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>kills RTS genre with Warcraft 3
>kills MMO genre with World of Warcraft
>kills any love for the Diablo franchise
prove me wrong/what's next?
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>>332188158
>no mention whatsoever of LotV's catastrophic excuse for a story
come on anon
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>kills genres by making the biggest game in them

?
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>>332188238
>LotV
After the bomb that was Starcraft 2 no one gives a fuck about those dumb expansions. Episodic content is retarded.
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>>332188158
They created the genres that they killed and every game you are saying is dead is still literally number 1 to this day. self BTFO thread?
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>>332188275
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>kills RTS genre with WC3

Anon, you had better back that up with something because it sounds like you're talking out of your ass
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>>332188454
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>>332188454
>number 1
Well the number 1 MMO (WoW) is only filled with 12 million bots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHeSHT2ZDnU
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>>332188275
>>332188454
>being popular automatically means they're good
wew lad
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>>332188535
>Warcraft 3 was the focal point of where RTS stopped being about macro in any real capacity
>Warcraft 3 spawned ASSFAGGOTS
Warcraft 3 killed RTS genre
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Killed RTS genre? Starcraft is the most iconic RTS that ever existed.
Killed MMO genre? WoW is the most iconic MMORPG that ever existed.

Killed love for Diablo? Agree. Diablo 3 was a fucking piece of shit and gives me cancer.

What's next? Nothing. Blizzard will make games that are above average. They will fail here and there, but mostly we will continue to love and enjoy blizzards games.

Case closed.
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>>332188719
>Starcraft
Starcraft was before Warcraft 3
>most iconic MMO
maybe if you're a normie casual who never played another MMO
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>>332188672
>muh assfaggots
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>>332188672

No, no it definitely didn't. Micro and Macro play have existed since the Cossacks series. Blitzkrieg can be played either way, Sins of a Solar Empire can be played either way, Age of Empires could be played either way. All that WC3 was is another fantasy RTs, it didn't shift the genre one way or the other.
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>>332189140

Try and prove it. There's nothing WC3 did that was crazy revolutionary or different and it definitely didn't kill macro play so are you gonna try and defend your point or are you going to post reaction images?

Warcraft 3 is a great game but you're making a lot of really narrow minded assumptions about the genre
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>>332189347
>Upkeep
>MOBA-style Heroes
>Levelling
>Items
>Grinding Mobs
>Punishes you for macro
>Influenced the direction of RTS games such as Dawn of War and Company of Heroes. Further boxing in the definition of what an RTS game is.
RTS = ded
Thanks Blizzard
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>>332188828
I'd agree with him, Starcraft set a standard that everyone followed and couldn't compete

WC3 did some damage too, Generals, BFME2 and DoW were excellent games but WC3 overshadowed them so much that they died fairly quickly

there is barely any point in making a new RTS with the goal of competitive play because no one will give a fuck about them and even if one started rising in popularity Blizzard would shut it down with WC4 or SC3
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>>332189641

>Get xp from mobs
Every RTS with base building
>Moba style heroes
Cossacks had this
>punishes you for macro play
Any good opponent does, AI doesn't punish you for shit
>Influenced later games
Every RTS has been influenced by the Dune game. Did dune kill the genre?

Those features aren't unique to WC3 but good try
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>>332188828

>maybe if you're a normie casual who never played another MMO

You could be the most elite-uber-gamer ever (and i'm sure you are lol) this doesn't change ANYTHING about the fact that WoW is in fact the most iconic MMORP that ever existed up to this point. There simply wasn't anything else that came even close to having the same impact.
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>>332189917
>Every RTS with base building
every RTS has units that level up from grinding neutral map mobs?
>Cossacks
who cares?
>Any good opponent does, AI doesn't punish you for shit
what?
>Every RTS has been influenced by the Dune game. Did dune kill the genre?
are you retarded?
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>>332189641

>upkeep
Every RTS with military units
>Items
Alright fair enough Total War doesn't let your general down a potion

>further boxing ln the definition of an RTS
Real time strategy; any strategy happening in real time. Wtf are you talking about
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>>332190064
>>WoW killed the MMO genre
>You could be the most elite-uber-gamer ever (and i'm sure you are lol) this doesn't change ANYTHING about the fact that WoW is in fact the most iconic MMORP that ever existed up to this point. There simply wasn't anything else that came even close to having the same impact.
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Reminder faggots on this board will try and shill Overshit despite the fact its a "team based game" where you just get kills to earn an aimbot or wallhack
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>>332190115
I'm not even a part of this argument, but you are faggot.
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>>332188627
I never said that you mong
>>332188483
>posts macros
>calls people reddit
gud1
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>>332188158
Crash the video game industry
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>>332190064
>popular = good
Fucking apply yourself
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>>332188158
Well, WoW's success destroyed what Blizzard was.
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>>332190202
>Every RTS with military units
I take it you never played Warcraft 3? I'm not talking about unity capacity buildings.
>sperging out about RTS
Take a look at ACTUAL RELEASED GAMES and tell me what you see.
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>>332189917
that's every blizzard game, I remember hating WoW on release because it was just DAOC and EQ combined and then casualized then noticed during Wrath that most of the big features they advertise were taken directly from WAR

they definitely popularize the features even if none of the them are exactly original
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>>332188275

>CoD / BF / Halo didn't kill the FPS genre

wew lad
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They're trying to kill the Dota-like and TF2-like genres right now but are failing hard. After their laughable attempt to sue Valve you'd think they'd learn to leave the REAL game developers alone.
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>>332190389
I'd blame Half Life, CS and BF modders if anybody
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>>332190257
I don't really get why this is an issue desu thats just the style of game it is.
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>>332190115

Not every but most. Unit upkeep, unit experience levels, hero units are not new
They've been around since before the second Warcraft buddy. Try playing a bunch of RTS's before you make a bunch of assumptions about them
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>>332188158
>Diablo
>implying diablo 3 is still bad

i wish /v/ stopped living in a meme world
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>>332190549
>no really guys, this patch fixes EVERYTHING
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>>332190549
people who like diablo 3 are the people who played self found mostly solo play in D2
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>>332190610
The game is completely different from it's release incarnation.
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>>332188158
What a memetastic post.
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>>332190524
yet those earlier examples didn't kill the genre, so they get a pass.
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>>332190447
>laughable attempt to sue Valve
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>all these autist fags who take a criticism of WC3 like it's a personal attack on their mother

I loved WC3. In fact I'm replaying it for the 20th time, but OP is correct. There hasn't been a solid RTS since WC3 debuted. SC2 was the final nail in the coffin.

Also, upkeep is fucking annoying. Limiting the size of your army is one thing (99 is a bullshit cap) but also making a bigger army stagnate your gold income was fucking retarded.
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>>332190349

I see a huge list that gets a lot shorter after 2010. I don't think its Warcraft's fault people don't play the genre as much anymore, but the genre isn't dead. Games are still being released
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>>332188158
>WC2- Chess in RTS form
>WC3- Hurr durr RNG asymmetrical bullshit with unwanted RPG elements, only remembered for custom games

>Diablo/Diablo2- Atmospheric dungeon crawling at it's finest. Love child of Blizzard North.
>Lord of Destruction- Blizzjews ruin game with synergies/rune words, becomes a generic spreadsheet simulator and skinner box that all future ARPG's are modeled after

It's amazing how long they've been a cancer, and casual newfiends on /v/ actually think this shit started with WoW.
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>>332190474
The games style is to shill r34 on /v/ to get people to notice it. No one talks about the actual game, it's all just advertising.

It's like if tf2 was somehow worse.
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>>332190467
This
Counter strike fucked everything up
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>/v/ hates WC3 now

Oh man, glad to see the hate spread. We are now retroactively hating Blizzard.

mmm baby this is good shit. Never fucking change /v/.
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>>332190817
I wasn't sold till i got in the beta but I think there will be some decent talk about the game as it launches for real.

And shitposting and posting lewd art, just the usual. That is just how /v/ is now.
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>>332190794
>only remembered for custom games
kek
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>>332190794
this is prime evil bait
carry on you shining diamond carry on
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>>332188158
>>kills RTS genre with Warcraft 3
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>>332190794
>implying ogre magi weren't horribly OP in WC2
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>>332190549

>Buy D3, was garbage
>Years laters
>Oy goyim, they fixed everything, Blizz made Diablo great again
>You have to pay extra 40$ (or whatever the price) for that, though
>Even then the playerbase is inferior to that of a f2p small indie company's game that constantly improves and adds content to their game

I'd even give it a try, but paying extra to see if i'm being meme'd on or not ? Nope.
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>>332190794
Blizzard formula has ALWAYS been the same since they were known as S&S

>Take something already popular
>Make it super casual friendly with flashy UI
>Shove it full of pop culture references that make idiots feel smart for getting them
>Spend 90% of budget on aggressive marketing and eye-catching cinematic scenes that were just created for deceptive commercials

When someone says they have fond memories of Vanilla/TBC I automatically know they're some 90's kid who never played Everquest or Ultima.
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>>332191038
but it's true

ASSFAGGOTS
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>>332190963
You're not old enough to know this, but I never liked the unit limits, the anti-macro, DOTA, the slow pace, or basically any part of WC3. People just went nutty over it cause MUH 3D and MUH GAME EDITOR.

I was busy playing CnC/DoW/not RTS games.
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>I don't like x
>that means it's dead

?
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>>332191185
>You're not old enough to know this, but I never liked

You're right Jimmy, nobody is old enough to understand your autism.
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>/v/ finally taking off the nostalgia goggles and realizing Silicon & Synapse/Chaos Studios/Blizzard have always been shit

What a time to be alive.
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>>332191448
>I don't refute what people say, I just call them names like the 6 year old I am.

Good job bro. Classic 4chins! Upboat!
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>>332188610
>posting this shit like it means something
>honorbuddy was banned almost a year ago now

L O L
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>>332191373
>people who were toddlers when Warcraft 3 came out are adults now
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>>332191586
>refuting opinions

Remove yourself.
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>>332191149
Why would you give a fuck about the playerbase when there are no trade and no pvp? It's a literal single player game, even more than Grim dawn and Torchlight.
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>>332191149
especially now that Torchlight 2 and Grim Dawn are out too.
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WHO /RISE OF NATIONS/ HERE?
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>>332191718
Sucks that POE has the right ideas but the game itself is so fucking boring
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>>332191174
Totally Heartstone.
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>>332191661
>implying those were opinions and not how the game works.

Okay. Really I'm the one who's lost here though, replying to a flaming retard like you.
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>>332191796
everyone rise of nations, it's impossible to truly dislike that game
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>>332188158
Kill cinema with Warcraft movie maybe?
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>>332191935
>Kill cinema with Warcraft movie maybe?
we can only hope
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>>332191935
The movie is already going to be full of MUH REFUGEE pandering, so they're killing western society with their cuckism.

That said, the movie is going to flop harder than Super Mario Bros.
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>>332191892
No you idiot the fact that you said "I never liked..." and tried to pass it off as objective problems with the game and though that you disliking something is an argument that can be refuted is autistic.

What do you want me to do? Say that I liked those things to "refute" your opinions?
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>>332191935
James Cameron and Michael Bay killed cinema already
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>>332188158
What kind of dumfuck would continue to buy and play Activision games in this day and age?
Starcraft 2 flopped, Diablo 3 flopped, WoW is dead thanks to complete negligence, HotS is literally who tier, and Overwatch is DoA now since TF2 is getting ranked now.

They've systematically killed every genre they entered thanks to being great at one point and setting the standard, and then plunging right into shit and taking all the sheep along with them, leaving people to believe "this is what the genre should be".

So thanks Activision, thanks for letting your competitors to stoop to your level.
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>>332192090
I wonder how considering how Orcs are portrayed.
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>>332192090
Heres a thought. Would you/anyone rather they had made a Starcraft movie?
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>>332192237
>being great at one point
>Aggressively marketing and spending so much that other devs get intimidated out of the genre makes a game great

Ya blew it. The only good games Blizzard ever 'produced' were done by in-house slave studios that have long since broken free of their shackles.
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>>332192284
We already have Starship Troopers.
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>>332188158
>kills card games with Heartsone
>kills FPS with Overwatch
you asked for this OP
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>>332192237
>10th best selling game of all time
>30 million+ sales
>flop
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>>332192237
the bad part is the games didn't flop

and no blizzard games will flop, even legion will sell a shit ton more than they put in to make it because
>muh blizzard
so it's just there soaking up potential sales of decent RTS and MMO newcomers that will never come out because no one wants to innovate because there is no chance of winning
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>>332188158
you forgot:
>killed the wowTCG
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>>332192237
>everyone who splintered off after Starcraft goes to work on innovative games
>everyone who splintered off after Warcraft 3 goes to work on mediocre games
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>>332192237
I love seeing people say a blizzard game will fail, it's the best comedy to come out of the daily shitposting people do here. its the gift that keeps on giving
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>>332192547
you forgot
>12 millions players base for a game that is 10 years old
>dead
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>>332192237
>tfw the Schaefer bros., Roper and Brevik got booted when Blizzard North closed down

That was the nail in the coffin
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>>332192667
You'd think they'd learn by now. The Blizzard hate boner really blinds people to facts I guess. Same shit happens with Sony.
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>>332192754
>12 million bots, Chinese, women and manchildren
>Not dead
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>>332188158
Atleast they got some of the best tits and ass in their Assfaggot game.
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>>332192563
This guy gets it. Retards in this thread would think an invasive plant is 'successful' just because it strangles out all the competition. Blizzard is like a massive hoary old pine that poisons and shadows the ground around it.
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>>332192879
4chan?
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>>332192667
>>332192876
I don't know if you noticed this, but people have been jumping ship left and right since Ghostcrawler left. Rob Pardo and a fuck-ton of others have been leaving since.

The free ride is over. WoD was the last game to sell well, it's a free-fall from hereon out. Not even something free like HotS did remotely well. Blizzard had to hide LotV's shittiness by selling it the same day as FO3.
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>>332192990
QoP is sexier
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>tfw I fell for the "this patch fixed EVERYTHING" meme
to this day I haven't even completed the original D3 campaign
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>>332193202
There's no reason to.
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>>332192990
I see Blizzard has gone the completely pathetic route of plastering tits and ass on everything because they know their games are shit and want to attract as many braindead mongoloid cucks as possible just like the Japanese.
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>>332193202
In your defense, Blizzard went overboard with the shilling on /v/ for that patch. A lot of people got fooled.
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>>332193486
They've been taking cues from Riot for awhile now.
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>Blizzard kills MOBAs by introducing a good one that nobody likes
>Blizzard kills TCG by introducing a good one that only autists seem to play
>Blizzard kills TF2 clones by introducing a gorilla and Australian girl
>Blizzard kills my dick by censoring the warcraft women

Blizzard kills everything
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>>332193676
Hearthstone is decent at best.

They are killing it themselves slowly with not taking advantage of being a solely digital TCG
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>>332193202
No reason, either do rift or get powerleveled.
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>>332193486
nigga, it's an industry:
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2060-were-professional-furry-porn-artists-6-on-the-job-lessons.html
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>>332193795
Charging people for digital cards that they CAN'T EVEN FUCKING TRADE is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.
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>>332193860
>Advertising a liberal clickbait website

Report this man.
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>>332193528
We need to do what /co/ did to MLP and ban this shit from /v/. Nobody gives a flying fuck about neo-Blizzard but these sad fuck shills keep coming and tricking people.
It's destructive to the board and it's destructive to video games as a whole.

Blizzard is worse than EA and Konami and yet their employees are allowed to come here and trick people into playing their battle.net 2.0 garbage. /v/ needs to do the right thing and ban this shit from being posted and kick these kikes to the curb. Get these casual normie faggots off this board.
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>>332193168
Well true, to bad she didnt fucking win the Arcana ;_;

>>332193486
I rather have tits and ass in game than fat whales to please some other braindead mongoloid group.
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>>332193795
>hearthstone is decent

lol
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>>332193989
Good thing HotS has a dyke in a tank and a dyke with pink hair in Overwatch.
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>>332193959
Boycotts have been tried in the past but their drone fanbase is too stupid for their own good, they'll continue to blithely feed the beast killing their hobby no matter how well we explain things to them.
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>>332194056
They need to balance it out or some shit. Valves dyke is a half decent bitch in armour with boob plate that people complain on
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>>332193885
Yeah because I really want to see a bunch of cards for sale on some gook run website.
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>>332188158

>killed the MMO genre

More like made it actually relevant
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>>332194314
You'd get a fairer price than Blizzard rampant jewery. At least you'd be able to simply by the 40 or so usable cards instead of sifting through pure useless shit.
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>>332194165
We need to try harder and quarintine this shit. I don't come to /v/ to tolerate this garbage, if I wanted to see people advertising Blizzshit I'd be on reddit.

Fucking force this shit out and stay out. Blizzard murdered beloved genres and are literally allowed to get away with it thanks to "b-but it's vidya" faggots. Don't let industry destroying cunts have a place on /v/.
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>>332194573
we allow valve, sony and cdpr discussions though
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>>332194573
But they're just fucking videogames nerd.
Get a real hobby.
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>>332188719

Being the most iconic doesn't mean the game was good. If anything the popularity in mmos is attributed to the lack of hardcore gameplay in a genre already lacking in mechanical depth. Literally the only thing they did right in WoW was instanced dungeons, things that have non of the competition or social value as dungeons or pvp in the past.
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>>332194717
Valve pretty much saved PC gaming, Sony has one of the best consoles on the market, and cdpr made the first modern RPG that isn't insulting garbage.

Why shouldn't we allow those discussions? They never killed a genre. They never jewed the fuck out of their customers by selling out to chinese and normies.
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>>332194573
underage pls go
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>>332194968
You first Blizzard shill.
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>>332194573
Nobody cares, go back to /pol/ or wherever you crawled out of.
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>>332194417

>More like they made it relevant to casual audiences.

There were plenty of titles that existed before WoW came about, I know it's hard to believe considering WoW was your first mmo.
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>>332188158
New meme?
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>>332193056
>WoW has lower subs than usual
>this means it's failing, and WoW will NEVER RETURN TO ITS SUB GLORY
they'll hit previous numbers as soon as legion releases, WoW at its worst is still millions more subs than any other MMO and HotS is making them money hand over fist, lol@you
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>>332190335
I don't think that popular = good, but in a MMO, number of players is a factor
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>>332194728
>>332195071
>It's just video games, who cares?
>Who cares if this company completely violated consumer rights
>Who cares if this company destroyed beloved franchises?
>Who cares if they have literally killed people because of their addictive games
>They're just video games!

You people are the problem. You are why Blizzard is as successful as they are. Because you won't fight back and they know it. You've already given up like a good goyim.
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>>332195348
Yeah who cares, videogames were always shit.
Get a job.
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>>332195348
I hope this is satire.
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>>332195310

Having millions of players doesn't mean anything if there's hardly any interaction or competition between them. EVE having millions of players means there's going to be more tribalism and politics going on in the game. WoW having millions of players just means they can all quest alone and then go into 20/10 mans at endgame.

Wewlad, some great mmorpg gameplay right there.
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>>332195297
Top raiding guilds such as Method have disbanded and quit the game because it's a steaming irredeemable pile of shit. WoD subs dropped so hard they are no longer reporting sub numbers. Will Legion hit previous numbers? Who will know? Nobody? Blizzard can tell you the entire world plays it and people will believe it. How can you prove what doesn't exist?

Also I want a single fact that proves HotS is in anyway successful. Because making a couple autisim bucks off characters isn't successful to a billion dollar company.
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>>332195471
>>332195543
I want the neo-/v/ that /b/ culture brought to leave.
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>>332192583
At least guy's behind that are making a game with potential, kinda like MMOTCG concept
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>>332193669
>Implying

The lead concept artist has gone full cuckold. IronStylus is intent on turning every female into a strong womyn with much less skin showing.

Only Zeronis remains based.
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>>332194056
Don't you talk shit about my musclefu homo
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>>332196102
WHERES THE DICK
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>>332193959
>Ban video game discussion on /v/ because it might be shilling

Take a step back there, Junior.
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>>332193486
This post is so full of memes I'm not entirely sure it's a sentence written by a real person.

Is this Tay?
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>>332195693
>people keep replying with shitposts about some shit that doesn't matter because they're so buttfrustrated about a game they don't play being successful

nobody gives a single solitary fuck about what a raiding guild that has been playing forever does on an xpac that has been on the same raid for a year, nobody gives a fuck about world firsts anymore and you're ignoring relative success so hard it's becoming really sad, WoW at its worst sub numbers in years(right now) is still miles ahead of everyone else
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>>332192237
>Starcraft 2 flopped, Diablo 3 flopped, WoW is dead thanks to complete negligence, HotS is literally who tier, and Overwatch is DoA now since TF2 is getting ranked now.
??????????????????????????
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>>332196274
Who discusses Blizzard games positively that isn't a shill or a drone? Seriously?
I'm more inclined to believe that Fallout 4 discussion is more sincere. At least that game didn't destroy anything.
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>>332196259
>Impying he draws homo shit
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>>332196378
>WoW at its worst sub numbers in years(right now) is still miles ahead of everyone else
XIV has been creeping up for awhile. The people in that game actually talk to each other and enjoy the game.
It's more of an MMO than Modern WoW.

But it's still shit, thanks to Blizzard and Tigole destroying the genre.
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>>332196284
I'm sorry I'm a man of taste who doesn't look at something plastered with breasts and say "BEST GAME EVER" like all the Sanran Kagura faggots who endure that mediocre shit just for some breast physics of cookie cutter women.
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>>332192583
Fuck you bitches whining about Warcraft 3 or whatever the new "I'm so /v/core!" meme game to whine about from Blizzard is, this is the biggest tragedy of the company.

The fact that Hearthstonbe was originally just an online version of the WoW TCG that got reworked because it wasn't original enough makes it even worse.
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>>332195210

>waaah muh DAoC and EQ
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>>332196752
WoW was garbage until they hired an EQ raid leader to be fair
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>>332192563
To be fair, legion is putting a lot of work into the game and individual classes. I check MMO at work on my phone during lunch sometimes and it's always "here's the new Death Knight animations and effects in Legion, here's more info on the PVP spells / talents, here's info on the prestige system, here's how artifact effects are going to work" and shit like that.

Plus, keystone dungeons sound sweet as fuck, I'm already hyped with my old wow friends for our comp.
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>>332196869
>To be fair, legion is putting a lot of work into the game and individual classes.

I'm glad you're optimistic but I feel like I've heard
>putting a lot of work into the game and individual classes
a couple of years ago
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>>332196537
>XIV has been crapying up for awhile
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>>332196869
>keystone dungeons

their 5 mans look to be one of the best things about Legion aside from class changes(they're pretty good across the board imo). If you have a tight knit group they're basically 5 man raids
>>332197025
the only real issue i've seen with class changes(and I played a lot of classes last xpac) is that they're pruning certain things that shouldn't be pruned. Pruning simple damage spells isn't that big of a deal because they're introducing a lot more abilities this xpac but pruning shit like spell reflection and getting rid of glad stance is kinda lame. That being said what they're doing for PvP and rotations is really cool for basically everyone, especially monk/warrior/druid/warlock
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>>332195634
Don't give a shit about WoW or Eve, you think that some faggot spreadsheet game makes it good while 90% of 'gamers' think it's stupidly annoying. Complicated and frustrating != good. And for WoW, they manage to have a tremendous player base while keeping a divide between casual and competitive.
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>>332188158
Those genres are like the mythical hydra though. When Blizz killed the RTS department of their company it opened the way for countless other companies like Dawn of War and etc. When they killed Diablo it opened the way for Marvel Heroes, Path of Exile, and etc. When WoD came out it cleared the way for more MMOs.
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>>332197296
I've got me probably as DH or Warrior so I'll tank, one friend on his warlock, another friend as a shadow priest, a third friend as a shaman or monk who will probably be healing and a fourth buddy who might play. Shit's gonna be fun.
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>>332197132
Yet the threads hit the bump limit with real discussion every time.
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>>332197849
and?
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>>332197961
It's got something WoW hasn't had for years. A community. You know, that thing MMO's used to have.
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>>332196537
>XIV has been creeping up for awhile.

It still has to increase its userbase five-fold before it even matches what WoW was at the bottom of WoD, no telling what WoW is at now with Legion hype.
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>>332198231
XIV doesn't have millions of Chinese who pay by the hour to pad the games numbers.
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>>332198160
>A community.
>FF XIV
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>332198160
Yet no one talks in duty finder or anything either. Everyone talks in cities in WoW and XIV, but where else? They're chat simulators while you hang around waiting for your queue to pop in Idyllshire / Limsa / Orgrimmar / your Garrison.

The games are the same. The modern MMO doesn't encourage much in the way of actual community. Don't fool yourself.
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>>332198309
it have pedo and weebs instead.
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>>332197296
>Already getting rid of Gladiator stance

Top jej
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>>332199038
at least the other two specs are more fun now I guess(actually I dunno about arms)
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>>332188719
Speak for yourself
I dont love big corporations filled with greedy hacks
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>>332201309
>says this
>still buys games developed and published by multinational companies
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>>332191179

>not playing ladder

leave tbqh
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>another thread about hating videogames
I want to go back Fuck i miss 2008
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>>332188158
Shooters die with Overwatch, people will simply not care about other titles and start to say shit like "OW´s more fun, OW´s auto aim ultimate was skill this should be esport, OW has more diversity, OW´s the new CSGO"
and there dies global interest in FPS & MOBA :^) fucking hate this company that´s based on ruining memes
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>>332188238
Disliked the story, but customizing the Spear of Adun was awesome. I love customization in games. (See also KOTOR II's weapon mods and Dragon Age Origin's weapon runes.)
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>>332195264
whats in his nose?
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>>332203456
Shooters already died with CS.
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>Blizzard
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>>332206168
The had a couple of chances with RtCW:ET and Quake wars.
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>>332188158
Overwatch will overthrow League as the #1 game, and Blizzard will take back its rightful throne. Starcraft will likely try something new, perhaps a return to something similar to SC Ghost.
Warcraft will continue to zombie along with WoW and Diablo will get its new expansion.
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