Why will this game never die, /v/?
It's legitimately fun.
Still the best modern fps with good movement.
It plays ok, and it won't die since its like a classic.
people still play action quake
It's free, so it's the only thing that russian teenagers and other potato worshippers can afford.
It's gameplay is literally unbreakable, save for some updates where weapons would get nerfed to hell or buffed to really OP.
>interesting and funny lore
>great and mostly balanced gameplay
>actually requires skill (most of the time
>lovable characters without any fap-bait
>9 different classes and a shitton of different weapons, bringing in something new every time you play
>8 different game modes
>free
>no pay to win, all things you can buy are cosmetics
>(paid)character customization
>a ton of maps
>new updates add more maps, cosmetics, and maybe even weapons (one day)
>a competetive scene
>cancerousgreat community
What's not to love?
>>332176162
funny thing is there´s actually more of them in CSGO and L4D2. cyka blyat every fucking day.
I just play it to surf.
>>332176314
I am Russian myself, and I encountered almost no suka blyad's on English servers, unlike Dota/CS:GO
>>332176273
>mostly balanced gameplay
t. soldier main
>>332176314
Russians have ruined all of valves games for me, fuck them.
>>332176553
How dare those assholes ruin Ricochet
>>332176473
>t.
stop this shit
But yeah demos and soldiers are OP as holy shit. The only time I ever go them is to wreck engie nests solo and I always feel dirty doing so
If the beta is anything to go by, I might actually start enjoying this game again now that comp ranking is a thing.
I actually have to ask people if I can go Medic for a change.
It's fucking strange.
>>332176704
>>332176473
>Soldier and Demo are OP
Oh hey guys
>>332176701
The russians nuked that game so hard even they themselves left.
It's a dead man walking
>>332176841
Hi, easy kill, what's up?
>>332176841
>Pyro is OP
Maybe if hes a team player he is a force to be reckoned with but I solo pyro is always an easy kill unless he random crits you
Have they finally fixed the sv_pure bullshit from valve servers?
>>332176841
Maybe if the team you are going up against is retarded then yeah he can be OP. If you get good at airblast he is fun as fuck to use to piss off soldier and demo mains
It keeps getting updates so it's constantly a 'new' game.
If it was released with a few updates like most games it would have died years ago
>>332176969
bullshit. people always forget pyro has a shotgun, too.
>>332176965
>>332176969
Pyro's who can reflect are really hard to kill as soldier without the shotgun; but if it's your usual pub Pyro, he is just a running torch. A good Engie and a Pyro working as a team are almost unbeatable. It happens on extremely rare occasions tho.
>>332177082
I'm not saying he is OP, he is just a pretty good counter to those two and the Spy
>>332176415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYB4v8uThXc
>>332176273
>mostly balanced gameplay
>while sniper and scout exist
I agree with the rest though
>>332177162
Either that or scorch shot since its pretty broken atm. Totally shits on large groups like in payload or wound up heavies trying to make a push from a distance
>>332175706
it wont until they stop giving little ozzy kids macbooks for loan in highschool. Its like the first thing they get, F2P and Free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNU3aIJs88g#t=3m22s
>>332175706
It died in 2009, I tried playing again recently joining multiple servers. It's just people not playing the game now just roaming around. If you try to play the game they ban you.
>>332177543
I can give you a compet beta pass if you want to enter the tryhard zone
>>332177278
>scouts
>unbalanced
>while Natasha gets buffed
Literally tiny baby man with little guns. As a heavy main, them and demonight are the easiest picks.
>>332177627
yeah but that damage loss makes you get fucked so hard by any heavy in a four mile radiusalso It doesn't have the sexy war room skin or festive lights
>>332177968
>War Room skin
>one of the best looking skins in the game
>can't be strange
>>332177968
Damage loss is a problem sometimes, but the 20% damage resistance while spun up helps a lot. Basically, while you have -25% damage, all your enemies also have a -20% damage.
The game itself is good, but if you're not interested or are bad at the game there's always trading. It appeals to a lot of people.
>>332177454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCf_c-gLkSI
>>332175706
Play this game online to get kill by hacker steam accounts?
>Fuck Off.
>>332178120
>tfw i know that feel all too well
j-just wait anon, we'll be able to trade up civillian stat clocks next update for sure
>>332178476
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju4jvlq7gc4
>>332176273
>Friend IRL refuses to play TF2 on the grounds of it being 'Pay2Win'
>He plays games like Hearthstone and WOW
>He says TF2 is P2W because non-stock weapons are 'better'
>>332178646
I'm not lying.
What about those losers forcing us to enjoy groups to get hacked? Happy to play steam offline mod with no friends.
>>332178646
I think maybe he was referring to a specific shit that would allow people to give or take items from you, of any steam inventory, just by playing the game
Or some shit like that
>>332175706
I'll never understand the appeal of the gameplay, it's literally just randomly running around the map even when going for an objective and the gun play is just flat out uneven.
Most people only play it for the hats and those annoying fucking meme servers. If you play this game casually chances are you're the worst kind of person on steam
Because people spend a lot of money and time in this game.
>>332178914
No is not that dude.
People play on CS online a few hours and we get hacked in the next day. Because they know your name account, even with VAC Activated they go in. I got hacked 2 times and i recover it by steam. Since i been offline with no friends for 8 years, i never got hacked again and why? Because they wanna see people get hacked and be offline forever!
>>332178752
The only cases of "non-stock weapons are better" are some weapons, and Pyro's primary flamethrower (that's arguable, but if your aim is good you are better off with the Degreaser)
>>332179110
What? The degreaser was nerfed to hell, there's no point in using it now.
>>332179110
You mean Backburner
>crits from behind
>can still airblast
What's not to like
If you need more than 3-4 airblasts to kill a soldier/demo you deserve to get killed anyways
>>332179083
Thanks to the stupid virus is up there surfing on our computers to get the codes.
>>332179110
since both the phlog and degreaser got rightfully nerfed, stock is one of the best choices of flamethrower along with the backburner if you don't airblast too often
still though, fuck the degreaser and anyone who uses it
>>332176273
Also
>mods
>>332176273
>every weapon feels the exact same
>volvo can't balance for shit
>random crits
>>332179310
> Porn Mods.
>>332178784
>>332178914
I was referring to his misuse of greentext, but i have 1,200 hours and have not been hacked once
>>332179310
>mfw installed the "surprise buttsecks" as the knife critical sound
Playing spy is so much better now.
>>332179205
you need to hog ammo packs if you use airblast to actually juggle people around and not just for reflects and extinguishes
people always call the backburner a crutch because it has no downside for noobs (cause they don't bother to airblast) but you need to do some serious flanking work (preferably with detonator jumps) to make use of the upside.
>>332178120
>Release all these fucking awesome skins as free ones from the pass
>Only the absolute bottom tier gets to be strange
I want my fucking strange high roller rocket launcher
>>332179368
Well depends of the friends and groups you have.
>>332179110
Literally the only case where your friend is right.
>>332177601
Hey anon give me the beta, I want to play it.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Galexro/
>>332179837
i added u to play, my name is antoinedu69
x)
>>332179837
sent ;)
i remember when trading first came out for this. got some real nice deals on the /v/ trading threads before they were full of stupid spammers
traded some crates for earbuds and some crates for sam + max ears
i feel bad about those trades sometimes desu but they were fair at the time
Beggar's bazooka of never ending shots still not nerfed.
>>332175706
fok
>>332181394
no u
>>332176273
>What's not to love?
for me two things
>optimisation
Game runs fucking terribly.
>class balance
Pyro and Spy are pretty much useless because everybody does their jobs better;
If you want to assassinate someone, Sniper can click heads quickly and safely from far away rather than Spy having to walk right up to their backs. If you want to destroy a building, Demoman does it much more quickly, and safely with stickybombs than Spy walking up to a sentry and putting a slow-acting Sapper on it.
Pyro is squishier than Heavy and Soldier, slower than Medic and Scout, has less damage than Heavy/Demo/Sniper/Spy, and has the worst effective range in the game. Afterburn does shit damage and is easily put out, and reflecting projectiles is nice, but only 2 classes use projectiles on the regular and that won't stop you getting shot by bullets.
In a serious game of TF2, all that leaves Pyro with is airblasting Ubercharges on last holds (about 20 seconds total per match), and all Spy can do better than anyone else is kill Medics who are out of reach of your Sniper.
Both Pyro and Spy will probably not be played at all in matchmaking if Valve doesn't shape up.
There are also a lot of cancerous weapons like Vita-Saw and Darwin's Danger Shield and Razorback and Crit-A-Cola that need fixing.
Apart from that, the game is indeed good.Maybe even the best.
>>332176704
Since the nerfs to his stickybombs in Love and War and the nerfs to his unlocks in Tough Break, I would argue Demoman is now actually the most balanced class in the game. He counters Engineers, he's countered by Scouts, and he goes even with most other classes depending on the situation- for example he can even lose to shitty classes like Pyro.
Stock Soldier isn't overpowered either. He doesn't hard counter anybody and he isn't hard countered by anybody. However, weapon unlocks are what make him bullshit, especially whip/pick.
People complain about every class
Sounds pretty balanced to me
>>332177162
>people always forget pyro has a shotgun, too.
Pyro has 175HP.
Soldier has 200HP.
In a shotgun-on-shotgun fight, assuming both have decent aim, Soldiers have the advantage.
There's a reason Pyros are never run in 6v6 for more than 30 seconds on average per game: Pyro is a combination of a support and combat character, and this makes it inferior in a fight to the pure combat classes.
>>332175706
I just went back to it after a few years, shit's still fun.
I don't use anything other than stock weapons.
the game would be a juggernaut if valve maintained it properly
>>332181994
Pyro isn't ran because he has zero mobility advantages
He's pretty decent in combat but soldiers, scouts, and demos can do his job and be there way sooner
Heavy can do the same combat job but faster
there's no reason to have a Pyro except super situationally on something like Gravelpit or Steel last
Who /veteran/ here?
>>332179110
>The only cases of "non-stock weapons are better" are some weapons
I'll give you one per class:
Boston Basher (pros: can basher jump, lets you build Uber faster for your med, deals more damage on successful hit, lets you steal HP kits. Cons: Damage yourself if you miss). Universally competitively used on Scout
Disciplinary Action (longest melee range in the game, boosts ally and own speed for 20/30/40% on hit, only downside is 16 less melee damage per swing on a weapon Soldier rarely uses for its damage) Universally competitively used for Highlander rollouts over stock. 6s players would use it, but it's banned.
Degreaser
Loch N Load (lets a Demo with decent pipe aim easily fuck up his intended counter)
Gloves of Running Urgently (you cannot play Heavy Weapons Man without it, Sandvich also applies)
Wrangler
Ubersaw (0.16s swing speed penalty, the time it takes to say the "mi" in "mississippi". This makes getting your average melee kill take 0.64s longer, in exchange for making your Uber bar fill 35 seconds faster.)
Hitman's Heatmaker (rewards you for what you should be doing anyway)
Ambassador (if you git gud)
There are far more weapons than this which are generally agreed to be better than stock, and used by people over stock.
>>332181795
not a single point you made was incorrect. I'm actually impressed someone on /v/ knows what they're talking about.
I reinstalled the game two weeks ago after having quit right before it went f2p.
It's fun with the cosmetics turned off.
>>332182330
>He's pretty decent in combat
Well of course he can do better in a close up fight than say Engineer or Medic or Sniper or Spy
But soldiers/scouts/demos don't just do his job, they do it better, because they don't have to worry about a really really short primary weapon effective range
>there's no reason to have a Pyro except super situationally on something like Gravelpit or Steel last
or if you're defending against an uber push, but that takes up fractions of a match
>>332175814
this desu. Granted I started playing on '10. I dislike all of the ugly cosmetics, weapon skins, and F2P shit but the game is still fun regardless. All Valve has to do is add class limits so there can be no more than 2 snipers, spies, medics, and engies on a team. Boom, instantly better
>>332182656
thanks anon, good luck in matchmaking
>>332182759
flarepunching means he's pretty decent, as he can instakill scouts
but yes he generally isn't better, Soldier especially is ridiculous versatile
Female versions of every class fucking when
>>332182606
>Degreaser
explain please. Since the Axtinguisher has been nerfed is it really worth it having a large afterburn penalty and increased airblast cost just for faster weapon switch?
>>332183059
axtinguisher has been irrelevant for years and no good pyro relies on the primary or afterburn for damage. 2 less airblasts isn't a big deal. deg will always be better unless they fix pyro.
>>332182363
>started playing in summer of 2008 when the heavy update came out
>remember when these badges first dropped
>steam forums were full of golds and bronzes constantly shitposting at each other
>all of us silvers just ignored them and played the game
>>332182849
Due to a bug caused by Valve's fucking around with the Degreaser during Tough Break, flarepunching is quite inconsistent now.
(you might want to mute the video, because the voice is a little offputting) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Az-g0YIIpk
And a good scout will usually be smart enough to backpedal out of airblast range, anyway. Though it does work sometimes.
Soldier's silly versatility isn't helped by the fact he has the most weapon unlocks in the game at 26 non-reskins, compared to Medic's 13. I'd like to see Medic get a new weapon for once (last time he got one was 2012)
>>332183485
you can flarepunch with any flamethrower (except the phlog) and nothing changed in tough break for that
the first airblast is still a predictable trajectory, shit's easy as fuck
>>332176273
>>lovable characters without any fap-bait
>>interesting and funny lore
while I got tired of playing, I have to agree with this.
of any multiplayer game ever made, TF2 hands down has the best characters and Overwatch is not going to be outdoing the Demoman or the Scout any time soon.
>>332181795
actually the stickybomb nerfs were undone because every demo main cried about it
>>332183059
Degreaser's swap speed isn't just for flarepunching and axtinguisher; it's also for being able to fire out a flare, then swap quickly back to your primary, ready to reflect an incoming projectile, and then swap back again. This allows you to put out as much damage as possible while also protecting your Medic (or stopping the enemy Medic from pushing in Uber). You can also use it to get as much movespeed as possible out of the Powerjack while also being ready to swap back again before someone shoots you and the damage vulnerability applies.
Ammo is common enough that the increased airblast cost, while annoying, isn't enough to get Pyro mains like Satan to swap from Degreaser to stock. And afterburn, as the other guy mentioned, is not what most Pyros rely on for killing anything but Spies (which are easy to kill anyway) when you have a Shotgun.
Valve succeeded in making Degreaser shittier, but not in actually stopping it being the only primary used.
>>332183909
Dropping too many sticky bombs in their diapers, unfortunately.
>>332183909
>actually the stickybomb nerfs were undone because every demo main cried about it
Are you so sure of that, anon?
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Stickybomb_Launcher#Update_history
The damage ramp-up nerf was reverted. The radius ramp-up nerf following that one was not reverted.
>June 18, 2014 Patch (Love & War Update): All Demoman stickybombs now have damage ramp up. Full damage is reached 2 seconds after firing.
>June 23, 2014 Patch: Reverted the recent stickybomb damage ramp up change. We will continue to evaluate the use of stickybomb air detonations and potential changes to that mechanic.
>December 22, 2014 Patch (Smissmas 2014): Stickybombs that detonate in the air now have a radius ramp up, starting at 85% at base arm time (0.8s) going back to 100% over 2 seconds. Stickybombs that touch the world will have full radius. Damage variance on stickybombs reduced from +/- 10% damage to +/-2%. Stickybombs now have the same base blast radius as rockets. Changed from 159Hu to 146Hu.
>>332181795
>vita-saw
People actually use that? I always figured you could build uber fast enough so it made it useless
>razorback
The only people who think it's over powered are spies who don't use their magnum or The Ambassador
>>332184440
noone uses the vitasaw in pubs because it's boring, and it's banned in comp because all it does it force the other medic to use it too, making for a boring as fuck choice
it's op in the most dull way possible
>The only people who think it's over powered are spies who don't use their magnum or The Ambassador
"b-but just shoot him" say the spies who are against completely retarded snipers who actually use the razorback when out on their own rather than protected by their team and/or sentries
>>332184440
>put good sniper with good sightlines to the enemy team
>put sentry next to him
>give him a razorback
>spy can't shoot at him because sentry
>spy can't take out sentry because he will react and kukri his ass
>No one kills him because he's too far to chip damage and popping the heads of your teammates
the only problem i have with the game at the moment is the fact that matchmaking was announced almost a year ago and there's no sign of it coming out anytime soon
>>332181795
The thing is Pyro prevails in a map where he can hit enemies with deflected projectiles with ease; people seem to forget that Pyro can also deflect Jarates, medic's crossbow, sniper's arrows and many other relevant things.
The spy prevails over sniper when snipers can't find a spot to shoot sentries
Spy is also a great character to make way for engineers for instance
While you can surely say that a ubered soldier/heavy can surely clear the way a spy in the other hand is something more flexible since he can cause a lot of disruption
I think he's the best distraction in the game and can leave a team unprepared for a push.
>>332184786
Reflecting things other than grenades and rockets take superhuman skills though
It's hard to see them amongst the spam plus they move very rapidly compared to the usual projectiles that the Pyro airblasts
>>332184440
>I always figured you could build uber fast enough so it made it useless
It's competitively banned because it gives the Medic using it a very powerful upside,
Ubercharge advantage- having a full bar of Uber before the enemy does- is extremely important, because the first one to pop invulnerability or kritz can wipe the other team. Even a 1% advantage over the other team's Medic can win a game.
In the event that both Medics die at the mid point, the one running Vita-Saw will respawn with 20% Uber, while the one without it will respawn with 0%.
Since on most midfights Medics often die, and since you build about 20% of your Uber getting to mid, this means that if both Medics die at the start, Vita-Saw Medic will be coming back with 40% Uber compared to his enemy's 0%.
The worst thing about all this is there's no way to know if the enemy is running Vita-Saw unless they actually pull it out, which makes teams reluctant to push in case the enemy is hiding an Uber advantage up their sleeve. That's why it's banned.
>The only people who think it's over powered are spies who don't use their magnum or The Ambassador
The only people who make that argument have never watched a game where it's used by teams with strong teamwork.
Normally Sniper has 125HP so yes, it's not hard for Spy to pop him once with an Amby headshot and a bodyshot to kill him.
Comp teams overheal their Sniper to 185HP or stand him next to a Sentry. A Razorback Sniper who is overhealed can't be backstabbed, but he can't be Ambassador'd to death, either, because his Sniper Rifle's headshots are more potent and he just turns around and shoots you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFXyE8SLHww
And if he's near a Sentry, you won't have time to kill him before the Sentry kills you.
>>332184768
>sap sentry
>ambassador sniper in 2 shots while engi is trying to fix his sentry
>Continue sapping sentry
>stab engineer
>be credit to team
WOW THAT WAS SO HARD
>>332175706
It is extremely good balanced
faggot
>>332184778
>no sign of it coming out anytime soon
They are doing stress tests for it and you can buy a pass that lets you play competitive right now.
I remember when /v/ was flooded with tf2 threads
Good times
>>332184786
>The thing is Pyro prevails in a map where he can hit enemies with deflected projectiles with ease
Against stupid players, sure.
Competent Snipers aren't going to be using the Huntsman at all because it's too situational. Competent Medics are going to be focusing on their heal target, rather than feeding bolts to an enemy Pyro. Mad Milk and Jarate you have a point on, but it's not really worth running Pyro for when you could have an actually good Sniper or Scout with one of their own.
>I think he's the best distraction in the game
Ehh, there's a lot of unlocks that fuck with things and replace him which won't be banned in Matchmaking. Scout's Bonk Cola for example lets Scout "disable" a Sentry far more quickly and safely than Spy can, long enough for his team to blow it up.
>>332185140
>>sap sentry
>>ambassador sniper in 2 shots while engi is trying to fix his sentry
Wow anon you're so clever. Why didn't Plat HL Spies think of that?? I mean it totally works so easily and there totally isn't such a thing as a Homewrecker Pyro!
>>332176841
Sup worst class.
How does it feel to sneak up on soldiers and STILL get destroyed?
>butbut when the soldier is already damaged and I randomly gues- I mean skillfully predict the rocket, I win!
>>332185492
>homewrecker
>not banned in comp
>>332185140
>sap sentry
>entire enemy team who were chilling near dispenser unloads on you in a spycheck panic
>engie wrenches everywhere hitting you and not just the sentry
>sniper still dropping your med
Sure is easy
Woah, hey guys.
How are you doing?
What's going on in this thread?
>>332178120
>>332178684
actually they can be now, but they need to be crafted, and the result is random in the first place so the higher tiers like war room are worth a lot.
Because it's free and has a high rate of new users every month.
>>332185584
it isn't
>>332185678
TF2c is pretty fun I guess, but only the deathmatch servers are ever full and deathmatch always felt like a "whoever gets the rocket launcher the most wins" contest
>>332185678
this games optimization is even worse
>>332185678
>the merc standing further away in a pose that is equivalent to a hoverhand
>>332183902
Overwatch isn't going to outdo anything period. That game has absolutely no chance.
>20 tick
>Blizzard balancing
Good fucking luck whoever is brave enough to buy that shit before it eventually goes F2P.
im done for good after about 1.2k hours. had my fun. hopefully overwatch is decent.
>>332185787
>actually spending that much metal/money for a CHANCE to get it
I'd rather just wait for an update to add some sort of loophole
>>332185916
it has sexy babes, is easy as shit with a low skill ceiling, and looks pretty
it's the LoL to the Dota that is TF2
>>332185916
It outdid the amount of wanks I do to TF2
>>332185927
nah boy, once tf2, always tf2. You will come back. It's just a matter of time. There is no better game than this. You're here with us, for the rest of your time.
>>332185916
>20 tick
Holy shit, really?
Dead on arrival.
>>332186159
naw son the last server i played on finally died, i have no interest in going back.
This videogame died when Valve made it F2P, opening the doors to the brony autists that still fester on this game's corpse.
Regards: Primeval warrior opinion.
>>332186045
>>332186079
LoL came in when a new genre was starting up. Overwatch is coming into a genre that is already over-saturated and established already with games like Call of Duty and CS:GO.
Face it, it's a flop. Not even Battlefront could be the "LoL for FPS".
>>332186382
Don't be so sure. Blizzard has an eye for saturated marketing. This could sell, but it won't kill TF2.
>>332185140
>Sap sentry
>Get amby head shot
>Wait for cooldown on amby for second headshot
>Engi has already hit his sentry twice
>ded
Also theres probably another team mate there to kill you anyway
>>332185492
>>332185654
>>332186908
>every scenario involves the entire team magically being around the dispenser at the exact same time and being able to react lightning fast
I just started playing Team Fortress 2 yesterday and It was pretty enjoyable
>>332185843
TF2 classics death match mode is the opposite of what i would have done, it pisses me off, takes everything thats team fortress and throws it away. Its just Unreal Tournement
I would have kept it so you could chose your class, and just balanced the classes so they are all equal
>>332186382
they have done well getting the OW brand out there so early they pretty much already have a base. the game wont die thats for sure.
>>332187070
>every scenario involves the enemy team being fucking retards
you realize this was talking about comp, right?
>>332187093
Good for you anon, just remember that Soldier takes no effort and is the easiest main
Autistic people tend to latch onto something and never stop playing or talking about it. Also little kids like f2p games. Either way TF2 is an absolute husk of what it used to be. Continually raped by valve because it's easy to just steal people's hat models and give them 10% of the money for it.
>>332175706
Legends never die.
>>332187070
Your scenario also involves the Spy in question being able to whip around and hit Ambassador headshots lightning fast.
And you don't need lightning fast reflexes or aiming to click on a sapper and delete it in one hit as Pyro.
>magically being around the dispenser
It's the Pyro's job to be with the Medic or Engineer. Often teams will simply combine the two and set up the Engineer near the Medic. This means Pyro can be there to protect both and delete Sappers and Spies with its Flamethrower and Homewrecker.
You're making a fool of yourself, anon.
>>332181795
a good pybro is as annoying as a scout. While I agree it has a serious disadvantage on most terms, that also makes the pyro less of a target. Don't diss the pyro so easilly.
Now the Spoi? that's a whole different ball game.since there are very few good spois...
>>332181912
Honestly This
>>332187263
>>332182808
Most non-valve servers are like that lol
vanilla TF2 with no content updates is my favorite multiplayer FPS of all time
>>332187328
too much turtling there.
Now a mini sentry engy with a pyro around can be really dangerous.
>play pyro
>everyone complains
>w+m1 takes no skill
Man, I just want to use a flamethrower
Who /heavy main/ here?
I'm getting alot of enjoyment from throwing out chocolate bars to teammates lately. The cooldown on that thing is ridiculous it turns me into a mini health dispenser.
>>332187540
>wanting insanely OP Demoman and Soldier
>wanting completely worthless, broken Pyro and Spy
>wanting only 6, mostly shitty, maps
>>332187423
>While I agree it has a serious disadvantage on most terms, that also makes the pyro less of a target.
All that winds up meaning is that competitive players don't play Pyro unless they're forced to (highlander), anon. Either way, the class never sees more than 20 or so seconds of play in your average comp game. Being less of a target doesn't actually make you useful, it just means they're more likely to shoot one of your useful allies, putting you at an even bigger disadvantage.
Sadly, even good Spies can't do much with the class. There's so many things thatcucka good Spy, making his disguise just about worthless and weakening his cloak.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Spy_checking#Revealing_cloaked_Spies
>>332187727
>content updates
>the same as patch updates
With you on the maps though
>>332187856
so what do you call new game mechanics? not "content"?
>>332187674
>tfw I spent all my time convincing people the dalokahs bar is on the same ground if not better than the sandvich
>tfw people are finally realizing that dalokahs is good
shotgun is pretty fun too with heavy
Because despite everything they've done to it, there's still an incredibly solid game under the filth.
I come back to it after months expecting that this is the time I finally get bored of it for good, and I don't.
HL MM when? I want to play classes that aren't Scout, Med, or Soldier.
>>332187957
God I hope they don't go nerfing the Dalokahs bar. It's an amazing feeling when you throw out a chocolate bar and a passing by teammate catches it.
>>332187957
It was shit when you couldn't toss it or had even 1 medic on the team.
>>332188085
but you don't need to do that at all in MM, especially because there's no class limits at all
>>332188278
What heresy is this? You can't go against the meta like that!
>>332188589
people who spout this shit don't actually understand why the meta is the meta in the first place
Will the new comp scene make valve rebalance the game?
>>332188968
it seems to be forcing the really OP shit like Crit-A-Cola to float to the surface really quickly, so maybe
>>332188968
There been talks about changes like that. Some even saying Friendly Fire might be implemented in competitive play.
>>332189313
bullshit
>>332188589
You can do anything you want in Fresh Chump tier. Notice the wreaths next to their names? Nearly everybody there is at the first rank.
>>332188278
What the hell is this winner screen?
>Started out summer of '09
>Get bronze
>Have over 7000 hours
>I'm considered equal to xXxSans_mlpxXx who got tf2 yesterday
>>332188968
next major update, which will most probably come out this june or july, will feature competitive's official release, and like the last two major updates, is really likley going to rebalance a ton of weapons based on competitive beta tester experiences and equip rates
>>332189474
You can draw dicks on the screen and taunt while on the winners' podium, it's pretty great.
They're incorporated as a feature in maps used in the comp rotation. If you start up an offline game on Foundry or Process, turn sv_cheats to 1 and enter noclip, you should be able to fly outside the map and look at the podium room.
>>332189494
not if you can play better than him. Fuck manufactured ranks in games.
>>332182363
>>332183463
>bought game shortly after the cheater's lament debacle
>made fun of for having no halo, must have be an idler
>made fun of for being bronze
A couple months earlier and I'd have been fine.
>>332182363
>played since beta
>account got hacked and vac banned for cheating
>whatever only cs, tf2 and half life was on there
>made new one a month before the damn medals released
>have a bronze and people think I'm some shitter
>>332189769
So long as you don't wear a gibus I think you'll be fine.
>>332176273
>>lovable characters without any fap-bait
this
NEW
COMIC
WHEN
Newfags won't find it as fun as the Oldfags would. I personally like it, and play it sometimes.
noob here
How do I get people to act like a fucking team
>>332182363
ummmm?????
>>332192031
you don't, because you are playing on apubora fucking valve server
>>332192031
play with people you actually know.
Obviously avoid servers that contain the name "mlp" or "trade server".
>>332192137
>tfw missed out on the beta even though I really wanted to be in
I can't remember why now but I was really annoyed at the time.
>>332175706
daily reminder that free games without any matchmaking are cancer
I hope overwatch will cost 50+ bucks and never gets cheaper.
Will items ever get more expensive? I'm thinking of selling all of my stuff.
What is a good inventory value estimator?
I haven't played in 3 years so I really don't know anything about its current situation
>>332192267
Nah. The Market is on its way towards a crash. You can check your items value by going to backpack.tf
>>332192457
Sounds good.
I have a full gen 1 festive set, a buds, and the all father #88
Jeez it looks like buds went down the toilet. Any suggestions on how to get some real world money out of this?
>Anno Domini 2012
>seek out a non-trade server
>finally find one
>no one is actually playing
>I get mocked for trying to cap a point
It's been four years, do people actually play the game now?
>>332175706
Selling Orbiting Fire Front Runner for 29 keys or more in unusuals.
>>332192628
Yeah, since then things have improved a bit. Those servers that force you to watch their ads got assblasted by Valve, the force of community memes has turned against people who don't cap.
Use Valve servers and UGC servers, generally all Valve servers bar Hightower will have people playing the objective.
>>332192913
>>332192628
oh also: people will be playing the objective in matchmaking for sure, even if you don't care about ranks you'll be able to find serious games there
>>332176273
>lovable characters without any fap-bait
Heavy is pretty fap bait for me
>mm is shit for meds that want to experiment
>WITH FUCKING STOCK, QF IS META
OUT OF BETA NOW
I haven't played in 5 years. I have about 2500 hours played. This game was my soul for 3 years straight. I wouldn't play anything else.
What did I miss? I remember being so excited for the Halloween events, so exited for every new update... I had close online friends that I would play with, and a small number of servers that I would play on.
So what have I missed? Are people really still playing TF2 as a game? Or is it ded?
>>332178752
I get the same shitty excuses anon
They can't handle true fast-paced action :^)
>>332176273
>>lovable characters without any fap-bait
do you even tumblr?
>>332193673
people are still playing it
>>332192613
Look into people buying backpacks. You may need a middleman for that though.
>>332193927
Do you know what fap-bait is anon?
>>332193673
I was playing vanilla orange box when you were racking in your hours, and now I'm on PC racking 2000 hours myself. The last updates were meh but this game will never die.
>>332193673
Engineers can pick up and move their buildings, they can heal them from a distance with a new shotgun, spies can pick up metal to recover cloak, demo and Soldier have a parachute item, engineer has a wrench that can teleport him back to spawn, and half the weapons you knew were most likely changed or rebalanced.
>>332176273
medic can be lex luthor jr.
and it can be fucking canon, even though med is from stuttgart and stuttgart isn't in East Germany
>>332193673
if you just want to casually play some gaems it's fine but you'll have to play on valve servers with ftp shitters that are about 10 years old on average.
if you want to play with skilled players you can only find good servers on peaks times.
also still a lot of cheaters around.
>>332181994
Specifically, Pyro is a close combat class. At a longer range, every class has an advantage over a Pyro, while at close range, the Pyro has the advantage 90% of the time (unless you're a heavy/being backed up by a medic).
The key to beating a Pyro is keeping your distance. The key to being a pyro is closing the gap. And if you're a Backburner like me, NOT alerting the Soldier you're tailing that you are in fact there.
>>332178752
Wih the demand for silly cosmetics and unusuals. I'd argue that Tf2 is "Pay to Lose." Unusuals are essentially bulls-eye targets for snipers.
>>332194301
>mfw a soldier + medic use uber and try to destroy my sentry while I repair it faster then he damages it, from a mile away
they turn around and try to kill me when they realise it doesn't work but by then it's too late, the uber is gone and my sentry rapes them
erry fucking time
>>332194910
then it's a really bad med and solly couple
>>332194989
as they usually are.
>>332176841
>That phlog nerf
R.I.P pyro
anyone here played overwatch beta? is it as bad as I think it is?
>blizzard has stated multiple times they want to make it casual friendly
>players who aren't good at fps are supposed to do well
>ultimate looks like random crit on demand
pls don't ruin this blizz
>>332195695
mercy is just a medic but better
>>332195695
I wont play it if you cant turn ultimates off
>>332182363
>I played tf2 on PS3 since early 2008 without knowing a PC version existed until the next year, giving me shitty bronze.
Why can't these fucking badges upgrade automatically the more years it's been, fuck.
>>332194910
>Go direct hit
>Destroy sentry before the engie can even blink
>>332195707
Fuck, now I want to get texas ten gallon for my loadout
>The cheapest paint is now over 5 refined
>implying it isn't already dead
>>332197030
>77000 current players
>>332182363
I kinda wish I got the primeval warrior, or even the soldier of fortune one.
Grizzled Veteran badge color looks like shitty mustard yellow
>>332195695
From what I can tell, it's a little more casual and slow than TF2 but aside from that I don't have too many complaints. Blizzard has taken an interest in balancing the game, pretty much all the heroes are more unique than anything you can put together in TF2 (excluding spy) and it isn't bloated to hell like TF2 is either.
Plus, the community is there to play the game rather than sit around in trade servers. What I like about Overwatch when I compare it to TF2 is you're never left guessing what a hero can do. You know all the heroes abilities and how to properly react, whereas with TF2 if you see a demoman you're left wondering what the fuck they have in their secondary/melee slot. That's another thing- melee slots. Why does TF2 make you switch weapons when you want to melee? Just let me press a button to hit them, fucking hell. Overwatch looks like they have the core game figured out, TF2 has been out for years and Pyro/Spy are still useless, Demo is still broken.
>>332197191
Yes it's dead.
It's dead for everyone I want to play it with.
I wish it wasn't. I miss TF2.
matchmaking is fucking terrible, even with a 6-stack
How do I make this game run smoother?
getting heavy frame drops when the action happens all in one place
It turned into a trashy game with ugly cosmetrics and a weaboo fanbase.
It was fun from 2008-2012 when it still had a non-tumblr community, and the updates were active.
>>332176841
I always love mind gaming pyros by never firing off a rocket until they panic and air blast prematurely. It seriously always works. Even against people who main pyro.
>>332197443
>horse fucker fanbase
FTFY
>>332197548
this
friendle reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU1Qg1oWqz4
>>332198093
brilliant
>>332179837
Send one here pls? I have over 300 hrs and I'm dying to try comp http://steamcommunity.com/id/willpkberg/
>>332198317
>saying something like "over 300" like it's much
The game has been out for a long time, 300 is basically nothing.
WHEN IS THE NEXT COMIC VALVE?
YOU SAID IT WOULD BE FASTER THAN THE LAST ONE
oh pootis
>>332178752
I don't understand your reasoning, all TCG and CCG are "pay2win" that's just the nature of them. I don't understand you including WoW in there on the basis that it's not pay 2 win at all.
LETS QUEUE LADS EURO ONLY http://steamcommunity.com/id/coinscoinscoins
>>332198489
I just can't not have fun
>>332175706
Because there is no other casual FPS you can just hop on and play for fun. Everything else is SUPER COMPETITIVE E-SPORTS MTN DEW EDITION
>>332198604
Let's see if you're actually good or not then
After 2000+ hours, this is my only complaint of the game.
Love everything about it except the game part.
>he doesn't main LMAOBox Sniper
>>332198847
Not only you can play it casually, it also has the best movement in a still alive FPS outside of Quake Live
>>332185916
>>332186306
The 20tick thing is a meme. Noone actually knows and yet people post like they do
>b-but the wireshark data
No.
>We don't actually know what the tickrate of the servers is, I saw the thread with the wireshark capture, and it shows the client receiving packets every 50ms. This would indicate 20 tick, but this is only true if the client update rate = the server tick rate. Often the client update rate is a parameter that is set locally in the client that will be sent to the server when the client connects. The server then sends updates at that frequency. The server may actually be running at a higher tick rate, but if the client update rate is set to 20, then the server will only send an update every 50ms.
>So before you crucify the developers over 20 tick servers, figure out what the tick rate actually is, and whether the client update rate can be changed in a config
>>332198965
Get better. I can understand bad players complaining about it because it's truly the king of shitter-stompers next to soldier but after 2000+ hours you should be use to them enough by now to know how to deal with them using any class.
This is like someone who has played 2000+ hours of a fighting game complaining about a character when by then they should be able to dominate every character using any character, even the joke ones.
>>332199210
>tfw using Lmaobox scout against competitivefags
>all that elite salt
>>332186382
>>332186834
>>332186306
>>332185916
Mark my words, Overwatch is going to be very popular. It may take a little time to get there but the game is going to have staying power
>>332186045
>is easy as shit with a low skill ceiling, and looks pretty
I thought this too but watching characters like tracer or pharah has me thinking differently.
The kind of mid air mobile rockets shots she has to hit is equivalent to TF2 if not greater.
>>332199503
If it isn't popular now it will never be.
>>332199625
you're retarded
>>332199625
csgo was barely popular at all until valve started supported the competitive scene
>>332199859
you're retarded
>>332181795
100% correct on all counts, friend.
Soldier's balanced in the sense that he doesn't have an utility. All he does is kill. He kills good, but that's all he does, and against a team of competent people is just THE combat class, not a god.
It's pubs where he just shitstomps you, since pubs never communicate about objectives or pushes and just let him gunboat in, kill the medic and leave, then rinse repeat while they mill about doing nothing.
>>332176273
But is itfree?
>>332183909
>>332184118
>That moment when people don't realize that if that nerf was still used the Scottish Resistance would be better over the stock in almost every way.
