When does Trails in the Sky become good? I've heard it's about a 40 hour game, I'm 7 hours in and literally nothing is happening. You've got your fledgling edgelord Joshua and memeworthy Estelle as main characters, mountains of dialogue for NPCs but nobody has anything interesting to say, boring "adventure guild" Bracer lore and the game has absolutely failed to sell me on the motivation for investigating the airship crash.
Does Super Mario is Missing RPG ever become good? The combat system is doing nothing for me, and the Bracer quests seem like such busywork. Does anyone like reading pages and pages of filler dialogue? If the characters weren't so one-note, maybe I would be enjoying it, but just about everyone is a walking stereotype. How is this game so highly rated and recommended on a board that lambastes FF13 because of the "just play 40 hours and it will get good, trust me" situation.
>>332251406
WOW WHAT A MYSTERY DAD GOT ON AN AIRSHIP AND NEVER LANDED, MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK AL QAEDA.
Pic related, a game with a plot good enough to excuse being a pretty bad game otherwise.
>>332251406
I thought the same thing about the sequel and dropped it in spectacular fashion. Didn't play the original. I think weeaboos just like having their time wasted as they have depression and self hate and can't think creatively other then one dimensional meme characters imo.
>>332252029
I've seen a few attempts to develop characters over the past hours, and I enjoyed some of the scenes with Estelle and her father -- but nonetheless, I can't maintain interest when the rest of the gameplay is so weak. You're constantly wandering the countryside searching for quest monsters when you aren't rushing through areas trying to hit the next plot point, but you have to surmount a massive output of uninteresting dialogue to do it.
I still can't get over the awful camera angle, pointed down at a harsh 60-something degrees towards the ground. I have to check my map to have even the faintest idea of where I am in an area because the zones are totally generic outside of towns. Nothing about the character design is exciting. I can't believe people are giving this 9/10, even for a 2003 game. Even shitty PSX games did not fall into these holes.
>>332251406
FC is a slow burn, honestly. The characters aren't as one note as you think and they certainly do grow. If you really don't care much about them I suppose you can skip the sidequests but some do have some fun things.
>>332252029
>played SC having not played FC
That's like watching the second season of a show without watching the first one. You can't just jump in halfway through a story.
>>332252926
By slow burn do you mean "the devs expect me to sit through 20 hours of shit for ten cutscenes that matter and a vaguely exciting resolution for the characters"? I've never had such an urge to stop playing a game. There's no sense of "trajectory", and this is coming from someone who finished Breath of Fire 3. THAT game is some laid-back stuff.
Trails is a meme series.
>>332251406
Play Xenoblade Chronicles instead. That game takes 100 hours but at least half of it is plot. Sidequests are actually worth doing because the combat is good and the characters are interesting.
>>332252926
>tfw just reached chapter 3 in FC
>story got so good i forgot to do sidequests
>a bunch of them expired
Uh oh.
Gotta love the troll threads.
>>332254759
Xenoblade Chronicles has a shit battle system
>>332253427
Okay
FC isn't that amazing. It took me about ten hours to actually find the characters and story interesting. If that's too much of a time investment for you, which is understandable, then drop it. It's a shame though because SC is fucking brilliant but pointless unless you've played FC.
>>332253427
Anon, the first half of FC is Estelle and Joshua's journey to become bracers. There is no OH MY GOD THESE ANIME CHILDREN MUST SAVE THE WORLD FROM xXxSEPHIROT_BAHAMUTxXx666xXx, it's just them travelling around and helping people while the story for the second half gets set up. There are plenty of great characters and character/world-building dialogue, too.
But if you don't like it, don't play it.
>>332251406
The characterization is actually fairly good, at least for the few characters that the plot focuses on much.
Nothing else about the game is noteworthy, though. I stuck with it to the end and it wasn't really worth it.
>>332255008
>I never played Xenoblade Chronicles
>I never beat bosses 10 levels higher than me by using block, dodge, and knockdown mechanics
>>332255284
See that's the thing, people talk about these great characters, and then I meet them and watch interactions and just don't see the appeal at all. I've had the experience with certain overrated fantasy novels just the same.
There's a reason that most jRPG plots jump to "save the world" -- it's a credible long-term goal. If there was even the faintest hint of something bigger than "I wanna be the very best" Pokemon style Bracer questing and 'Find my Dad', I'd be more interested. The truth is there are 1000 ways to do 'save the world' that involve putting young people in precarious moral situations that are actually interesting to read. I just can't picture Estelle maturely debating whether or not to spare an enemy's life (for example) -- we're at Saturday morning cartoon maturity.
The Bracer Guild is the literal goody-two-shoes club
>>332257583Oh, and for the record, Chrono Trigger started out with the lowest of low-keys:"let's go to the fair" and then it transitioned into a basic "save the girl" plot. But it's a fucking masterpiece; heavy handed plot revelations do not mean an uninteresting story or world. Zeal and the bleak future are awesome lore points from CT, and they're revealed more through gameplay and art design than through people talking and telling you about how things are.
>>332254965
I bet you didn't even play FC and you're just repeating /v/'s consensus for no reason
>>332257583
Are you 13?
>>332258846
Spoken like a true 15 year old. I have no idea how a game like this can keep your autistic interest.
No, it's not that good. It's a JRPG. Weebs will claim it's absolutely amazing because they lose the ability to look at things objectively when anime is involved.
Enough with indulging trolls, post Renne
After the prologue, you get more mechanics to work with and as you progress your characters, you get new crafts to work with (like Estelle's AoE typhoon swipe or Joshua's nothin' personal kid straight line strike).
Also, learning what orbal arts and stuff to bring to battle is pretty important and side quests begin to feel like main story quests and give exposition to your party members and different locales.
I'm 11 hours in and having a much more different opinion.
>>332259435
>>332254759
100 hours of forced side-questing because of the mmo level bs thing.
>got bored in the first 10 hours of the game
>"Well, fuck it. I'll finish this game."
>reaches Chapter 3
>tfw game eventually keeps going good
>>332257583
tl;dr: It's not flashy enough for me
>>332260061
About time someone makes an Andesutte!? Collage.
>>332259435
>>332260136compilation video when
>>332257583
One of the first fucking bracer missions has Estelle choosing whether or not to spare some MONSTERS who were pestering a farm
The game is slow paced as fuck, sometimes to its own detriment, but the characters and plot are all solid
It's just that shit is long and kind of padded and most of the first 40 hour game is just set-up for the second, 70 hour long game
Seriously if you don't have the patience to sit through this stop now
>>332260254
Tita is so much cuter without her stupid hat
>>332260367
Did you read his post? He's literally complaining it's not a teenagers save the world plot, he's just a nostalgiafag.
>>332260476
Renne makes it look good. Then again, that might just be because she's perfect.
>>332260476
>>332260254
Is there someplace that has all the card arts?
>Estelle maturely debating whether or not to spare an enemy's life (for example) -- we're at Saturday morning cartoon maturity.
That's because Estelle is just the perspective character.
Joshua is the kind of character who has to struggle with that sort of issue. He's the real "central" character of the Sky games.
>>332260061
>>332260136
what does あんですって even mean? jisho gives "that person" or something like that. I don't understand context on the image.
>>332260945
http://www.gamekyo.com/gallery60792.html
This has a lot of them, I think.
>>332259854
This.
Otherwise the game would be extremely short. All sidequests are basically your typical monster slaying, and fetch quest that don't add anything to the world or story aside from growing character affinity to see a heart to heart conversation. So instead of making sidequests that actually involve the characters growing together, we just get arbitrary bullshit. Yet TiTS is bad because character development doesn't happen fast enough despite sidequests actually adding to the story. I can understand that this game may not be someone's preference, but don't be spouting bullshit now.
it's threads like this that make me deeply regret this series going mainstream like it did
rip kiseki, you died a horrible, horrible death
>>332261823
Let me guess it should've stayed Japan only.
>>332251406
The combat is garbage. Just use cheat engine to run it at double speed and blaze through it.
What makes the games appealing is that they have a massive amount of worldbuilding in the NPC dialogue and sidequests and the game escalates from the boring investigations you're doing at the start to the world-threatening scenario at the end at a gradually rising pace, full of technological developments that are genuinely surprising yet reasonable because of the game's time spent building up to it all.
It's a game that's very grounded and focused on making an interesting world but if you're not the sort to enjoy finding out all you can about a game (through things such as talking to NPCs) then you're not going to enjoy what it has to offer.
>>332261596
W-what was that!? Sorta
Its Estelle's catch phrase in Japanese
>>332261823
yeah because japan has zero add autists
fuck off dude the west has received kiseki extremely well
>>332261620
Kinda cluttered but Ill try digging for more cards
>>332261596
It's Estelle's way of saying "What the hell did you just say?!" whenever someone insults her, someone calls her a brainless bimbo or someone who explains her reasons why people should never buy her game.
>>332260291
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12994514#_=_
>>332262485
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%81%82%E3%82%93%E3%81%A7%E3%81%99%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6
>mfw there's even a dictionary for Estelle's andesutte
>>332262082
no, you fuck off
there's 0 reason to have killed the series the way it did
this is metroid level of necrophilia
I've had some people asking me about the Evo versions on some other threads.
Can you niggers stop spreading misinformation because hurr I'm a pleb who will never play the Evo games?
There's 0 reason to play the vanilla games with the Evo games out, Crossbell duology included
>but muh soundtrack
You can always get the original soundtrack for 1k yen if it bothers you that much or just get the soundtrack and listen when you're not playing the game or something.
Nothing, and I mean no flaw mentioned wins against Tio's scene voiced in Zero, and no flaw found will beat Estelle's Let's go or Olivie's singing his songs or the Arios fight in Ao over no fucking voice at all.
It added so much power to those scenes it's fucking senseless to ever think playing without them (vanilla)
You niggers spreading misinformation are purely graping and it's sad a dude actually had to tell me he almost went with the psp versions of the crossbell duology out of how bad EOPs are giving the Evo games its reputation
And I know you niggers would give an arm to have them localized over vanilla if it was an option.
>>332263098
It's a fact that the evo soundtracks are shit. You wouldn't even be going on an autistic rage if the Evo versions were in English
>>332252785
worldbuilding isnt for everyone friend, some of us ust want to point and shoot, and thats ok. but this is an rpg and you bought it knowing that. so go talk to those fucking npcs in town and read all of their different dialogue lines because you wont see that in most shit today ever. the damn npcs even have names. Come on man, slow yourself down and explore the world and shit. everyone is someone, the addage talk to everyone actually gets you some nice info sometime or jobs you didn't see on a bulletin. enjoy the ride because its like the last cowboy of rpgs with that size and detail.
>>332263098
>And I know you niggers would give an arm to have them localized over vanilla if it was an option.
But it's not an option so therefore the EVO versions don't matter unless you understand Japanese.
Also I don't doubt the games are ultimately better but it's a fact that the new soundtracks are shit.
>>332263098
The new art sucks.
>>332258846
Stop anon, i'm sure he's got the jRPG blockbuster plot kicking around in his skull as we speak. He's going to defy all the tropes and suprise us all.
trails isn't a series you play for the gameplay. the gameplay is mediocre, as you are aware. you play it for the world, its characters, its arcs, its plot. if none of those things are engaging to you you should drop the game because it's not for you.
no, the gameplay does not get better. the story though, i think gets progressively great and never stops being great after a certain point of FC through the entirety of SC.
Who are the best Cold Steel student NPCs and why are they Linde and Vivi?
>>332263836
SC's first few chapters were a bit dull but from the end of 3 onwards is fucking amazing.
I liked the PSP games, but absolutely hated trails in the sky. It felt so much worse. I don't know how, it was mechanically much more sound and advanced, but jesus christ I just couldn't not tolerate it one iota.
a jrpg has jrpg combat, can you beliee this shit? i'm going to go tell 4chan it sucks like the last time i bought a jrpg. Can't wait for persona 5 heh, i got one hell of an insult waiting for the people who buy that shit, check it out. "Weeb"
btfo heh they won't even know what hit them.
>>332260747
>Then again, that might just be because she's perfect.
I think it's this
>That feel
>>332263098
New soundtrack is tolerable for me, but it took me time to get eventually used to the new artwork.
Holding X to speed up battles is one of Sora Evo's best feature.
>>332265035
>Holding X to speed up battles is one of Sora Evo's best feature.
You can just use cheatengine for that on PC though. I would never have gotten through the games without it.
>>332265034
>using arts
Just S-craft with domination to kill them instantly
>>332265364
Magic is fantastic in Cold Steel.
>>332265864
Yeah
But you can use an S-craft to end the fight instantly instead
>>332265034
>You just manage to include everyone in the range of the spell
I'm on chapter 5 of the second game and I feel like it's only just now getting interesting. I think the games really suffer from a weak cast. olivier is funny, but estelle is bland and I don't really give a fuck about agate or zane at all.
>>332266995
N-NO ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE SO AMAZING AND DEEP
>>332266995
>Estelle is bland
>>332263440
They could be in fucking Russian and what I said wouldnt change, nor would it make it any lesa true.
>>332266995
>I think the games really suffer from a weak cast
But characters in Sora and Zero/Ao have noteworthy character development though unlike Sen.
On Sen, you have there a Gary Stu with edgy scars on his chest, a generic tsundere slut, a boring ex-mercenary loli, a genki retarded loli, a MUH WIND mongolian negro, a fujoshit magician, an inbred horse fucker bastard, a potential school shooter who wants to shoot the rich instead of eating them, a literal fuccboi healer, a boring Saber clone, a manlette posing as a student council president, and an instructor who is an expired Christmas cake and lusts for dicks of old men.
>>332266995
>Estelle is bland
This is completely untrue
>>332263098
Crossbell Duology w/e fine
PC versions of FC/SC courtesy of XSEED are way better than the evo ports of the Sora games tho
>>332268614
>genki dense tomboy with no common sense
She's a dime a dozen.
>>332268681
Then name a dozen other characters like her.PROTIP: "characters like her" does not mean her basic surface traits (IE what you posted)
>>332267728
>>332268614
she has no sex appeal and no noteworthy character traits other than wanting to fuck her brother
>>332268919
Yes, I too can play a game for one hour and then make sweeping judgements based solely on that hour
>>332269030
I'm 15 hours into the second game though
>>332269071
And youve only scratched the surface.
>>332269071
Then I guess you just have brain problems.
>>332268791
>name a dozen selfless heroes that gain a harem but are bad around women :^)
You realize how stupid this sounds? These games are full of cliches.
>>332269396
How is Estelle in any way bad around women? She has no harem either.
>>332269396
Stop embarrassing yourself, you obviously haven't played the game to see her fleshed out and yet you're already judging her character. She isn't bad around other women nor does she have a harem
>>332266995
Estelle is a victim of the localisation, especially in SC where they made her snarky and sarcastic with every other line. She became grating as fuck.
>>332264989
Of course it is.
>>332269557
Finished FC just last month. Estelle and everyone else stayed generic the whole time.
>>332269801
>It
So you agree she's not a person.
>>332269923
Did you read the post I replied to?
the only real problem is that it drags out to long before things happen and that it has to much anime cliche stuff in it
the plot is still 100x times better of what you see in anime nowadays and I was satisfied but if you don't like the characters, the world, bracer guild or anything at all there is no point in going further
>>332269801
Why is Renne under my desk?
>>332270109
Sucking you off like the pocket onnahole she is
>>332269898
All of your favorite characters are generic too.
>>332270213
So? I still like them. I like Estelle too, but it doesn't change the fact that she's generic.
>>332270294
Every character ever made is generic
Even this thread is generic
See that mountain? It's generic
Generic is meaningless, she's still an excellent and compelling character.
>>332270410
If it's so meaningless, why are you retards so quick to deny it and defend the game?
>>332270516
Uh huh
>>332270516
Because when people say "this character is generic" they mean "I don't like them so that means they're bad, but I don't actually have an argument as to why"
>>332270516
>everything I said is meaningless so that means you're wrong
>>332270669
That's just what you assume it means. When I say "this game is full of cliches" I mean" this game is full of cliches." That's it. You can't gleam anything about the overall quality or what I think of it. The only thing you could additionally draw from it is a vague idea of whether or not you'll like it.
Everyone needs to stop getting their panties in a twist and realize that all the typical JRPG cliches are part of the series' charm.
>>332270785
So you admit you're just bullshitting and posting meaningless tripe to stir shit up? That's nice, fuck off.
>>332270785
You're free to name a dozen characters like Estelle if you want to, since you claim that's incredibly easy to do. Go right ahead, otherwise you're just a fucking moron who doesn't know what he's talking about spouting bullshit because you have no real argument.
>>332268919
>she has no sex appeal
fucking waifufags. knew a classmate that started with Cold Steel and wanted to get into FC. he drops it because there are no bonding events with the girls like in CS.
Those people who try out FC expecting it to be some eroge should fuck off.
>>332270863
Well no. Part of the reason why I like these games are because of all the cliches and how well they use them.
>>332270946
Are you honestly trying to deny that the words "genki dense tomboy" don't describe Estelle to a T? I can't even begin to count the number of times she's described like that in the game itself.
Are you also going to demand a dozen times where a JRPG protagonist gives a speech about friendship?
>>332271219
>Are you honestly trying to deny that the words "genki dense tomboy" don't describe Estelle to a T?
Those are her surface traits sure. Estelle is more than just her surface traits like any good character. She also grows out of being dense throughout the second game.
>>332271219
>Are you also going to demand a dozen times where a JRPG protagonist gives a speech about friendship?
You're really dodging answering, aren't you?
>>332271034
but the game repeatedly points out that estelle is completely unsexy
>>332272396
>filename
>image isn't a picture of Eminem doing something violent
Fucking dropped.
>>332272396
>its a he fell for the anime game recommendation from v despite it being complete shovelware episode
>>332263880
Becky. Uch aye the noo.
>>332272396
>>332272534
>imagesearch still uses the thumbnail
ha
>>332251406
Trails is pretty much a game where you just kind of turn your brain off and just cozy up to the game's world. I wasn't really enjoying it, but around the time I got near the end of the first chapter it just started clicking with me. It doesn't really do anything specifically great, but as a whole it's pretty enjoyable.
Though /v/ loves to look at anything really critically so they feel superior to others who like something. If it's not your cup of tea, then it's not your cup of tea.
>>332272534
>>332273382
Back off Agate, she's mine.
>>332263098
Wait wait what? The original soundtracks are DLC?
I had someone tell me that the original soundtracks are on the cart for Sora no Kiseki Evo. Am I being rused?
Is the original soundtrack available as DLC for the Crossbell duology? I'm getting ZnK Evo soon anyway, but I'm curious. Fuck the new art for the Sora trilogy but I'm honestly curious about the new shit in the duology.
>>332273836
Patches added the original soundtracks into FC and SC evo, apparently. They're definitely DLC if that's bullshit, though. Unfortunately there's no option for the original soundtrack for Zero or Ao.
>>332273887
which sucks cuz some tracks sound much better in original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjsEh0KM9oc
is comfy while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGHFDfP5PUU
sounds too ominous
>>332273887
Well I couldn't care less about the Sora evos. I prefer to play on PC when possible and I hate the new artwork.
Since ZnK/AnK Evo more or less have the same portraits I don't care all that much. As for the music, I've liked some of what I've heard from SC Evo's tracks while being disliking others... I'd imagine I'd be able to deal with no original soundtracks unless the arrangements got better over time and that's why SC' evo's ost isn't horrible.
I'd look up the tracks and compare but I don't like to spoil music for myself. It ruins the mood of a scene if I know what music is coming.
>>332274182
>Omen of Disaster Evo Mix
>sounds more ominous than vanilla
wooooooooooooooooooooow
>>332274183
Some of the best music in SC was absolutely butchered in the Evo mixes. Thankfully you can switch in SC Evo.
The new portraits really aren't that bad compared to the old ones, they just lack expressions. The addition of CGs makes up for that somewhat.
>>332268624
No.
Spare the world of your opinions my man
>>332274381
I thought that they actually managed to do a good job with some tracks in SC evo though. Particularly the ones I expected them to butcher the most (like the music from the scene in the dream, and the energetic music from the escape scene at the end).
I do like the portraits, but I'm just too used to the original art style to have it sit well with me. I definitely see what you mean about the new artstyle having problems with different expressions though - it's probably the sameface.
>>332274381
>they just lack expressions.
That's the entire problem.
>>332274502
He meant "number of expressions", not how expressive they are.
>>332274540
And that's the problem, yes.
you realize people saying "portraits are a problem" didn't play the evo games.
why do people even bother arguing is beyond me, it's just pure sour grapes and lack of options.
>>332274540
They're definitely less expressive as well. I'd say the artist is more talented, but he's still not very good. Pretty much any other artist would have been better. Thankfully it looks like they might be getting a new artist for 3rd Evo, but that might just be for promo art.
Old art was shit
New art wasn't a problem in Crossbell games, suddenly it is now
A lot of hypocrisy going on here
>>332274647
Because TitS Evo replaced the old art with the new art and the old art had far more expressions getting used in the character portraits. The new art might be technically better but the lack of expressions hurts the game's presentation.
>>332274647
>old art was shit
That's, like, your opinion man. I thought that the old art had a shitload of charm.
>>332274647
>New art wasn't a problem in Crossbell games, suddenly it is now
Because the new art is still shit and loses out in diversity on top of that. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp you fucking retard. And don't pretend it's sour grapes when people have been shitting on the evo remakes since Zero when nobody even thought SC would be localized.
>>332274726
voice acting added power to scenes in sora more than any portrait would
>>332274782
Why would you lie on the internet, anon?
Anyway, I'm assuming that Nippon-Yasan is the best place to get ZnK Evo from? Everywhere else is more expensive from what I can see. I guess I could scour eBay for a cheaper used copy, but eh.
>the AnK Evo LE is in stock for about $58 on Nippon-Yasan
I've gotta admit that tempts me.
>>332274841
get evo from NY, yes
don't listen to the lies of the plebs
>Joshua's portrait art in Crossbell
vomit.jpg
Renne a shit
>>332274829
He's not lying. I remember people shitting on the Evo entries in Falcom threads as far back as I can remember.
>>332274792
I'm not sure why you think the improvement of added voice acting is in any way relevant to the artwork losing out. An improvement in a different area doesn't change that the expressions got neutered.
>>332274927
>I remember people shitting
You don't, dude.
>>332274829
Why would you? Do you want me to link you forum posts from after Zero Evo's release with people shitting on the new music?
When people fuck up a major part of the game the correct response is to complain about that major fuck-up, not to pretend it's okay because they didn't fuck up some of the other basic features, especially when you're buying the game a second time.
>>332274984
>new music
weren't we talking about the art
stop lying man
http://exhentai.org/g/782297/69b91085cf/
Joshua best girl
>>332274829
You're the only one lying here, trying to claim that everything about the Evo versions is better when you're only doing so because EOPs can't play them
>>332274891
Nigger I think both sides are in a pissing match. There are legitimate things that Evo does worse from what I can see, but there are also a lot of good things that Evo adds.
There's a reason I'm only getting Crossbell in Evo. I want the higher resolution and it's not like the portraits are that different from the PSP games compared to the difference between SnK to SnK Evo.
>>332275025
I said "people have been shitting on the Evo remakes since Zero" not "people have been shitting on the Evo remakes' art since Zero".
>>332275025
I don't think people care about the art in the Crossbell Evos... they're more or less the same style.
People are mad about the art in the Sora Evo games because they grew attached to the original style and expressiveness was lost.
Everyone has their own opinions on the music.
>>332274982
Stop telling me what I do or don't remember. I'm even the anon that's going to be buying ZnK Evo and eventually AnK Evo, fuckface.
>>332275038
No, you fucking retard.
People who actually know moon asked about the evo remakes and almost got talked out of getting them over non voiced versions.
You miss out so much on the powerful scenes without the voice and it's obvious faggots put it down cause they can play it.
>>332275091
so you were lying then
>>332275132
Nobody is saying the addition of voice acting is a bad thing, you fucking idiot.
>>332275197
No, but you faggots make it sound like the addition of voices doesn't make up for whatever flaw you find in it
And it does.
>>332275187
>actually defending Zero Evo OST
>>332275132
And you're the one acting like there's literally nothing wrong with the Evo versions when they shit the bed in crucial ways like music which is equally important to voice acting in many ways. The atmosphere of certain areas is butchered in Zero Evo and that's a fact. To some people music is more important than voice acting; telling someone objective facts about both versions (Evo version has voice acting which improves certain scenes on top of various other bonus features and improved graphics, the original has a much better soundtrack) is shortchanging them regardless of what you personally think is better. If someone who doesn't give a fuck about voices but thinks music is one of the most important aspects of a game plays the Evo version of Zero they'll be disappointed.
>>332275419
>muh soundtrack defined a whole game for me
god damn fuck xseed for bringing shitters like you to these threads
hopefully no moonfag will fall to the memes you faggots spout
>>332275280
This is an 18+ board.
>>332275508
>>muh soundtrack defined a whole game for me
Someone never played Chrono Cross.
>>332275508
Whatever faggot. You're literally the exact inverse of the people you're complaining about and are just as bad as them. I prefer the Evo versions myself, I'm just explaining why you're a fucking moron and probably autistic since you're literally unable to understand that other people can have different opinions.
>>332275419
>The atmosphere of certain areas is butchered in Zero Evo and that's a fact
That's a big bait
>>332260254
When do they fuck?
>>332275570
chrono games are shit tbqh
>>332275616
>Tita
>lusting after anyone who doesn't have red hair
>>332275591
Imagine how mad the dude would have been when he almost got rused into playing fucking psp versions of Crossbell because of meme spouting faggots.
I'd be fucking mad myself.
>>332275757
>the games were shit without voice acting
>>332275684
Purple has red in it.
>>332275845
Tita would probably prefer to go after Renne's brother.
>>332275841
several crucial scenes in Zero were voiced in Evo which were just amazing when you played through them
so yeah, it was shit in comparison
>>332275892
Renne would go after him too.
>>332275965
Well, thanks for admitting you're only putting it on a pedestal out of elitism.
>>332275892
I rather Renne go after Estelle and Joshua's son and later get dp'd by him and Colin
>>332276034
>version you can't play is better than other version you can't play
>somehow this translates to elitism
listen pal, whatever delusion/complex you have may or may not be true
that's just not the case here right now
>>332276164
Eh, whatever. You're clearly just here to be elitist, or you wouldn't be raging like an autist while ignoring what other people are saying and claiming that presenting objective facts is somehow something to throw a tantrum over.
>>332276346
Agreed, no matter how big the tantrum is, you faggots will probably still lie around and tell people to get vanilla versions despite them knowing moon
You can go fuck yourselves.
>>332276456
i'll be legit familia if people just go around trusting memesters on 4chan then they deserve to get rused.
>>332261596
The actual phrase is nandesutte (なんですって?) which is basically a catch-all, versatile phrase that means "What was that?!".
She just removed the first N sound.
>>332276456
Feel free to quote a single post in this thread of anyone telling someone to buy the vanilla versions over the Evo versions.
Nevermind the fact that not everybody is a mental child like you who needs other people to make decisions for him. If someone is stupid enough to say "hm, I love voice acting in my games, but some random guy on 4chan said not to buy the version I would like" then he's probably too stupid to play anything more complex than rock-paper-scissors without dying of a brain aneurysm.
>>332276710
>is a mental child like you who needs other people to make decisions for him
that's a lot of salt in a single post
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>>332276924
Says the guy frothing at the mouth because other people have different opinions.
>>332257583
>There's a reason that most jRPG plots jump to "save the world" -- it's a credible long-term goal
See, Falcom's approach towards that "save the world" plot for this series as a whole is completely different. There are several games in the Trails series set in different countries in the continent. The penultimate game will likely be the one that has the immediate "save the world" plot hook that you're looking for. The rest are setting the stage for that: character motivations, important backstory and events etc. while of course, dealing with their own local circumstances.
At least this is as far as I understand Falcom's goals. It helps foster that sense of "heroes aren't born overnight", the opposite of which is heavily present in their long-running series, Ys. It also seems like they're trying to weave some international plot on top of all the individual events in each country.
It makes some sense to me though, that more than one set of heroes will be involved with some end-of-world scenario and not the usual squad-sized set of characters we're used to.
>>332276939
>plebs have wrong opinions.
Fixed.
>>332277316
>I'm autistic
Fixed
Really?
I'm playing it right now for the first time and I'm enjoying the fuck out of it.
I'm on the final chapter, just before I'm gonna enter the Grand Arena with my boys.
Only thing i don't like about Trails is that Estelle suddenly wants that Joshua dick.
Also Oliver really grew on me, when he arrived in Chapter 1 he was kinda meh, now i fucking love the guy
100% agree with you OP, but I stuck with it for around 30 hours, and then nearing the end I just couldn't stand it anymore. Recently I started playing it on PC as I really like the retro PS1 like aesthetics but damn this game is so fucking stale and boring. The music is also really bad. The only good thing about this game is the graphics.
Overall it just makes me want to play Grandia on the PS1, it's a much better game in every single aspect. That being said, don't buy Grandia 2 on PC, it's a glitchfest that keeps crashing and has no autosave so every time it crashes enjoy having to redo hours of stuff, as this game has old school save points (one in the beginning of the dungeon, one at the end before the boss).
>>332263484
Grandia on the PS1 has far better NPC dialogue than this. In Grandia most NPCs interact with the cast in different ways, in this one most NPCs spout their uninteresting monologue and that's it. Also I don't get your point on world building, what's there to build in such a bland, uninteresting world?
>>332254759
Yea OK 60hrs to get a mecha that doesn't fly and the combat never gets good when you do get one
>>332278794
>suddenly
>>332279043
>>332279271
Grandia is good too, but Trails has better writing.
>>332279502
Yes, suddenly. Did you play the game?
>>332279627
Yeah and it was obvious from the start that she had feelings for him.
>>332279560
But also worse writing. Reams of it spoken by zero use NPCs at the slightest provocation. I really don't think people would object to the core cast talking so much if the plot wasn't buried in filler.
>>332280134
Not at all, it's all pretty good and most of the NPCs have their own story to follow. The fact that it usually updates after main quests and usually acknowledges what happens in those events is a nice bonus too. It's also optional so you don't have to read it if you hate reading (but I don't know why people who do play Trails then complain about it).
and the graphics...they could be cool 2d sprites,but no,they use so shitty models.It is like ff vii and its horrible 3d characters
The first game is literally a 30 hours prologue where NOTHING happens until the very end when the main villain is revealed, the characters are one-dimensional trophes (Estelle and Olivier are funny, but that's it) the combat is easy and boring as fuck (use normal attacks on mobs to build up your special attack bar then use that on bosses, rinse and repeat).
I can't believe people are actually defending it. SC is another matter, but FC was a complete borefest.
>>332280252
That's nice but it's wrong. Maybe you should take a class on reading comprehension.
>>332279695
Yes of course, they are siblings. Why wouldn't she love him.
Start of the game: "yeah this is my brother. We can share a room together"
End of the game: "D-don't tell them we are siblings. A-are we gonna share this room a-alone"
>>332280339
Nice counterargument, fuckboi.
>>332281097
>Start of the game
This is my brother. I totally love him as a brother even though we act like a couple and everyone thinks we're a couple. I totally just like him as family even though I get jealous of other girls giving him attention and embarrased at the thought of being together with him.
>End of the game
Joshua fuck me now
Joshua has only been with the Brights for five years, so it's not like the Westermarck effect would even take place considering Estelle and Joshua first met just before or as they hit puberty.
>>332281206
If you actually think nothing happens for 30 hours then you read at the level of an elementary schooler, because that means you either haven't beaten chapter 1 after 30 hours, or you haven't noticed the blatant foreshadowing from the end of chapter 1 onward.
>>332281490
>Being this salty
Play better games, Trailsfag.
>>332281849
>Too retarded to understand the plot
>hurrrr bad game
i love /v/
>>332263484
>worldbuilding isnt for everyone friend
This fucking meme again. I fucking love worldbuilding. I can play entire games just for their interesting settings. TiTS' world is detailed but for me to care about its details it also has to be interesting, which it isn't. It's one of the most run of the mill jrpg worlds I've seen, at least in the first (according to steam) 27 hours of play.
I can appreciate the amount of different lines the NPCs have, it's quite frankly incredible, but hardly any of it is actually more interesting than the average irrelevant line the nobodies in other jrpgs spew.
>>332283998
>look guys how special i am
ok buddy
/v/ is full of otaku who will defend their generic schlock to the death and treat it like the second coming. You should be extremely skeptical about any JRPG recommendations you get here.
