Reminder that this light hearted game still takes more actual skill than ''hardcur esports vidya xD'' Cunt Strike RNG Offensive
it's more fun too
>>332199972
I agree with the 2nd point, shame you had to put something true in a shitty bait post.
>>332199972
desu I only wanna play as the hot girls to hear their grunting as they're shot
Everything you just said is true, but you didn't have to say it like such a cocksucker. Go suck a hot one
I know this is LQ bait but
>Comparing apples to oranges
>>332199972
>1 month and 9 days until the Open Beta
Soon.
muh consistent art and character design
>>332200976
Smough skin for Reinhardt when?
>>332199972
Wait the hulk lesbian with pink hair still in the game? I thought we killed her.
>>332201108
nope, welcome to diversity
>>332201108
>We
Whom?
Also, nope. She's the female future Heavy from a Tribal group in bumfuck nowhere. She's fun, but ALL her skins look like absolute shit, except the green goth one, which is still bad.
>>332199972
apples and oranges
csgo takes more mechanical skill for the most part while ow takes more tactical skill and strategy to the point where it's outright frustrating in pubs
>>332199972
Reminder that it's still a game with relatively little depth in comparison to te "hardcur esports vidya xD" Cunt Strike RNG Offensives of the market.
Ask someone in closed beta anything
>>332199972
>takes more actual skill
>literally has skill for autoaim
I just wanna get my hands in Zenyatta hnnng
>>332201265
How's Junkrat in the current "meta?"
>>332201336
Pretty strong, his ultimate is equal to atleast one guaranteed kill if youre decent at dodging fire with it.
On a defensive team i'll deal top damage with him anyday easily, i do find it a bit too rewarding to just spam primary fire into some areas though.
His trap will fuck any mobility based hero easily and his shift bomb can be used in melee range with no issues, also you can use it to blow up that genji on your ass and hop away simultaneously.
>>332201092
Never knew how much I wanted this. Neat.
>>332201265
Is this game playable without a full stack? It doesn't seem so.
>>332203807
I'm forced to play without full stack since not many are in the closed beta, you can do ok with fewer people if you pick with synergy.
Pharah + mercy is good duo and reinhardt mercy soldier76 is our go-to tri.
Its playable without a full stack in the same sense mobas are, your team will be shit but you might be able to carry them.
>>332201336
>>332202037
Junkrat almost never sees any competitive play. Pharah is a better Junkrat.
>>332199972
No.
>>332201108
Half the people in those threads liked her outside of the tumblr hair.
>>332199972
Wow only 3 of the girls in that pic aren't deliberately ugly
What happened to good character design?
>skill
>20 tick
>>332200778
why can't you compare fruit tho
>>332201108
imagining thinking like this all the time
>>332200976
way i see it, they've put a bunch of video game tropes in one arena. it comes off as cheeky to me. maybe you can't into humor?
>>332199972
well that's not much of an accomplishment
>>332209930
neither was your birth
>>332200976
I bet you hate Smash too lmaoo
>>332205405
>76 bait is better junkrat
>useless dva cancelled immobilized ult is better junkrat
>scrub magnet with no survival, zero synergy, and the worst "mobility" function in the game is netter than junkrat
You're obviously baiting, but I am still mad.
>>332199972
Are they going to have an open beta for pre purchasers?
I know people are playing now but I'm not exactly sure how?
>>332205405
>Pharah
Completely useless without Mercy. But thanks for confirming that you're not in closed beta.
>>332209619
apples aren't real fruits
>>332210001
2/10 go back to middle school and get them to teach you the basics of making a smartass comeback
>>332210139
Hahahaha, what? Nigga you serious?
Pharah is better at zone denying, has way more vertical mobility, easier to hit enemies with, way better ult.
Junkrat is a fucking sitting duck against mobile heroes, flankers eat him up.
>>332210148
People are playing now cause they signed up for the closed beta, you will get into the "open" beta on may the 3rd if you pre-purchase: http://eu.battle.net/overwatch/en/blog/20055970
Overwatch will bomb, either dead on arrival or it will die within a month after release; Screencap this.
>>332201336
Junkrat has always been one of the strongest characters, especially on defense.
All of his abilities have multiple uses, his ult is solid without being too much of a crutch, and his regular fire is just hard enough to avoid that it both makes it a fantastic lane deterrent and somewhat guaranteed damage.
>>332210219
>120 damage long range rockets
>flying
>one of the best offensive ultimates
>useless on her own
Yeah, nah.
>>332210340
>Pharah is better at zone denying
No she isn't. Stop talking now you're only embarrassing yourself further.
IF CSGO is RNG based, why don't people get teams together to go win tournaments? Instead it's always the same 3-4 teams fighting for top place?
>>332210491
Rockets + knockback skill > inaccurate, easy to avoid granedes
>>332210476
Pharah is a sitting duck in the air and has shit defence.
>>332210476
>best offensive ultimates
LMAO
you're retarded as fuck, her ult is useless even if she gets it off. A half blind mei deals with her instantly.
>>332210536
Because RNG is slang for "I can't aim"
CS:GO actually requires teamwork, reflex, and coordination
Why am I not surprised /v/ hates that game, but loves the game with no ammo, killstreaks, and aimbot. You are all fucking casuals.
>>332210571
>inaccurate, easy to avoid granedes
Kek git gud fag. Pharah is the easiect hero to use. Maybe you should pracc quake nades before talking smack.
>>332210571
I told you to stop. You're embarrassing yourself. If you can't hit spam grenades, or put a trap/mine in tactical positions, you should just go back to playing a baby's game like BF4.
>>332210340
Thank you for confirming that was bait.
The sad thing is that people not in the beta will believe you and get crushed for dozens of games as defensive Pharah, thinking they are just doing it wrong.
Rip scrubs.
>>332210681
/v/ actually hates both but thanks for your silly attempts csgo fag
>>332210284
fuck off orangefag
>>332210597
And junkrat is a sitting duck against anyone who can outrange him. He's also much easier to deal with with flankers.
>>332210604
If she's supported by even 1 person she can be devastating during the ult. It has a much higher team wipe chance that the shitty tier, which is trash tier.
>>332210690
>>332210694
Try to hit a flying Pharah or a Widowmaker with your flimsy ass shit granedes scrubs.
>>332201237
POO
>>332210126
Overwatch is going to be what Smash is to fightan.
A disgrace to the genre with an inflated roster and no skill required, with thousands of plebs eating it up
>>332210681
>CS:GO actually requires teamwork, reflex, and coordination
>>332210813
but apples aren't fruits, just like pineapples and strawberries
Reminder that 1.6 and Source are garbage
DoA
>>332210869
>>And junkrat is a sitting duck against anyone who can outrange him. He's also much easier to deal with with flankers.
>junkrat
>outrange
wat am i reading. junkrat should never be in an exposed situation.
>>Try to hit a flying Pharah or a Widowmaker with your flimsy ass shit granedes scrubs.
LOL! HITTING PHARAH IS THE EASIEST SHIT EVER.
>>332210869
>If she's supported by even 1 person she can be devastating during the ult.
Which is why anon said she's useless without mercy. Pay attention.
>>332210790
>/v/ hates both
Lol, I see nothing but threads praising Overshit as the saviors of gaming, yet CS:GO threads are just shitposting smug anime and ebin bingo cards.
>>332210939
Really?
Try running into a fight and just firing off and see where that gets you.
>Blizzard games
>2016
ISHYGDDT
>>332210910
So extremely popular? Thanks senpai
>>332210869
>>If she's supported by even 1 person she can be devastating during the ult. It has a much higher team wipe chance that the shitty tier, which is trash tier.
That's what I fucking said in the beginning you retard. Pharah only has a spot because of Mercy. Jesus christ you haven't even played the game, have you? You've only watched streams.
>>332211132
>popular = good
Smashfags, everyone.
>>332211121
> I see nothing but threads praising Overshit as the saviors of gaming
So are you new here or just blind? Or maybe you're just a retarded csgo fanboy who only explicitly sees hate for the game he wasted money on?
>>332211128
Nah, Hearthstone is pretty good.
I wish Blizzard took what made that game good and incorporated>>332211227
>e
it into everything else
>>332211215
In no way did my comment imply popular = good
but thanks for your attempt
>>332199972
Progressive propaganda.
Tons of non-white men and stronk independent wymyn, but no visible proud white men except for that cowboy guy, and he's shoved to the side and doesn't take much space, he's not standing out in any way so to speak, he has no ''presence''.
Basically the idea is to ''empower'' non-whites and women.
>>332211023
>>332211151
Mercy is not the only person who can support her.
Besides Junkrat's ult utter garbage as I said. That was the original argument. Pharah's ult is the second best ult behind Reapers ult.
>>332210991
How do you kill Pharah's out of your range who are raining rockets on you anon? You don't need to be exposed, people can flank or fly and shoot. Having range limitations is the reason why he's not as good.
>>332201237
>csgo
>mechanical skill
L O L
CS has the lowest skill cap in the genre. It is a team strategy, risk management game.
>>332211351
Hopefully you can actually play the game when open beta hits LMAO
>>332211336
false flag
>>332211336
>Being this /pol/
What about torbjörn then m8?
>>332211227
>So are you new here or just blind?
Dude, you are the newfag.
I've seen nothing but positivety and hype for the game
But please, do explain whats wrong with CS:GO.
>>332211441
Already played it during the weekend beta. Why don't you refute me instead, anon?
>>332211320
>Hearthstone good
Please be bait. Please.
>>332211351
>>How do you kill Pharah's out of your range who are raining rockets on you anon?
You don't in the same way a Reaper doesn't either. Any smart player picks his fights knowingly. You don't go into a firefight, at whatever distance, and hope for the best.
>>332211434
>waaah how come I don't know how to use the guns
>wheres muh auto aim
>>332211121
Eh not really
For a long time, Overwatch was getting shit on for its tick rate and MOBA-like qualities.
>>332200212
>that gasp when they're low on health
>>332211562
Hearthstone is actually pretty fun though.
It requires some thought put into it, and the strategies you can come up with is great.
>>332211336
Torbjorn, soldier 76, Reinhardt and Mcree are all white males.
In any case fuck off. Who cares what they look like if the game is designed well. It's in 1st person.
Remove ability to change people in matches as well as adding a picking stage and we can talk.
>>332199972
What happened to Blizzard dudebros? I mean no one can take them seriously at this point, right? Selling card games and stillborns dota clones.
I've always thought that surely something broke inside of their leaders when they realized that fat knife collector made the game from their custom map. Feels sad desu
>>332211589
>crosshair directly over head
>misses due to RNG spread
That's all there is to it, really. It's a low skill strategical FPS. And even then that's generous considering how shallow the strategical depth is.
>>332211565
And that's exactly what I'm getting at. The character has a big weakness. His only use is to spam chokepoints. He's useless in offense. Pharah fits in all situations comfortably.
>>332211628
Yeah, but that quickly dissolved into
>who gives a shit about that minor stuff its F U N
>>332211757
I fit in Pharah in all situations comfortably if you know what I mean
>>332211757
>The character has a big weakness.
Like every other character? Gee, you don't say Sherlock.
>His only use is to spam chokepoints.
Like in Quake? Gee, who would've thought?
>He's useless in offense.
No.
>Pharah fits in all situations comfortably.
Nope.
This kid pushes like a FUCKING IDIOT dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4i51b8ZS-4&t=1m25s
>>332211741
>misses due to RNG spread
Do you know know what patterns are? Just because you suck at a game doesn't make it bad DSP
>>332199972
Open beta or bust.
>>332211925
In may
Is this going to be able to run on toasters?
>>332211741
Im not the one you're arguing with but the Webm looks more like a case of packet loss rather than RNG spread, the bullet hole is right behind where the Ts head was.
>>332211987
I love how the based mods can actually ban you for this shit now
>>332211974
Only if you preorder
>>332211913
Anon, this is what every argument about csgo here boils down to, and they're always too retarded to know the first 2-3 shots hit the center of the crosshairs and how easy it is to correct for spray. They don't even play the game just leave it alone
![Scarmiglione-309808-Impossibe_to_Overwatch_this_Booty[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/cxfF0FH.png "Scarmiglione-309808-Impossibe_to_Overwatch_this_Booty[1].png")
>>332211834
I might have an idea about what you mean.
>>332211886
>Like every other character? Gee, you don't say Sherlock.
He has a bigger problem than most, a problem Pharah doesn't have.
>Like in Quake? Gee, who would've thought?
Again, Pharah can do that too. And other things!
Junkrat is one dimensional.
>No.
Yes
>Nope.
Yeah
>>332212063
No, pre-ordering gives you a few days extra but there's an open beta for everyone
>>332212009
Depends on how toastery, i will say it is surprisingly well optimized for a game in beta.
>>332212159
Oh damn, I was humored for a second people actually bought this shit
>>332199972
Just like HotS overthrew LoL and Dota2, right?
>>332212375
>lol/dota
>viewbots/eceleb cocksucking/muh esports
>hots
>just a fun game
>>332212375
more like hearthstone because there's nothing there to compete with it
>>332212596
>HotS
>Fun
>>332212596
>hots
>>just a fun game
Nigger, even for a MOBA HotS fails.
You need a little bit more to justify a game then "I'm HAAAAVING FUUUN"
>>332212375
>SF4 above 5
F L O P
>>332212687
yes it is, unlike your 50 min shitfests.
>>332212741
what do you mean "fails"? Its a solid game that gets better and better with every patch, it has a decent community too.
>>332211679
Hearthstone is a degenerate, unbalanced random number generator with a babby level of 'this card likes this card' that gets sold under the painfully embarrassing guise of 'muh esports'.
Fuck Blizzard, fuck their games, and fuck what they've done to the industry.
>>332199972
It also features even blander and more nonsensical characters designs than CS:GO, which is quite the achievement.
>>332212970
Yeah, a decent 10x smaller community that loves to suck that Blizzard cock.
I wouldn't want to be locked in a room with these people.
I love how more and more are getting redpilled about how much of a jew company Blizzard has become.
>>332212970
Keep shilling anon
Remember to buy Illidan™ Stormrage© for only $29.99! (Or spend 4,000 Blizzard Fun Coins on him, you earn 4 per game won)
>>332212784
Yeah, NCR having its USF4 finals does not have anything to do with this.
Not
at
all
Nigga, fuck you and your bait
>light hearted game
>fps
wut
>>332213128
all i see is nonsense hatred, where is my "fails" definition?
>>332213172
lol is a more expensive and time consuming game in terms of unlocking every hero
>>332213089
>degenerate
lmao
>unbalanced
cards being a little bit less trash than other cards != unbalanced
>RNG
Hardly any RNG for cards that, you know, aren't useless
>>332212970
>solid game
No its not. Its shittier and more casual than LoL.
>better and better with every patch
Holy viral marketing, Batman!
>>332213210
he means its good to fap too
>>332213210
Yes, TF2 is a lighthearted game
>>332213460
I don't give a shit what you have to say because Blizzard games are garbage, but post more Mei
>>332213647
This is all I have
>>332201108
I really don't want to play her because of her design, but her ultimate is a game changer. Maybe when she gets a really good skin it'll be more bearable.
>>332213447
It was supposed to dethrone LoL and Dota2.
It didn't.
Not only that, but barely anyone still plays it.
It's shallow and casual.
It's like a facebook game, from a company that made one of the best games ever.
If that's not a failure, I don't know what is.
And nobody cares you think it's >fun
The size of the playerbase speaks for itself.
too bad nobody can fucking play it because they're overly stingy with the beta.
Of course I get two fucking invites to Heroes of the Storm, a literal kusoge, and not this which looks decent.
guess I'll just wait for Paragon.
>>332213852
>game changer
>in a casualized cashgrab that was literally only made because Blizzard didn't have a franchise that could be an FPS realistically
>>332213447
Hots is babby-tier casual though, and the fact that all heroes arent available to all players shows that they are prioritizing moneymaking over a fair experience for all players.
L2 Dota m8
>>332213828
why is she so perfect
>>332214220
Because you're a filthy degenerate.
>>332213460
>shittier
how
>more casual
its low skill floor yes, but same skill cap and higher emphasis on team cooperation, how is that a bad thing again?
>viral marketing
just a comparison to dota which gets worse and worse with every patch since ti4.
>>332214335
There is nothing wrong with loving gooks
>>332213852
Idk i find her ultimate sub-par, like sure getting someone stuck in it is strong as hell but Dva reaper pharah junkrat tracer genji winston and widowmaker can all escape it which makes me think it needs a buff.
how good is soldier 76?
>>332214463
one of the best and most viable in the game along with Mercy and Winston
I actually play and really like Overwatch, but to say it takes more skill than something like CSGO is stupid. Just the fact characters like Pharah and Junkrat exist makes the game less skill based.
>>332214448
True. There is definitely something wrong with fat, low self-esteem gooks though.
>>332214463
Very good if you can trace players with your crosshair and stay out of short distance encounters
>>332214562
Ah i was just skeptical on the whole "jack of all trades" role what exactly makes him viable why use him over something like pharah or reaper?
>>332214172
im 5k mmr in dota, if you compare pure gameplay disregarding item learning, laning phase ( denies, pulls, zoning ), obsolete mechanics like damage types, hots actually takes more skill in terms of executing moves and combos and working as a team, especially in terms of apm, its kinda like lol in that regard but lol's laning phase is even more retarded than dota, both games are archaic pieces of shit that are being held afloat only by "muh esports" and their retarded playerbases not wanting to learn something else because they played the same game for the past 10 years and invested too much time into it, all the same as that piece of shit cstrike.
>>332215050
Those characters all fill different roles.
Soldier 76 has a really accurate hitscan weapon, and area healing. Good damage, good survivability etc.
Pharah is versatile, good synergy with Mercy, good for spamming chokepoints or killing far away opponents.
Reaper is a very survivable flanker. High damage, low range.
>>332210910
Except Smash is popular as fuck
and aside from that having played the beta I can say that Overwatch isn't nearly as casual as Smash
>>332215296
hots actually takes more skill in terms of executing moves and combos and working as a team, especially in terms of apm
Oh god my sides, you cant be serious hots is extremely forgiving cause its more difficult to shut down heroes before they can drop ultimates due to the low damage of all skills in HOTS.
And if youre implying APM matters much in a moba then i don't know what to say about you.
>obsolete mechanics like damage types
>Pure damage
>Obsolete
laughingomniknight.jpg
I feel like Soldier 76 is the strongest hero in the game when nobody has any ultimate.
But when ultimates are taken into account, he sucks dick. Like wow, you automatically aim at people. I already have good aim FFS.
>more difficult to shut down heroes
>low damage of all skills
you didnt even play the game, did you?
>>332215983
Isn't McCree better than Soldier 76?
>>332215983
>you don't even have to aim
Nice "team based FPS" Blizzard.
>>332216252
I played til rank 1 then i got bored, yeah it is more difficult to shut heroes down you dont have any disable items like scythe of vyse or orchid.
Low damage of all skills in comparison to dota, kael thas does shit damage compared to a Lina or Zeus.
Is everyone on /v/ incapable of speaking in normal complete thoughts anymore?
>>332215983
He's high on the tier list. But hardly the best hero.
>>332217115
ndsgjnsdh
>>332214672
It's not. Nearly every character in Overwatch has a higher skill ceiling than CSGO overall.
>>332214712
Huh, I guess children really do grow up just like their parents.
I'm going to play D.Va and no one can stop me.
>>332214672
>>Just the fact characters like Pharah and Junkrat exist makes the game less skill based.
Someones never played or watched competitive Quake.
>>332217339
Welcome to the new 'esports' generation that grew up on CS:Source and unironically think CS is the epitome of skill when it couldn't be further from the truth.
>>332217339
Please don't liken this trash to Quake.
>>332217339
>>332217496
Seriously. What the hell is that anon on about? Not Torbjorn, not Winston, not Mercy, Pharah and Junkrat make the game less skill involved...
Sounds like someone can't handle zone denying.
>>332217597
Shut up fag. Quake is dead. It had its run, but it's dead. Overwatch has rockets, grenades and players and that's good enough for me. Reflex is also dead as fuck.
>>332217496
CS:GO players really are some of the worst in the world.
>>332210463
No, because you're going to be hilariously wrong.
>>332215050
Every single offense hero fills diferent niches.
76 and McCree are good objective capture/holding heroes, with 76 having good DPS with some healing and McCree being (arguably) the best 1v1 hero in the game.
Pharah is a good pusher/area denial, she can help your team through some chokepoints (Kings Row Point A comes to mind)
Tracer, Genji and Reaper are flankers with some differences.
Tracer is great for pushing payloads and hitting the enemy team's back.
Reaper is really strong up-close, so I usually run him on defense since I can take some time to go after the supports while shit goes down on the points.
Genji is really good for picking up stragglers and breaking up entrenched enemies with his bullshit reflect and dash
>There's still Anti-Overwatchs hitposters on /v/ even though time and time again they've been BTFO
The only problems the game has left to deal with are lack of modding/mapping and dedicated servers.
>>332217936
What's good to play for a person new to ability-based FPS but has played Counter-Strike 1.6 religiously?
>>332218076
Don't forget the wonky netcode and ranked mode.
>>332218076
And, you know, actually release the game.
>>332218076
>there's still blizzard shills on /v/ even though time and time again they've been BTFO by themselves
I can already smell the critical mass that shitposting will reach when open beta hits.
>>332211445
Doesn't count, because he screams more: ''I'm a fantasy character'' rather than ''I'm a white man''. You have to remember most people are not as intelligent as the average person on 4chan, they are superficial and registe things at face value.
>>332218120
For 1.6 players?
76 might be up your alley, even though he plays like a watered down Colt
However, Pharah and McCree are good for Quake players so you might want to give them a shot
>>332218170
>wonky netcode
Explain.
So far, I had no issues with online play, even though I range from 11ms to 190ms on matches
>>332211718
Reinhart is as far as the normies are concerned, a ''robot'', and Torbjorn, as far as the normies are concerned, a fantasy dwarf.
>>332218170
You mean 20 tick which was a mistake made by a redditor that was bad at math?
You mean the Ranked mode that's already confirmed?
How many of you in this thread work for Blizzard? Be honest.
>>332219021
I fucking wish I did. I would be se loaded with blizzdrone money.
>>332219021
I'm Metzen's wife daughter, I'm shilling Blizzard so I can buy my own coke with my own money and be an independent woman
>>332218792
The lag compensation is done so that it can accomodate people with 100-200 ping without problems. So you get shot around corners, blink as Tracer then die only to find out you never blinked in the killcam, etc. etc.
It's basically impossible to do reaction time evades.
>>332218932
The server sends 60 packets but your client receives 20 packets a second. So, tickrate is unknown. The problem comes from lag compensation most likely though.
They confirmed that they're working on the ranked mode. It might not be available on launch though.
>>332213852
>love playing Zarya, only thing I dont like is the pink hair
>she gets a bunch of recolor skins
>none change her hair color
>she gets a legendary skin
>it looks like it was designed by shadman
>later she gets a new legendary skin
>its shadman skin: electric toothpaste boogaloo recolor
>>332217854
>not screencapping it so you laugh at it later
Do you even /v/?
>>332219546
the fiction police SJWs are a disease that plagues this world and they need to be cleansed
>game relies on "waifus" and "sex fanservice"
Nope. There's only trash here.
First thing Blizz has done to piss me off as an OW fan: Patched out the symmetra/Mercy masturbation gag on the new map is less than a day.
>>332221376
what is it with people and horses
horses can't impregnate cute girls, there's no point
>>332221308
It doesn't though. Thanks for posting.
>>332221581
>what is Tracer
>what is DVA
>what is Widowmaker
If a game has characters blatantly made for sex appeal, I instantly discard it as such.
>>332221504
I think the appeal is the disproportion.
>>332199972
Who needs skill when you can just play Tracer?
>Just got back after asking way up there about Junkrat
>All that shitposting
Junkrat has some of the fastest vertical and horizontal movement in the game, what the fuck.
>Drop mine
>Detonate as you jump past it
>Go sailing like a burning eagle through the sky and are now half-way across the map
>Or stand on mine
>Now you're stuck in the fucked up roof geometry
>>332221669
Fuck off tumblr.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/85n6r4G.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>332221669
I know right? I only like ugly women in my game, familia.
>>332221669
>If a game has characters blatantly made for sex appeal, I instantly discard it as such.
Why were they blatantly made for sex appeal? Can you articulate? The only one who's vaguely sexual is Widowmaker and that's in-line with her role as a femme fatale.
Is any game with female character in it that fans then sexualize unplayable to you? Street Fighter? Zelda? DotA? Animal Crossing? Seriously faggot? You know you're being a faggot for the sake of being a faggot.
>>332211336
>>332218762
>>332218859
Do you bitch and moan about Street Fighter having non-whites and women, too?
>>332221827
Not controlled movement though. And you can't spam grenades while hovering like Pharah.
>>332221669
All female characters that aren't >>332222005
are "blatantly made for sex appeal?"
Fuck off.
When did /v/ become BlizzardGAF?
>>332221882
>>332222005
Excuse me guys, but I'm actually over the age of 18, so I desire gameplay over sex appeal. NO game has ever given me both. It usually sacrifices one for the either, usually by throwing all the budget at jiggle physics. Disgusting.
>>332222018
>Why were they blatantly made for sex appeal?
Wasting time and money on jiggle physics, like I said. Also, cringe-worthy voice acting meant to be "le sexy", and those stupid animated shorts that have no value whatsoever other than showing off the character's asses, or trying to be spectacle over substance.
>Is any game with female character in it that fans then sexualize unplayable to you?
If the developer isn't spending money on sex fanservice, then I can ignore it. But once they throw my hard earned cash, that I paid for the game, into breast physics and trying to "sex up" the character roster, then I throw the game away.
>You know you're being a faggot for the sake of being a faggot.
Or I just want more gameplay and less sex fanservice and other non-gameplay gimmicks.
>>332222107
>All female characters that aren't>>332222005
are "blatantly made for sex appeal?"
If you put money designing a character and it doesn't help the GAMEPLAY, then yes it's stupid sex appeal and it doesn't belong. Funny you mention that particular post, because Dragon Age: Inquisition failed as a game because of sex appeal. They spent so much money designing strong independent womyn and le gay men with rippling muscles, that they forgot to make the gameplay fun.they forgot to optimize it. They forgot the basics that even amateur indie devs wouldn't forget.
That game is a shining example of why I hate garbage "fanservice" in games.
>>332222104
>Not controlled movement
I had exactly 2 days with him last year, the movement is a tad wacky, but it's definitely controlled if you understand 3D positioning.
>can't spam grenades while hovering
There's nowhere in the game where being a few feet higher would make a difference and spammability. Pharah also can't spam grenades, she spams rockets, which are unaffected by Gravity, something that makes an amazing difference with Junkrat
>London Map on Offense
>Sit comfortably behind the bus hailing grenades over the walls
>Junkrat can do corner tricks, where Pharah cannot
>If you're in a tight spot, shit a mine and go flying at a rate that nobody can keep up with you
They both have their pros and cons, but the skill ceiling for Junkrat is MUCH higher than the Egyptian.
>>332213828
>Name tag
>No name
>>332222563
>h cannot
>>If you're in a tight spot, shit a mine and go flying at a rate that nobody can keep up with you
>They both have their pros and cons, but the skill ceiling for Junkrat is MUCH higher than the Egyptian.
Possible. There's an argument to be made for sure.
But I think Pharah is better in most cases. Junkrat is kinda niche.
>>332199972
No, this game looks literally fucking retarded. i can't wait for it to bomb.
>>332211336
>this entire post
What's it like having a bigger victim complex than the SJWs you stalk on Twitter?
>>332222849
And to be honest, I can't change your opinion unless you were to dedicate equal time in the Closed/Open Beta depending on your access to both characters and learn them both thoroughly. So let's just leave it at that.
Plus,
>Being higher up makes you an easier target, since you'll be peeking over the walls instead of just lobbing shots over them
>>332222537
>Wasting time and money on jiggle physics, like I said. Also, cringe-worthy voice acting meant to be "le sexy", and those stupid animated shorts that have no value whatsoever other than showing off the character's asses, or trying to be spectacle over substance.
You're not even talking about overwatch at this point.
>If you put money designing a character and it doesn't help the GAMEPLAY, then yes it's stupid sex appeal and it doesn't belong. Funny you mention that particular post, because Dragon Age: Inquisition failed as a game because of sex appeal. They spent so much money designing strong independent womyn and le gay men with rippling muscles, that they forgot to make the gameplay fun.they forgot to optimize it. They forgot the basics that even amateur indie devs wouldn't forget.
Are you retarded? Realize it's not an either-or right? You also realize things like separate budgets exist, right? You think a sexy design costs more than a """normal""" design? Fuck you're being retarded.
>>332223029
That's true, need to have some more hands on experience.
>Being higher up makes you an easier target, since you'll be peeking over the walls instead of just lobbing shots over them
Well, she has the option to that. She can play on ground perfectly well too. But it's great for flanking and throwing your opponents by suddenly dropping in air to make them miss, etc...
Having the option to fly is certainly better than not having it. I don't think you do it enough justice.
>TFW /got in/, had fun, and pre-ordered
See y'all in /owg/ a few months from now.
>>332223220
Eh, I gave Pharah next to no time, I'll probably try her a bit more, but I can't lie, i enjoyed Demoman in TF2 MUCH more than Soldier. And I just fell in love with Junkrat, cause his kit is perfect for me.
>>332223356
Ah, that makes sense. For me Soldier was a much funner class. Rocket jumping was my jam.
Soldiers were somewhat better, competitively, than Demomen in TF2 I think though, no?
>>332222537
I fell you senpaitachi, yeah. Literally the first trailer of OW with tracer running around gave me this weaboe le sexy vibe. It just feels tasteless.
It doesn't necessarily make a game unplayable tho.
>>332223079
>You're not even talking about overwatch at this point.
Really? Look at the short "Recall". What does it do for the gameplay? What does it tell me about the important aspects of the game? Nothing. They spent millions on CGI and special effects, and I know nothing more about the gameplay, the important part of the product. It instead focused on garbage like a background story, as if video games need a complex story to be fun. "Muh story" is just as bad as "muh sex and tits and fanservice". It all detracts from a good game. If I was from tumblr, I'd fully defend games being more "Cinematic". but clearly I don't.
>You think a sexy design costs more than a """normal""" design?
Jiggle physics and breasts cost millions to render, and millions of polygons to make. So yes, it does cost more than a generally normal body design.
>>332223562
Actually, yes. But pills were also MUCH easier to dodge in TF2 cause they glowed bright fucking red/blue, you'd have to be blind not to see them. Junk's explosives are really dim and blend in somewhat.
Either way, gotta go. See you on the battlefront, Pharanon.
>>332223831
See ya, Junkranon.
>>332223562
At the moment you run both soldier and demo in competitive teams, but the soldier is arguably more core.
>>332224175
Yeah, I knew they're the two top most viable characters and thought the soldier was slightly better. Seems I wasn't wrong, thanks for the comment.
If I bought this game I'd only buy it on the PS4
Diablo 3 just proves that Blizzard are competent console developers in denial
>>332224363
>I knew they're the two top most viable characters
I think Scouts are.
>>332224638
Oh yeah, forgot about scouts. Do you know the main comp that teams run?
>>332200976
I wonder which dumbfuck thought he was hilarious when making this. It's painfully obvious most of the cast covers generic tropes.
>>332224731
2 Scouts, 2 Soldiers, 1 Demoman, 1 Medic.
But Demos are limited to 1 per team because having two slows the game down too much.
I think Medics are also limited.
>>332224978
Gotcha, thanks.
>>332223821
>Really? Look at the short "Recall". What does it do for the gameplay? What does it tell me about the important aspects of the game? Nothing. They spent millions on CGI and special effects, and I know nothing more about the gameplay, the important part of the product. It instead focused on garbage like a background story, as if video games need a complex story to be fun. "Muh story" is just as bad as "muh sex and tits and fanservice". It all detracts from a good game. If I was from tumblr, I'd fully defend games being more "Cinematic". but clearly I don't..
It establishes the universe and the reasons for the game to take place. Blizzard's cinematic department is also entirely separate from the department developing OW. You Also realize it's a set up for the tie-in animated series, right? Are you mad it's not a gameplay trailer or something? Are companies not allowed to have cutscenes or anything like them anymore? They have tons of in-depth gameplay trailers and footage too, so what's the problem? Are you too retarded to find it?
>Jiggle physics and breasts cost millions to render, and millions of polygons to make. So yes, it does cost more than a generally normal body design.
Okay so you're trolling or tremendously stupid. Thanks for posting.
>>332217793
D44M has rockets and grenades too.
So as I said, please don't liken this trash to Quake.
>>332225252
>It establishes the universe and the reasons for the game to take place.
They couldn't do this through gameplay, or demonstration of gameplay? Look at early trailers for TF2. I knew everything I needed to know from what they showed, because every video they put out to a point was a demonstration of the gameplay, the roles each character played, and how they interacted. And it all impacted the gameplay. I didn't need a sob story about the scout being raped by his father, or the heavy suffering from leukemia, or the engineer battling chronic depression. That didn't make the game better. What did improve the experience was telling me that "engineer builds buildings". Or "scout runs fast, he's good at intel collection." Or how about "the spy is good at espionage and surprise".
>Are companies not allowed to have cutscenes or anything like them anymore?
No, they're not. Not unless the gameplay is finely polished first. And as we've seen, it's nowhere near that. So no sex or cinematics or tie in series allowed until they polish it.
>They have tons of in-depth gameplay trailers and footage too, so what's the problem?
Tons? There's barely a shred that tells anything important. It's usually some meme crap that doesn't fully display their abilities. Or they're too busy trying to show us their "personality". Like Zarya or DVA. "oh they're strong independent womyn! dont mess with them!" Who cares? Put it in the garbage if you can't completely devote to gameplay demonstration.
>Okay so you're trolling or tremendously stupid.
Am I wrong? if I was, you could cite why, instead of a meme response like what you had posted.
>>332199972
It's a fun game. Too bad it's inevitably going to be ruined by shitheads who take video games too seriously.
>>332225984
>Look at early trailers for TF2
You mean the Meet the Videos? They're literally the same as Recall.
>>332225984
You're just shitposting, stop.
>>332226584
No. I'm referring to the TRAILERS. Long before the "Meet the videos" were even a thing. This was back before they even finalized the artstyle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_c3iQImXZg
Notice how we don't need garbage emotional backstory? What we get instead is a demonstration of every class's abilities, their roles in the game, their interactions with each other class, and even a general idea of how they play.
Tell me that anything from Overwatch even comes close to being this informative about the actual gameplay, without relying on memes or non-gameplay junk. OH, and I'd like to mention that it's all made using in-game footage. No pre-rendered cinematics whatsoever.
But for some reason gameplay is considered bad at Blizzard, so we need more story and cutscenes and cinematics and non-gameplay to attract the kids.
>>332219021
If only.
>>332227068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pfu5NVoMg0&index=5&list=PLF8B2A7FF99767FF2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEYp1RTvllM&index=6&list=PLF8B2A7FF99767FF2
Literally these two do the exact same thing in the video you provided: introduce characters, show their abilities and roles in a quick and concise manner, and each get only 1 or 2 lines characterization telling you their personality.
>>332227068
You mean the first gameplay trailer?
https://youtu.be/dushZybUYnM
What did they try to achieve by setting the price so high? Making sure that slavs and brazilians won't play the game? They succeeded
>>332228037
>>332228156
>50 seconds into the first video
>there's still no gameplay, they're all just standing around
>BUT WE'RE GONNA SHOW OFF OUR VOICE ACTORS AND SEXY POLYGONS AND LIGHTING ENGINE
See, that's what I mean. If you took that long just to show basic gameplay, then your game is trash. Even the trailer I showed had immediate in-game footage with no voice acting or finalized graphics. Those need to come AFTER the gameplay is shown.
>>332227068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYC44YPb_5k
Okay here's an OW trailer from the day it was announced.
>>332228410
And another issue I have.
>they finally show the gameplay
>stops to show a pre-rendered cinematic experience showing Tracer being "le cute tomboy" while halting all gameplay just to show her off
That is the worst """""""gameplay""""""" trailer i have ever seen. It literally suffers from every pitfall that I mentioned earlier.
>>332228319
>40 bucks
>high
>>332228384
>>332228570
Are you actually mentally retarded?
>>332228731
Where would you get that idea? Did I imply that I was gonna buy Overwatch? My apologies.
>>332199972
>Blizzdrones this defensive already.
>>332228570
It's a trailer that played the day it was announced at their own convention. They were introducing all the characters. The fact they showed any gameplay at all is kind of astonishing. Your entire argument is made moot by the character introduction videos too.
I honestly hope you're trolling and not actually retarded.
>>332228625
minimum monthly wage here is $60 or so
>>332228818
That sounds like a yes.
>>332228953
where the FUCK do you live?
>Cunt Strike RNG Offensive
See anons, saying things like this instead of actual names is how you guarantee replies.
Case and point: This thread
>>332199972
>blizzard
>anything but absolute trash
How will these ultra Jews fuck you out of your money with this game?
>>332228916
>They were introducing all the characters.
Their first mistake. Characters are not as important as showing the gameplay first. Keep the voice acting and cringe-worthy cutesy characters out of the trailer until we have an idea of how it plays.
In hindsight, did TF2's really early trailers rely on cinematics and voice actors? Or did they just pick up some stock sounds while actually focusing on the gameplay? The latter seems like the best case.
And on another note, the fact that they've announced a spinoff animated series before the game has even come out reminds me an awful lot of Mighty Number 9, where the gameplay was just a secondary concern while they focused on being "epic" and "cinematic" and all that junk. Just so you know.
>>332229108
Ukraine
it only sounds ridiculous when converted to dollars because the local currency went to shit, so it mostly affects vidya and PC parts, not daily life stuff like rent, clothes or food.
>>332228625
Jesus, now I feel even more ripped off with it being $89 here.
>>332229223
You need to learn the difference between facts and options.
>>332229369
Whether they are or not, it would be the equivalent of Valve releasing hats and cosmetics and shorts like "Expiration Date" before TF2 was even released. The game would get no balance patches or refining because they want it to be "super wacky" and "cinematic".
If blizzard only waited until after the game was refined with updates and patches and optimization, I wouldn't mind this so much. But their priorities are all over the place.
>>332229369
I was confused, I guess it's a bunch of shorts accompanied by comics, just like TF2. I swear I heard about a TV series too though.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/11/07/blizzcon-2015-overwatch-animated-shorts-announced
>>332229508
Take a look at the fucking patch notes and get back to us. You literally don't know what you're talking about.
>>332229638
>Take a look at the fucking patch notes
The ones that have done nothing to balance the game? Only proves my point.
>>332199972
>blizzdrones yet again fall for a scam
>proving yet again, that they will eat literally whatever blizzard shits out and thank them for it
post sexy webms
>>332229717
>The ones that have done nothing to balance the game?
>>332228384
Just let it be. These retards lost all logic and do every mental gymnastics to apologise their purchase. Everyone knows that only horny 14yo will play this game and creeps.
