So, Dark Souls 3 pretty much confirms that Dark Souls 2 is not canon?
>>332278863
Why would you even think Dark Souls 2 was canon? Let me guess, you saw people posting memes so you thought you would copy them to try and fit in.
So, do you feel like you fit in now?
Have you even played Dark Souls 2? There are enough references, items and lore which confirms that Drangleic was once Lordron.
>>332279050
Dark Souls 3 puts doubt to that, considering you revisit locations from Lordran as they were in Dark Souls 1. About the only things that seem to be canon about 2 is the appearance of the giants.
DS3 acknowledges existence of Vendrick but refers to him as "old king of Want" who was a sore loser and utterly fucked up his entire life. It also references Caitha and a few of DS2 countries. But the rest of DS2 lore including Aldia is completely ignored.
>>332278863
das3 is so trash thank for saving me 60 dollars i can now spend on my other half also known as the love of my life and her son
>>332279241
There are items and lore which directly link DS3 to Ds2 and that 2 was an age long ago.
Pic 1/3
>>332279590
Pic 2/3
>>332279650
Pic 3/3
Also do you remember Lucatiel of Mirrah and her brother from DS2?
The Mirrah armor set and the Mirrah sword are in DS3. These are just a few things I know of but I am willing to bet there is more than that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrWexCDOw6E
>>332279803
Forgot pic
>>332279590
>>332279650
>>332279803
Is there any truth to the rumor I've heard about Dark Souls 2's throne of want being a fake kiln?
>>332279590
>>332279650
>>332279857
>Drang
>not Drangleic
Why?
>>332279886
The name probably got messed up over time or was changed after you linked/didn't link the flame.
>>332278863
the fact that the nashandra and the queens from all the dlc were shards of manus pretty much seals that dark souls 2 is canon. there is other things too, but this is the most simple to explain.
>>332279050
drangleic was NOT lordron, but at one point was inhabited by those whole left anor londo. hence the similar architecture and old dragonslayer.
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>>332279650
>They quickly became known for shieldless, aggressive tactics that struck fear into the hearts of men.
Is this a reference to how shields didn't see much use in Dark Souls II?
Really?
I like how you find one of the DS2 sets in a giant pile of giant's excrement.
>>332279863
i have doubts its a kiln at all considering nashandra wanted you to open the path to it, but to continue the age of dark all she had to do was keep people from lighting the fire. unless she was just greedy for a soul of a monarch, but there is still no kindling of of flame from what i can tell from the throne of want.
Dark Souls 3 does reference some things from Dark Souls 2, but the story is essentially written as if Dark Souls 2 never happened. So I guess it's either pseudo canon, or not canon with just cameo appearances in DS3.
Like it is begrudgingly acknowledged in some ways but it's also disregarded. I'm going with it not being canon and the references are more just cameos.
>>332279590
>>332279650
>>332279803
>>332279857
Forgot that there is also one of the old hags from 2 in 3.
Does Manus play a part in DS3, or even referenced?
It would be interesting if From continued his influence.
>>332280171
I heard something along the lines of the throne basically being a giant distraction for the protagonist of DS2 and a trap too, to prevent them from trying to break the cycle or something.
>>332280331
yeah, im not really sure of what exactly the throne of want is or does. DS2 is about how vendrick and aldia were trying to find a way to break the curse of the hollow, no so much about renewing the age of fire or continuing the age of dark.
>>332280181
It just goes off with the idea that the concept of time in DS2 was really fucked up or something.
>>332280540
In which case, I'm betting the DLC will be about the Abyss, the Primordial Serpents and probably DS2 in some form or another.
>>332280724
Estus really is way too fast.
>>332280724
Holy shit, the fume knight greatsword
>>332280724
Fume Ultra Greatsword is flat out the best weapon in the game, reaching over 720 attack rating at +5 with 50 STR
I've heard that the lore implies the Cursed Undead from DS2 was the only one who was strong enough to break the cycle since he had all the crowns and lord souls, but the Throne of Want was a fake version of the kiln that prevented that and he was tricked into sitting on it by the serpents.
>>332280957
You mean the strongest.
>>332279590
>>332279650
>>332279857
>DS1 shitters getting absolutely rekt
>>332280957
I hope there's at least a way to get a greatsword with a luck multiplier.
>>332281016
>tfw getting tricked by the emerald herald to collect all of the OG lord souls and crowns of kings and then sealing them up for eternity in the throne of want so no good can ever come to anyone
bet that bitch was a projection of serpent herself
>>332281062
Best. Total super armor during attacks, insane range, 2hL2 can block two hits from a greataxe and track 180 degrees, oneshots people on guard breaks, backstabs, and ripostes, and breaks guards in one hit.
That's without hornet ring.
STR is god in DaS3.
>>332281216
Hollow infusion.
Did Miyazaki make a proper ending this time or is it just worthless trash like in DS1?
>>332280181
>but the story is essentially written as if Dark Souls 2 never happened
In DaS3 the age of fire/dark is at its end.
This forced the fire to reawaken all previous lords of cinder to reignite the flame that is fading for good.
This pretty much makes sense of DaS2 second ending where the cursed one refuse to lit the fire or become the dark lord.
>tfw by the time it really launches they've nerfed str to the ground and we're surrounded by katanafags again
>>332281319
>Did Miyazaki make a proper ending this time or is it just worthless trash like in DS1?
Nope.
>>332280074
Wait... Really? That'd awesome
>>332281319
One of them is a proper ending.
>>332281480
Yes, Llewellyn set in Cathedral of the Deep.
>>332281246
It's also an UGS so you just get parried instantly and lose.
>>332278863
Don't the giant memories appear in DaS3? I think it is canon.
>>332280074
They put DS1 in DS3?
>playing ds2
>having fun
richard's rapier is such a fun weapon
>>332281874
>Don't the giant memories appear in DaS3
no
>>332279590
>>332279650
>powerstance is gone
>>332280181
I'm very curious in what way someone could write Dark Souls III "as if Dark Souls II never happened" considering how irrelevant Dark Souls II is to the lore.
That's what I don't get about people who want Dark Souls II to be non-canon so much, it has exactly two plot points that directly affect the characterization or fate of previously-shown characters [Papa Nito is confirmed as being a chill bastard, and Seath is strongly implied to still be exerting its will upon the world], and the only thing stated about its story that has long-reaching effects is what Dark Souls III already recognizes [there's been a long cycle of fire fading more and more, with powerful souls in each case sacrificing themselves to keep it lit for just another era].
It's not like the game reveals that Everlasting Dragons were actually katana-wielding ninjas or something.
>>332282026
They do though. I've seen the trees of the giant memories with my own two eyes.
Dark Souls 2 being canon doesn't contradict anything in Dark Souls 3. There's even a Dark Souls 2 giant corpse tree in Firelink Shrine.
The most likely explanation is that Dark Souls 2 simply took place in another location, and the thing Vendrick stole from the land of giants was the lordvessel containing the lord souls we put there in Dark Souls 1.
From what I've seen in Dark Souls 3, the closest place to Lordran we get to see in 2 is Eleum Loyce.
>>332282270
there's no fucking giant memories in ds3, just a lone giant tree
>>332282270
anon, giants turn to great trees when they die. its not necessarily their memories. unless of course you find another ashen mist heart or equivalent in the game and get to go memory diving.you are now aware that the bottom of ash lake is a giant graveyard from where gwyn laid the smackdown
>>332282212
did they ever explain why ornstein was in ds2
>>332278863
Good, Dark Souls 2 was shit.
>>332282441
There was nothing to explain since it was plain as day to anyone with a halfway functioning brain.
>>332282441
was a clone made by the people who flew from anor londo when it all started falling to shit. its why heides looks half like anor londo and half like somewhere else
>>332282441
>Ornstein
Alright. Three characters.
>>332282441
Absolutely not.
>>332282138
You can still use offhand weapons
>>332282579
What's the name of Lucatiel's Armor in DS3?
>>332282579
And there are tons of dual weapons which are better than powerstancing ever was
>>332282579
you could use them exactly the same way in ds1
>>332282535
[citation needed]
It just doesn't make any fucking sense, and any attempt to explain it is not in any way based on information present within the game.
>>332282441
Nope. It is forever a mystery!
>>332282315
ive actually really started to enjoy that dark souls 2 shows what other powerful countries were up to in regards to the curse and the ages of fire and dark, when their great people had no access to the kiln of the first fire to kindle the flame. the only shame is it required the DLC to really get the feel for it, with the drangliec knights abandoning drangliec and worshipping sihn in shulva or raime ending up at brume tower.
>>332278863
DaS2 tells you that it isn't.
>>332282686
No, you couldn't combo L1s in DaS1. Left hand weapons use their right hand R1 combo, sometimes as an L2.
maybe
>>332281970
>richard
God damn it, it's Ricard not Richard.
>>332282692
well its certainly not orenstien. the architecture is exactly like anor londo and it is cannon in dark souls 1 that everyone abandoned anor londo and sought out new lands.
>>332282770
WAIT
WHAT
>>332282323
And the giants literally only appear in DaS2. So, it's canon?
>>332282770
>>332282770
These are some shit animations. Thank goodness I am not buying a hackjob.
>>332282809
The architecture is nothing like Anor Londo.
The description of the Dragonslayer Spear clearly refers to The Dragonslayer, Ornstein, not an imitation, while the rest of the items related to the boss in 2 refer to someone "reminiscent of" him.
Like I said, it makes no fucking sense, and the only reason he exists in the game at all is to pander to fans of the previous game.
>>332282579
Hows the parry system? I hear it's just as shit as it was in DaS2 but at least the Riposte functionality is back to DaS.
>>332278863
>tfw noChaotic Eleum Loyce DLC
>tfw noArtic Brume Ruins DLC
>>332282418
>Ash lake
>A graveyard
Well if it is it's a pretty empty graveyard. All I remember from that place is farming twink from those tough ass clams. Also that flying Hydra.
>>332282579
This is literally all I wanted to know
Also the new rapier parry looks fucking sexy. Does it share the same animation with the parrying dagger?
>>332282952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsQdF7-CTAQ
>>332282952
It's like Dark Souls 1, but the parry windows is smaller. They even managed to somehow make it work properly in PvP, no more having to predict attacks and account for latency.
>>332282315
>There's even a Dark Souls 2 giant corpse tree in Firelink Shrine
Post pictures
>>332282932
>it makes no fucking sense, and the only reason he exists in the game
>strong souls remain long after the death of the original owner
>lord souls are around, influencing the big bosses
>Ornstein's soul is tooArtorias' soul isn't because he's a jobber
>>332282932
if you think this looks nothing like the architecture in anor londo then i have no reason to continue this conversation with you as your clearly an idiot, regardless of why orenstien was in the game or not.
*unsheates katana*
>>332282441
They explained that he left Anor Londo in search for Gwyn's firstborn, that's about it.
>>332282770
Yeah alright but HOW ARE THE COVENANTS
>>332283128
Dickwraiths got a makeover?
>>332283052
Great my parry the world days aren't coming back after all.
Couldn't stand 2's system and never could get used to the change.
>>332283108
>>332283143
they're just shitty rings now
>>332283128
Why can you walk and drink eatus at the same time now?
>>332283214
>>332283193
The thing is, it works the exact same way in PvP. Parrying in PvP is the same as in PvE. It's actually doable instead of prediction bullshit in DaS1.
>>332280724
>walking while sipping
into the trash it goes
>>332283128
I fucking love that skill with the katanas
All the weaponskills they added to katanas made them so much more unique, the iaito stances and such make me fully erect
>>332283280
>Ripping off real world locations
MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!
>>332283248
so that it's harder to punish, of course
>>332283337
Yeah that part is nice at least.
>>332283372
The claymore is still gonna end up being the best sword.
>>332283143
Pretty fantastic to the previous games. Since you can swap with items in your inventory it's super easy to swap. The purple covenant is amazing for people that want to duel and one of the other covenants is specifically for earning respecs
Boo hoo. Everyone has to acknowledge that Dark Souls 2 was a real game that actually existed. Like it did some huge disservice to the franchise with it's story or something.
>>332283414
>Oro's shitter build
>>332283414
>Harder to punish
But why? It should be something you do only when you know you're safe. Is this some faggot thing from Bloodborne?
>>332283565
I loved that build in DaS.
It was so fucking stupid.
>>332281586
>Yes, Llewellyn set in Cathedral of the Deep.
Aw, that was actually a good looking set. Now it's the ds2 box art armor that belongs in a pile of shit.
>>332283471
Nah. There are a ton of cooler weapons than the claymore. Even if the claymore is cool in 3.
>>332279857
>>332279650
>>332279590
so can you not dual wield weapons or do you have to get the dual version of them? I'm gonna be pissed if they pulled some dumb shit like that
>>332283080
I can do one better.
https://youtu.be/U7g39UU1WZI?t=25m35s
>>332283006
the giants turn into great trees when they die anon.
>>332283545
Except that Dark Souls 2 is the physical embodiment of shit. Dark Souls 3 is doing a disservice by acknowledging that it ever existed.
>>332283623
Both. You can dual wield individual weapons but some weapons are duos that you can dual wield without having to get another one for your offhand.
>>332283660
That's the worst head canon I have ever heard in regards to Dark Souls.
My jimmies are rustled just reading it.
What's the point of the purple drank covenant?
>>332283649
Firelink Shrine is in DaS3? The fuck?
>>332283623
You can dual wield, there's just no powerstance anymore and most weapons are back to working the way they did in Dark Souls 1 when offhanding.
>>332283686
Yeah except it isn't. Deal with it nerd.
>>332283621
I don't give a fuck about something being cool, I give a fuck about something being strong with a good moveset. Does anybody know how it scales nowadays? It was C in both STR and DEX in DaS. Can't rememeber what it was in DaS2.
>>332283743
how so?
>>332283545
I unironically literally think Dark Souls 2 is the worst game ever created. Of course I'm sure there are games that are worse standing on their own, but when you take into account that it was supposed to follow on from Dark Souls and all they had to do was keep everything exactly the same (ie perfect) but just add new levels and content, it should have been easy but instead they let people touch it who literally can't design gameplay to save their lives. Like really, a child who has never even seen a game before could give you a whole list of problems just from seeing a screenshot of the stats screen. I genuinely wish DaS2 never existed.
>>332283764
they can hit both red and host. there was a webm of a red summoning a purple but people said it was proven in /dsg/ that the red guy was just a bugged host and stuck red
>>332283660
And your source for this is? I'm assuming your own head canon, which is utter nonsense.
>>332283792
It looks nothing like it did in 1, but yes.
The world in general makes it really clear that Dark Souls 3 takes place in Lordran like 1 did, while Dark Souls 2 does not.
>>332283853
>dark souls
>perfect
>when bed of chaos exists
wait, this japanese shit has a plot? isn't it only about clicking LMB?
>>332283743it was meant to rustle jimmies literally made it up on the spot XD
best part of the dark souls story telling is there is so much that is left up to interpretation that it allows individual people make there own stories within the actual canon and havefun
>>332283916
>while Dark Souls 2 does not.
Or did it? Long before the land was called Lordran.
>>332283919
To be fair DaS gets a lot more credit than it deserves. It has plenty of pias poor bosses AND areas. The world on itself is nicely pieced together, but it's also very bland.
>>332283853
>I unironically literally think Dark Souls 2 is the worst game ever created.
Couldn't read any further than that. You're opinion is so wrong, ludicrous, and retarded all at the same time. An impressive feat in itself.
>>332283891
its canon the giants turn into great trees after they die anon.
>>332284035
All of the Dark Souls 1 callbacks in 2 refer to things far in the past and/or in a distant land.
>>332283840
Not him, but for one, Dark Souls 2 takes place long after Dark Souls 1, and the face-hole giants didn't exist then, or at least they didn't exist in Lordran.
Dark Souls 2 giants are golems carved from arch-trees. The game even tells you Vendrick learned how to harness the power of souls to make golems from them, and they look pretty similar, hole and all.
>>332284086
He's not wrong though.
I'm so fucking pissed at dark souls 3.
They didn't explain shit from the past games and more than half the content is rehashed.
They also did all they could to not have to create an original concept for bosses.
Yohrm is a giant from dks2 for litterally no reason if not to rehash the design.
Same thing with Aldrich wich is a pile of shit with Nito and Gwyndolin on top, usually that's not what happens when you eat someone, clearly just a lazy as fuck design.
Dancer of the boreal valley is cool but it's still ciaran.
Bordt is armored sif.
Old dragonslayer armor is ornstein+the pursuer
Nameless king is gwyn with a scarf on top of a dragon.
Oceiros would be nice if he wasn't seath on two legs, again with little to no explanation unless I missed it.
Soul of cinder is pvp in the first phase and gwyn in the second.
Deacons and the wyvern are so fucking shit that they're not even worth talking about.
>>332283959
Yeah, it's half assed, incoherent, and not forced on you though.
>>332284124
Do you feel like you fit in now?
Good. I didn't play DS2 so I guess I won't be missing much.
>>332283853
because the snd half of ds1 was so top quality...
ds2 was okay and ds3 is doing half of what people were shit talking ds2 aswell
Are there any greatswords with the moveset of the Drangleic sword from ds2? I loved its 1 handed R2 combo. Fast thrust followed by a full coverage slash.
>>332284086
He's wrong because he's being hyperbolic, but the sentiment is still correct. Dark Souls 2 was bad.
>>332284091
Is it? Where is this ever stated. Also, the trees in Ash Lake which are apparently holding up the entire world are just as retarded as Iron Keep being on top of a windmill.
>>332284124
Yeah he is. The worst game ever created? Jesus /v/.......
>>332284086
Read the rest of what I wrote, it's not that ridiculous. Of course stuff like Superman and ET and other barely functioning shit is worse when you look at them as individual games, but as a sequel to what's considered by many people to be one of the best pieces of media ever created, yes DaS2 is a heap of shit.
>>332283414
>just running around mindlessly spamming attacks
QUALITY PVP IF I EVER SAW IT
FROM DOES IT AGAIN
>>332284116
i think your confusing the giants that came across the sea to try to get vendrick and whatever he stole from them, their corpses turning into trees in the forest of fallen giants, with the actual golems in drangleic castle and the throne of want.
What significance does the sun have in Dark Souls lore since it's the centerpiece in all endings?
>>332284273
Bad is too harsh. It's still much better than a lot of other games on the market.
>>332284307
As a Sorcery abuser, I welcome the 6 player clusterfucks.
>>332284140
>Yohrm is a giant from dks2
except he's fucking not
you can see his red eyes when you fight against him and lore suggests anything but him being an anus face
>>332284307
Aren't you glad estus is so overpowered and fast that it reduces pvp to mashing r1 and running away?
>>332284336
I'm not confusing anything.
Vendrick learned how to make his own golems from the giants, because that's literally what they are, golems made from infusing arch trees with souls. Just like Vendrick did to stone for his golems, and Aldia did to a dragon corpse for the Ancient Dragon.
>>332284140
>Bordt is armored sif.
not really
>>332283959
miyazaki loved reading western medieval fiction when he was young but had shitty english so he never got to read the story as a whole and had to piece it together. the stories in souls is tribute to that.
>>332284375
Marginally. There's still tons of way better games. Sure there's always something that's worse, but that doesn't put it anywhere near the top.
>>332284431
Well it actually makes it more beneficial to not mash r1 so that you can properly punish and keep up pressure but ok
It punishes extra swings because that gives them time to go heal
>>332284375
Being better than utter shit barely accounts for anything.
>>332284397
Seriously? In the trailer he was pretty much the giant lord with a different weapon, he also made the sound all the giants make in ds2 when they attack
>>332278863
das2 couldn't be canon because it has zero actual references to das1. no story ties, no characters, no places. lines in the item descriptions amount to an easter egg.
>>332284284
>A lump of something, obtainable from a Giant-tree. Makes enemies react to invaders.
When the giants fell, they grew into great trees. Death is not the end, for anything that has ever once lived remains a part of a great cycle of regeneration.
But what of those outside of the cycle?
looted off the corpse of the giants in the forest of fallen giants.
but jesus christ i was just memeing anyway, why are so many people taking it seriously. jesus /v/ get your shit together
>>332284589
Well he's different in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv6K1P6AEP8
Has anyone done any testing on how weapon upgrades affect matchmaking?
Or soul level for that matter, as bloodborne really broke the mould with that
Is there an item that you can toss at people to make it so they can't use healing for a little bit?
>>332284306
please anon, ds2 is a masterpiece follow up compared to the mass effect or dragons age series.
>>332284589
He's an one-man army with a heart of gold who singlehandedly protected his own people and obviously has an ability to speak.
>>332283686
>less useless covenants
>better inventory menu
>PC port isn't complete garbage that require a mod to function properly
>8 roll directions when locked on
>weapon upgrades and infusions are easier to understand
>can be invaded at anytime
>powerstance
Dark Souls 2 sure was a hot steaming pile of shit for multiple reasons but it did improve on some aspects. At least it didn't take a nosedive in quality past the first half of the game.
>>332284612
There's plenty of characters that share homelands
You've missed the entire point of the dark souls series if you haven't realized that the names don't matter because over time everything is forgotten but the cycle continues
>>332284698
Yeah there's a lloyd's talisman in the game, they just renamed it is all.
>>332284432
but where does it say the orignal giants from across the sea were golems the whole time.
>>332284698
Yes, at least one weapon too, does it with every landed hit for a few seconds.
>>332284702
But Mass Effect 1 is shit to begin with.
>>332284756
yeah everything is forgotten just like your dots.
>>332284431
>You win
>The dickwraith backstabs you anyway
Beautiful.
>>332284446
First it was that any enemy on two legs is a humanoid fight therefore it is garbage. Now it's if an enemy is on four legs it's just Sif again and garbage. What's next?
>>332284773
Explicitly? Nowhere, but it really couldn't be more obvious.
Can we stop this pathetic DS2 memeing?
Who the fuck are you trying to impress by shitting on it? You are all fucking morons copying each other trying to fit in.
>>332284756
The names didn't change in Dark Souls 3 though.
They're different in Dark Souls 2 because it takes place in a different kingdom that just has different names for the same things.
>>332284768
Good. My favorite thing in the entire game is watching the failed estus animation when someone didn't realize that I tossed one of those at them.
>>332284885
Where's the amount of truth to ds2 being good or great. It's mediocre and deserves everything it gets
Everything is Bed of Chaos bullshit.
That's the natural evolution as I see it.
>>332284547
See here's the problem anon; if you call everything "shit" then "shit" starts to lose it's meaning.
>>332284882
sounds like a chicken or the egg style of argument, but it seems we agree that the giants and great trees are one and the same when all is said and done.
>>332284885
Maybe the game just wasn't as good as you think it was and a lot of people here didn't have a good time with it. You're such a non conformist rebel bro going against our sheep minds as we are herded by opinions
>>332284885
No, I genuinely don't think Dark Souls 2 is a good game, and I'm glad Dark Souls 3 all but ignores it except for reusing some of its items.
Is the DaS online component still alive? I was told to play it before DaS3.
>>332284970
Epic m8, I bet all the other DS2 shitters think you are a cool kid now.
>>332284993
Sure, but you got the timeline backwards if you think Ash Lake has anything to do with Dark Souls 2's giants.
>>332285039
Yes, I was playing it a few hours ago. There are still plenty of summon signs.
>>332283414
why did they have to go with the stupid glowing shit again instead of just showing of the character model normal like they did in bloodborne,
that shit ruins the pvp for me,
is there a way to turn it off?
>>332285039
yes 5k players on weekends
>>332284834
Really don't feel like actually going to make a list of all the ties to das1 in das2 that are also in das3
>>332284945
Just like in das3
There's still references to the same places in das2 like carim, vinheim, jugo, mirrah, astora, etc along with major figures like velka and havel and shit
>>332285039
All of the Souls games still have pretty active online communities on all platforms, so yes, it's still alive.
>>332285039
somewhat, i started a play through on ps3 recently and had a few interactions. still twinks in undead burgh.
>>332285005
>a lot of people here didn't have a good time with it
>a lot of people here
>people here
Think I found your problem
>>332285094
You can wear a ring that makes you appear human, disabling glow entirely.
>>332285139
>There's still references to the same places in das2 like carim, vinheim, jugo, mirrah, astora, etc along with major figures like velka and havel and shit
No there aren't. Jugo and Mirrah were never mentioned in Dark Souls 1. Carim, Vinheim and Astora are never mentioned in 2.
>>332285094
yeah and now the invaders are fuckin PURPLE, so retarded. more like gay souls amirite...
>>332280724
>Rolling that fast with an ultra greatsword
So they are making the games easier now?
>>332285271
>yeah and now the invaders are fuckin PURPLE
Wrong. Grapes are neutral.
>>332285292
BB wasn't a major tell with the godly side dodging?
>>332285080
assuming the same giants/trees were in lordran it would be safe to assume from there that gwyn would have killed the shit out of them to claim the land. the giants/trees are pretty heavily implied to be out of the cycle just like the dragons, meaning they could have existed that far back.
>>332285192
Uh? What? Do you not get that people who share opinions usually flock to places where they can discuss things with said people? Not sure what you're getting at.
>>332285271
But Purple is the color of Royalty.
>>332284885
If Demon's Souls and Dark Souls didn't exist the conversation would be very different.
As a follow up to those games Dark Souls 2 is the single most disappointing game I have ever played it my life. It changed nearly every single detail for the worse, the only improvements were tiny things like being able to use multiple souls at once. Dark Souls 2 was designed worse, controlled worse, looked worse, sounded worse, was written worse and was just worse in just about every way. It was fucking awful.
In a world where Demon's Souls and Dark Souls didn't exist? It would be a decent action RPG. But unfortunately those games do exist, and Dark Souls 2 is trash because of that.
>>332285225
but everybody else still looks like a neon light so it doesn´t change anything
>>332285358
There were no face-hole giants in Lordran at the time Dark Souls 1 takes place. Where are you getting this shit from?
>>332285292
0~69.9% equip load = fastroll
70%+ = fatroll
Presumably 100% is slow walk
The higher your equip load, the less stamina recovery you have
That guy in the webm was at 69.9% with light armor and RoFaP and Havel's ring, no shield, 22 VIT
>>332285382
It's a good thing you can immediately tell phantoms apart, anyway. When you're in a 6 man free for all, you should be able to tell who is hostile to who at a glance.
>>332285262
Jugo holds ties with benhart who has a replica of MLGS which is in Das1
Cromwell in das2 shares a set from das1 who was from carim. The guy that sells you magic in majula says he's from vinheim
These are just the few that I could remember but I'm sure they're more here and there. All the games are loosely tied together through a lot of these people and places
Dark Souls 2 is a bad game, but people complaining that it was the worst game ever made are exactly why people think the Souls fanbase are a bunch of insufferable faggots. Holy fuck /v/.
Does anyone know if the ring that makes you invisible while rolling works with the dagger's weapon art?
>>332285560
>calling shitty games shit is now bad
>>332285560
Dark Souls 2 is an alright game. People complaining that it was a bad game have never played a truly bad game.
>>332285457
did you miss my post a while back that i made it up just to rustle jimmies?
i thought we switched over to politely discussing a loose theory for shits n giggles.
anyway, assuming what vendrick stole from the giants was the lordvessel, which is under the mansion in majula, then those giants had to be in lordran one way or another. did we ever get to see the faces of the giant blacksmith or gough?
so why r u guys in here instead of outside gettin that pussy?
>>332285365
Discussing games is one thing. Shitting on nearly everything is another. I have never read so much try hard, contrarian shit in my life until I came to /v/. /v/ isn't a hivemind, but it's definitely home to the absolute worst opinions on games in the history of games. The stupid is irreparable.
>>332279334
You mean you would only spend money on them if you aren't too busy to buy video games, which you only do based on the judgements of the denizens of 4chan? I don't think she's quite the love of your life then...
>>332285647
outside sucks.
>>332285691
What exactly is stupid about pointing out a games flaws then talking about why they are flaws with other people? Why does it make you so fucking mad that there are people who hate your favorite game? You want to drown in positivity? Go somewhere else, there are plenty of other websites for that. Just because you don't like to hear it doesn't mean it's stupid.
>>332285262
Astora has maybe five lines of reference and most of them are "this is a sword / shield from Astora".
There's practically nothing you can go on from there other than there are knights and some weapons are blessed.
It has even less to go on than Mird.
>>332285262
>Carim
>never mentioned in 2
But that is wrong, the Carim armor set is also in 2.
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Cromwell+the+Pardoner
>Vinheim
Isn't directly referred to but there is mention of a kingdom a long time ago that was well known for sorcery.
There are also tons of references to other references, armor, weapons and lore liking 1 to 2.
Stop this mindless DS2 shitting,.
>>332285356
I wasn't about to buy PS4 for one game
What did you tags think of the dlc areas in ds2
Personally I think the level design was great but I didn't enjoy most of th bosses
>>332285885
It's not just Dark Souls 2. It's everything.
What do you think of MGSV?
>it's shit
What did you think of The Witcher 3?
>it's shit
What did you think o-
>SHIT
That's pretty much all fucking day. You're confused why I'm here? I'm confused why any of you are here.
>>332285974
No. I will not rest until I have convinced all of your DaS2 kids that I am correct, and DaS2 is the shittiest game known to ever exist in the history of games. It pains me that DaS3, the literal perfection of the series, has to references the shittiest of the shit.
>>332285967
What the fuck.
Is that actually the weapon art? It was Stomp in Network test.
>>332286138
Ok kiddo.
>>332286248
How dare you disrespect me, when my opinions are law.
>>332286238
Yes. The entire NT Greatsword moveset was moved to the Zweihander.
The astora greatsword instead has fast thrusts for r2s and what you see there.
>>332286126
Then why do people like Dark Souls 1 here so much? You act like this board has no games it praises, just because it's predominantly negative. If I really like a game that people on /v/ doesn't like, you know what I do? Don't go to those fucking threads, unless I want to understand why. If I don't like a game I go to those threads to talk about it. It's easy to understand why I'm here. Why are you here? Do you go to candy stores and ask for ham too?
>>332285974
>>332285528
I am aware that items from 1 exist in 2, I'm not saying that Dark Souls 2 isn't canon, I'm saying 2 doesn't fucking take place in the same location as 1, which would explain why they have different names for fucking everything.
>>332286124
Shulva:
Great level design, one awful boss, the graverobbers, one mediocre-shit boss, elana, one fantastic boss, sinh
Brume Tower:
Fantastic vertical level design, one shit boss, blue demon, two fantastic ones, fume knight and alonne
Eleum Loyce:
Great level design with a fair few intertwined paths, one standard boss, the singular tiger, one shitty boss, 2cats, one fantastic boss, who is one of my favourite in the series, Ivory King
>>332286365
I'm just here to shitpost.
>>332285967
I'm talking about Dark Souls 2, not 3.
The point is that people in Lothric still now these places by their former names, while people Drangleic don't.
>playing dark souls for story
It's like reading a book because you like the font.
>>332286579
Nice try Kevin Perira but it was soup for the spoon
>>332280057
There's an enemy late in the game that uses those Spears you dummy. It's just talking about those guys in the dragon shrine.
>>332286468
That's part of the setting of Dark Souls 2.
A curse has brought people from afar to Drangleic and has eroded their memories.
They forget why they came, their families, their motivations. How could they remember Lordran?
People you meet in 3 are generally Unkindled.
Immortal beings both superior and inferior to traditional Undead in that they do not hollow, but are unfit to burn or become Lords.
>>332286387
Oh
Well I may have misread you a bit there then because I agree with that
>>332286365
Why is it predominantly negative then? Are nearly all critically acclaimed games really shit or do you concede to being a hipster and hating something just bc it's popular?
>>332286126
Witcher 3 was the best game ever made.
>>332286739
Because a lot of us have played a lot of games, due to low social life growing up or NEETdom so the posters here are much harder to please especially when a game they actually liked has a sequel that is disappointing.
>>332286387
>explain why they have different names for fucking everything.
It is thousands of years after the events of Dark Souls 1. Everything has different names and meanings just like how everything has different names and meanings in the real world compared to thousands of years ago.
Since DS1 many kingdoms have risen and fallen (mentioned several times throughout the game) building ontop of each other changing the landscape, places and names.
If you paid attention whilst playing DS2 you can easily work out from NPC dialogue and lore descriptions that Drangleic was once Lordron.
>>332286860
>especially when a game they actually liked has a sequel that is disappointing.
That was the worst part.
I tried to hard to love that game because I loved Dark Souls so much, but I just couldn't. It just felt so wrong and got boring and stale before I could even finish it.
Such a massive disappointment.
>>332286860
Maybe the majority is burnt out then. Like a heroine addict that's chasing a high they'll never get. Hope that never happens to me.
>>332286917
Dark Souls 3 takes place long after Dark Souls 2.
Did they somehow rediscover those names?
>>332286998
Now you know how I feel about Dark Souls 1.
>>332278863
No, it's canon, there's just not many references to it as to DS1. It continues the theme of fire and dark as cycles, there's some references to Drangleic and its characters, but the majority of plot is either new or references a lot of the plot from DS1.
>>332286834
Still haven't played it. I played a bit of 2 and the combat seems really funky, but with all the good stuff I've heard about it I'll get around to it someday.
>>332283337
>he can't parry in DaS1
Why do we let the worst players decide how games should be designed? Dark Souls II's parry system leads to the meta of standing still, which is just terrible. It makes parries only useful in low skill fights where players impulsively mash R1 as soon as they can, because the moment you delay it even a bit the player trying and failing to parry eats +1000 damage from incoming thrusting sword spam.
>>332279050
The presence of Nashandra paintings seems to indicate she started out in Anor Londo, then travelled to Drangleic. She was a foreigner in that land, after all.
>>332284971
Yhorn actually managed to put out the Bed of Chaos. They are actually almost an endangered species and are in danger of being extinct once their last generation dies out.
>>332287061
There is only one place in DS3 that is from DS1 that shares the same name. And that is crumbling away and obviously thousands of years old unlike how you see it in DS1 where it looks shiny and new.
>>332287032
It's a lot different than heroin in that being burned out comes from experiencing too much of the same thing rather than a chemical dependency. Is it really a bad thing to want games to be better, and not just fall into a loop of the same old shit?
>>332287150
No it isn't canon, try reading through this thread.
>>332279886
Change over a long course of history, likeNew LondotoLondor.
>>332287156
Combat is much better in 3 but it's not Souls game tier. What makes it great is the roleplay and the story.
>>332287295
Yes, and people refer to old items and locations by their correct names that they had in Dark Souls 1.
