What went right?
Combat is the best it has been since the start of the company
>>332274868
Not those MIT chucklefucks that's for damn sure
Combat, exploration and having fun.
If you just admit to yourself that there is no good story, characters or other RPG elements and just let loose it's a blast.
>>332274868
Power Armour.
Modding weapons was fun and gave a legitimate reason to pick up junk you'd normally ignore in the environment. Companions are much improved over Fallout 3. Some areas in the southern portion of the world were pretty atmospheric with marshy land and the big crater to the southwest. And I do appreciate that they brought back the more shortsighted, impulsive BoS which is more in line with the older games.
Otherwise it was a complete mess of a game. I didn't think they'd mess it up this much but goddamn, I'd much rather go through Fallout 3 again than actually finish the last few story quests I had left in Fallout 4.
It sold well despite being lazy, uninspired dreck
>>332274868
nothing
>>332275057
This,
Although I like Valentine's backstory even though it felt far-fetched.
>>332274868
(You)
>>332274868
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>332275057
I disagree with exploration. I quickly reached a point where I gave up on the story and characters in which I did exactly what you said. But because they used the shitty Skyrim system of placing randomized loot chests at the end of every dungeon-like building it killed my drive to explore. Every time I saw the loot chest I'd just think to myself, "Welp, that must be it for this place." It's like one big stop sign telling the player that they "beat" the dungeon and here's their prize. And like 90% of the time that's the only worthwhile thing in areas to explore since everything else is just junk or terminals/notes containing poorly written stuff.
I genuinely tried to just enjoy walking around and exploring, but you find out really fast that there's little point to it. Areas are super small, contain very few secrets/worthwhile items, and then at the end you're given a randomized loot chest filled with drugs, pipe weaponry, and a gold watch. Exploring in Fallout 4 is incredibly boring compared to Fallout 3.
The score, i love that noise thats like an air raid shelter siren that plays a note then pitch bends up a few...
>>332274868
Wheres the guy that posts polished turd image with no comment
>>332275153
It's fun despite being lazy, uninspired dreck. I literally hate myself for liking it, but I gotta spend hours building perfect, sustainable communities.
>>332275383
Like werrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr waiiiirrrrrrrrr warrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr best bit for me
>>332275294
>>332275526
It's a shooter with rpg elements
>>332275057
>it's an "exploration" post episode
The bethesdaphile's favorite buzzword. Going from one map marker to another while picking up procedurally generated loot is apparently called exploration. And it would be completely fine if there was something else in this game like cool characters or engaging storyline/sidequests. The game, on the other hand, literally lacks everything: there's no coherent art style, no interesting loot or weaponry, the rpg elements are a joke, the story is absolute garbage, the shooter part doesn't fit the core gameplay and the removal of weapon degradation was a poor decision.
Fun fact is, even journalists and normies started to suspect that something is wrong with bethesda's games and I hope it forces them to actually put some effort into their new shit
>>332275057
>If you just admit to yourself that is a shitty RPG...
I refund it. That's it.
I'd say a lot of things went right.
The only real problem is that they called it Fallout. It's not a RPG and not Fallout.
>>332276294
>/v/ bandwagoning couldn't even get the user score to red
Wow, must be a pretty great game.
>>332277162
I was going to, but I was busy playing New Vegas for the 4th time.
Assaultron waifus
New Obsidian game when?
>>332276294
All the things you just said can be applied to any Fallout game.
Even the originals weren't all that well received, sorry, I remember when F1 came out many people disliked how the graphics seemed to limit the game and take away from the gameplay and content, Wasteland felt much more fleshed out.
The cycle continues, new oblivious people are born every day and old games will be forgotten, deal with it.
>>332277854
>Even the originals weren't all that well received
Wat. Fallout 1 was so successful, it's the reason why Fallout 2 got funded and made the very next year.
>>332274868
The companions (50% right though)
![4VLLIzo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vp9QqNy.jpg "4VLLIzo[1].jpg")
>>332277854
>it's a "just as bad" episode
no it wasn't you idiot. Fallout had actual roleplaying and in Bethesda's Fallouts you just follow the arrow and do what the game tells you to do.
Why do Fallout 4 fanboys get so offended if you call it a first-person shooter?
>>332274868
Power-armor being a piloted exoskeleton rather than an outfit was pretty cool.
>>332277854
>All the things you just said can be applied to any Fallout game.
They can't, Fallout 4 is far more dumbed-down and limited that any other Fallout game.
The dialog, the quests, and character buildings, it was all gutted and streamlined into barely qualifying as an RPG anymore. It's literally just an open-world FPS now. At least 3 and NV were still RPG's.
>>332278301
because they want their generic disposable games to be special
>>332278061
Wat. Fallout 3 was so successful, it's the reason why Fallout 4 got funded and made the very next few years.
It met my every expectation.
I've never played a game and hated it exactly as much as I thought I would before.
>>332277162
Don't worry.
NMA will be around forever to continue bitching about Fallout 4 long after the normie hype goes away. Then the score will go red.
>>332278665
Okay. I never said anything on the contrary, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
>>332275057
this
>>332274868
The hype machine.
It's pretty good if you imagine you're not playing Fallout 4 and you're actually playing Bioshock Infinite 2.
>>332276294
>Going from one map marker to another while picking up procedurally generated loot
So every single rpg in the last 16 years?
>>332275336
You are doing it wrong mate. Chests are only worth for ammo and caps. Weapons and armor are worthless because junk gives more crafting resources per weight unit, and they alliw you to loot/explore more before returning. FO4 is a masterpiece if yopu roleplay it as a junkyard tech savy hill billy.
OK so father (aka shawn) is your son.
fathers DNA/ DNA data was used to create Gen 3 synths.
-Danse is a synth, you can fuck him, he is your fucking Grandson!
-Magnolia is a synth, you can fuck her, She is your fucking granddaughter.
-Curie can get a synth body, then you can fuck the synth body, the synth body this is your granddaughter.
Why the fuck is Bethesda promoting incest in fallout? Did the writers say "fuck it" its cool to fuck your own grand-kids. ok so you can also kill your grand kids, great now im a kin slayer, fuck this game.
>>332279051
I think the gen 3 synths have only a small portion of your dna, so it kind of doesn't matter. Plus that's kind of the same as saying it's incest if you and some guy have the same ancestor
>>332279027
>masterpiece if yopu roleplay it
To bad Bethesda ruined that too.
>>332279212
not small, more like large portion, Shawn admits that himself.
>>332279051
Yeah totally, it's the equivalent of Eve fucking Lilith's granddaughter who's family line intertwined with Eve's family line.
>>332279224
I'm not defending the game, i'm just saying what the gameplay is optimal for.
What was even the point of your character being born from the pre-war era?
Was it just an excuse for like 5 minutes of pre-war gameplay?
>>332275708
There's barely any rpg left in it
>>332279829
Muh cinematic Hollywood story
Muh family
>>332277382
How come a game that only had less than 2 years to be worked on was better than one that had 4-6 years?
>>332275526
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>332279829
excuse for Vault start and so Piper can idolize you
>>332280085
HATE PIPER
>>332280464
piper was good what are you talking about
why does nobody ever mention the atmosphere? especially in combination with the 40-60 music it has some nice moments
>>332281158
it felt unneeded for a game so blank so really what is there to talk about
>>332281029
HATE NEWSPAPER
>>332274868
Casualized to the perfect amount.
>>332279829
>What was even the point of your character being born from the pre-war era
Wish they would have done more but it was still neat.
Companions were interesting.
Combat was better than before.
Uhhh.
Weather effects were neat?
Exploration was actually kinda cool since there was stuff to find and locations were interesting and unique.
Raider ambient dialogue was awesome.
Aaaand I think that is it.
its shit
>>332285307
Gun modification
Settlement building (needed way more stuff)
Power armor
Rare enemy types
I saw my old flatmate playing it on xbone. It was shockingly buggy and ugly both. It looked like the awful physics and whatnot from all other Bethesda games were present. Can I get a single good RPG on the PS4? No Witcher, as I hated the second game.
How many playthroughs did it take you to find The Thorn?and why does the area run like shit on my computer?
>>332286064
RAM?
Come on, Energy Weapons build
Anybody have experience with those mods that add in salvageable robots/rebuilding them to be your companions? I'm tired of the standard companions and wanted to try something new, but I also don't like the idea of a super special snowflake girl companion mod
>>332274868
>Feels like the developers actually realized color palettes exist
>MC talks (which is good cause I like hearing my custom made waifu speak snarky speak)
>Combat system is utlizes the FPS element far better than 3, giving a more intense experience
>band of quirky side kicks
>>332274868
Marketing.
>>332280042
Tobacco sells well and it's literal cancer.
Same applies to fo4.
>>332283758
'All the way' is the perfect amount?
