth+inhaler isnt it?
>>332293452
that girl is really hot makes me touch myself
>>332295123
jet is Brahmin shit
>>332295123
>pristine pre-war vault
>hasn't been open since the bomb
>pipe pistols in overseer's locker
Fuck you, that shit does not fly.
>>332294989
>enter abandoned dungeon
>open chest right in the entrance hall
>5 gold 2 iron arrows
>>332295231
Not in Bethesda Fallouts it isn't.
>>332294990
>playing GS without focus.png
>>332295217
That stretchy statue makes me want to touch myself
>ancient underground city
>every morning the population would have to leap across chasms, climb up giant prayer wheels and pull levers in order to get to work
>>332295276
check out the guns&ammo covers m8, pipe guns were a thing prewar you fucking autist
>>332295123
I don't know, are they?
>>332295302
Stop. Comments like that genuinely upset me.
Someone will post the twitter conversation with Hines soon enough. What a sorry state Beth has fallen into.
Like I always felt Pete Hines was a fucking tool, but I never knew he was THAT big of a cunt.
>>332295594
you were close, at least
>>332293452
jesus christ what in the actual fuck is that
>Skyrim
>enter ancient draugr dungeon sealed for thousands of years
>find modern books describing modern events
>>332295543
lmao
>>332295709
a paper sculpture
>>332293452
>Draugr dungeon never opened before
>fucking septims are everywhere
>>332295627
I drink my sorrows away. God bless Stolichnya. A toast to the Interplay of yore.
Nothing will ever recapture launching Fallout for the first time and hearing this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SefxmOv-88M
>>332295456
>be police officer in Raccoon city
>have to make sure all courtyard statues face the rising the sun and must put different colored gyms in the lion statues eye everytime you need to access the basement storage room.
That bitch is hot as fuck even if her chin is weird.
Also cool statue.
>>332295543
absolutely disgusting
>>332293452
God damn that pulls me out of a game. I haven't played a game in years where you truly are discovering ancient ruins for who knows how long, because everytime you enter there are torches and litter and shit that shouldn't be there.
>>332295543
But he wasn't even arguing realism, he was arguing consistency in the lore.
>>332295543
So the guy can't admit that they really don't give a shit about the Fallout lore? It's so goddamn obvious. Maybe they're bitter that Fallout's setting is more interesting than the Elder Scrolls.
>Oblivion
>Every single city NPC has a house
>They all go to sleep
>Skyrim
>Only about 20% of city NPCs have homes
>Most of the ones with homes don't even sleep. They just walk around all night.
>>332293452
The lighting in TES dungeons is so fucking stupid.
Why even have torches, lamps, and light spell effects if every dungeon is perfectly lit by default?
>>332296310
Just look at how badly they snub New Vegas in Fallout 4 and ESPECIALLY in that fucking IOS game.
Why are there no NV characters in Fallout Shelter? Bethesda is insanely bitter.
>>332296003
>orange tan
>designer/mid 30s fashion sense
>fake eyelashes
>blonde
shit taste anon.
>>332295543
So it is impossible that there's a pre-war drug named Jet and the one from Fallout 2 was named after that as they had similar attributes?
Let's say prewar Jet was made from cows instead of brahmin.
What exactly would be different? Or do you think Brahmin anuses and intestines are so radically different?
>>332296535
fuck off Hines
of course they're different
they're radioactive, two-headed mutant cows
She's cute :^3
>>332293452
Though I hate Skyrim I'll stick up for it here. There's lore you can read ingame that explains the draugr wake up daily and put out food, clean the joint and relight torches, as part of a ritual kind of thing. Doesn't quite explain where the food comes from bar "magic", but w/e
>>332296481
>Dungeons have tons of natural lighting sources. Light from holes in the cave roof. Windows. Some parts are basically "outdoors" with open sky.
>None of these exist in the exterior world. Only inside the dungeon.
>>332296535
Dude, I really hate this tendency the internet, especially Reddit, has to create elaborate headcanons to explain away dumbfuck plotholes.
Like dude, I don't fucking care about your bullshit, badly written and boring headcanon. We're going off what's in the game.
>>332293452
What are these called and where can I buy one?
>>332296485
I think they mentioned RobCo and Robert House offhand in 4, but yeah, 4 is a pile of shit
>>332296502
>orange tan
bad but not a big deal
>fashion sense
who cares
>fake eyelashes
bad but not a big deal
>blonde
literal master race. that is a trait shared among literally the most beautiful groups of people on earth. also blondes have higher IQ's than brunettes. only east asians are smarter.
>>332293452
most interesting webm I've seen all day
hows that shit work?
>>332296223
In Facry 3 the torches light themselves as you move forward, and it's kinda suggested that you're hallucinating them.
I know Fou Lu's tomb in BoF4 was dark and poorly lit.
>>332296902
>denial:the post
>>332296902
>blonde
>literal master race
>>332295710
>enter long-forgotten 'lost' temple
>find notes from recent previous explorer making his way through ruins
>still have to unlock doors, solve puzzles, avoid traps
Remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, when he makes his way through that last temple and clears the path for everyone else behind him? How is that not clear to people; dungeons don't and can't reset themselves unless either Draugr do it or 'muh magic'.
>>332295543
>Realism = consistency
Please tell me that man is not a writer.
>>332296864
Why is there four options to say that you'll agree to help.
>>332296864
They use a NV pistol as a logo as well. But it's insanely limited.
Like they have the most LITERALLY WHO characters from Fallout 3, but can't stand to include Caesar, Robert House, Harold, Cassidy, Veronica, etc etc?
I seriously get a vibe from Fallout Shelter than Behtesda is acutely aware of internet criticism of Fo3 and hates the Black Isle/Obsidian games on that basis.
Bethesda is the George Lucas of Videogames.
>>332295456
>dwarf fortress
>>332294841
I'm not a historian but can cities really have only 20+ people? How did a castle ever get built?
>>332297137
Vice president of Bethesda.
I shit you not. He's more important than Todd Howard.
>>332297137
That's how bad the writing is in Fo4, i wish I was kidding, I got 80 hours from the game but in the end I just realized how much I hated everything about it.
>>332297137
Quest design is hard, m'kai?
Also, consolitis doesn't help
>>332297135
>Pete Hines is the vice president of Bethesda Softworks and is in charge of public relations and marketing of games published by Bethesda.
>>332297139
Can't wait for TES VIit's gonna be great
>>332293452
>ancient dungeon
>any loot at all
you wanna be realistic, fuccboi? A huge portion of ancient tombs were robbed several years after their construction. They should be completely empty of anything valuable
>>332295884
>ancient Mayan city
>everyday Mayans had to hide behind pillars as searing sunbeams shined onto roads
Resident Evil 5 is so stupid
>>332296695
It also states that the Draugr are not real undead, they are human fanatics cursed to dry out doing these routines non-stop
>the more you know
>>332297251
That's even worse.
>Mass Effect 2
>"heat sinks" to justify bullshit ammo counters
>somehow replace every weapon in the galaxy in two years
>Jacob's loyalty mission
>his dad's been stranded for 10 years on some backwards planet building a harem of mentally retarded crewmembers
>shoot some crazy people
>they drop heat sinks
>>332296642
Oh I didn't know you're the fucking Brahmin fart inspector around here.
>>332297137
because there are four face buttons on the controller
>>332296902
>Implying she's genetically blonde
The fake tan + bleach blonde hair is such a shit tier look. Beyond that though the girl clearly has solid genetics. If she just stayed white and let her hair stay brown she'd look good.
>>332295770
>dragur dungeons never opened before
Except when they put the dragur in>>332295786
>>332296902
>blonde
>literal master race
oi vey
>>332297384
Don't forget that one gun that's older then literally everyone in the game and it uses those stupid heat sinks.
>>332297137
Because since they added the four-options-only dialogue wheel, Bethesda never has more or less than four options for everything.
Normally they don't actually bother to add many branching choices to their quests deeper than "yes" or "no", so there will be many things which in fallout 3 would have been one dialogue option to say "continue" or along those lines. Bethesda forcibly making themselves have 4 options on the wheel at all times, even when there's only one choice, highlights how stupidly bad they are at providing choice to the player.
The worst part is that every one of those 4 options being the same also quadruples the voice acting cost, which could have gone into paying people to actually diversify the game's options.
There are plenty of that sort of thing.
>>332297397
Even if there was such a thing as prewar jet, the game is still at fault for allowing this kind of 'mistaken' interpretation to occur.
>>332297331
They absolutely should. Barring a few unlocked rooms and secrets, dungeons should be barren, dirty, dangerous places to dwell. Back when D&D was a thing the rule of thumb was 80% of rooms should be empty. Makes finding something more rewarding/
>see thread like this
>people only talk about elder scrolls or fallout because these seem to be the only type of games that let you explore dungeons and caves and areas in first person freely
where are the other RPGs or open world RPG games that let you explore dungeons and caves and bases and stuff with enemies, traps, nearly everything interactable/lootable, secrets?
People bash elder scrolls/fallout but seriously what other games give you that freedom of exploring and interaction?
>>332295884
>Chief I have the paperwork for that arson ca-
>WELL DONE OFFICER SMITH NOW YOU JUST NEED TO FIND THE 4 CRYSTALS OF QUETZALCOATL TO UNLOCK THE FILING CABINET
>>332297191
outsourcing to chineese
>>332297580
>Collector guns in the DLC
>also use heat sinks
>>332297384
Holy shit, you're right, that's a huge fuck up. I guess they kind of had to have ammo lying around, but I guess they could explain that away with a crashed cargo ship nearby.
>>332295884
Kind of explainable with the whole "Umbrella built this city" and the whole police chief being an insane asshole.
>>332297587
>>332297618
>freedom of interaction
fallout: new vegas does
>>332296695
>clear dungeon of draugr
>torches still on
>nothing is different from when you left it
>>332297191
Most people in medieval Europe lived on the country side and cities weren't that big. However in Skyrim there are almost no people living on the country side.
>>332295543
>Not interested in discussing this
A cute euphemism for "I got blown the fuck out".
>>332297191
No, are you stupid?
20 people is a farm or charcoal burner's house.
Castles were either
1.Build from scratch, funded by king or lord or whatever, who paid workers. Workers were mostly from far away cities, since you can find 50 masons in a village.
2. Build upon older structures. Many of today's castles were constantly changing during timeline.
>>332297384
Heat sinks have always been in ME. According to lore in ME2 they became detachable because with kinetic barriers what's important is shooting as them down as quickly as possible.
>>332297618
>freedom of interacion
This shit is so poorly integrated within the game and is probably why Bethesda games will always be shit technically.
>>332297618
dragon age cisquisition :^)
gothic, risen, two world, wizardry, might and magic (without heroes), grimrock, divinity except the rts one, any diablo clone.
>>332297768
Heat sinks are so God damn stupid. Seriously, you're telling me that I can't fire one shot without a heat sink. Also, wouldn't the plasma weapons be everywhere since they are no longer in service and sold as surplus?
>>332298034
The New Vegas design document is longer than War and Peace.
>>332297824
Fewer, higher quality quests > tons of pointless shit
>>332296864
nice butt
>>332298072
There's probably a built in mechanism to stop you from firing and damaging the weapon without a heat sink.
>>332298107
Are you implying Fallout 3 quests were high quality?
>>332298107
Too bad Bethesdas quests are both pointless and few in number.
>>332298107
Hines please
just fuck off
>>332293452
>>332294841
>ancient dungeons
>lit torches
>every dungeon has a convenient door at its end that returns you to the entrance immediately
>>332296793
Women. check craigslist or backpage.
>>332297384
>Battle of the Citadel kill a lot of soldier
>rise in demand for mechs
>mechs everywhere in ME2
>ME3
>full scale war with the reaper
>no mechs anywhere
>>332296723
So you have no real counterargument and resorted on saying I'm from reddit.
And it's just a tiny entry.
Compare that with the shit codex "The chain that binds" which states that someone can just order his direct subordinates (and nobody else). Disregarding this codex you could get thrown out of the BoS. For a shitty plot crowbar.
>>332298239
I can actually remember some of the FO3 quests over NV's 5,000 bland fetch quests, so yes.
>>332298331
10/10 GOTYAY
>ancient dungeon
>huge, multiple floors
>it's explicitly stated the first couple floors are heavily explored
>you can find unopened treasure chests in areas that aren't hidden in the slightest
>>332297862
Welcome to American "medieval fantasy"
To be honest, they want to simulate the denseness in the city vs the sparseness of the countryside
>>332298292
Yeah that's stupid. Why would you build a tomb into a loop?
At first I thought it's great, since you don't need to bactrack, but when every fucking dungeon is like this it's really stupid.
>>332298098
many rpgs are. even cod can be as long if their story last more than 5 hours. it is effectively scene play script with design description: weapons, characters, all that shit.
>>332298107
>high quality quests
>hello would you help me find my piano
>go to vault 69 and bring me my guitar
>o no the vault is overrun by monsters, how could that happen
>i am such a craze for nukacola, bring me 30 bottles of nuka pepsi please
>yo, kill these zombies
>no, those guys instead, i will pay you
>nuke a city because their shithole blocks my view of absolutely nothing for next 50 kilometers
Real memorable. Fo3 had like 5 good quests. I still regret buying it.
>>332293452
That webm is REALLY hot.
Must be the combination of the doll-like girl and her handling that sculpture in a suggestive way
>>332298450
Witcher 3 did it pretty well, most people lived on the country side while there was one big city that was the right size and felt like an actual city.
>>332298372
My point is that your explanations are a tertiary piece of information. The only actual that anyone gives a fuck about is the information is what's contained within the game itself. I don't care what your fucking slackjaw explanation of Beth plotholes are. Bethesda have literally stated through their PR and community manager that they don't give a fuck about lore consistency. Beth clearly believes Jet is a pre-war drug, considering they have ads for it. Established continuity presents Jet as being a post war Drug that doesn't even fucking exist in Fallout 1.
But you're a self proclaimed victim, so many boohoos to you fuccboi.
>>332298686
The Tennpenny tower quest was great, but unintentionally. According to the karma system, letting the ghouls massace the residents if the good ending.
It's a trend in Beth games I've noticed - presenting obviously ambiguous or complex moral issues and boiling them down to a really distasteful good/bad dichotomy.
>>332293452
>modern currencies don't take up inventory space
>ancient currencies do
>>332298686
Tennypenny was such a kike.
>GOTTA BLOW UP THAT CITY SO I CAN LOOK AT ALL THIS NOTHING BETTER
My friend and I used to spend hours finding hilarious ways to kill him and launch his body off the tower, like pickpocketing 50 mines into his pocket.
>>332298292
roller coaster dungeons.
>>332296431
Not even every single npc. There were beggars in Oblivion that had beds to sleep in. In a quest in shivering isles, some rich guy swaps beds with one of the beggars
>>332297605
Yes it is.
Retards like you are blowing it out of proportion though.
>>332298717
i like to imagine she is playing with an elephant dick
>>332296864
Wait 4 has sexy outfits already without the GECK? I should replay it. Or maybe I should wait for the sex mods.
>>332297191
The scale of TES games is kinda fucked. I'd imagine in lore that the big cities would have hundreds of people. In the games, we're looking at like what, ~1,000 NPCs total?
It is probably a byproduct of being a game primarily developed for consoles. Skyrim on the 360 would shit the bed with a ton, and the PS3 version on release was fucked until 1.9.
That and how Skyrim was effectively built to be like a theme park where any penalty to the player is like a slap on the wrist. Any modders trying to make it otherwise end up putting so much stress on the game's fragile as fuck scripting engine.
>>332298847
>presenting obviously ambiguous or complex moral issues and boiling them down to a really distasteful good/bad dichotomy.
I wouldn't blame this entirely on Beth, though they're certainly guilty as any of it. Bioware's been doing it for ages and has probably gotten worse at it, not better. Shit's basically an industry standard now.
Replaying the Mass Erect series now and it's a little embarrassing how much stupid shit younger me got swept up in.
>Paragon is about being a big damn hero who saves everyone
>sticks up for Cerberus, a batshit insane known terrorist/mad scientist group at every opportunity
>that entire Legion loyalty mission
>>332295884
>be maid in re1 mansion
>have to solve a painting puzzle to get a key to open the pantry every day otherwise sawblades spin out and decapitate you
>>332299204
>Or maybe I should wait for the sex mods.
This is the sensible answer. If people at Beth are actually doing market research and seeing that people prefer their games with mod support, they'll continue to improve their mod support and POSSIBLY even improve the game as well.
>>332298967
Let's face it, that pathetic excuse of a quest was added in purely so that 10 minute reviewers could jerk over how awesome it was. Just like the oh-so-quirky Moira with the funny accent.
>>332293452
> Something has killed everyone in a fortress or dungeon
> Everything is still there, because that something is still there killing would-be thieves
>>332298968
I want to play that.
>game has nights
>they're not dark at all
looks at this dumb fuckin bitch with that stupid smile on her face, her bleached hair, two pounds of makeup and as fucking fake tan
jesus christ
>>332297768
Holy shit. What the fuck
>Collector guns propel projectiles using a biotic organ found within the gun
What the actual fuck Bioware
>>332296902
>not recognizing a fake blondes
>>332299708
They. Just. Don't. Care.
>>332299613
oh god that's the fucking worst in stealth games
>sitting two feet away from a small bush that gives off a shadow from lamplight
>guard walks by, looks me straight in the face
>doesn't see me becasue my "stealth meter" is at 90%
>>332297208
Well, Todd can do whatever the fuck he wants with the game, but within the restrictions set by Zenimax. Zenimax owns Bethesda.
>>332298847
I cannot understand how anyone can get so butzblasted about a sloppy onconsistency.
As I've said before, the chain that binds is a much more harmful codex to the lore and not when or how a drug started to exist.
Your're effectively trying to argue against Word of God as they could just retcon the information from F2 (which by the way had an Enclave mutant and talking Deathclaws)
>>332297618
silly anon, this place is full of normies and guess what games they play
>>332299816
>shoot guard with arrow from shadows
>"WHO'S THERE!?"
>"...I guess it was just the wind"
>goes back on patrol with an arrow sticking out of his arm
>>332298686
>>i am such a craze for nukacola, bring me 30 bottles of nuka pepsi please
>alternatively bring me the 30 bottles of crystal pepsi so i can fuck the crazy lady because despite us being the only two people living in two fucking shacks at the ass end of the wasteland i still can't get pussy
>>332299928
>(which by the way had an Enclave mutant and talking Deathclaws)
So what? That doesn't ruin any lore.
>>332294841
don't forget that bandit leaders are deadlier than dragons
>>332299798
They care about autistic integrity apparently
>>332300427
I was more amazed how OP are city guards.
Those guys could cleara every bandit lair and draugr dungeon.
>>332300427
>level up too many non combat skills
>because of level scaling random bandits becomes unkillable gods
>>332295709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZL6RGkPjws
>>332293452
I liked how in Witcher 3, there was often older, alternative currency (crowns, florens) in dungeons, that would have to be converted by a banker.
>>332299605
>ancient something that has killed everything that came into its ancient dungeon goes around and restocks and lights candles and makes sure droughr is scripted to wake up at just right times
>>332297962
What a convenient excuse to casualize a legitimately fun game mechanic into COD.
>>332299896
Makes you wonder if all his "lies" are all a product of Zenimax.
>>332299896
Bethesda IS Zenimax, they created Zeni to save their asses after how much money they used to make Morrowind.
>>332301117
They probably aren't. I think it's just convenient for Zenimax to let Tom Howard molyneux the shit out of his games.
>>332298107
Many, highest quality quests> Fewer, higher quality quests
FTFY
>>332301439
>it is better to be a millionaire for 100 years than to be poor for a day
>>332298427
Ragnarok or Steambot Chronicles?
>>332301539
>average human lifespan is ~75 years
>money for days to help change the world in your lifetime
>"i'd rather be poor for one day :^)"
>>332295276
>pristine treasure room
>has been sealed off since the bomb
>burnt/worn books
>rusty/faded goods
>right next to pristine vases/clothes/antiques
Goddamn, Treasures of Jamaica Plains.
>>332295317
I<3 MH ty for that ref
>>332296535
no.
Bethesda just doesn't give a fuck.
In F2 it's stated that most old chems are unbelivably hard to reproduce in the new climate.
Fuck your headcannon.
>>332298320
Wasn't fallout 4 supposed to have the most npcs in a city and have a larger map then past games?
>>332302626
>current year
>>332302772
>bethesda fags defend this
I M M E R S I O N
>Go into pre-war Chinese submarine
>Jet inside
>Posters for Nuka Cola on the walls
>>332302849
Bethesda is the living proof that you don't need talented programmers to make sales.
>>332293452
Girl's name is Katherine Quinn, if anyone's wondering.
>>332297139
>Harold
Anon.
Bethesda turned Harold into a tree with a face in DC and the killed him.
>>332303445
Why is she orange?
>>332303316
>chinese submariane
You mean there was one in Fallout 4?
Or do you mean the one in F2?
:^)
>>332303737
F4.
>>332303787
What the flying fuck
![YxvAZVa[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P9GQyke.jpg "YxvAZVa[1].jpg")
ayyy
>>332303870
thought so.
The one in 2 was pretty much empty
>>332303723
I'm guessing she used her own product a tad much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmUTUdiOUDk
>>332301724
I would rather be a millionaire for 100 years than millionaire for 50 years, but I would rather have 50 original and great quests than 1000 generic droughr dungeon quests.
>>332303787
>>332303873
>>332295884
At least a lot of the files were pretty hilarious with regular cops trying to figure out what the fuck was going on with the station and trying to just do their job.
>>332295543
>uhm, u do realise there are dragons in the game right?
>>332300424
The Enclave wants to destroy all mutants because they're unpure and not Aryan.
I mean it's only logical they're dipping a someone in a radiated cocktail of shit and engineer him further to use him as a warmachine. It's like Hitler appointed Ariel Sheckelstein as chief of commerce, it makes no sense.
But nobody gives a shit about that because that would mean you hated F2.
>>332303787
Where is the chip Todd?
There is a pci card with resistors, capacitors , jumpers and shit but there is no chip.
Why call something a chip that isn't a fucking chip, it is a fucking card.
>>332296706
Shit, I never realized.
Skyrim's world sure seems much better when you turn your brain off.
On the other hand there's shit like TW3's empty world
Why is nobody competent enough to do a good one, fuck.
>>332304249
Because Frank Horrigan is a super soldier, you mouth-breathing mong. It's even stated in the game that everyone dislikes him and is afraid of him but he's allowed to stay because he's patriotic and will defend the Enclave to his last breath.
Now, why are talking Deahclaws a contradiction?
>>332297527
>blonde is not good looking where are the black haired goddesses, goy?
>>332302519
It's headcanon you fucking samefagging piece of shit. I do not think that you are capable of lecturing me when you keep misspelling such a simple word despite spitting it out again and again. English isn't my first language but holy shit are you retarded? Stop posting already.
>>332295884
It's almost like Resident Evil has some of the dumbest writing in all of media.
>>332304717
>I have no more arguments
>better just critique his spelling, despite being a fucking hypocrite and having poor grammar myself
Ok
>>332303873
fuck me i got that exact gun too
>>332304308
I like how the dialogue changes if you have Broken Steel installed.
>"Oh, you're right, that makes sense...I will go into the reactor since I'm immune!"
>>332304717
>and this exhibit clearly shows the grammar nazi in action as he has lost the argument, and is now resorting to calling out his opponent's grammar rather than the argument they put forward.
>>332294841
This is true in all Bethesda games INCLUDING New Vegas desu family.
>>332295543
I don't really give too much of a crap about the aspie attention to lore you losers have, but that was a really shitty response on Pete Hines part. You're just reducing your own work down to something superficial. No wonder Bethesda games are so weak when it comes to narrative.
>>332304592
He is a Super Mutant with an engineered strain of the FEV you dipshit, allowing such a disgrace to live at all is unpatriotic.
And last time I've checked Jackson's chameleons did not have vocal cords.
Ohh don't tell me, they grew them out of boredom or radiation or magic.
>>332305156
As a matter of fact, NV isn't really a Bethesda game. They published it. And Bethesda publishes more things than just TES/Fallout.
>>332295534
Pipe guns ARE a thing, but it makes no sense for the fucking overseer to have a makeshift pistol. He could fucking buy one in prewar america.
>>332305156
Idk.
I only met a few bandits that had no association.
Most of them were part of "tribes"
They had a community.
And there weren't that many of them.
The Fiends even had a "city" of sorts.
They even traded.
meeting 10 Vipers on your way to Vegas isn't really a bandit infestation.
>>332305081
His argument was "no".
Oh wait that was your argument.
>>332305312
did you really play the game? let's be honest here.
>>332305457
I'm not even the same guy, you're just acting like a baby.
>>332305373
Yes, and Obsidian fanboys like to pretend it's amazing and flawless. It's a decent game but it has a lot of the same flaws bethesda games catch shit for.
>>332305409
Dude, there's endless amounts of powder gangers alone. If you count all the bandit factions together, they vastly outnumber the actual civilian and probably even NCR population in the Mojave.
>>332305580
But they still act like a community.
Powder gangers rob people travelling from NCR territory.(of course they will disperse after someone stabilishes controll over the region)
Fiends deal in chems.
Khans Farm and deal in chems.
Vipers do fuckall besides scripted attacks.They don't even have a home base.
Unlike fallout 3's random roaming retards with leadpipes.
What I mean is that all of them have some sort of revenue.
Something that keeps them alive.
They act like gangs instead of thieves.
>>332305521
Do you really want to argue if he was no mutant and never came into contact with the FEV?
>>332305312
>i haven't played the game: the post
And like I said, he's basically a walking weapon. They don't give a shit about him unless he's fighting to keep the Enclave alive.
Second, Deathclaws roar, meaning they have vocal cords. When they're exposed to FEV, it's entirely plausible (given that Fallouts 1 and 2 treat FEV like it can do anything) that the Enclave could engineer a Deathclaw to speak.
Morrowind had the best implementation of bandits and "bad guy" groups out of any bethesda game.
>>332306027
You need more than vocal cords to sound remotely like a human.
>>332299204
>>332299385
I never understood the point of sex mods. If you're going to the effort of reprogramming your game for it, you may as well download poser and some models and animations, it's the same.
>>332305953
Yes we get it your pile of shit is better than the other kids pile of shit.
>>332306106
Have you tried the sex mods in other Bethesda games? They're really good.
>>332306096
>You need more than vocal cords to sound remotely like a human.
Did you not fucking read
>When they're exposed to FEV, it's entirely plausible (given that Fallouts 1 and 2 treat FEV like it can do anything) that the Enclave could engineer a Deathclaw to speak.
>>332305373
Yes, and Obsidian fanboys like to pretend it's amazing and flawless. It's a decent game but it has a lot of the same flaws bethesda games catch shit for.
>>332305409
Dude, there's endless amounts of powder gangers alone. If you count all the bandit factions together, they vastly outnumber the actual civilian and probably even NCR population in the Mojave.
>>332305972
Nobody's saying he wasn't a mutant. We're just saying the enclave were using him as a disposable tool,
>>332306202
By transplanting a human throat and mouth and teeth into a deathclaw? Visually that's not hinted at at all in game.
>>332305953
Doesn't change the fact that there is no way the population could support a LARGER bandit population bro. Only the Kahns act like an actual self sufficient tribe.
>>332295884
>different colored gyms
>>332306027
So in Fallout 4 it would have been a lot smarter to resurrect Liberty Prime as a Synth?
>>332306171
>I lost so everything is shit
Tell me how it's illogical that NV had actual territory for the gangs and had backstories for them?
>>332306269
I never noticed them respawning.(will check it out)
Yes.There are more gangs in the lawless wild west than Lawmen,but at least you can do deals with them besides exchanging bullets for loot like you do in F3.
They act like a faction.
>>332297331
>you wanna be realistic, fuccboi? A huge portion of ancient tombs were robbed several years after their construction. They should be completely empty of anything valuable
What if they were filled by vicious, undead monsters that kill people?
>>332302772
it's like pottery
>>332306574
>Yes.There are more gangs in the lawless wild west than Lawmen
There's more gangs than there's PEOPLE. Whether they act like a faction or not doesn't change this rather major detail. The civilian population cannot support such an insane bandit pupulation. This is exactly as stupid in FO3 as it is in NV, and you can't give F3 shit for it while making excuses for the same problem being in NV.
>>332297000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yycrty8oOPA
>>332306740
But they are not all bandits.
They are fucking drug dealers,couriers,guardsmen etc.
In fallout 3 you couldn't interact with them in any meaningful way besides shooting and looting.
>>332306574
>I moved goalposts, therefore I won!
>>332306410
Who said it had to be that way? Ghouls talk normally but their jaws are shown to be almost falling off. Super Mutants talk normally so why can't scientists with literal magic goo make a Deathclaw speak English albeit with an animalistic accent?
>>332306940
>I burned the goalpost and took a dump on it
>I won!
>>332295317
Fucking kek!
>>332306558
How do those even compare? Liberty Prime was used because it's a giant fuck-you robot, not because it spouted anti-Communism shit.
If Liberty Prime's capabilities could've been placed into a synth body, why would the Brotherhood not use it?
>>332306907
They are almost entirely bandits. The Kahns are the exception, and even if you don't count them, everyone else is still an overwhelming majority. The fucking fiends alone are numerous enough to keep the NCR at bay, they kill and rape everything that moves and are too hopped up to do anything productive all the time. Whether you can do quests for them or not doesn't change the fact that a population that survives by preying on a SMALLER population is gonna go belly-up pretty fast.
>>332297824
>hiding half of Fallout 4's quests
>>332307167
k.
I accept it.
But it sorts itself out trough the game when you help restoring the order.
>>332304059
>That waist
>>332307167
I'm gonna jump in and just mention it's pretty fucking retarded to take the limitations of the shitty engine as any kind of population census.
There's a stupidly disproportionate number of bad dudes because the game would be pretty fucking boring after you took out the three dozen lawbreakers in the state.
>>332306574
Who said I lost?
It simply isn't more logical that raiders have names when a single group has a bigger population than Novac.
The raider groups can't live from the dry soil of the Mojave.
It's a shitty place as plains would feed so many more people. But there you've got a place made for nomads in a game without any real rain.
They're eating what? Stones?
>>332307163
Because synths can have a free will and emotions and the BoS are only using tools.
I think it compares quite well as Prime and Horrigan are mere tools for their superiors but the BoS would never use a Synth.
>>332303410
or good/interesting game design. You only need a brand. I swear to god, a normie-friend of mine almost got a vault-boy tattoo because "Fallout is just epic XD". He has never played 1 or 2 and knew nothing about the lore.
Good thing i managed to beat some sense into him.
His little brother handcrafted him a longboard (which is faggy enough on it's own, but damn, that little nigger is like 16 and is already doing busines which involves actual craftsmanship so more power to him) and he wanted to paint either again, vault-boy or Saitama onto it. When asked what he likes about it he just goes "ITS EPIC WHICKED!"
He's 28 by now.
>>332295534
>gun store
>somehow not completely looted
>safe is still locked
>open it up
>goddamn pipe pistol inside
I only played New Vegas. For a few hours. Then a whole mob of Legionaries spawned on the road right behind me and filled me with lead, even though I sprayed them all with fire and hit them with a grenade launcher. So I dropped it.
Guns and explosives don't go together with action RPGs.
>>332308256
>>332295534
>>332295276
So pipe guns are a thing again in Fallout 4?
And they are everywhere?
Even in fucking Fallout 2,Pipe Guns were only found early game in Klamath.
You threw it away as soon as you found anything else.
Or never get it because it's shit.
>>332308498
They exist and they're shit. IIRC they're the only weapons that use .38 ammo too.
>>332307909
>Because synths can have a free will and emotions
Key word is can. The Institute has plenty of synths that are being used as slaves. Super Mutants can have free will.
And if you can find a Synth that can throw nukes, shoot lasers from its eyes, the ability to disrupt energy fields, and be able to steamroll anything, the BoS would definitely use it.
>>332297824
Why don't you pick a quest that's more representative of NV quests instead of the single most complex one.
Why don't you point out that half of them are unmarked a bunch of the rest aren't actually quests like don't tread on the bear.
>>332302772
>abortion
Fucking edgelord writers I swear to God
>>332297076
>dungeons don't and can't reset themselves unless either Draugr do it
That's probably what happens. I mean they are cleaning the place up so might as well reset all the traps.
>>332308787
>what is moral integrity
>>332295217
this girl believes the sun comes out of a tube.
>dungeon sealed with magic
>no one has been inside for centuries
>it's full of creatures you've seen in other places
>guy is a reskin of previous bosses
>"I've been expecting you."
>>332303787
Why the fuck is this allowed?
>gotta hit two switches up on some cliffs to proceed through dungeon
>one of the party members can FUCKING FLY
>nobody even considers it and we have to take some roundabout way to get to them
>>332296864
The devs don't want people to make the wrong choice. That would only confuse and frustrate them. This way, the player experience is more streamlined, and a cohesive narrative benefits everyone. Any game that permits the player to fail is a bad game.
