Where were you when Street Fighter 5 died?
>>332216258
>March update wont be balancing characters
Lookslike I'm not coming back then.
P O K K E N
T O U R N A M E N T
>>332216258
>USF4 finals and is on main stream
>SFV isn't until later tonight
Enjoy your (you) and your sage.
Don't be an idiot. The NorCal finals for SFIV are going on right now. Yesterday there were 50k people for SFV pools. Finals are tonight.
>>332216258
>livestream viewcounts are precedent for a games success
I fucking hate twitch culture.
>>332216545
Its just as bad if not worst and only popular currently because Nintentoddlers are suffering from a content drough (like always) with nintendo games.
>>332216258
sfv finals isn't until 8pm
sfv had 50k viewers last night
pls try harder mate
>>332216812
>60% of people on twitch are kids
>>332216448
they said since the beginning that balance will only come in december After CPT. Also it's way too early to balance anything
>>332216448
>game has been out less than 3 months
>it needs to be balanced!
spot the diaper
>>332217071
>Chun Li is OP
>Rest of the cast is suffering from being to underpowered to others
Theres literally a huge fucking gap in match ups right now.
EVO embraces it, so it'll never die.
>>332217304
We really aren't in a position to comment on the meta in any authority. Jesus, don't you people know anything about meta? Protip: It's in its infancy right now.
>>332217304
Is that why top 8 in FR were all different characters?
Is that why top 8 in NCR have only one repeat?
Chun Li is top tier, no question about that. But the gap isn't that great at all.
Why do people cry out for nerfs instead of working on finding ways to combat said op characters?
Is it too much work?
>>332217304
Thats why Chun is totally dominating the tournament scene... oh wait shes not.
>>332217602
People are stupid and lazy. The game isn't 100% solid but its pretty damned balanced for the first iteration.
>>332216258
good troll op, good sfv stealth tread
I want to cuddle with bonita.
>>332216258
NCR is currently in the SFIV bracket right now so of course more people are watching.
Why don't you make this thread again once the SFV bracket comes up?
>>332217602
>>332217926
scrubs always whine about whatever beats them
i've even seen people whine about ken being OP because they couldnt deal with h.tatsu into h.dp of all things
from my experience (mainly played ryu) zangief and mika seem a little weak, the rest is allright.
>>332218518
IMO Zangief is the only person that obviously needs some help. Snakeeyes is the only one that can really use him at top level. Problem is with Gief if you give him the wrong changes he'd be a monster.
I think Fang should get a bit more damage as well. I mainly play Nash and Necalli, no real complaints for those guys. May try out Ryu some more and definitely want to pick up Alex on the 30th.
>>332216448
>Wanting them to "balance" characters on the most balanced vanilla street fighter ever released
Go back to whatever shit game you came from
Whose ready for /notrailer/ here?
>>332219169
I really don't care since Alex himself comes out in three days
>Street Fighter 5 is less successful than Darkstalkers
>>332217214
Spot the corporate apologist
>>332219682
>I know that a fighting game needs time for the metagame to evolve before balancing
>This makes me a corporate apologist
You don't even play fighting games beyond story mode, do you
>>332219270
>Believing the March meme
>>332219789
The characters determine the metagame. If you playtest the game significantly you will be able to predict the metagame
>>332220106
>If you playtest the game significantly you will be able to predict the metagame
That's not how that works at all.
>>332220196
>Playtest game
>figure out char x is broken
>"Everyone is going to try to use char x"
Lesser cases are just less extreme
They're just waiting for melee.
>>332220331
You're not going to see what characters are broken until the game is let out in the wild.
Why do you think tech gets discovered months and YEARS after games come out? You can't accurately test everything yourselves
>>332217612
>>332217551
Eat shit.
>>332219789
>>332217214
MKX was saved only because of frequent patches.
Lack of attention will kill V.
>>332220529
>Lack of attention will kill V.
The game isn't having a lack of attention. We are literally getting a new character in the next week.
You don't patch shit left and right less than 3 months after the game is out. You need to let players figure shit out before you start nerfing shit. Haven't you people ever wondered why every fighting game has SEVERAL tier lists that come out throughout its life?
>>332220529
>MKX
>saved
>frequent patches
It took them one year to fix the netcode.
MK fans are absolute shiteaters who dont care about vs play though.
>>332220514
THawk jumped up massively in the super turbo tiers 10 years after the game came out IIRC.
You can't balance a game properly without it being out in the wild for a while. To do otherwise is folly. Constant patches will kill a game because it doesn't let people get a feel for it.
>>332216258
Capcom runs the Street Fighter competitive community.
They have no choice but to move on.
>>332220872
They'll just decide it's no longer profitable and abandon it altogether. Just like they already did in the early 2000s.
>>332221008
Honestly right now what does Capcom even have other than Street Fighter and Monster Hunter?
>>332221262
resident evil remakes
>>332221008
Delusions.
>>332217071
>they said since the begining that balance will only come in december
not my problem if they commit literal suicide on launch.
>>332221008
Poor sales likely put Ono on even more of a back foot.
If sales don't multiply by the end of the year then this pro tour is likely the end of SF for them.
>>332219789
it really doesn't take 10 months to test a 16 character roster especially after a few tourney.
>>332221262
Well, they won't have Street Fighter much longer.
>>332221614
As pointed out above, Super Turbo's tier list has fluctuated for years. YEARS.
Hell, when the game dropped, people thought Dee Jay was the strongest character in the game. He's not considered the strongest anymore.
>>332221614
Things aren't that bad. There is no desperate need for any changes (unless you main gief, then I understand). There's no real tiers yet, its too early.
As a fighting game enthusiast I always get false hope seeing a thread on fighting games on /v/.
Every time I think, "maybe this time people will not shitpost, saying things that are false and are only meant to annoy others"
Another disappointment.
>>332216812
>music
>talk shows
>video games
Who is your hardest matchup?
I find I have to work twice as hard to be on par with a decent Ryu, they just turtle all game and shit out simple 3 hit combos that hit Karin for 30%.
>>332222030
The Capcom hate is strong in /v/ for some reason. They always derail it into some finances shit when we don't even know how the game did or how one of its main sources of revenue are going to pan out.
Why is nobody playing Touhou on twitch? They look and sound amazing and would be very watchable.
>>332222030
The ones that dont start with blatant shitposts are alright.
>>332222241
To me Bison's fucking annoying as shit in this game, especially with characters with shit long game like Necalli.
>>332222242
That's because they're butthurt about Megaman Legends 3.
And you know what? Good riddance. I'm happy that Megaman Legends 3 got canceled, because those posters are total faggots that deserve it for shitposting in my threads.
Where the fuck is Urien? He would have saved this game.
>people complaining about SFV not being balanced
Do people just not remember what a shitshow vanilla SF4 was?
>>332222480
Necali V Bison isn't that bad when you realize all you need to do is get in once. He's got nothing outside of super on his wake up so you just gotta wait for him to get greedy like all bison players do.
>>332222721
First set of characters contains Urien.
>>332222741
no, people just get shit on by a character online and deem the game broken
>>332218818
Ok I'll go back to other games, just like everybody else. Enjoy your sinking ship now because they'll kill the servers in a few months.
You know whats weird I get more RQ d/cs from causal matches than i ever have getting to ultra silver in ranked.
>>332216753
>popular currently
It's not and it never was. If we're going to use streams as evidence of livelihood, Pokken debuted at like 7k and is now at like 300 and will probably just cease existing by next week. Interest at virtually any vidya place I go to is dead for that game, even /v/.
SFV is exactly where any other fighting game is. Dead unless a major player is streaming or a tournament is going
Not coming back until they make Zagief viable. "buh buh SNAKEEYES" Yeah and he gets bodied too despite being good, I guess you didn't watch him get bopped by a Fang player because of 0 wakeup game and no way to deal with fireballs other than risking 11 frame endlag "lariat" that can get hit and the worst vtrigger in game.
Anyone else really looking forward to the Trials? I have never been able to complete all of the trials for any character, but since SFV is so forgiving with the links, I think I might finally get to it this time.
>>332217612
Neither was Cammy when everyone claimed she was top tier, but no one questioned she was top tier. Much like how a character doing well in a tournament also does not make them good.
>>332217551
That's why Nash 3-0ed people in top play amirite lol
>>332220529
Let them learn a lesson
>>332216812
Why is UFC getting so many people
>>332222901
>Be Bronze
>A million kens
>Get ok at fighting kens
>Any time anyone else shows up I lose it.
Fuck my ass,
>>332223276
>Fuck my ass
let's see some pictures first
Rookie question: I wanna get into Street Fighter competitively. Should I refrain from learning IV and V at the same time? Further, is it detrimental to try and pick up more than one character at a time?
>>332223125
>endlag
>>332223382
Why would you want to learn 4? It's dead.
>>332223382
Probably if you are completely new it would be best to stick to one game.
Character-wise it would be useful to see who you like playing the most, then stick with them for a while. Don't think there's anyone in SF5 that will teach bad habits right now.
>>332223494
>Elena Fighter 4
I'm still mad that's how it ended after all this time
>>332223382
learning 4 now is an absolute waste of time and will only teach you bad habits for 5
learn 5 retard
>>332223382
Many people play multiple games but I would recommend sticking to one game as an absolute beginner.
Same with characters. Dipping into others is always nice, but picking one main and sticking to it while learning the game should be most optimal.
You should definitely try out all characters though to see what you like the most.
>>332223494
I may be new to the competitive scene but
>A SF game
>Dying
IV will have tournaments for years to come no doubt, it just won't get as much attention as V for a while.
>>332223382
If you're learning fundamentals, you should be playing 3rd Strike in addition to 4 and 5, in my opinion. When new characters come along that use those systems, those motions, those moves, you'll have seen them before, and you'll be getting a feel for things along the way. If you aren't struggling with execution and are going for frame data and stuff, just focus on 5, might as well, since that's what people are going to be playing.
>>332220756
I hope you don't play fighters. Is there a fighter fanbase not getting shit on right now?
>>332223740
>3rd strike
>fundamentals
>>332223657
You know prior to SF4, people barely even showed up or cared about EVO anymore regardless of if SF3 was there
>>332216258
This is literally the worst bait I've ever seen.
You get a star just for that lmao
>>332223820
I love fighting games.
Its why I dislike garbage like Mortal Kombat.
Since /v/ cant discuss fighting games, for who are you cheering in NCR?
I hope Tokido wins.
>>332223930
Well, if it's true that SFIV is gonna die that sort of irritates me. I feel like I missed a lot by not learning it when it was big.
Nothing for it now I guess.
>>332223972
Agreed. MK is trash and sick to look at. Gimmick fighter if there ever was one, right there with Smash.
>>332223972
So what fighting games do you like?
Honestly MK X is one of the only worthwhile fighting games in ages from a consumer standpoint. That and Pokken, really.
>>332224037
I'm watching top 16 right now but I want to see Marn get as far as possible just for the trolling
>>332224037
I like playing RMika myself, so I'm going for Marn.
I have no clue how this happened.
>>332224037
Anybody but Marn.
When is SFV?
>>332224130
>Honestly MK X is one of the only worthwhile fighting games in ages from a consumer standpoint.
>>332223643
Elena got BTFO at CC.
>>332224037
Probably Haitani. I love seeing Marn's dumb ass win with goof strats though, especially when Mike Ross is on commentary
>>332224142
>Actually wanting Marn to win
The guy is a grade A scum bag who should be blacklisted from the FGC, deserves it more than LTG ever would. But most of the key FGC guys are scumbags so Marn gets no punishments for his crimes.
I don't play fighting games so perhaps I don't understand, but what's the point of SFV? It almost looks EXACTLY the same as IV, but with only a fraction of the content. SFIV has a huge amount of content and characters while SFV looks like a rushed cash grab.
>>332224130
>from a consumer standpoint
More like "from a standpoint of people who don't give a shit about getting good and just want to hit buttons and watch cutscenes".
>>332223125
His v-trigger is pretty good.
>>332216258
we did it guys! we brought back the real street fighter
>>332220529
I cannot imagine how people like you would have coped with fighters before patches were a thing
>>332224301
She still pretty much kills any and all fun in the game.
>>332224130
You mean like when they released a PC version that is still broken and was abandoned? Great value for the consumer. Oh, but it has a series of gimmick modes and movie DLC! That's worth it!
Ever heard of Guilty Gear?
>>332224458
>Guilty Gear
not who you were talking to but releasing 20 versions for every iteration is bullshit
>>332224312
Better graphics, new characters, extra support, much improved online, new systems, new combos and possibilities for gameplay. Vanilla SF4 wasn't that hot either, even if SFV dropped the ball. If it came with Trials and Story mode it would already be better than SF4 just from a roster and multiplayer standpoint alone.
>>332224312
Graphics look much better in SF5 if you actually have played both. Gameplay they are very different. SF5 has much higher focus on offence compared to SF4's slower gameplay.
>>332224310
Why is Marn a scumbag? I don't remember paying much attention to him years ago, but so far he just seems like a clown, with Mike Ross playing up how terrible of a person he is.
>>332224292
They have content and are functional games, meanwhile SFV isn't.
>>332224313
Ah, the no-true scotsman.
Unfortunately even netplay barely functions in SFV so it's hard to git gud outside of a local scene
>atrocious matchmaking that ignores player level and rank at all times
>does not listen to connection settings, will still match you with a laggy BR even if you set 5 bar only
>numerous bugs in the lobby system. I still cannot join my friend in any lobbies nor can he join me
>memory leak issues and other optimization issues blatantly ignored in the PC version
>PS4 version always needs the training stage due to frame drops
The only thing SFV has going for it is that it's got a name that Capcom fanboys slurp up.
>>332224458
Man you mean like SFV which still has yet to fix its PC ports problems or even acknowledge they exist?
>GG
What does GG have to do with anything?
>>332224647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9caTktglhUI
>>332224658
>MK
>functional
>>332224620
Never happened.
>>332224647
Marn is the reason anime is never allowed at EVO and why Guilty gear was given the shaft for years. Dude fixed fucking brackets.
>>332224313
Actually MK X allows you better tools to git gud with because it has a better training mode that gives you shit like frame data and the like right there instead of needing to buy Capcoms iphone app, only 2.99 goy :^)
>>332224658
>outside of a local scene
Found your problem champ. Fighting games will always be best played locally.
>>332224757
>what is revelator
>>332224730
>I have no counterpoint
Have a (You)
>>332224825
My local scene is 10 times the size of yours desu, but my point still stands.
>>332224658
>Man you mean like SFV which still has yet to fix its PC ports problems or even acknowledge they exist?
Yeah man, a memory leak is totally comparable to a game that never worked properly, online that was patched to death and never worked right and getting totally abandoned with no explanation. Totally comparable.
>>332223098
Why would anyone watch fightan streams out of tournaments? Pro players won't show tech on stream, and there is no reason to watch 4000lp shitters, as they won't show anything amazing.
>>332224891
You didnt even try.
>>332224620
My problem with GG/BB is that you have to pay full price for every iteration, no DLC updates. It's just fucking annoying to have to pay $70 for a few new characters. I like the core gameplay, but it's just an asshole move to do that every year.
>>332224725
What. Is all of that true or hyperbole? Hard to tell sometimes. I remember hearing something about the guilty gear thing but not the rest.
>>332224885
New characters, new features and enhanced online. Same thing SF did, except with extra content.
>MK babbies
the most casual blight
>>332224915
Let's see where we are in a year? If Capcom is not even mentioning these glaring issues that cause the game to be unplayable for many, why do you believe they will care to support PC?
@332224989
No more free (You), young /pol/tard
>>332224920
Same reason why people watch mediocre CSGO players or mediocre Souls players - it's often about the personality and not the game.
>>332225025
yes, and I'm saying that that is a shitty practice for fighting games
it splits the community and you basically HAVE to buy the all new version if you want to keep playing because nobody will be playing the old one
I bought SFV exactly for the reason that they dropped this dumb shit
>>332225018
same, I really love how it looks but new iterations always suck
I could never get into street fighter because of that
>>332225025
It's a new version of the same game exactly like extends. It's bullshit and arcsys is the jewiest fighting game company in existence
how many time from now for SFV finals?
>>332225130
What are "these glaring issues"? There is a single issue, and it's miles and away less serious than anything that happened with the MKX release. Besides, Capcom eventually did fix USF4 on PC, at least they have that going for them. When's MK going to get fixed?
>>332216258
>>Where were you when Street Fighter 5 died?
* Saving money for a PS4
* Patiently waiting for GGXrdR
* Patiently waiting for KOF14
* Still mad that greaseball Takaki won't put Murasame in Senran Kagura EV, even as a DLC.
* Hoping SF5 flops like a dead fish being kicked around when better fighting games come around.
>>332225025
>Same thing SF did
>except with extra content
What a joker you are.
Revelator only adds four characters for 60$.
>>332225209
Not exactly like the extend versions.
The extend versions had balance changes
>>332225323
Stop responding to shitposters.
>>332225321
bump for interest
>>332225165
Iterations themselves aren't bad. I had a problem with GG because it was full price per iteration. For the versions of SF4 they were $15 each (after Super anyway). That's much better than $60-70.
>>332225509
that is still more than 60$ you spend on a single game
it's like they force you to buy their DLC or you just can't keep playing and will be left behind
>>332225165
>>332225209
I think the way SFV is doing it is better, but I prefer yearly releases with good content and fixes than gimmick new releases every year with a number change which often makes the game worse. A platform like SFV isn't trivial to do, and doing it with an existing release like Xrd would just jew old customers out too anyway. It has to be done from the ground up to be worth it and be there from the start, like Capcom is doing.
>>332223382
how are you going to compete with people who played it for 10+ years?
>>332225332
http://theplatformer.net/2016/03/25/guilty-gear-xrd-revelator-screenshots-showcase-new-features/
>>332225321
in 3 hours
>>332225736
Oh I'm sorry, it adds another shitty cinematic.
Truly worth the full retail price.
>>332225509
Yeah, that's the real rub. Fucking bullshit. I suspect Xrd didn't do too well.
>>332225619
The iterations all have extra characters, so you are essentially buying bundles of characters.
Look, there have always been iterations. SF2 had... a lot. And back then you had to re-buy the full game because patches weren't a thing. Now we can just patch in balance /system changes, and sell characters. SF4's version packs were a move in the right direction ($15 for balance, system changes, and new characters), and SF5 is the end point. No iterations at all. But Guilty Gear still sells full releases, and that's it. It's just an asshole move. There is no excuse.
>>332225736
>PC version will come out a year from now.
>A week before they'll announce the new revision coming to consoles in 3 months.
At least there's Melty Blood
>>332225751
thanks anon
>>332226059
They already did Xrd, maybe it will only be 6 months now. They really don't give a shit.
>MK X is t-trash
>meanwhile the SFV community is sucking the cock of a mediocre player solely because he made mad dosh playing MK X
>>332226049
Guilty Gear sells a fraction what Street Fighter does, and in this market has a much lower retainment rate than Street Fighter by default.
It's a niche product, don't be surprised when they have to charge more for it.
>>332226049
I might have been fine bending over and taking it for Arc with Revelator if they'd bothered to at least balance the existing cast. I understand the game's coming out with a lot of modes and additional single player content but from someone not terribly interested in the new characters there's just not a lot in that package for me.
And they didn't even bring in rollback style netcode.
>>332226278
Don't be surprised when I refuse to pay for it. And I am part of that niche, being in a niche area does not mean you lose all consumer rights and let yourself get fucked in the ass
>>332226278
Charging more for it will drive out customers though. I've completely dropped the series because I'm sick of how they do things. And GGXX got me into fighting games. Arc is just really bad at pricing shit. $8 per character, who is then included in the full retail release next year? Nah fuck that.
>>332226278
> don't be surprised when they have to charge more for it.
They shouldnt be surprised when I dont buy their shit.
Especially with their treatment of the western audience and especially europe.
i love fighting threads
>everybody else is shit but me
>>332226450
>consumer rights
Nigger are you retarded
They gain more sales from that hardcore group of tournament players and story mode weebs than from the also small number of people who stay interested in the game long enough to buy DLC but won't buy a new game.
>>332226230
Go to bed Ultradavid.
>>332222222
>>332226792
>It's not consumer related, consumers really shouldn't expect a finished polished product for 60 dollars
I still don't get why tournament players believe they are the main audience and companies like capcom are goodwil foundations and not companies
>>332226821
Does UltraDavid dislike Sonic Fox? Well that's one thing in that fags favor.
TRAILER WHEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MIKAMANIACS ARE RUNNING WILD
I enjoy both games. I truly expect to see those numbers gradually invert. I would like it if they do as I think 5 is a better/more fun game, but if they don't its not a huge deal. SF4 is really good and has years of content and balance changes. SF5 is just beginning.
>>332226971
No. Ultradavid sucks his cock. No one likes fox, especially after his Final Round pop off. They won't stop shoving the faggot down everyone's throat.
SFV doesn't have Decapre and is thus an inferior game.
SFV had like 60k viewers yesterday.
And that was just pools.
>>332222030
The KoF threads are consistently good though.
>>332227245
Rolento*
ftfy, although I respect a fellow scrub character main
>>332227197
Chen also sucks his cock as do every other major player, Arturo, all commentato9rs, Aris etc etc
No one shits on the guy and if you do, he has a legion of fanboys to defend him and tell you you need to like him because he won at a bunch of niche titles no one played.
>>332216258
SFV is shaping up to be pretty hype desu.
Highlight from yesterday.
>>332227245
>Decapre was fucking TRASHED during her 5th character reveal
>Suddenly everyone loves her now
What happened?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zQNdB_U0k
>>332229010
People realized she actually wasn't a Cammy clone and was probably the funnest newcomer in SF4. People got hype for what they knew was going to be a model swap and set themselves up for fake outrage, because she's actually fucking awesome.
>>332224130
MKX is gimmicky trash brah
I literally like every fighting game but that one
Soul Calibur
Tekken
SF
Blazblu
Guilty Gear
Killer Instinct
Literally all much better fighters than MKX could ever hope to be. NRS made bank with that game but it still the poorest example of a fighting
>>332229010
they found out that she's a scummy scrub character and enjoy easy wins off scramble mixups and yoga inferno ultra
>>332216448
the balancing is fine.
>>332229461
Good for you.
MK X is a decent fighter.
>>332222959
there's no way you're stupid enough to believe that.
Tekken 7 will launch with:
35+ characters
Better graphics
Character visual customization with over a hundred items
Story mode
Arcade mode
VS CPU
Minigames
8-player lobbies
Working online
RQ punishment
More waifus
Harada wins!
Capcom should rename Street Fighter V as "Street Fighter X Tekken 2".
>>332229646
>more waifus
Unless he's adding the cast of idolm@ster I don't see that happening anon.
>>332229010
Its just one waifunigger on /v/.
decapre is shit.
>>332228978
>let me jump back at a range where he can't do anything unless I jump
>>332229487
Sounds like someone's getting bodied by scrubs, huh?
>taking an image during the USF4 finals when SFV isnt being played yet
Nice misleading image, bro.
>>332224813
You're fucking dumbass. MKX has less people streaming it than V
Face it it doesn't matter how in depth MK is. The who by that shit are fighting game fans. They're fans of novelty blood and gore porn
>OMG le gross man just took off that other gross guys head off! Le blood cool!!!!
God damn MKX is cancer
>>332230195
nah the decapre matchup isn't that bad, I just think the character is one of those braindead mahvel characters.
I do get bodied by Adons and Yuns though.
>>332229461
Fuck Necalli, nigga needs to get some pants.
>>332229646
My favorite part is that japs get to play the game for over a year while we dont get shit.
Truly thats what every fighting game enthusiast prefers.
>>332230743
SFV is even bigger cancer.
Would SF5 been a larger success if the developers had waited and included all the characters and features from the get go instead of the bullshit monthly update method they went with?
>>332229774
It has way more female characters, even proportionally.
>>332230807
Funny thing about that, she was developed by the team that made marvel while the sf team did elena and ported the others
>>332223949
>worst bait
>190 replies
It clearly worked.
>>332231068
so? only waifu I need is king
>>332231068
more females does not mean more waifus
It takes several minutes to find matches across PC and PS4 for SFV. It takes less than ten seconds in Pokken. Both games matches take about the same amount of time. Why would you ever play a game where you spend more time searching for a match than playing it?
>>332230743
Why are you so mad about MK's success? If you don't like it, then don''t watch it.
>>332231198
Asuka, Lili, Nina, Kazumi (literal waifu), Chloe, Ling, Leo, Josie,Eliza
Only shit waifu is Katarina.
>>332231265
Maybe one uses a more refined skill based match making than the other.
Like hell, dota 2 has like 500 million players and it still takes minutes to find a match due to matchmaking
So is Sean gonna be in this game ?
>>332229461
>Likes Soul Caliber
>thinks his opinion on fightan matters
>>332231647
How can it have more refined skill based matchmaking if you can never find people to increase your skill with? Plus Dota 2 matches take much longer. Hell, most non fighting games have long matchmaking times, but their matches last longer than a couple of minutes.
>Tekken 7 will be another dress like a retard simulator like TT2
>>332231905
LoL matchmaking will get you a match in literally less than 10 seconds if you pick "fill" or "support".
>>332232184
Cause i spend more time playing than match searching. I don't know what kind of third world internet you have but matches making takes less than a min for me.
>>332232369
My connection is fucking fast and when I pick Mid/Top I always end up waiting like 4 minutes for a match.
>>332224361
easy answer: they didn't
>>332230743
And MK is guaranteed to have a sequel due to its success, your game likely will not because as much as it pains you to admit, tournament attendance does not translate into mucho dollars in Capcoms pocket
8 mil buying a game and dropping it the next day>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3k people buying a game and playing it for 20 years
>>332230743
>he still thinks anyone who plays MK X cares about the blood an gore
>getting literally triggered over gore in a fighting game
If you get punched in the face 50 times, you aren't going to look like a pristine doll like Cammy right there. SFV goes for the waifu audience though so can't dirty those faces
>>332231017
Yes. If they had released a full game, they would have got the casuals they wanted. Instead they spent untold amounts in development trying to appeal to casuals, only to shit it all away with early access
>>332231649
No, it wouldn't make sense.
>>332225018
You've seldom had to pay full price for every iteration of GG
AC+ was a $30 PS2 release IIRC as opposed to GGXX on PS2, which was $50 new when I picked it up
BB started the Arcsys advanced jewing
>>332216258
anyone know how long the street fighter v finals are? i believe they are starting now
>>332231829
>he doesn't like SC
>thinks his opinion is worthy even the shit from a homeless man asshole
Literally commit seppuku
>>332216258
I'll let you know when it happens. casualfag.
ps. please stay the fuck out of my genre.
>>332232840
Marvel just started now. SF5 is after that.
>>332232771
I meant more from BlazBlue forward. Always full retail (except for one version I think?).
New Bloody Roar game fucking when?
>>332222721
>saved
I don't really see why. Urien was solid mid tier because he was slow and thus easy to parry. Lack of parry system may mean hell make a comeback but who knows.
Plus, literally no one ever played him in a way that doesn't involve AR shenanigans
>>332223930
That's because no one was making fighting games period. It's why outside of GG and maybe a new Tekken, we were basically playing nothing but 3S and Mahvel 2
>>332232997
I only picked up Continuum Shift after CT, so idk, I don't remember Continuum Shift being $60, but that game started the trend of overpriced DLC characters
>>332225332
They're adding 6 characters dumbass
>Mahvel
>No neo+yipes spanishcasting
>>332221262
That never ever game they called Deep Down.
>>332221513
How much DID SFV sell exactly? I heard it sold poorly, but given Street Fighter's reputation the lowest figure I can imagine is 500k. Or is it less than that?
Pools last night were hype as fuck, SFV is alive and well.
Marn 4 top 3
>>332233687
it was something like 400k iirc
SFV will have serious legs though, so long as Capcom doesn't fuck up majorlyagain
>>332233527
That's still at least $10 per character.
>>332233687
>Or is it less than that?
I doubt there's a solid figure, but there was over 3000 people registered for SF5 at EVO so far, so it's doing really damn well in tournaments. Which means more cash shop money for capcom.
>>332233859
You're getting 6 characters new mechanics, and an actual, working 3D online lobby. You get a story mode if you're a storyfag. That's enough to warrant for 50-60 bucks considering its been more than a year already
>>332234048
and if i'm only interested in keeping up with the scene while playing an existing character I still have to shell out $50-$60
yay
>>332234048
>That's enough to warrant for 50-60 bucks
ASW fanboys are fucking suckers.
60$ originally bought you 16 characters in Xrd, all the stages and the whole groundwork for the game.
Now you get six characters and some shitty cinematics.
Marn set to open a salt refinery after that match
>Marn disconnects his controllers before letting his opponent win
this fucker is gonna get dunked in sfv
Is SFIV still going on?
>>332234318
>>332234334
I don't get this mentality
You're going to keep up with a scene, paying 60 bucks without your character's moveset getting fucked over like Blazblue. You get working everything, you get something not half assed for the sake of presenting something on release date. You're going to play the game for more than a year.
Are capcom fans really this antagonistic or what?
>>332223273
I'd wager 80% of the viewers are from one or two channels.
>>332234401
If that thing on his leg doesn't kill him first
>>332216703
>sage
lol bumpstop announcing your sage dumbass
>>332234538
paying full price to keep playing a game is completely retarded
all new versions of SFIV were always cheaper and Super was a genuinely great deal when it released, all the new stuff in SFV is basically free
>Game is only 2 months old
>People already complaining about balance and wanting patches
I blame League of Legends for this.
>>332234538
Maybe because people realise there is no actual benefit to paying more for the same thing?
The update is balance changes, small mechanic changes, and new characters. That same sort of thing is sold for $15 by other companies. There is no particular reason to defend paying $60.
How does one ult in this game?
>>332234759
With the exception of BB Extend releases, you're always getting something new with each main iteration.
SF4 releases are usually just patches, characters and a few balance works.
>>332234830
SFV is surprisingly well balanced for an initial release. Any balancing at this point would be extremely minor.
The only real suggestion I might have is putting some i-frames on the startup of one of Bisons EX moves, but thats it.
>>332234856
You're getting an improved online infrastructure as well.
>People have this MMO mentality where they expect frequent balance fixes.
>Cant even see back a couple of years that the balance patches for SF4 were sold as new editions
>Expecting any different.
At least know what your getting yourself into before going all-in.
>>332234538
Whats there to get?
You are getting milked like a retard and I think thats shit because I'm not stupid.
>>332234830
Except SFV is literally trying to be the LoL of video games.
>>332235210
Define "improved onine infrastructure" because that should always be improved whenever possible.
This isn't "new game", this is "we added some stuff to an existing game" and should be priced as such.
>>332235265
But Capcom explicitly said this time that there would only be one SFV version.
Literally no excuse to re-sell the same version of the game these days.
>>332234830
Literally baddies that think x character is OP or broken when everyone is still gathering data. Instead if saying "yeah I'm bad how do I improve" they say "Chun is OP!"
>>332216258
more like boring fighter V
>>332235287
>>332235481
You are getting an actual working game on release with 6 new characters, old characters' movesets not changed because why fix what's not broken. You get new mechanics, a working online lobby.
The initial assumption is you get 10 bucks for each new character, you have 6 new characters, and if you care about aesthetic and single player content, you get new stages, a new story mode and other bonus content. If you're a graphicsfag, you have an improved engine too.
The last GG came out more than a year ago already, I don't see what's wrong with paying 60 bucks for something where the player base won't get screwed competitively because their character's moveset and routes changed completely. This isn't Blazblue. For a small company like ASW this is a step in the right direction. Capcom is already an established big boy company that can afford risks, of course you'll be getting something like small changes for small dollars.
I just don't see why the fan base can act like this when SFV came out it was lacking, had a lot of problems and say the other fighting game company is bad. Sure they'll fix it in some way, but let's not forget; Capcom fucks up too.
>Infiltration sitting in the Marvel 3 crowd, just waiting for that shit to end
>>332236302
Repeating your shitty reasoning like a broken record wont change peoples minds you know?
You're getting fucked over.
>>332236068
Remember when Nintendo said it wouldnt do DLC, that they only sold full games?
CApcom already made a lot of dosh selling thier updates. The question is, how badly do you want to imagine they have your best interest in mind.
>>332236302
> I don't see what's wrong with paying 60 bucks for something where the player base won't get screwed competitively because their character's moveset and routes changed completely.
Because THAT SHOULD BE BASELINE EXPECTED FOR AN ITERATION.
This isn't GGXrd2. This is a new iteration. It is not a new game, its an update.
>I just don't see why the fan base can act like this when SFV came out it was lacking
Yeah and everyone gave them shit for that, but this is IT. There's no $60 SF5 Turbo coming next year. You buy the characters you want with shit you earn IN GAME instead of real money. If you buy SF5 now, you will never actually ever need to sink an extra dollar into it for the live of the game unless you are lazy or want fancy clothes.
THAT is what should be expected for games now.
>>332216753
>Nintendo
>content drought
What genre are they exactly missing?
>>332236550
I'm repeating it because it's not getting through to you. Meme-ing it up doesn't change anything as well. When you can support a game that comes out all sorts of broken and lacking at launch and say it's fine then give another company shit then I don't know anymore.
>>332236659
Because Capcom will always be the forefront of the FGC and is expected to make the first move when it comes to advancing the community. It's expected from them. Compare that with ASW which is initially just making a step in the right direction by gradually lessening it Jew-ry.
So are you just giving the game shit because SFV got shit too?
>>332237348
Everything gets through. Its just that your points are fucking shit.
Not sure why you are deflecting at other games either. What ASW are doing is not fine.
I can live without that shit company.
>>332237348
Nobody cares about your anime fighter company that puts more money into anime tiddies and story mode than actual gameplay.
