One of them trains as a figher, enjoys the finer things in life, has friends, has sex, has a wife and kid, runs family business, thinks about a future for his family.
The other one trains, does nothing but training, thinks only about training and fighting.
They are equally as powerful.
WHAT THE FUCK CAPCOM
Actually, I think it's canon that Ken is stronger than Ryu because of those things.
>>332283613
Ken is canon stronger than normal Ryu.
There was this real world scientific research article that said something about athletes who have regular sex perform better.
>>332283794
Cammy a cutie
Ken has sex so his body produces more testosterone.
>>332283794
>why is she staying on my back, she didn't even attempt to cross up
>why do I have to do this
>I wish I was training at home
>>332284581
Why is he such an awkward virgin neet?
>Ryu just likes fighting
>Ken has something to fight for
It's standard anime rules, come on now op
>>332283697
Yes, Ryu has that inner demon bullshit holding him back and he's trying to brute force it since fighting is the only thing he knows, but then he learns to chill the fuck out by SF3.
Meanwhile Ken naturally taps into the Power of Nothingness because of the power of love and friendship and strong convictions to his hot wife and having a reason to fight and whatnot.
Clearly, Ryu gets around to fucking Sakura between V and 3.
>Clearly, Ryu gets around to fucking Sakura between V and 3.
Bullshit. Show me their product of sin as proof.
>>332285125
Ryu doesnt like fighting, he's looking for meaning. Whatever the fuck that means...
>>332285493
>show me their product of sin
You could've quietly looked into the matter and kept the findings to yourself. You could've prevented this, anon.
But you had to know, and you had to air the question openly. You have only yourself to blame for this now.
>>332285665
But the answer lies in battle though
>>332284820
Because he can still live with the money of the matches he enters.
It's like a neet, ecxept he fights instead of playing vidya/watching animoo.
>>332285665
>he's looking for meaning
Looks like Ken already found the answer and Ryu is just a bitter virgin nerd. No wonder he turns into Evil Ryu.
>>332286172
Everyone on /v/ should be Evil Anon by now.
>>332286172
>Implying meaning is the same for everyone
Elementary mistake, senpai.
>>332283613
Ken is just naturally talented.
Ryu is your average guy who got good.
>>332283613
>some people lift weights their entire lives and never really get good
>brother in law had never been in a gym in his life
>maxes out every machine in a month, no roids or hgh
Genetics are a bitch and there's nothing you can do about it, no matter what epic maymays /fit/ tells you.
>>332286290
Isn't that pretty much the truth though?
Anon might an hero sometimes, but he is never the hero.
>>332286290
We are, it's just that we lack the martial discipline to tap into the Satsui no Hadou.
Instead, we release sudden burst of it by shitposting and being cynical in general.
>>332283794
Dude just needs to get laid.
>>332283613
Makes sense. One is sane. The other has several mental disorders that hinder him.
Also, there is a limit of how much you can train a week if you don't want to injury yourself. Just because Ryu is a hobo it doesn't mean he can train more than Ken does.
>>332286428
>machines
I'm fucking ded, your brother in law is a weak bitch and so are you
I think they're equally as powerful exactly because they found strength in different ways, they're what the other lacks so when they train together they always learn from each others.
Ryu is asexual, while Ken is a normal human being with no mental disorder.
Ryu being a dumb sperg is one of the best accidentally canon things about Street Fighter.
Like the reason Sagat is scarred is because he beat the breaks off of Ryu and was like "Damn bro, okay. How about we call it quits?" and then Ryu went all "DARKNESS IMPRISONING ME!!!" and Shoryuken'd his shit.
"Evil" Ryu isn't even a thing and doesn't properly describe it. It's "Ryu with killing intent" aka "Ryu who is so salty that he is losing so he is literally possessed by salt demons".
He's like a walking parody of the FGC and no one catches on.
>>332286428
And no one lifts weights their entire life without getting fucking strong. People might have gym memberships their entire life but they make excuses and take breaks and never have a program with progression in mind they just fuck around their entire lives and tell themselves they're living a healthy lifestyle without going overboard like those "roidheads". What do you think qualifies your fat weak ass to act in the slightest bit knowledgable about fitness and genetics. Stick to what you know retard and yes I'm mad etc you got me good
Ryu is actually a very edgy character. I'm surprised you people don't condemn him for this when characters that have less edgy backstories are referred to as such.
>>332288816
But everyone says Ryu is a faggot, he's /v/ incarnate.
>dedicates his life to training
>is weaker than Ken, a normal fag
>is literally a jobber, and has to turn evil to ever beat someone
Don't you see a connection ?
>>332288247
t. Zangief Lowtierov
>>332288107
>Ryu being a dumb sperg is one of the best accidentally
It's not an accident, I can assure you.
Ryu was designed to be an autistic hermit.
>>332286472
subtle
>>332283613
Well one of them is a chink, so it explains the lack of everything.
>>332283613
Which one of the two is Bison interested in again?
I bet Ryu beats Ken more regularly than Ken beats Ryu.
>>332290528
Ryu
>>332283613
>Day 28
>Still no Alex.
Hello SF thread, being a pleb here, I just have a question.
Is SFV a worse game, gameplay-wise, than SFIV or what's the verdict?
>>332292054
it's easier but not better since it is kind of subjective. Some people liked it, some people didn't
>>332285328
Is this Oficial or a you talking from the ass???
Did Ken really tap into power of nothingness???
>>332292143
Just wondering since I watched parts of the NorCal regionals, and some of the gameplay did seem different. Some characters seem imbalanced as hell too.
>>332290342
>Chink
>One of them
>>332292310
jesus christ /v/
>>332292310
The game is not perfect but as far as i know the game is quite balanced, it just relies too much on 50/50 situations.
>>332292829
What did I do?
>>332292951
You clearly havent played the game yet you want to make statements about characters being OP.
Fucking retard.
>>332293047
Well you fail to understand the semantic meaning of the word "seem" then you fucking pedantic faggot.
he doesnt have money to eat,
so he can never reach his full potential
>>332286290
we arent?
whats /b/ for then?
>>332293185
You're still a retard and a faggot.
>>332293185
same guy from here>>332292143
some stuff might be updated in the future like Mika's impossible set ups and some other minor stuff but the game is alright. What exactly seems OP to you?
>>332293375
I thought for example, Necallis neutrals did a lot of damage compared to other characters.
I might be wrong, but I'm sure half the thread will correct me like this colossal fag>>332293368
>Capcom wants to make a Street Fighter game that is chronologically further than all others
>Chicken out and put it before 3 because they couldn't imagine making veteran fighters old
>>332293542
what the fuck is a neutral?
stop posting.
>>332283613
>one is rich enough to get all the resources and time he wants to focus on training
>other one has to bother getting his own food, hitching a ride or just walking to get to somewhere, finding a tree to shit on
Ryu wastes time by just trying to live. Also, you don't see that much buff poor people IRL, Ryu can't afford good healthy food or steroids
>Game has been "simplified for a wider audience" aka casuals who just want to mash buttons
>Slow as shit movement and walk speed
>Huge floaty jumps with next to no horizontal range
>Tiny ranged normal's
>Tiny hitboxes on everything
>Normal's have a shitty priority system
>Throws are slow as shit with no range
>Links are gone and combos are now mashable
>Huge buffer window
>No close standing attacks
>No neutral jump attacks
>Game is full of comeback mechanics desinged to "lower the effectivness of player skill"
>Only super can chip kill
>V-Trigger a huge universal buff you get as a rewarded for losing
>V-Reverasl a get out of jail free you are rewarded with for losing
>Receve less damage the less health you have
>Worst roster in a street fighter game to date fan favorites replaced with characters no one wanted like birdie and rmika
>Risk/Reward is skewed due to high damage from jump ins yet pitifully low damage on anti airs and how you can no longer get large damage punishes from a jab
>Huge amounts input lag
>Constant fps loss on ps4 and high end PC's
>Random input drops
>Dumbed down mechanics
>Top players already saying the game is casual garbage
>P2W
>Game literally released in an unfinished state
>Online doesn't work correctly
>No punishment for rage quitters
>Only 2 player lobbies that dont even work most of the time
>error 40002
>>332293736
Shut the fuck up nigger.
I came into the thread asking questions, and you're acting like a 12 year old autist.
Either take your meds, or fuck off.
Ryu is pure,you depraved perverted scum will never be able to understand his views and goals
>>332293972
NO U
>>332293972
No seriously, eat a dick.
>>332294121
shh, youre on a place where nobody here has goals of their own other than making everyone else feel more miserable than them. Of course they wouldn't understand.
>>332294243
You first asshole.
>>332294310
NO U
>>332294121
Ken is naturally pure, Ryu has to try hard and strive toward it to not become a monster.
>>332293728
>they couldn't imagine
More like the fans would riot
>>332292284
I think it's mentioned at some point that it comes natural to him, since he lives a really fulfilled life. Can't honestly remember where I read it though, this was years ago when SFIV released and we still had the fightan general on /v/, while /vg/ wasn't even a thing.
>>332293736
Standing attacks. Like not moving the stick or performing inputs or anything. Having good neutrals is usually more valuable than a lot of flashy shit.
>>332294454
If Ken never trained in japan in his youth he would have been a colossal trust fund douchebag.
who cares? Ken is Ryu's sugar daddy anyway.
>>332293367
Normies.
>>332283613
doesnt matter, they are both 5'7" manlets, will never be truly strong.
>>332283613
In SFIII they let extremely clear that Ryu thinks Ken's family is holding him back, but the truth was is that his family was pushing him even further than what Ryu could be.
Ken was stronger than Ryu in several points of the SF canon.
>>332286321
Ken found HIS answer. Ryu still searches for it.
Ken wins.
>>332294839
Those are and have always been referred to as buttons and normals. Neutrals isn't an actual FG term.
>>332292054
There is no verdict you fucking scrub. The game was just released and not everything was discovered yet.
This kind of retarded arguments wont get you anywhere. Back to training mode with you, scrub.
>>332295823
Is this the epic brazzers mememaster pornstar ?
>>332296086
You wouldn't be laughing if you saw his dick
So when's the march update supposed to go live? 10PT right?
>>332293542
Necalli is likely mid-tier at best. But that doesn't mean shit because the difference between tiers in SF5 is miniscule. Pretty much every character is doing well in tournaments.
>>332283613
Doesn't Ryu also have to constantly have to hold himself back because of the Satsu Hadou?
>>332291337
Even if he does Ken doesn't even try as hard and has a Hot Wife and a job and a roof over his head.
Ryu is a "Fight Bum" who probably eats trash out of dumpsters as part of his "training" or "ascetic lifestyle".
>>332283794
why the fuck are they so shiny?
>>332296565
Ryu is too busy finding himself in crossovers
>>332295908
"buttons" didn't become a thing until fairly recently.
neutral comes from the 3d fighters. and has been around since the first tekken, if not VF.
>>332283613
I thing Zangief says it best.
>>332288816
>Ryu
>edgy
How? He's one of the nicest guys ever. When Sakura came up to him he was polite and gave her a match and explained why he didn't want to train her(cause he felt that he had a lot to learn himself).
>>332297097
>neutral comes from the 3d fighters
'Neutral' has a specific meaning for 3D fighters, and it isn't that.
>>332297463
it's a 5button, what are you two arguing about if not that.
>>332295823
>muh muh manlets
>6" 3' mustard rays
Fuck off you insecure faggot
>>332283902
>taking Manswers seriously
>>332283613
Ryu holds himself back cause dark hadou shit, if he actually went into it he would be stronger and a lot of his training is finding out how to control himself
Ken accidentally over came it by being a normie and not being drawn into darkness
Gouken however is stronger than both and overcame it without having a hot wife but with training and understanding. Which is what Ryu would become if capcom ever allowed him to age
>>332297792
found the manlet
>>332298039
>Manlet
Dont act like you're big hobbit, internet tough guys are shortest ones IRL.
>>332297987
And Gouken got fucking rekt by the true OG fruit-seller shoto
>>332298154
>if i'm short everyone else is
leprechaun are adorable
>>332297987
is that an in-game screenshot? his model looks so good there
Ken has those donald trump rich boy genes
>>332298312
>Acting like a internet tranny
Suddenly passive-agressivism.
>>332298190
Nope, they have a fight to see who will train Ryu at the end of 4. We don't see the outcome, but as he is training with Gouken it must have been him or they came to some kind of agreement.
>>332297140
Based Zangief knows the true goal is good food and gains
>>332298438
its funny you bring transvestites up, your height is probably average for a female, so you'd be a great candidate to get a sex change
unless you're shorter than even women
>>332298713
That insult was grade school tier.
>>332298713
>Shorther than woman
>So says the hobbit
Dont you have a ring to throw away Frodo?
>>332297213
Literally the opening to SFV's story has Ryu going on about his inner demons.Well, the Tutorial's story, the actual story modes mean jack shit.
>>332298313
Yes.
SFV is a very good looking game, they nailed the lighting and shaders.
Shame about some characters' faces though.
>>332292681
Ken's American, Ryu's Japanese
What's your point?
>>332299070
>just repeating yourself
you're an angry guy huh
short fuse
>>332293258
>Birdie will only get stronger post V
>>332290342
Do you even know what 'chink' means you stupid meme-loving fuck?
>>332297987
Ken is like the Michaelangelo of TMNT. Gets the shittiest weapon, barely trains but keeps up with his brothers. If he actually hyperbolic time chambered he would be stronger. Ken has way more potential than Ryu imo.
>>332283613
Ryu has won all but maybe one of their fights.
>>332283613
>>332288107
Ryu hands down is one of the best characters in fighting.
He represents the average player that sits at home practicing all day, doesn't get any better than throws his stick when he loses and gives an innocent bystander a permanent wound.
Meanwhile Ken represents the average FGC pro. Shows up to the tournament without practicing, wins everything, pats Ryu on the head then goes back home to fuck his wife
>>332299881
Not quite accurate as Ken trains a load as well. He is famous for being a champion martial artists as well as just rich
>>332297792
is that bold and brash?
>>332283794
>>332300508
>>332291337
Didn't PXZ2 make a big deal about how Ken's only mental weakness is his jealousy towards Ryu's level of strength
>>332300316
is that supposed to be ken's female transformation from svc chaos?
>>332283794
>Ken is canon stronger than normal Ryu.
Really? Sauce? I'm not a lorefag but this is interesting
>>332300902
Midnight Bliss Iori is still so good.
>>332299125
Hold on now, anon. SFV is pretty ugly. The fuck is with the lighting on Shadaloo Base? Why are the textures so awful in most stages? Why fill stages like Apprentice Ally with moving pieces that are jarringly rendered in 30fps. Clipping. Awful faces.
>>332298535
That was just non canon is all.
>>332301632
Yeah I agree with this guy.
There's bits and pieces of the game that look really great but by and large it's the ugliest game on the market. They tried too hard to emulate 2D while being 3D so everyone just looks ridiculous. I hate those ribbon particles everyone has, too.
who are the best guides for Sakura, Birdie and Karin?
>>332301086
it's canon that ryu actually has the better win record. and it's canon that ryu has to work harder to maintain it.
it's a marginal difference at best.
>>332283613
Ken is a prodigy.
Ryu is a hobo.
>>332294454
He's not pure
He's whole
https://youtu.be/3FYF5gUQTmY
It ain't called the Hadoryu now is it
>>332302195
Some people hit their talent ceiling hard though. It's not like Ken could've definitively said that "if I train like Ryu I would've wiped the floor with him."
It's like 100 m sprint. A lot of really fit people with marginal training can do 11.8s sprint, but to break the 10.8s barrier requires dedicated training and even then most people don't have the genes for it.
One can say it is marginal, but at the end that marginal difference might be the difference between beating M.Bison or getting owned by him.
>>332283613
that's the power of love
>>332286428
Does your brother also weigh more than you too?
>machines
Oh i am laffin
>>332293871
>EVERY THREAD
>ONE REPLY MAX
Why do you keep trying?
>>332283613
If Ken is stronger why are so many villains obsessed with Ryu and his true power? Even Oro says He will train Ryu to unleash his true potential in 3rd Strike ending
Still waiting for a SF game when they finally make Ryu the final boss
>>332303869
Congrats you gave him his second (You), retard.
>>332304472
>Destiny
What's so good about this game?
>>332300316
Ken is probably one of the most attractive male character in the series yet they managed to completely fuck him up in V.
>>332283794
If things turn to shit, just let the Satsui Hado rip.
Ryu is always getting the shit beaten out of him just to pull a Satsui on people.
>>332299198
Retard.
>>332286428
>MUH genetics.
>>332304827
Also why are his eyes brown ingame even though they're clearly blue in the story mode?
>>332304827
Vega is better.
>>332305045
>healthism
Holy shit what the fuck ?
Why are people that stupid ?
desu Zangief should just fuck everyone up look at his size COMMUNISM STRONK
>>332300902
>That Hugo
>>332305581
Tfw no more Hugo to put Zangief in his place
>>332305917
The entire game should just be Hugo vs Zangief. The other fighters can compete in some kind of a sissy tournament for women and nu males.
>>332293728
Is not like anyone ages in the SF universe though. Is completely arbitrary.
>>332294707
Fans would only riot if the new design is shitty, if it's good it's good.
Who the fuck doesn't like Uncle Terry from Garou?
Capcom's insecurity of changing their characters comes from the fact they're too iconic, and they fear they might not be recognized by the general public if they change too much, thus harming sales.
>>332306139
Okay Birdie can come too but that's it.
>>332283613
Why does Ken's head look so small compared to Ryu's.
>>332292054
As someone who started with 4, I like 5 a lot better
>>332300902
I'd play femGuile and femGouki
>that poison
subtle
>>332283613
>that pic
Did they fix Ken?
>>332294121
If he was pure he wouldn't have to deal endlessly with muh satsui no hadou bullshit. Pure people don't feel "killing intent" just because they're salty they're losing a match.
He almost tapped into SnH against fucking Laura of all people, he's a mess in current canon. He can't even overcome SnH by himself either, needing Gouken's help to seal it away (but it's still there in V), and Necalli will likely do something to it when the cinematic mode comes out.
SnH was supposed to be an Alpha thing that stayed in Alpha, but Capcom lost faith in their main character and feel like the only way to make him interesting is by having him grieve endlessly about his dark side.
They ruined Ryu, a character that used to be cool.
>>332295112
Yeah now hes just a colossal trust fund douchebag who can throw fireballs.
>>332306812
>Birdie gets better implementation than Ryu, the face of fighting games
>>332306718
Alternate outfit.
His Alpha days.
>>332300902
>Akuma
Hot.
