I've been getting more into JRPGs lately and I want to buy one today. What would you recommend for the PS4 or 3DS?
Anyone? I was thinking about Dragon Quest Heroes or Tales of Zestiria
>>332205074
Do you want an RPG made in Japan or a game with turn based combat?
DQ Heroes is a musou game so I feel like I need to ask.
>>332205074
DQH is alright ARPG, people say it's musou but it's pretty much only that through the fact that there are lots of enemies. Other than that it bears little to no similarities to musou games.
Zestiria is one of the worst Tales games.
>>332205180
I'm fine with any game with significant RPG elements. I enjoy turn based and real time combat but I'm not a big fan of one hit taking out dozens of paper enemies.
>>332204084
Also, just buy Cyber Sleuth. It's great. (But the online is shit)
>>332204084
PS4 has nothing right now.
For 3ds any Atlus published game (Shin Megami Tensei, Etrian Odyssey, Stella Glow), Fire Emblem Awakening, Fire Emblem Fates, Bravely Default, Bravely Second and Rune Factory 4.
But the DS library is better.
>>332204084
Also Atelier Sophie (in your picture) + Nights of Azure are out soon.
Odin Sphere and SO5 in the summer.
>>332205395
Then don't go for DQHeroes.
God though, I'm not sure for those two consoles. If you're willing to go a gen back DQ IV for DS is a solid starting point for the DQ series, which has all the JRPG goodness you can get.
For just those though, I hear Bravely Default is fun. I couldn't get into the setting myself so I dunno. Etrian Odyssey games are p fun. Run Factory 4 is a fuckin great game but I can't seem to remember if it actually had levels or if you just upgraded your gear. I think it has levels and shit so that's a solid choice.
PS4 I have no idea. I'd advise you to just expand your system preferences though if you want good shit.
>>332205558
Patch when?
>>332205074
Zestiria has great characters, but the gameplay is seriously lacking.
>>332205837
Yeah I'm saving up for a PC so I can expand my library significantly. I really want to play Xenoblade Chronicles X but I don't want to buy a dying console for one game.
>>332205629
I tried playing Conception II but I found it to be frustratingly bland. How's the story in Stella Glow and which SMT would you recommend?
3DS wait until DQ8. Personally I love DQ7 more but it's best to play one or two Dragon Quest games before diving into DQ7. And are you looking for older JRPG or newer because I can list really great older ones that honestly they don't really make much anymore.
>>332206142
If by great characters you just mean those two I agree. If you mean anyone but those yeah no.
>>332205924
What patch?
>>332206145
>Yeah I'm saving up for a PC so I can expand my library significantly.
On the Japanese games front? Don't. Unless you're into emulation (which wouldn't cost you that much I guess but a considerable amount still)
As much as people proclaim mustard race for big library you're just mostly stuck playing games from ages ago.
>>332206145
I'm sure you could emulate some older JRPGs, you don't need a super computer for that.
>>332204084
3DS has Devil Survivor 1 and 2, FE:Awakening and Fates, Rune Factory 3 and 4, Bravely Default 1 and 2, Xenoblade Chronicles, and the list goes on and on
It's has a fantastic JRPG catalog
>>332206145
Oh yeah Conception 2 is ass I completely forgot it even existed.
Story is pretty good in Stella Glow though the first half drags a bit.
Any SMT except Soul Hackers. It's dated and it has a bad translation. Can't go wrong with SMT4 or Devil Surivior Overclocked or Break Record.
>>332206482
>>332206497
So what platforms would be good for jrpgs?
>>332206441
Thinking about this one too.
Anybody play Omega Quintet?
>>332206932
>Anybody play Omega Quintet?
Yes. It's good but the Platinum will drive you insane
>>332206257
You're right, I guess I should have just said that it has two great characters. But they really are excellent.
>>332206932
Compile Heart games are shit don't even bother.
>>332206932
DS has a lot of solid titles, but the off the top of my head I know SNES and PS1 have some good ones. With a decent enough PC you could probably emulate everything you wanted to play.
I'm more of a fan of 2D RPGs though so I've stayed in the past when it comes to what RPGs I play. I'm sure newer systems have some good games.
>>332206932
>So what platforms would be good for jrpgs?
That depends on what you view as good, really. A lot of the old JRPGs from generations past are really dated and can feel boring to play.
PS2 JRPGs are mostly pretty playable to this day though along with NDS titles.
PS4 might not have much yet but more is coming because that's the only platform that matters to Japs. PS3 had -decent- selection too, it's just that the costs are getting higher and as such not that many find it worth it to make them when they're so niche.
>>332206932
>Platform
Honestly nearly all consoles has at least one great JRPG. But since you already own a 3DS look at 3DS JRPG and DS JRPG (which has a ton of them and some fucking amazing).
>>332207121
I do agree those two were amazing. Just saying that those two really make or break the game because everything else is either horrible or just not interesting.
>>332204084
Get a PC for emulation so you can play literally dozens of S class RPGs with high resolution and mods. You'll soon be able to even emulate the 3DS.
The PS4 has a couple of upcoming games but they won't last long of course.
>>332204084
7th Dragon
SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked and SMT Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker
Stella Glow and the FE games are mediocre srpgs.
>>332207714
> dozens of S class RPGs with high resolution and mods.
>Posts Zestiria
Nice try.
I'm pretty sure I should play Earthbound at some point too.
>>332208254
>alishafags
Nice try.
How is pic related?
>>332208589
>strawman
Nice try
>>332204084
>What would you recommend for the PS4 or 3DS?
Neptunia VII. It's actually good.
>>332208254
I was clearly talking about emulation.
>>332208661
very slow battle... gets kinda boring due to how you can't fast forward the battle stuff.
>>332209012
There really aren't that many that great JRPGs in existence.Why did you mention mods then?
>>332208993
Is Omega Quintet better? I'm not just talking fan service but I'm talking fan service.
What's /v/'s thoughts on Tales of Zestiria? Repetitive gameplay? Story quality?
>>332209245
ROM hacks are mods.
>>332209457
>Is Omega Quintet better? I'm not just talking fan service but I'm talking fan service.
it has some things that make it better and worse then V-II
>>332209245
I disagree, even with my selective taste I can name a dozen JRPGs you must play and there are dozens more that have fanbases.
Because there are mods for games? Zestiria and KH2 both have those 60fps patches and you can always add in shaders to make old games look better. FFT and FF7 both have mod communities and a lot of JRPGs have undubs or translation patches.
PC is the best platform for JRPGs, especially so when the PS3 and 360 emulators get a bit better.
>>332209457
/v/ mostly hates Zestiria but it's not that bad a game.
>>332204084
Xenoblade, Shin Megami Tensei or Persona are all fantastic.
But if you want a real JRPG experience, go for something from the 90s or early mid 2000s. They don't make many epic stories like they used to anymore.
>>332209081
So the gameplay is shit and the rest? mediocre?
>>332209871
>there are dozens more that have fanbases.
That doesn't really mean anything.
>KH2 both have those 60fps patches
Saix QTE is still impossible I presume.
Wouldn't really count patches like those as "mods" though. I guess >>332209702 is closer to the truth but I really only know about FE and Pokemon romhacks.
>PC is the best platform for JRPGs
Literally only if you emulate though otherwise it's the worst. And that's only because you get it all for 'free'.
People still jack off to games like Vagrant Story like it's the tightest shit when it's not that great at all especially nowadays.
> especially so when the PS3 and 360 emulators get a bit better.
Maybe somewhere next decade if ever for PS3 at least.
>>332210018
>Xenoblade
>Fantastic
You sure you want to bore people out of their minds?
>>332210192
Why are you so upset? There's no reason for these weak arguments, I'm giving OP the best answer for his question.
Vagrant Story is a great game and some last-gen games are being emulated just fine, like Disgaea which is relevant to this thread.
>>332210286
Xenoblade is a good game too.
OP here,
Thanks for all the advice guys, but I ended up buying Gone Home and the Heavy Rain/Beyond Two Souls bundle :^)
If you wanna play a good tales game don't play Zestiria.
Play good ones like Abyss and Vesperia.
>>332210018
>Xenoblade
It's so easy to find people who don't know what a good rpg is here nowadays.
>>332210496
> I'm giving OP the best answer for his question.
In your opinion, maybe. Even though I like JRPGs most of them have aged like shit.
>Vagrant Story is a great game
was*
Another example is Xenogears which was unfinished as fuck and people STILL jack off to it like it's the pinnacle of JRPGs.
Or Legend of Dragoon.
>Xenoblade is a good game too.
It must be the most boring and most overrated JRPG of this decade. Fuckhuge maps that take ages to walk through with shitty RNG fetchquests (some of which are timed and hard to obtain without guide gaming).
It's literally something I'd expect from a PS1 game, not something that was made in 2010.
>>332210872
fuck off. I was leaning toward Zestiria at first but the general consensus here seems to be that it's shit, so I might go with SMT.
So what's better Megadimension Neptunia VII or Omega Quintet?
>>332211221
What are some JRPGs you like?
>>332209871
>/v/ mostly hates Zestiria but it's not that bad a game.
It really is bad. Personally the only selling point is the "love" story with the two leads. They are the only characters really worth a damn. I hated everything else about the gameplay so I just turned it down to Easy just to see what would happen next.
>>332211367
Valkyrie profile 1 and 2
>>332211367Making few autists mad in DQ threads.
>>332209457
Zestiria is the worst Tales game in quite awhile. They take away the best character half way through the game. The "open world" is lame and adds nothing to the game except backtracking. The combat is toned down from Xillia and has a shitty camera angle.
>>332211523
Good choices.
>>332211671Are you who I think you are?
>>332211791
Maybe. For real though I think Shadow Hearts trilogy (ignoring Koudelka for this) is what a good JRPG should be.
Great characters, great ost, great combat system (even if it's a bit easy to exploit) and a nice world even if it's not overworld one.
The combat itself got better each installment too.
If you haven't played some of the older JRPG's yet, play the Suikoden series. You should be able to get the first two games on PSN. Suikoden II is one of the best-loved JRPGs of all time. The first game is a little meh, but the 2nd is great.
>>332212120
Koudelka was the best in the series though....
Here are some 3DS recommendations.
>Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
>Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
>Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
>Shin Megami Tensei 4
>Etrian Odyssey 4
>Etrian Odyssey Untold
>Etrian Odyssey Untold 2
>Devil Survivor: Overclocked
>Devil Survivor 2: Recorder Breaker
>Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
Hope this helps, OP!
If we are going to list JRPG from the PSX era I'm throwing Lunar 1 and 2 into the ring. While very simple games they are everything wonderful about JRPG.
>>332212120
Ah Shadow Hearts is pretty good too.
Those micro transactions in Bravely Default.. Made me kind of sad to think someone might have used it..
Anyway, I am now getting into turn based games. Just finished Bravely Default and had lots of fun.
I was thinking of getting Dragon Quest IV, Shin Megami Tensei IV and/or Bravely Second.
I also always wanted to play Radiant Historia but a lot of people told me it's boring.
Almost got SMT IV yesterday but then I saw it has DLC, I am not so sure about it now. I really hate having to buy DLC.
Okage Shadow King got put on PSN.
Fucking play Okage Shadow King.
>>332212634
Gameplaywise it's complete crap though. Proof of how internal conflicts fuck shit up.
>>332212715
You know I was pretty amazed at the PS2 save data image in SH2 when at the beginning it's Yuri & Karen and after you beat the game it's Yuri & Alice smooching.
Can't think of any other games that did something like that.
>>332210190
It's not shit, just really slow even with animations turned off.
How are:
Saint Seiya
Deception IV
FF Type-0 HD
FF X-X2 Remaster
Omega Quintet
Megadimension Neptunia VII
Akiba's Trip
The Witch and the Hundred Knight
and not an rpg but
Earth Defense Force 4.1?
>>332212869
Okage is a shit game though
>>332212915
It wasn't that bad could of improved but the grid combat was kind of fun. It wasn't infested with anime tropes like shadow hearts was though and didn't overstay it's welcome while having decent puzzles.
>>332213273
I think Saint Seiya is a fighter
>Omega Quintet
>Megadimension Neptunia VII
they are okay, the charm of Nep VII might be lost if you have not played Rebirth 3
>Akiba's Trip
more of an action game than anything
>>332211221
Games don't age and my 'opinion' in this case is fact. PC has the most JRPGs to play.
>>332213273
>The Witch and the Hundred Knight
Wouldn't personally support this because of NISA's fuckery. Fuck them for releasing a fixed version while not fixing the old game.
>>332213379
>It wasn't infested with anime tropes like shadow hearts was
I don't really mind that if it doesn't full on generic junk like Tales of.
>>332213075
There were a few PS2 games that did something like that.
IIRC MGS3 had a similar thing. They also occasionally changed when you went to delete them. I remember the simpsons hit and run turning into Blinky the three eyed fish
>>332213273
Not a single game worth shit in that entire list. Deception comes close though.
>>332213303
If u can read, and do it, it's a funny game.
If u are a retard who mashes X till dialogues finish, it's bad.
>>332213504
>Games don't age
You're joking, right?
>>332213650
Damn. /v/ is jaded as fuck, huh?
>>332213504
>Games don't age
>my 'opinion' in this case is fact
This is either average bait or severe autism
OP here. So...just stick to my 3DS? It seems like nobody can agree on which platform is best for jrpgs, or if good jrpgs are even common.
>>332214437
>or if good jrpgs are even common.
It's a matter of you being able to stand outdated mechanics and slow as fuck battles.
>OP here. So...just stick to my 3DS?
Like I said earlier, PS4 will get games in due time since it's the only thing that matters to jap 3rd party more or less.
>>332214437
It's up to you OP. Everyone has different standards of what's a good JRPG ir not.
>>332214437
PlayStation <#/name> is obviously the best platform.
>>332213991
Nah, he's just dumb.
>>332213991
>my 'opinion' in this case is fact
Prove me wrong. You can't.
>>332213782
They don't.
>>332214437
3DS is the best recent platform for new JRPGs, and it can play DS JRPGs too.
You can easily emulate SNES, PS1 and PS2 JRPGs on your computer.
>>332215121
>They don't.
Play a game that has progressed with gameplay, like Yakuza 0. Now play the first game. Or if you want to make it fair, Yakuza 3.
Yakuza 3 will feel and look like shit in comparison.
Or just play any damn game with mechanics that have become more polished over time. That's how they show their age.
>>332215360
I literally just did. Of course a lot of old games are worse than new games but they aren't wrose than they were. Ergo they haven't aged.
>>332215121
If you're speaking literally, then of course games age. Everything ages. That's how time works. So I take it you don't mean that.
As far as graphics, mechanics, HUDs, menu systems, combat/battle systems, and just overall design go, games sure as hell age. Some games are timeless, but RPGs are rarely so.
>>332215360
>Yakuza
Please, it's 龍が如く.
>>332215360
Games literally don't age, though. Aging implies that something is changing over time.
A game made 10 years ago is still the same exact game today.
Games don't age, your perception and taste ages.
>>332205074
Dairy Queen Hamburgers was one of the best games from last year. It's a Musou but succeeds at being a DQ game more than anything else. Also go for Bloodborne. As for 3DS, you've got more options.
>Etrian series
>Persona Q
>SMTIV
>Theatrhythm (more a rhythm game than an RPG but it does have leveling and abilities and shit)
>Devil Survivor
>Xenoblade
>Legend of Legacy
Take your pick, you can't go wrong.
Is last remnant any good?
>>332213782
What part of a game "ages"?
>>332215572
>>332215504
That's just arguing about semantics, though.
>>332215504
>Of course a lot of old games are worse than new games
That's the entire concept of media aging. By comparison with modern media, it looks different, mostly worse.
>>332215572
By your logic films, novels, and art don't age either?
>playing modern jrpgs
The only way to make JRPGs good is go emulate them so you can fast forward through grinding and backtracking.
>>332215880
Oh. That's a shame.
What about Neptunia.
>>332215876
>hating grinding
>>332215787
>>332215787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_4XDyJaNn8
Andy looks just like a real kid.
>>332215716
It's convulted and you most likely will end up looking at guides.
Not bad by any means though.
>>332215987
>What about Neptunia.
Fanservice junk. If that's your thing, go for it.
>>332215716
The world map music is godlike.
>>332215762
Not really, you're implying that an older game will somehow be clunkier than it was if you play it today. Games don't age because games are static. If you were to play Final Fantasy 1 today, it's the exact same game as it was in the 80s.
>>332215787
films, novels, and art won't age. Your perception changes over time as newer films, novels, and art outclasses them. Films, novels, and art will remain the exact same as they were.
To be aged would imply that it somehow changed compared to what it was previously. Something that is static cannot age.
>>332216025
>hating slower than slug pace grinding
Fixed that for you.
>>332215527
>digital information ages
>>332215762
>>332215787
New games are often times more 'aged' than old games so how does that work??
>>332216120
You're still arguing about statics.
They don't LITERALLY age but like you said, perception and shit changes over time which will make old games / movies / whatever feel completely dated (if that satisfies your autism).
>>332216245
>New games are often times more 'aged' than old games so how does that work??
I don't know since you made that up just now.
>>332215716
RNG, the game. You have almost no control over what happens in battle, it's all RNG. Also RNG leveling your units. OST is good though.
>>332206668
>Disliking Soul Hackers
Disgusting casual
>>332216369
Worse graphics, worse gameplay, less features/playtime.
Modern games are often worse than older games. So according to your batshit logic they're more aged.
>>332216580
>Worse graphics, worse gameplay, less features/playtime.
Whatever it is you're smoking you should quit it.
>>332216580
relative value is not absolute value.
I want a modern turn-based (not atb) JRPG for PC, PS3 or PS4. It should be somewhat classic in its approach. I like those long journeys.
I miss turn-based systems that didn't hurry you so you could have a snack while you played and just enjoy the game without having to be IN THE ZONE like you were playing some action game.
I've played:
FFX (one of my favs)
P3 and P4
Xenosaga
Paper Mario TTYD
Atelier anything
Pic related is the feeling I'm after.
>>332216574
It's not even a hard game.
>>332216971
Atelier series. Not particularly long but replay value and all that.
>>332217182
Did you even read my fucking post, kind anon?
>>332217182
Garbage
>>332217182
>>332217246
Shit, didn't notice you said Atelier.
Try Digimon Cyber Sleuth and Trails of Cold Steel.
>>332216971
Arc Rise Fantasia.
>>332216245
This is honestly just a pointless argument about semantics.
When people say a game, or any form of media, has aged, we mean that it seems different than it did when we first experienced it when we look at it from a modern perspective. We don't literally mean that the game has changed, because that's impossible. Nobody would even consider that because it's just ridiculous.
Language and communication work by people having a shared understanding of the intended meanings of words and phrases. Just like we don't take idioms literally, we understand that saying certain things have aged doesn't literally mean they have gotten older, or changed. I really don't want to insult, or make fun of you, but I do understand from people I'm close to that nuances in language such as these can be difficult to grasp for people on the spectrum. Still, it's these little things that are essential to understanding normal human communication.
>New games are often times more 'aged' than old games so how does that work??
If a game has features that are commonly found in older games, and most other games have moved on from, that game will almost certainly be criticized for having outdated mechanics.
Either that, or it can be intentional like a lot of retro games or films that pay homage to older genres.
On a side note, I really like how you added two question marks to show how angry this was making you. Maybe your next question can include an exclamation point to really drive the point home.
>>332216971
>>332204084
On the topic, what are good JRPG's that I could play on PC, including the emulatable consoles.
Already finished: Nocturne, Persona 3 and 4, Dragon Quest 8, Chrono Trigger/Cross.
>>332217486
>>332217367
>>332217292
Thank you dear anons
I'll take more recs if you have them
>>332217568
Thanks, I'll check it out.
>>332217373
I was just making fun of him for deflecting. All I came here to suggest to OP was to get a PC to play good games.
>you are this mad
Games don't age dude, get a grip.
>>332217486
>Relaxing while getting buttfucked by RNG that the series is full of
nice.
>>332217494
Shadow Hearts series.
>>332217708
>Games don't age dude, get a grip.
Stop being an autist.
>>332217494
Currently playing through
>Shadow Hearts
>Mana khemia
>Dragon Quest 4
>Wild Arms 3
Loving all of them
>>332217708
>Get PC to play games from the 90s
The power of....... PC?
>>332217610
Play a dragon quest game if you haven't already.
>>332217768
>He doesnt like getting games that go out of their way to kill you
>>332217902
Getting buttfucked by RNG is just so cheap and not fun at all.
>>332217792
Wild Arms 3 kicked my ass. Got maybe 20 hours in but never could beat it.
>>332217768
>Stop being an autist.
You first.
>>332217984
Then just play SMTIV FINAL on RPG mode.
>>332217494
Grandia 1.
Graphics may not hold up but it's got bucket loads of charm and a great battle system.
>>332218091
Nobody can honestly claim that games don't age.
>>332217494
If you want something like Chrono Trigger then emulate Radiant Historia. My favorite post-SNES 2D rpg.
