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Where did it go wrong?
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>muh kurrugun
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>>332234307
Right about here
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>Blizzard

SC was the only good thing they ever made.
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Obviously it had gone to hell long, long before this scene, but jesus christ Blizzard
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Millenials cant handle 1 v 1 games, they need to have someone else to blame when they lose
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Honestly it's because they killed their custom game scene. That's what kept wc3 alive for so long and they just refused to admit it.

They tried to monopolize the custom game scene so they didn't lose out on another dota.

As a result, the serious mappers worked on real games so they could continue to operate on their own.

It's not great, but the arcade is 10x than it was at launch. It's actually playable now, and a lot of good remakes are back

but it's still not the same

thank blizzard for fucking shit up
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they hired a little gook prick named D. Kim
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become more fantasy / romance than gritty scifi betrayal
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>>332236047
I was so hyped for that new map editor.
When it came out, it was hard to do even the simplest things without breaking something.
Killed it for me
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sc2 threads
most cancerous threads I've ever seen
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DAE think they should have left Starcraft after Brood Wars?
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>>332235743
What the fuck is this shit. Can somebody explain this?
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>>332236358
are you talking about the most influential meme factory left on 4chan?
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Probably when they decided to make Starcraft 2 an episoding 20-part miniseries of standalone games to jew you out of maximum shekels.
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>>332236443
X-Men showed up
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>>332234307

its because wow was never popular
blizzard lies on the internet and you impressionable idiots suck their jewish bullshit up

no game after wow has been the product of a successful rich game company.
diablo3 and sc2 are purposely meant to deceive, to hide the illusion of high quality while everyone ignores the lack of content.
most the limited budget is spent on high quality CGI cutscenes while the actual content is fucking pathetic.

this is what happens when people allow a rat fucking jew into the PC gaming market
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>>332236283
Yeah.

and i've figured it out. It's not as hard as it seems. but their restrictions on uploading and all kinds of shit killed it for a lot of people, plus no open lobby list. which makes no fucking sense.

It's there now, though. finally.
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>>332236480
>most influential meme factory
good one
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>>332236443
Kerrigan turns into the human torch because she is the key to all this, if we get Kerrigan working. 'Cause she's a more combustible character than we've ever had in the games.
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>>332236668
you know that one meme that's super popular right now?

yeah, they invented it
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>>332235743
>>332236336
Fuck SC2.

Fuck the campaign.
Fuck the MP.
Fuck the custom games.

Campaign's gameplay is fun but the story is so fucking stupid and full of platholes that doesn't make any sense. Characters from the 3 games don't interact or have any interesting to say nor is there any consequences.
That they even managed to produce this piece of shit and think "yeah this is Starcraft alright" astounds me, there is no respect to the source material in any sort of way.

Multiplayer is basicly blizzard forcing their "meta" on others just like Riot is forcing their "meta" in league of casuals.

Blizzard wanted 100% control of custom games because they didn't want something like Dota 2 escape from them again. That it's easier to find a custom game in WC3 than SC2 should give you some warning signs.
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>>332236047

err, nah.

I would wager the majority people give no fucks about custom games, so I doubt it played any major role in the downfall of sc2.

the problems started towards the tail end of wings of liberty and compounded as it went hots -> lotv.

they accidentally killed their competitive scene which was the #1 driving force behind sc2 due to poor balancing and interaction w/ the community.

> in b4 sc died after brood war.

yeah i guess being the biggest & most lucrative e-sports for scene like half a decade counts as dead lmao.
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>>332236730
ded gaem?
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>>332236802
you know which one
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>>332234307
Casualized and wowified.
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>>332236713
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>>332236668
Which meme anon
Post it
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>>332236871
Which
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>>332236898
>>332236993
you know...
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>>332236730
>all of these anons taking your bait
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>>332236730
Which meme faggot
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>>332236358
do you like them...
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>>332236358
do you like them...
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>>332236358
do you like them...
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>>332236358

apologize
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>>332236358
You will never find finer shitposters than in SC2 general
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>>332236358
omo...
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>>332236358
suck my fucking dick retard
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someone post the kelly milkies nudes, please
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*imagines the smell*
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whatever happened to nigba?
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>>332236770
They do , though.

You think dota / aos spawned out of a dedicated few?

Custom games carried wc3 for a long time anon. Their comp scene was always smaller than sc1.
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>>332236358
idiot
-1
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>>332236480
this desu

I go there and steal memes. so easy to get (you)s on boards like /tv/ and /sp/ if you use fresh sc2 memes
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>>332236358
our guy.....
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KPOP BREAK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXKDu6cdXLI
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/scv/ changed the entire shitposting metagame

>we invented bait, b8d, etc.
>we invented "dead game"
>we found the hafu nudes
>we trolled moot to anger
>we invented the facebros
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tfw no one remembers the incident
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I fucking knew you fags would come in here
enjoy your shitposting
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>>332237931
I remember

I don't want to but I remember
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>>332237931

we don't talk about the incident...
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Reminder that /scv/ literally forced the only female sc2 pro in Korea out of the scene and made her close her twitter
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:3
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kbutts...
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I saw Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson in a grocery store in California yesterday. He was wearing a greasy tank top. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was a little taken aback, and I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his fat hand shut in front of me over and over again. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle and fart as I walked away. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>332237931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWAxWdC26zY

now they do
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>>332237931
I have no idea what the incident is. Please tell me.
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>>332238225
wow dude haha this is funny lol xD
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>>332234307
Having nice things is too much to ask anon.
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>>332238269
:D
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sc2 is the reason why /vg/ exists. for this reason, i propose we put a permanent ban on sc2 and all things starcraft related including kpop, streaming, esports, and plastic gooks in order that we might never repeat such mistakes again.
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>buy game
>install game
>get placed in bronze
>no one cares because im bronze
>get silver
>get laughed at by every one in the game
>get gold
>get laughed at for being a try hard but still sucking dick
>get platinum
>get shited on by diamond because diamond is the 1st "respectable league"
>get diamond
>get slapped down by masters players every time i have an opinion on anything
>get masters
>every GM laughs at you for thinking you're good and not a complete scrub; for some reason bronze-golds think they can give you advice
>get GM
>"lolol why you no play on KR scrub? NA masters is KR bronze"
>get KR platinum
>get shited on by diamond because diamond is the 1st "respectable league"
>get KR diamond
>get slapped down by masters players every time i have an opinion on anything
>get KR masters
>Polt laughs at you because sc2 is a hobby for him, yet still demolishes you
>get GM
>"lolol why you no play GSL? GSL players way better then shit ladder players.
>get into GSL
>Flash personally picks up the phone and dials my number, he tells me im trash and that ill never be good enough
>i can hear Bisu and Jaedong laughing in the background
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where is he...
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>>332234307
I miss the dark asthetic
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>>332236047
This entirely

>play SC:BW custom games for years
>"Oh boy! SC2? I can't wait for actual well made maps without all the limitations of an engine from the 90's!"
>literal no fun allowed maps since you can't have anything close to copyrighted material
>instead of picking a game from a list you get a bastardized version of matchmaking where only the top 3 games have any players

Such bullshit, after realizing I would be never be anything other than shit in ranked, there was nothing to fall back on. And their shitty expansions did nothing to entice me.

I hear their "arcade" is far superior than release, but it's too little too late.
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1. iNcontroL
2. Fatburger
3. infatroll
4. in n out burger
5. incholesterol
6. hotdog
7. Infatburger
8. 0-10 at every MLG burger
9. Passive-aggressive fatfuckcontrol
10. Fat
11. Has a heavy Base
12. Next Bonjwa at the buffet
13. Artosis' Bitch
14. hasn't got to first based with anna
15. InRefridgerator
16. Geoff "I hope he gets cancer so they can make a radiation machine for elephants" Robinson
17. fatty mcbutterpants
18. iNcardiacArresT
19. DTonlyNoControl
20. INCREDIBLEFORCEFIELDS Robinson
21: InCalulatableWeight
22: InConsiderateToChairs
23. InSatiable
24. iNtwoplaneseatS
25. iNbeachedWhalE
26. EG.HungryHungryHippo
27. InDigestion
28. iNb4HeartAttacK
29. inthefridge
30. EG.Tubby
31. They forgot the nuggets
32. iNdeniaL
33. EG.SponseredByJenny
34. EGs.iNeptdEadwEight
35. EG.BBW
36. iNexCuseS
37. EG.iNsaladDodgeR
38. Fatass
39. iNertiallyEnhanceD
40. Easy AI
41. EG.InDiamondLeague
42. iNevitableBlackholE
43. EG.GibMorMoni
44. iNdestructableRock
45. EG.PleaseDontGetDetection
46. iNMcDonalds
47. EG.noTiNannA
48. Geoff "Cheesier than ActionJesus" Robinson
49. EG.DarkTemplarsImminent
50. inconTROLL
51. inconsucky
52. iNd1spUt4ble
53. EGfatburger
54. 2 combo 3, combo 4, 3 combo 5, combo 6 and combo 1. And a diet coke.
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>>332234307
shitposting aside, Blizzard went rotten when they decided to make eSports instead of videogames. Their most popular esport is the one that they had no intentions of making an esport, and it's a literal card game.

Spending a year on Terran and then rushing out Zerg and Protoss in a few months didn't help either
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>>332238354
/vg/ is best board doe
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>>332238403
Tonight we mourn for a friend who has left us. While he hasn't left us in body, he has left us in soul. We remembered him each day for his diligence in posting, and thought of him as one of our own. However, it became apparent to us today that he cannot, and will never be one of us. Seduced by the satanic forces of normalfaggotry, his once chaste and dedicated lifestyle was ruined.

Rest in Peace, the soul of Dollfucker. We mourn tonight for Dollfucker's poor widowed dolls, all 150 of them. Who will dote on them when he is out trying to seduce blonde haired women or getting drunk with his friends on new years eve? Who will disgust us just at the thought of the perverse acts he commits with his harem of plastic wives?

We knew you for too short a time, Dollfucker. We'll always remember you, and mourn for you. And maybe, one day, when you come to your senses, you'll remember the love you had for you family of silicon, horse hair, and delicated painted and crafted eyelids.

We'll always be waiting for you, Dollfucker.
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>>332238479
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>>332238403

konata's vagina has a peculiar and arousing smell
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>tfw rainbow loudly fucks aphrodite every night on a bunk bed just above Destiny, and sometimes , when he pulls out some semen hits Destiny's face while he is crying alone in the dark thinking about how shit he is at the game and intends to go back to carpet cleaning anytime soon.
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>>332238208
You had those two in SC1.
I still no fucking idea what they are, even after all these years.
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why are sc2 my feel when pics so the best?
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>>332234884
>kill kael bc we need boss fights
>bring him back
>kill him again
>kill illidan
>bring him back
>Kill him again

Need idea for new game:
>literally cop watchmen and rise of the planet of the apes

Dude was good but now is complete bs.
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TRUE DONG
HONGTISM
KELLY MILKIS NUDES

and i dont know what else, maybe avatars

are all the same fucking person

who is on /v/ looking for sc2 generals
all
day
long

what is your story dude?
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>BW
>hundreds of fangirls in the audience even if its the beginning of a season
>tons of cheering, you can hear their passion

>sc2
>maybe 2 people in the gom studio if theyre lucky
>no cheering
>have to bribe people with free pizza to show up
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>>332234307
there's a picture of a SC2 design meeting where everyone had alcohol. They made this game while drunk.

my sc2 general folder is over a gig in size and I can't find the particular image right now.
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>>332237931
>tfw jinro is with a qt korean gf and living in korea, while I'm still on 4chan.

Feels Bad Man
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did we ever get a proper explanation for this?
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>>332239094
Reminder that the new gom studio was literally funded by jihadists
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>>332234307

Is "custom games" a fucking meme that everybody keeps parroting around?

I remember literally 100% of my friends playing SC:BW all the fucking time on battle net and in internet cafes. And I don't mean autist custom games to "have muh fun", nobody cared about that stuff. No, I mean getting gud in the game to win tourneys and mousepads. It was praised, it was worshipped.

Now literally 0% plays it.

The question is: Why SC2 is bad _compared_ to BW? What makes it a worse esport discipline than BW?

>muh custom games
just. fuck. off
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You see, Araragi-san,
In the way, the supernatural is what's happening behind the curtain.
Normally, you only need to see what's happening in stage.
That's how reality works.
If you don't know then it's for the best.
Actually, learning about the supernatural
only increases the number of things you don't know.
I see.
Anyway,
we've been talking for a while.
Sorry for stopping you, Hachikuji.
It's fine.
I'm basically always lost.
In a way,
Isn't Araragi-san's house here?
I guess I was just walking around, saying.
You aren't going to disappear, are you?
You spend so much time worrying about others.
The only people you foist
your problems on are Shinobu-san and me, right?
I won't leave
really...
I'm really in trouble,
would you help me?
Sure, I would.
Of course I would .
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>>332239375
It wasn't as big in sc1, but it was huge in wc3. The game was carried because of it. LIterally more people played dota / custom games than the actual game, proven by actual tournes.

When the custom map editor sucked so bd with so many restrcitions, it's no surprise the casual base didn't latch onto sc2. A lot of us never liked the hyper competitive scene anyways. Don't be a retard.
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>>332234307
>Deathballs

Probably increase max number of selected units, I know it was because of a limitation in SC, but probably affected more than they realised.

Also, didn't hate WoL, but the expacs and the prices were extortionate and not really sure why, I can get down with the SP aspect but it had to fragment the community a bit.
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>>332239375
>The question is: Why SC2 is bad _compared_ to BW?
>What makes it a worse esport discipline than BW?

Probably the worst offenders are deathballs caused by unlimited unit select, and the lack of an advantage to expanding in sc2 compared to brood war. They fixed the later somewhat in LotV, but having 3 bases isn't economically better than 2 bases if you have the same amount of workers.

Early SC2 was all sorts of 2-base/3-base all ins because there was no reason to EVER have more than 3 active bases. It's the same right now in LotV but the bases just run out so quickly that you have to constantly expand.
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>>332239375
Starcraft 1 was a more balanced, faster paced based game than WC3.

WC3, while slower with more burdensome mechanics, had a lot more custom map potential, and it's funny that you didn't mention Warcraft 3, because everyone else is. SC2 isn't just being compared to SC1, it's also being compared to WC3, another RTS made by literally the same people. It's not apples to oranges, it's apples to apples, even if they were strong for different reasons.

The custom game scene in WC3 was so strong that it literally invented the Genre Moba, so you can get right the fuck out of here with your contrarian ass. You won't be missed.
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>>332238982
FRUIT SELLER
DONG RAY GOO

I wonder what they are doing now..
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>>332239810
retired
played today for team korea in a showmatch vs team world/foreigners
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no lan
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how much longer will this go on
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>>332240034

gamer food
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>>332238907
In SC1 the Creep was basicly the "flesh" of Zerg buildings.

So, imagine they spawned organs etc on the creep.

Sunken colonies were like limbs etc.
Spine Crawlers are seperate entities for some reason.
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>>332235529
warcraft 2 and 3 were pretty good
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Anyone remember the blue hair guy?
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>Starcraft 1 is mature and takes itself seriously for the most part. Story isn't afraid to kill off characters and defines each race's ideologies well. Graphics were some of the best sprite work seen with excellent sound design to accompany it.
>Starcraft 2 now has WoW graphics, clings onto the original's (now outdated) voice acting, and generalizes each race (muh backwater western Terran, muh ancient honorable Protoss, muh starship trooper zerg). Annoyed lines are chock full of memes and 'funny' references.
>Excellent soundtrack in the original, produced some of the finest music of it's time for video games
>SC2 doesn't emulate it's success and the music sounds more generic and less unique than it's predecessor.
>Completely fucked the story into Disney-tier, romantic comedy dogshit. Commander Raynor becomes an alcoholic despite his valiant efforts and charismatic leadership in the first game? De-Zerg Kerrigan so her and Raynor can live happily ever after :^) Fuck you Blizzard.
>Starcraft 2 now has WoW graphics.
>Brood War added interesting new units to shake up the game play, while keeping them realistically tied to their each individual race (Lurkers, Valkyries, etc.)
>Starcraft 2 units are generally uninspired or lacked the charm of original units (Dragoons replaced with walking AA guns, cool dude).
>Flying healing unit, le EPIC transforming unit, and an air unit that can't even go into space, what the fuck?
>What if we added Infested Terrans to Zerg again, but much earlier, no risk to get (just build a baneling nest lol), easy to create, and more cancerous?
>"Shit dude our Protoss homeworld of Auir is getting completely FUCKED UP. What should we do?"
>"Yo what about those gigantic war machines that massacred lots of weak ground targets (kinda like the Zerg, huh?) we have just sitting around the galaxy?"
>"Nah dude it would take too long let's wait for them to kill our fucking homeworld first"

I will never not be mad.
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I gave up on SC2 after I defeated the legendary avatarfag tosog in a ladder game to end all ladder games.
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>>332240368

did he offer to grant you a wish if you spared him
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>>332234307
They waited WAY too long between games.
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>>332236770
>they accidentally killed their competitive scene

How?
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>>332240368
based af
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oh well at least bw hd is coming
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>>332240795
explain
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>>332237545
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>>332239754

An actual answer. Thanks.

>>332239753
>>332239775

I am not trying to be a contrarian ass, no. This whole "map editor is bad" argument feels like saying "chess doesn't have a map editor hence it's a bad game". If the only thing that keeps the game from being dead is its map editor (i.e. often completely different games) it feels wrong.
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mahe? more like tranhe
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>>332240308
>197 blue hair chans

can anyone beat me?
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>>332240909
blizzard is remaking d2 and bw and wc3 in hd
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>>332240984

tell bomer i believed in him
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>>332241081
Just an HD remake? They're not gonna retroactively shit up the canon, are they?
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>>332240929
There was a lot of problems. It wasn't that the map editor was bad. It was the map editor was bad, the custom game lobby didn't exist, and you could only see the "top played" (which remained the top played for 3 years due to the system) and you could only upload so much mb of file, you couldn't have x y z content due to copy right, i could go on.

Get educated on the problems before you say "lol no didn't matter"
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>>332240984
yes
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>>332241183
get masters or die ladderin'

BHC is probably one of my favorite things from /scv/. I wish the threads didn't consume themselves with shitposting but that's what happens when your threads are proto-/kpopgen/

>>332241141
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>>332236619
no, it's when they spread their only true talent to thin. Metzen was the father of the Diablo universe, Diablo 2 was gold. He also worked on SC franchise at the same time.
They pulled him from that and made him work on WoW and WC3, when they took his team away from that to focus on more admin stuff rather than creating it went to shit.
By time he got back on the WoW train the game had already turned to shit, the players were cancer, and while Metzen was trying to do all this work other teams were screwing up good franchises.

Bottom line, Metzen IS or WAS Blizzard. They should have never relied on one dude so much or taken his genius for granted.
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>>332241374

based
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you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

what a shame
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>>332241081
No. They are simply patching the games to work on newer OS and reworking the way you can toy with the graphic settings so you don't need to play in a squished full screen mode.
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>>332237545
for
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>>332241695
There used to be a job posting that suggested an HD remake was coming.
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>>332239329
I hate saudis, can't wait for trump to stop buying oil from them
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1. muh kerrigan
2. revolution overdrive
3. recycled WC3 plot
4. zerg dindus
5. forcing raynor to kill tychus
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TYCHUUUUUUUUUUS
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>>332234307
RTS is a dead genre
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friendly scves~!

:3
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nova's butt is blizzard's greatest achievement of sc2
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