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What ruined Bloodborne for you?
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Frame pacing ruined it for me, the stuttering was so fucking annoying that destroyed my immersion. Its a shame, i realy wanted to love this game
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Not being on PC.
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no pc version
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>>332210004
That It never came to PC
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>>332210004
Nothing because the game was fantastic. You're just a faggot
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>23 Bloodborne threads active since yesterday
Why is this allowed, stop
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>>332210082
>>332210050
>this is the power of pc
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>>332210004
Nothing technical, really. I thought it looked and preformed fantastic.
The only real "issue" I could see having with it is the grind-necessary healing option. I didn't really like having to stop and grind for echoes when I was running low on vials.

But besides that, it's in my top 3 favorite games of all time.
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Bloodborne was the best gaming experience I've had since Perfect Dark
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>>332210004
When i was playing on my ps4 i never really saw any frame drops or whatever
Am i just so accustomed to it that i cant tell anymore?
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Nothing ruined it but if I had to list complaints it would have been the framerate not being particularly solid and having to farm healing items. Also some of the enemies are just pure bullshit.
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>>332210320
It was an issue on release at that one part of the game in the very beginning which since has been fixed. People who keep posting about frame drops are parroting memes, simply uninformed, or legit just doing so for the sake of platform wars.
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Nothing "ruined" it, it had a few things that were disappointing, but what doesn't?
Still DaS > BB > DeS > DaS2
Until I get let down by DaS3
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>>332210089
>>332210082
>>332210050
>>332210004
PKeks have been engaging in full-on damage control ever since the revelation of PC having only meme games (Undertale, Simulators, LoL) and the fact that not only do they not ever get Bloodborne, they also get an inferior multiplayer experience on what Souls games (or any multiplat really) they game, riddled with hackers, tryhard streamers, and an all but abandoned coop/pvp scene
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The slow player animations bother me when the combat is more fast-paced.

>dodge roll feels like DaS midroll
>attack animations aren't cancelable and have long cooldown frames
>gun animations are painfully long
Meanwhile just about every enemy does not have the same constraints, including other hunters.

Also, many enemies have quick combo attacks which will stunlock you with any move in the combo because player stagger is pretty long.
And again, enemies do not have the same constraint.
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>>332210004
Nothing because I'm not autistic. Fuck Nightmare Frontier though.
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the game's content from amelia-gehrman was really boring and either far too easy, or frustrating.

The frenzy mechanic is really annoying and the blood vial farming was really unfun, and made every one I used feel like I was getting closer to having to farm them again.

The DLC was pretty decent, although I didn't like laurence/living failures, and I thought the areas were not that interesting.
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>>332210320
Yup
The patches fixed a lot, but there are still some areas where you can clearly see the frame drops. Too bad it will never come to pc, so I can play it all over again ;-;
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>>332210224
>grind-necessary
Its not necessary at all
Why do you think the game throws coldbloods your way so much?
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>>332210731
Perfect, undisputable taste.
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>>332210835
>player stagger is long
>gun animations are long
>attack animations have long cooldown
all of those are wrong though
What have you been playing, DMC4?
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>>332210004
>muh 60 fps
pcfats everyone
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Nothing, its my favorite game of all time actually.
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>>332210739
You seem really buttflustered about something but i cant tell
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>>332211263
I wonder what would happen if someone came along and put scattered packets of skittles around them all
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>>332210004
uh what does a technical issue have to do with its artistic integrity?
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>>332210004
Real question: Why Dark Souls 3 doesn't look so good ?

Is it because they didnt use the full Bloodborne engine for Dark Souls 3 because Sony owns it or something?

N\Both games should look the same yet even the Sewers, a dark area in DaS3 doesnt look as good as the Sewers in Bloodborne.

As for OP's question - the online system of Bloodborne was shit when I played (1-2 months after release)
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So Bloodborne thread then?

Just took down this motherfucker for the first time after what must have been 15-20 attempts. Goddamn what boss.
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>>332211263
What was the point of that again?
What were they protesting against?
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>>332211480
it needs to be able to run on PCs and xbones
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>>332211480
They have different artstyles, thats pretty much it though.

I think both games look amazing since they have the amped up level of detail that started with BB.
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>>332211517
>he didn't get a shot at Orphan yet
Wish I could see your face.
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>>332211169
Actually yeah, I stopped playing BB to play DMC4SE.

But I had those issues before anyway.

BB is supposed to be faster, but the player feels maybe only a step about DaS, while the enemies are like twice as fast.

It's a weird disconnect and I don't think it flows together well. Often it just means kiting enemies and fishing for parries, which isn't much fun if you ask me.
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>>332210004
they really fucked up invasions and PVP with the Bell Maidens

Also a PC version would have been nice
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>>332211263
What do I have to be buttflustered about? I own a PC and typically buy every console so I never have a shortage of games to play.

What I can't understand is the "brand loyalty" to PC gaming. There hasn't been a good reason to built a new rig or even upgrade in literally 10 years. And the migration to purely digital releases was a huge mistake. Fuck Steam.
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>>332211747
I don't feel that way at all.
I can run into a group of enemies and cut them down like a tornado every time, I don't see your complaint at all.
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>>332211887
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>>332210320
There was nothing as bad as Blighttown, or 2-2 in Demon's Souls
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>>332211678
But that's the point that they don't really.

Dark Souls is all matte gray and Road of Sacrifices textures are like ripped from Shaded Woods.
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>>332211682
Looking forward to it. I was a bit disappointed by how easy most of the bosses in the base game were so if the rest of the dlc bosses keep up Ludwig's pace I'll be more than happy.
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>>332211568
Some stupid SJ cause i dont remember
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I couldn't stand all the fucking motion blur.
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>>332211983
>>332211983
I wouldn't have said PC doesn't have anything worthwhile if it didn't, Anon. You posting that image PROVES my point, that there's nothing to look forward to as far as PC exclusives. Even one of last vestiges of quality PC titles, Trackmania, is coming to PS4 and I think Xbone.
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>>332211983
>all low budget or indie shit most of which is in early access or not even released yet
PC gaming is dead.
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Bossfights: BB > DaS > DeS > DS2

Level design: DaS > DeS > BB > DS2

Invasion mechanics: DeS > DaS > DS2 > BB

just facts
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>>332211983
Not him, but none of those interest me in the slightest.
>>332212019
They do have different artstyles still though.
BB is gothic lovecraftian horror while Souls is medieval sword/shield demons and knights
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>>332211682
Orphan was a big pain in the ass because the second phase looked like his behaviour was randomly generated and very hard to predict
Ludwig was a pain because he'd hit you even without actually hitting you, which is the biggest bullshit in From games
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Nothing. Its brilliant and entoxicating hell of a game.

I WANT MORE
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>>332211517
Fuck that boss, if your using a skill build it fucking near impossible without summons
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>>332212264
>Not him, but none of those interest me in the slightest.
because you only want to play sequels to thing that you're familiar with?
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Nothing. 10/10 perfect game.
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>>332212352
evey build is exactly the same

just dodge motherfucker
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>>332210004
>talking about a game you didn't really play
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>>332211907
I don't do that either. But I keep seeing people say BB is focused more on aggression, and I tried to play the game aggressively.

And it didn't really work out. I don't know how I can detail my issue more clearly.

The game wants faster combat, but the player isn't faster.

I also wasn't a fan of the high damage output, that felt kind if lame, particularly in the early game. A lot of the time I felt like I might as well not have HP at all, the way enemies just chopped it up.
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>>332212248
once past the SM cap I liked das2 the best, unavoidable unless burning a reagent at a bonfire
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>>332212384
No, because none of those things interest me.
Weird isn't it, some people don't like what you do.
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>>332212248
I would put DaS above DeS for invasion mechanics and BB above DeS for level design, possibly even above DaS, BB level design was fantastic and atmospheric as fuck.
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>>332212587
self-reflection is important

Be real now, what did you buy your PS4 for?
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>>332212561
If you played it once and never got good enough, the game doesnt get faster. Im not saying you're bad though, if it didn't click it just didn't click.
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>>332210739
holy fuck your english just stop already
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>>332210004
Multiplayer being PS+ only. Fuck that stupid shit.
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>>332212743
Bloodborne and some other games.

The fucks your problem? Not a single PC game interests me in the slightest and probably never will by the looks of it thus far.
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>>332212861
exactly, sequels to games that you're already familiar with

Prove me wrong
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>>332210904
>the game's content from amelia-gehrman was really boring
This. Snake forest sucks, Byrgenwerth and Lecture Hall are barely levels, Yahargul 2 sucks, Nightmare Frontier is nice to look at but sucks to play, Cainhurst has a good boss fight but is otherwise terrible, Nightmare of Mensis is shockingly bad for the final level. The only really great optional level is Upper Ward, and it's over in 5 minutes.

Even the DLC doesn't really make up for it. Ludwig is fucking spectacular but the rest of the bosses are meh and the levels inbetween are linear slogs.
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>>332212823
>being a native English speaker
Not my fault youre a monkey
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>>332212861
>some other games.
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>>332212987
>bloodborne
>a sequel
hokay m8
>>332213061
Yes?
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>>332210004
The horrible PVP and invasion system.

Also the fact that you had to farm the garbage chalice dungeons to get weapon upgrades.
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>>332210082
>>332210089
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>>332213058
>beign a native english speaker
i'm not but holy fuck you're bad
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>>332212764
I didn't feel the rhythm of the game pretty much until the end, when I just started kiting attacks and parrying because, honestly, I just wanted the game to be over.

And once I started doing that, the game was piss-easy. So it felt like "why was I playing any other way before?" And instead of frustrated, I was just bored now.

And near the end of the game enemies (like that hunter in Byrgenwerth) have so much HP that it feels a bit tedious as well.

I wish I could love BB like I love DeS and DaS, but it just wasn't fun.
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>>332212991
I disagree

I loved how organic the Snake Forest felt. How the village, the traps, the lake and the windmill were built right into the stage, and that it was actually big enough to get lost in.

It was so refreshing after all the linear hallways in DS2
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One time, I was playing Bloodborne and I decided to take a break.
I went on /v/
Now I can't enjoy Bloodborne because all I can think about as it loads is the shitposting.
Thanks /v/
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>>332212991
I have to agree with most of this. Nightmare of Mensis was upsettingly bad, like Dark Souls II throne of want bad. Although Maria was a cool fight despite being baby easy and Orphan of Kos was pretty gud during the last half
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This 2bh

It would be okay if only the whore could wear and get it but guess the pedolphile asian beta manlets love being gay and sucking dicks for western SJWs
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>>332213352

But it's funposting.
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>>332212248
Bossfights:

DaS>BB>=DaS2>DeS

I thought there was literally tons of shitty filler bossfights in bloodborne.

I didn't care for the NPC'ish fights like gehrman and maria, and other than that, Orphan, Ludwig and ebrietas stood out to me as the most interesting bosses in the game.

Ludwig was the only boss that matched or came close to ivory king, manus, kalameet, ornstein and smough, artorias, four kings and gwyn for me personally on a challenge, music, atmosphere, and memorability rating scale.
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>>332213145
>weapon upgrades
>chalice dungeons
???
What? Chalices have gems but base game gems are more than fine for anything the game has in store for you. Upgrade materials are from the base game too
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>>332210050
>>332210082
>>332210089
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>>332213298
You should try to replay it some time.
If and when it clicks, you can lead the gameplay into some dizzying heights. The DLC bosses especially bring this out really well.
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>>332213452
>I thought there was literally tons of shitty filler bossfights in bloodborne.
And DaS didn't?
lelwhat
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>>332210004
Lack of items. Most armor looks the same and the weapons aren't very varied either. The PVP and online system in general was also trash. They got it right in Dark Souls 1 so why are they trying to change things up?

Personally I never ran into any framerate issues or stuttering.
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>>332210169
>>332210739
>>332213230
>>332213515
You know it's coming for PC, right? The petition even reached its goal a while ago.
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It wasn't fun
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>>332213736
DS1 IS THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME IT'S FLAWLESS AND IT'S DEFINITELY N O T JUST NOSTALGIA
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>>332213775
...riiiight
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>>332213298
>>332213298

I thought their HP level was fine

did you not like do ANY chalice dungeons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38B2yACkzs

this is like NG+ orphan with only a level 98 character
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>>332213332
>>332212991


I feel like BB's level design never really dips as much as any of the previous games but I feel like boss quality is all over the fucking place. Some bosses just feel like utter shit and are too easy, and then bosses like Ludwig and Gehrman are fun and pose an actual threat even after you've learned their moveset and patterns.
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>>332213936
>only a level 98 character
I've replayed BB three times and never leveled a character past 80. What's the 'meta' level?
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Lack of choices in weapons.
Before the Taurus Demon I could get like 7 different weapons without even trying.
In BB, like 5 after a handful of bosses.
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>>332213352
>I don't have an opinion, I'm just a moron following what I read on the internet
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>>332214078
98 is the meta, since it's the highest you can be and still invade lvl 80s
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>>332213452
>I thought there was literally tons of shitty filler bossfights in bloodborne.
I liked that every single bossfight in BB had some changeup during the fight. I actually felt like they put time and effort into them. Even something like the witch of Hemlock had a fun little surprise to it.

>Logarius
>Ludwig
>Gerhman
>Maria
>Ebriates
>Wetnurse
>Orphan of Kos

The only boss that felt like a throwaway to me was the One Reborn
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>>332214078
98 to avoid 150 characters or 110 +

but its all really for HP

good blood gems are FAR more important
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>>332210004
Weapon distribution. My first playthrough will forever be marred by using only the Hunter's Axe and pistol because I didn't like or couldn't use any other weapon I found. Any subsequent playthrough is tarnished by the knowledge that I won't get the weapon I want until most of the game is already over and I'll just be using the Hunter's Axe/Threaded Cane the whole time again.
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>>332214109
>Before the Taurus Demon I could get like 7 different weapons without even trying.

all sharing 2 movesets with about 4 attacks each. in bloodborne every weapon has a unique moveset with 3x as many moves.
>muh weapon variety maymay xD
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Nothing really 'ruined' it, I thought it was a good game.

that said I won't be coming back to it. the lack of build variety or viable PvE options kills any replay value, I'd rather play Dark Souls.
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>stuttering

I've completed the game three times and I've never had it stutter. Sounds like an issue only you have or you're a dumb troll.
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>>332214238
you can get all the DLC weapons after beating te first boss, can't you?
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>>332214238
the axe is the best weapon anyways

spin2win
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No reason to use other weapons other than the one you start with.
Having to farm blood vials if you suck.
No good or memorable bosses outside of Logarius or Gehrman to a lesser extent.
Too short.
The fact that I have to pay 20 more freedom dollars to expand or correct this list.
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>>332214432
doesn't really work well on players

why would only do pve content?
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>>332210004
>muh immershun
>muh frames
>realy wanted to love

Hahaha, you're a fucking moron.
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>>332210004
>tfw you find out that moon is a UFO
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>>332214274
>2 handing the weapon
>1 handing the weapon

>compact mode
>trick mode

every weapon in DaS had two movesets, dumbass
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>Shitposting: the thread
Eh well, shitposting aside, it wasn't ruined for me, in fact I loved it.

However, I have 3 main issues. FPS drops. They weren't terrible, but they still existed. Loading times, even after the patch, are kinda crap. And finally, the god awful chalice dungeons. At least they're optional, so I only did them once.
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>>332214187
The Witch of Hemwick was super fucking easy, Cleric Beast literally never gets a chance to do anything, Micolash is cool but also dies in three hits, Moon Presence might as well not even be a boss, Celestial Emissary is trash, Rom is easy and only takes time to kill because trash mobs keep you from being aggressive if a game about aggression, One Reborn for obvious reasons, and some people dislike Amelia for being a giant hit sponge but I thought it was alright.
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>>332210004
The obvious technical issues, and that I felt that I could just button mash my way through most bosses. Strongest part of the game is definitely the beginning up to blood starved beast, then it shits the bed up until nightmare of mensis, which is fantastic.

I still liked it quite a lot but it didn't feel as refined as DeS or DaS.
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>>332214274
>whip
>axe
>zwei
>dagger
>sword
>katana
>polearm

you can get a lot of different shit before the Taurus Demon

and let's not forget about Pyromancy, Sorcery, and Miracles, because fucking no one uses Bloodborne's retarded magic system.
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>>332214401
You need to beat Vicar Amelia to get into the DLC, which is about a third of the game.

But since the DLC is so much harder than anything else, if you can beat the DLC, you can beat the game at that point and there's not that much of a reason to get a particular weapon. Even then, most of the weapons are pretty deep into the DLC as it is.
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>>332214630
>Micolash is cool
No. It takes forever to get to his second form, in which he can 1 hit you very easily, adding 20 more minutes of playtime
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>>332214624
I liked chalice dungeons

even more so when you curse em and get powerful as shit Blood gems


my HMS TERRIFIES people
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>>332210004
no builds
i don't know why /v/ loves it so much, it's a casual piece of shit compared to das or even des
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>>332214378
I mean, I'm not a memer who is going to say the game runs at sub 25 constantly but BB does dip quite often and if you're used to playing games at a solid 30 you should notice it happening. As far as stuttering is concerned I've never had any.
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That is what happens when a Company makes a Low end gaming closed PC and forces developers to make games exclusively for it.
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>>332214505
What? It works just fine, it has a great moveset. You don't spam the spin attack against a human, that's retarded.
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>>332214769
>mfw I got Augur of Ebrietas and it was pointless shit
>mfw I used the quickening bone without knowing it used bullets, and had to do Gehrman without them
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>>332214757
>nightmare of mensis, which is fantastic
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>>332214802
>You need to beat Vicar Amelia to get into the DLC, which is about a third of the game.
thats an exaggeration. You can beat her in like half an hour
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>>332214859
I hated that shit. Going through the dungeons to get the best gems was fucking retarded, I didn't even bother.

That said, I have a pending HMS build so I will have to go to them in a new character. God save me I don't know if I can play through them again.
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>>332214964
The Augur of Ebrietas is the only really universally good tool, at least post-patch. It was basically the replacement gun.
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>>332214814
Yo bruh, I like Micolash from a design standpoint first and foremost. I'm blinded by the fact that his second form was cool and I didn't just fucking murder him instantly like other people until my second play through.
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>>332214940
I ment the spin

but Pole axe is deceptively fast

loses out to faster SHWING like BoM
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chalice dungeons were pretty awful
then there's the healing system
there's the having to go back and forth from hunters dream to repair, travel, reset enemies, level up, etc
there's the lack of rewarding items found, and the emphasis on having to buy shit from the messengers
the bloated health bars on bosses
the shitty bosses like micolash, rom, witches of hemwick, one reborn, shadows, celestial emissary, living failures, and most of the chalice dungeon bosses
the mediocre bosses like blood starved beast, cleric beast, vicaramelia, logarius, amygdala, wet nurse, moon presence, laurence and the rest of the chalice dungeon bosses
the long winding foresty areas
nightmare frontier and mensis were pretty terribad
the dlc areas being disappointing
the pointless and boring armour sets
the lack of any real point of using different guns than evelyn for solo play

It might just be me as well, but for majority of bosses, I didn't really enjoy the music as much as the other souls games, there were a few stand out tracks like ludwig and ebrietas though.

this is all my opinion
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>>332210004
The aesthetic of it, I'm just not into that Victorian fedora tipping shit and it got grating seeing the same exact shit over and over that I already didn't want to see in the first place, same for weapons, clothes, and enemy types.
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>>332214613
bloodborne has transforming moves which can be comboed plus L2 attacks for 2 handing and charged R2s

and the fact that most transforms are a much more radical change than simply 2 handing the weapon. DS1 movesets are trash
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>>332214993
>dat vertical design
>dat atmosphere
>all the secrets and detours

Maybe we enjoy different things about Souls level design
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>>332214993
I take it you didn't like that part?
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>>332215038
what they arent hard

bosses are just pushovers
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>>332214994
And you can beat the game in 90 minutes, what's your point? That's the entire day phase.
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>>332215150
he got rekt by local invaders maybe?
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>>332215137
cool, 3 new moves

what happened to 3x as many?
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>>332215170
No, they're not hard. It's just the most boring thing I've done in a Souls game. Shit, I'd rather replay vanilla DaS2 than those fucking dungeons.
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>>332213587
I just played it this past month so it's pretty fresh in my mind, and now that I'm in NG+ I don't really want to play through the whole game again.

I really wish Souls games would like, ask you first about NG+, y'know?

>>332213936
>did you not like do ANY chalice dungeons?
No. I wasn't enjoying the game enough to bother, and from what I hear they aren't that enjoyable anyway
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>>332215116
>there's the lack of rewarding items found, and the emphasis on having to buy shit from the messengers

Holy shit this. Skipping areas and going straight to the boss was the best strategy in the game since you barely missed anything
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>>332215201
>you can beat the game in 90 minutes
>Check play time
>4 hours
>Just beat Witches and then died to cannon fucker in the woods

Jeez, I must be a shitter.
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>>332215116
Chalice Dungeons were 50/50
The healing system was alright
Hunters Dream is fucking dog shit and empty, but pretty.
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This is was my first game i've ever played since i don't know 10 years and 30 fps just felt horrible

No; i'm not a PC mustard race moron, my PC is even fucking garbage thats why I bought a PS4
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>>332215290
ah, so you haven't played it
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>>332215312
you know you could just speed run em right?

they dont chase you forever and rally system makes it easy dealing with groups
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>Victorian
>Lovecraftian
Oh look, the two easiest ways to kill all interest in a game for me
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>>332210004
what's up with the sun?
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>>332215460

I let lovecraft slide but victorian? Get that shit out of here it's why the fashion is so shitty
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>>332215439
Eh I guess. How long does it take to speed run to the defiled dungeon? That's the one with the best gems, right?
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>>332210004
At first the having to play retarded to win against bosses ruined it for me.
Then when I got used to it, it became my favorite game.
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>>332215327
Gehrman does mention its the end of the hunt though.
But yeah, I guess it could be communicated better.
>>332215290
backsteps have unique moves and not just sprint attacks
sprint attacks have 2 variations
R2s can be charged and have multiple hits in them
sideways and backwards dashes have unique attacks
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>>332215116
This about sums it up the many problems this game had.
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>>332214814
You chase him for like 15 seconds until he goes into a room, then lay into him with almost no resistence until he leaves, and in you're in the second phase. How long it takes you to get to the second locked room fight is solely dependent on whether or not you are inept at navigating the environment, and once you're in the room, you can still attack him without issue, he only uses a call beyond if you give him space, which you never need to do.
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>>332215574
yep

you can always retry the same one if you got the code, there is are list on the /vg/ thread

once you've ran them through once, you can run them pretty quickly beelining

it takes me about an hour per run
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>>332215624
We should all just let it go and go full retard.

That way we could all be happy.
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>>332215116
I agree with plenty of that, anon.

Having to go BACK to the dream to travel to another area was annoying as shit. I wouldn't mind if the loading time was 2-3 seconds, but god damn they are long.
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>>332215542
Lovecraftian themes don't work for games built around 'surmounting difficult odds.'

Didn't work for Darkest Dungeon, doesn't work here. Only worked for Chrono Trigger, but that wasn't true Lovecraft because you could win.

Victorian just looks dumb in a fantasy context. Unless it's ACTUALLY England during the ACTUAL Victoria's rule, it's just gimmicky bullshit.
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>>332210082
>>332210089

XDD EPIC PC MEMEEEEE

funny because literally no one gives a shit about bloodborne

really

only neogaf
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>>332214613
Every CLASS of weapon had two movesets. A single weapon would receive one or two unique moves at most.
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>>332215640
>But yeah, I guess it could be communicated better.
I mean, I want something like inFAMOUS or Kingdom Hearts where you can end the game, and then reload the save where it places you before the end of the game.

I don't want to have the game sitting around not beaten until I bother to clear the rest of the game up. I want to be able to say I beat Bloodborne, and then go back and do the stuff I missed if I ever wanted to.
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Is this the board we've created? You can't say a single valid criticism of Bloodborne without being called some ass ravaged PC player that's never even touched it?
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>>332215149
It's completely linear. There are no detours, unless you count the brainfucker bridge (btw that jump out of the elevator killed me more times than any boss in the entire game, someone tell From to stop putting platforming bits in their games). There's no new enemies except for big spider that gets stuck on the door, and metal dwarf people.

It's a fucking dream world, it could've been as weird as they wanted, they could've created literally anything and the best they could come up with was a boring black castle full of enemies from earlier in the game.
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>>332215932
Yup
>>332215906
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>>332215748
It's with a new character though, can I use codes for the defiled dungeon like that or do I have to go through the story ones all over again?

And thanks, I'll drop by /vg/ later.
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>>332214505
Because PVP in these games is kind of shitty? Invasions are only fun when it's an actual surprise invasion of somebody playing the game, people who try to set up duels are subhuman, play a game with a bit more combat depth if that's what you want to do.
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>>332210004
>Frame pacing ruined it for me

Boy just kills yourself already
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>>332210004
you don't know what frame pacing is, you don't know what it looks like and if not for autists on gaf posting about it you never would've associated it with bloodborne
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>>332215931
Why would you not want to do the optional content before completing the game?
The fuck kind of sense does skipping them make?
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>>332216013
>they could've created literally anything and the best they could come up with was a boring black castle full of enemies from earlier in the game.

This is spot on.

The dream areas could've been the best areas of any souls game yet.

Instead they created a bunch of generic looking shit and they are the worst areas of Bloodborne.
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>>332213775
Petitions don't mean shit. From & Sony have a fucking binding contract for that title for at least a few years.
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>>332216118
yep they're the same with every character

>>332216126
I like it, it doesnt need to be overly complex like fighting games, its simple enough to enjoy

why do you think /v/ loves smash?
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>>332215932
/v/ has been infested with sonyggers banned from neofag for a while now.
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>>332215932
There are plenty of posts with critics, and others agreeing, not once being called pkeks.
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>>332211983
Jesus, is this all PC has to offer? Holy fucking shit how depressing.
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>>332216165
Maybe because I have a huge fucking backlog and sometimes I don't enjoy a game enough to 100% it before moving onto the next one.

Maybe sometimes I just want to finish it.

Counter question, why wouldn't you want the player to have that freedom? What kind of sense does that make?

Hell, this is something that's been in games since Mario 64 and Spyro, if not earlier. Why can't Souls do it?
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>>332213775
Just in time for Dark Souls 3 to come out and all of the PS4 users have stopped playing.
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>>332210004
>great aesthetics and graphics ruined by 30fps, minuscule draw distance, hilariously terrible ragdolls, lack of lips moving when characters talk, and that stupid filter on everything that looks like someone put Vaseline on the screen

>parrying is inconsistent and too risky against most enemies

>input delay on roll/dodge because idiot devs can't figure out how to put sprint on a different button

>enemy lock-on is broken and will disengage for stupid reasons, like on visceral attacks or if the enemy dashes

>most trick weapons have one form that's vastly superior to the other one

>enemy design is neat at first but gets old quickly as you encounter the 30th variation on 'mangy werewolf'

>consumable items are usually worthless because of the terrible inconsistent aiming even on locked-on enemies

>combat gets boring after about an hour

>the "plot" is a pile of dogshit created by a pretentious cunt who thinks that vagueness equals artistic depth

>fanboys are obnoxious cunts who worship anything from shits out and forces their shit memes on the rest of us

Absolute garbage, I gave it a 2/10. I even opened up a few threads on here a while back asking if the game gets good, and questioning certain mechanics, stupid fanboys couldn't do anything except spout their epin maymays.
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>>332216509
>Counter question, why wouldn't you want the player to have that freedom? What kind of sense does that make?
I don't know.
Thats the way souls games have always been, and DaS2 is the only exception because I guess its the only one where it fits the lore

I don't have a problem with it at all.
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>>332216719
You forgot the dogshit camera that kills you more than the enemies and bosses
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>>332210004
Playing too much and too often. I have the patterns memorized to the decimal.
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>>332215149
Are you fucking high? The enemy AI in the area constantly shits the bed and gets stuck, the area is almost completely linear with dead end branches and the atmosphere is completely wasted because the world is a dream, it should have been far more dream like or nightmarish. Fucking DSIII final area has a better looking theme than Mensis
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Nothing ruined Bloodborne. It is one of the greatest games ever made, will be remembered as the game of this decade, and go down in history as a classic Masterpiece. Feels good to experience it first hand with my PS4.

Maybe next time pc-cucks.
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>>332216165
In the case of Bloodborne's DLC, I don't like that it's so much harder than the base game that no matter when you do it, when you get back to the main game, be it for the final stretch or even just to do the final boss(es), they're going to be a huge step down compared to Ludwig and Orphan. Gehrman is always cool, but he isn't very challenging. It's anti-climactic.

There's also missing out on optional things you didn't know about. On my first character, I got every weapon besides the Rosmarinus and Beast Claws. Claws doesn't matter because chalice progress carries over to NG+ and stays at the same level, but if I want to get the cosmic eye watcher badge that gets me the Rosmarinus so I have every weapon, which is something I'd like, I have to play pretty much to the end of the game again on NG+.
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>>332216719
well over half of this list is blatantly wrong and outdated, not even shitposting.
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>>332215116
What's wrong with the healing, really?
Even the mediocre bosses are better than most of the good bosses in the other Souls games.
Mensis is great, Nightmare Frontier is okay.
DLC areas were good, I don't see how you could have a problem with them.
I don't understand the complaint about armor
You only use Evelyn if you have high bloodtinge, otherwise it's objectively worse than the hunter's pistol.
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>>332216719
I'm pretty sure I've seen you post in these threads before and you've gotten trashed every time.
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>>332214152
And what's significant about lvl 80s? Is that just where people stop to avoid the level 100 meta?
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>buying a console for one game

kek
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>>332217163
Blood Vials are a weird half-step back from Estus toward Grass. Estus always restored when you rested or died, but Blood Vials don't, which means if you come up on a rough patch and run low, you need to farm for more, like you did grass. You can't carry 99 of various types like you could grass, so that's good at least, but in turn, vials are a little less common. I think they should have reduced the number of vials you can carry and had them replenish themselves like Estus, and if they really wanted to keep their healing system unique, boost the effects of rallying so that there's more of a focus on counterattacking to restore your health. If they did that, they could probably get away with reducing the number of vials you can carry even more.
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>>332216769
I know it's always been that way but it's always bothered me. There isn't really a lore reason for it to happen, and it's just kind of a frustrating design aspect for people who don't want to 100% the first playthrough, or missed things anyway.

Ratchet & Clank does this thing where when yoi beat the game, you can choose to teleport to befire the final boss or start a new game in Challenge Mode right there.

Souls should do that.
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Imagine if they put as much effort into every area as they did into Central Yharnam.
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>>332216934
>Fucking DSIII final area has a better looking theme than Mensis

if you mean pic related that's not in the game
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>>332217737
They would have, if they had time to finish the game.

BB like DaS1 was rushed out the door.
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Lack of variety. Bad performance. Chromatic abberation. Bad PVP.

Not to say it ruined it. I enjoyed it for 1 playthrough but I have no desire to replay it. Dark Souls 1 I immediately jumped into NG+ and ran through it like 4 times in a row,
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What ruins bloodborne is me wondering where the musket army is? Where are they?
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>>332217903
grazie dottore
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>>332217894
where's your proof?
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>>332217669
But it's typically very apparent you're about to face the final boss. Literally WHAT is the difference between waiting to defeat the final boss and defeating him first then 100%ing? Besides you being a nitpicking neckbeard.
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>>332218460
>Literally WHAT is the difference between waiting to defeat the final boss and defeating him first then 100%ing?
Beating the game.
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>>332218283
The drop in quality half way through the game?

Also the people who worked on the guide like agermanspy said the DLC was supposed to part of the main game.
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>>332218813
I said besides you being a nitpicking neckbeard, Anon. What is an actual reason this is a problem?
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>>332219263
How is that nitpicking? I want to finish the game.

Maybe I want to save the other content for later, but I don'T wanr the game looming over me like "you haven't finished me yet, what's wrong with you?"

I'm not a NEET anymore, I have a lot of games to play and not as much time to play them. Who wants to leave a game unfinished like that?
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>>332218889
So where is this proof? "The drop in quality half way through the game" is entirely subjective.
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