What went so horribly wrong?
Nothing it's an amazing game. Best in the series.
You couldn't romance Shawn
Bethesda should stick to TES
>yes
>sarcastic yes
>yes, but tell me more
>fuck you, but yes
>>332136225
>Fucked up the perk chart and all its potential
>too much FPS, too little RPG
>lazy writing, 80% of the game is radiant quests. All the quests are too spread apart, literally no point to explore other than to find quests. But why would i want to find quests when most of them are either poorly written or just flat out shit?
>dialogue wheel
>even with written out responses, the voiced actor doesn't match what the sentence says, and his acting is really shit
>>332136791
kek'd
but true
>>332136225
The game's code.
>>332136419
Correct, Fallout 4 was the best game in the COD series.
I think it;s the Industries distance from it's root, particular to RPG's D&D should be the mark, if it won;t make a good campaign then redo it.
In addition they try to appeal to too wide of an audience (by making as simply as possible), before the industry knew exactly what the RPG audience wanted and could handle. this is reinforced by their sales numbers, and thus they produce a similar product Ad nauseum .
this is tragic if you look at Bethesda games from early on their focus was in the place it needed to be, on creating bigger more detailed, worlds, and having the players actions have effects as opposed to simply barring them form doing said action, ect
>>332136225
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
The dialogue and quests are absolute shit when compared to New Vegas. I'm honestly even merciful towards Bethesda and I would let it pass if they even tried, but they obviously didn't.
Especially the guy who thought that it's acceptable to have almost all Minutemen stuff as radiant quests should be whipped. Hard.
>>332137724
They're absolute shit even compared to F3 (and i loved that game. Deal with it).
>>332137724
Also, the gun selection absolutely sucks. If you look at the base weapon selection that the game has, it's ridiculously small.
But what about modding? Doesn't help, as most of the mods are just small damage/clip size boosts that don't really change how the gun feels.
Just compare normal sniper with anti-materiel rifle in NV and then compare normal sniper (which is just hunting rifle with scope) with .50-refitted sniper in Fallout 4. Which one actually gives you the impression that weapons actully differ from each other and that .50 rounds are beastly? Not Fallout 4, I'll tell you that.
>>332137682
Its a master piece
It gets repetitive and boring after about 10 hours
>>332138065
And then what about the most retarded looking assault rifle to ever appear in vidya?
Why is this allowed?
>Bethesda
There you go.
>>332136552
This, really. They seem to at least do better with TES, but cant get it together for Fallout.
>>332138454
>>332138545
I know shit about weapons, care to explain what's wrong with that?
>>332138671
Nonsense. Skyrim had copy and paste dungeons while Fallout 4 had none of that.
>>332138671
TES is going down the same path
>>332138692
Ones a shotgun the other is a combat rifle
>>332138731
>copy and paste dungeons
They all do.
>>332138753
Lets hope FO4 is a signal to backtrack towards more complexity.
>Make a game where everything is garbage except for the exploration/scope
>Try to repeat the formula for 15 years
This is what went wrong. Bethesda never improves.
>>332138454
>>332138545
Another thing that's funny to me, is if you take a laser pistol and make it longer through mods it calls it a laser rifle instead.
no stats, dialogue options, some lazy omissions
desu, its pretty good. there are some issues but overall its a good game.
>>332138941
I dunno all they seem to care about is sales, and Fo4 had plenty of those
>>332138974
On a positive they seem to finally understand the fucking source material a little better
>>332138815
Its not as bad as you're saying but its still pretty lazy.
Nothing.
>yfw people on /v/ bought this game
>>332139071
I am sure attachment rates have gone down though. This is bad in the long run for them. They were able to milk skyrim for years and keep a steady pace on sales, but I imagine F4 might not fare as well.Unless we get some really good robot sex mods.
>>332139438
what do u play
>>332139438
>people on /v/ buy video games
Is it really so surprising?
>>332139438
the institute energy weapons are a joke.
another screwup for bethesda to make everyone in the world so retarded that anything which doesn't look like dumpster trash put together for a middle school science fair project High-Tech by comparison. It's total nonsense.
they had this technology back in the west coast. even bandits had access to these types of weapons because they were so common.
These should be the default energy weapons and they're not.
I played F4 for about 5 hours after pirating it and then uninstalled. Unless the modding scene really kicks off with some exceptionallewdstuff I won't redownload it.
I have a feeling they might try paid mods again.
>>332139602
>people on /v/ buy bad video games
Not at all.
They thought replacing all the RPG mechanics,with poorly implemented gun customization would be a good idea.
>>332139576
1 abbreviation DLC if they alredy sold it they may just rebuy used and to get the DLC
>>332139737
They are also weaker than the standard laser weapon by default (they are bit faster, but with the somewhat rarity of ammo early on, it is just not worth it).
It suffers from the same thing 3 did. They added things they thought were "cool" without putting much thought it.
Granted it's a lot better than the nonsense in 3, but there's still a lot of issues
>>332139737
It's not like Obsidian always designs perfect weapons though.
This was considered appropriate for a game based on 1950s aesthetics, after all.
>>332139737
If the model was like 50% smaller, the rifle wouldn't be so bad, but as it is, it takes up a fucking 1/4 of your screen. Same thing with the "pistol".
>>332140119
why does everything have to be made out of junk? it pisses me off.
they live 200 years after the wipeout of the future but it's still the future godammit. where are the rusted and worn high-tech energy blasters?
>>332139737
>>332140119
Another thing I don't understand about the mods is the choices.
You can either choose waste a hundred bullets that deal 5 damage a piece.
Or shoot five bullets that deal a hundred damage a piece.
At what point did you realise Bethesda didn't give a single shit while making 4?
Magic weapon enhancements was that point for me
>>332136225
The bolt-action is on the wrong side
That shit pisses me off so much
>>332140431
This was in Fallout 2. I think an m16 variant works pretty well in the game world.
>>332140431
considering fallout 2 had a p90, im sure itll be ok
>>332140607
the "people will mod the game anyways and fix all our stuff" attitude sure rings a bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rEtNzCzOzo
1. Radiant quests
2. Voice acting
3. Terrible writing
The game's a shit sandwich where you talk to a guy where every bit of dialogue you can say says nothing, he asks you to pilot the super fighting robot armour instead of anyone he actually knows then when the fight's over he moves in to your old home and wants you to save the same kidnapped farmer's wife over and over.
Then we get dumb shit like Maxson knowing the androids are out there copying people but he lets you join up and have full reign of the ship and when it turns out the guy who signed you up was an android he doesn't interrogate you at all. If you agree to kill the android for him but betray him to help the android escape he'll show up completely alone in the middle of nowhere to debate with you instead of just gunning you both down from a vertibird.
and then there's this
>who cares? fuck off nerd
>>332140942
ever heard of Lore congruity neither has Betheda
>>332136225
They made an RPG and forgot the RP. Fucking like 3 quests and infinite shitty fetch quests sending you to kill generic robots and mutants for RNG loot. They turned my all time favorite CRPG franchise into a Borderlands clone.
Fuck. That. Shit.
>>332140942
This Hines guy is supposed to be Beth's PR, but every tweet I see from him is passive aggressive and full of sass. I have no idea how he manages to keep his job.
The red line is the actual limits of the game world.
Why in the fuck did they include all that stuff on the edges if they only built out the Glowing Sea?
>>332141351
It look pretty
>>332141351
Because you can see past the boundaries
>>332141351
>the two ends of the railroads just stop
what was that video that showed a guy trying to get outside the map?
>DLC will fix issues
Just admit you sold a shitty broken game.
You can't holster your gun, they just disappear
Fucking lazy work there
>>332141932
jesus fuck how could they fuck this up, the old game did it fine
>>332136225
Nothing went horribly wrong, it just had some minor problems.
A game that went horribly wrong would be The Order: 1886
>>332139737
Why is it that the Gun Runners are able to manufacture ballistic weapons that are far superior to The Institutes enemy weapons?
>>332141351
>Oh shit I'm going past the edge of the map I wonder what crazy shit is out here
>>332142240
i bet Bethesda didn't bring this back or the .223/5.56mm pistol because it looked too advanced and would upstage the Institute weapons
>>332140431
>tfw you'll never have a 7.62x39 ar15 with a side charging handle and unnecessary forward assist.
>>332141932
I know thats lazy but I dont even mind that
only sucks that you cant see what weapons your enemys have when you sneak around them
>>332140942
This shit is the worst. A fan points out a simple flaw and Bethesda tells him to fuck off. Meanwhile, Sawyer responded to people calling parts of New Vegas piles of shit with a dignified answer, even admitting there was a lot he wished he could have done better.
>>332137392
>>332137682
Every fucking FO4 thread.
>>332141218
>>332140119
>be me
>luck build
>scavenger perk for ammo
>do the first BoS mission where you clear the silo of synths
>pick up all the guns and ammo
>literally tons of mf cells
>wow such ammo.jpg
>complete quest
>danse gives you a sweet unique laser rifle and you have ass loads of ammo for it
>mfw
>>332143152
holy shit man, his face is shopped in this pic right?
with a grin like that you would think someone had already told him not to smile on camera
>>332140942
>>332142880
Honestly, what a fucking joke. An appropriate response would be "thanks, I'll tell the team about it and see if we can get a fix started"
Not "lol, who even cares?"
To think I almost got a job working with these fuckers
>>332143152
didn't skyrim already let you walk away from dialogue options?
it wasn't amazing dialogue, but it completely blows Fallout's shit out of the water.
>>332143339
we honestly need to let them crash and burn
>>332141218
>posting best Pete pasta
I met Todd Howard and Pete Hines at a con a while ago, I went with my girlfriend. When we approached them Pete looked at me then at my girlfriend and said "The fuck you doing with this stupid cunt? Get with this dick or get raped you whore.", I was completely shocked and didn't know if he was joking so I stood in silence just not sure of what to say. Then a voice was heard from behind him "Oh Pete you found another goofball?", "Yeah Todd, this one looks like a complete dick head, his girlfriend is pretty banging though, I'd fuck her asshole", "Oh yeah, maybe we should fill his girlfriend ass with goofballs so she'd know how much of a goofball he is". Right at that moment Pete jumped on my girlfriend and pulled her pants down, I tried to stop him but Todd jumped on me and held me down he started whispering in my ear "She's going to get the goofballs and you aint going to do nothing about it!", I watched on in horror as my girlfriend stared at me in the eyes as Pete undressed her and rammed his fingers up her ass, she was trying to scream but Pete just kept pushing her head down. Pete looked at me and mouthed the word "Goofball", It was like a silent movie, I watched as Pete then proceeded to pull out his testicles and forcibly push them into her anus with his hands. Todd who was still holding me down started to squeal into my ear "She's getting the goofballs", he started to twist my nipple as far as it could go, and I could feel blood trickling from it onto my shirt, I felt what I can assume was Todds boner pushing into my back... I blacked out.
>>332143508
I agree. They are riding on the successes of fallout 3 and skyrim at this point. They really rushed fo4 to release last year and it shows.
If elder scrolls 6 is like fallout 4, I will never buy another of their games.
>>332143556
>>332143556
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1e2Vj6643bg
>>332143730
the fag who made this properly never played the originals
>>332143839
XBOX WINS AGAIN
>>332143876
http://imgur.com/a/rZBvn
>>332140607
I'm glad I saved this image.
Fuck's sake, the "Skyrim with guns" joke ended up being a little too real.
>>332142240
the institute dont have to use their weapons. they just give it to a robot and send it off into the wastes. the synth isnt going to come back bitching that his guns a pile of shit like an ncr soldier. theres no need to innovate cause gun is fine and nobody says otherwise. if a synth dies just send more.
>>332144169
I take it back anon
>>332140607
>>332144276
>>332136225
Same things that were wrong story wise with 3 but in next gen. It's not made by obsidian
>>332141218
The problem is that he's mixed his personal account with his professional job.
All the PR people in our marketing branch are told to specifically keep two accounts so this type of stuff doesn't happen.
>>332142880
It was pretty neat reading all his responses as well.
>>332143876
Probably I now I sound like a ducking autist
>>332142880
>>332144714
>>332142515
>This filler weapon is literally better looking than everything in 4
What went wrong?
>>332137134
>playing male character
>upset at voice acting
What did you expect? Shepard?
>>332136225
Lots to do but no challenge to it or trials to overcome, many things have either no point or have been done better by others.
Want the best power armor? Just level up to 40ish and roam the lands till you just trip over it.
Paint jobs? Most are given after joining factions and only one (hot rod pink) demands any stress/work to get.
You can build a base but with weird limiting rules of where/how to build leave you with little noteworthy looking bases and even if you sweat the energy to build a big one you just blew a lot of resource to make a rundown building that you can't share easily with any community. And all resource are piss easy to get. They are everywhere and once you hit high levels the vendors are always loaded with enough to rebuild Massachusetts.
Followers are better demanding you take actions they like but again very exploitable and once max and given the perk nothing changes. Oh wait you could romance them but then all you get is a slightly better exp boost when you sleep and extra random dialog
And dialog is where you hurt the most in the game, most of the cast and 4 options with every conversation that either all say the same thing or lead to the same answer with no change in tone or extra comments. Begging the question why give the illusion at all.
empty calories the game
It'll get better when the creation kit/GECK/modding tools are released. All Bethesda games are boring without mods, even Morrowind.
Managed to get 40 or so hours out of it, and as an action adventure game it's okay ish. At this point complaining about bethesda having shit writing or shit mechanics is beating a dead horse.
>>332145093
>>332136225
How good is a 9~10 luck build in this game?
If there is no casinos, why would pick luck? lol
>>332145093
>nearly 6 months after release
>first DLC out
>still no GECK
We ain't getting it until well after the DLC is done, if we get it at all.
>>332145471
no better than 9~10 of any other SPECIAL
hell most you can go with 7 or less.
The boost most give are either negligible(Endurance, Perception, Agility, Luck) or lose purpose over time (Intelligence, Charisma, Strength)
The best and/or needed perks are 6 and up. Everything else is fluff.
I feel they tried way to hard to idiot proof character creation
>>332145471
increases your critical charge rate
all perks are now tied to SPECIAL instead of a mix of things
You can increase your SPECIAL when you level up though, so don't worry too much about your starting statsI can't believe these things I just typed apply to a fallout game, it's making me sick
>>332145962
Correct
Considering the first two DLCs are things that would have been made with the GECK months ago shows there agenda
Paid mods didn't work so now they won't help the community.
>>332146132
Blame the whiners
Bethesda has the weirdest fans.
The big baby shitfest thrown around Fallout 3 over a level cap restricting your stats and special show how brain dead and "100% everything makes me special" retards they have
>>332146152
Yeah, Automatron is basically RobCo Certified with a couple of quests thrown in.
They couldn't let TalkieToaster remake the one of most popular mods for F3, Vegas and Skyrim for the 4th time in a row, so they had to jump in and make it first, so they could make a profit out of it.
Can we get a list of every fo4 quest of the top of your head only
>>332138454
Wait did they seriously reuse the PPSH barrel as the combat shotgun from FO3 again?
At least the drum isn't near the fucking end of the barrel anymore. A slight improvement for Beth.
>>332145962
GECK is out sometime next month Spergo, stop complaining
>>332146968
the one where you go somewhere and kill a bunch of people
>>332146968
that one with the robot ship
uhh
>>332146968
The Silver Shroud.
Last Voyage of the U.S.S. Constitution
Another settlement needs your help general.
>>332146973
Sauce? All I can see on Bethesda.net is to "stay tuned", not that it's due in April.
>>332144276
>Heals targets instead of hurting them
>Medic's Fatman
>A shoulder fired catapult that throws a retarded "tiny nuke" that explosively heals the fuck out of anything in its radius
Bethesda please
It wasn't made by Obsidian.
>>332146968
Silver Shroud
Robot ship
That one that ends with the pickman guy who murders bad guys (it's just a generic kill raiders dungeon with horrifying pictures and surprise pickman at the end tho)
A bunch of radiant quests
>>332147318
What? You didn't think shooting bullets into people to make them heal was a good idea?
>>332146968
Secret of Cabot House
>mfw it's the same "go here kill raiders" style as everything else
>it's literally magic
>"alien ship under the mojave ;)"
>>332143274
He looks like the Joker without makeup
>>332145991
11 endurance and 3 ranks of life giver will give you so much health you can just let ghouls crawl on ya and you can't die even on survival difficulty.
>>332143556
Thanks for the laugh anon
>>332136225
Every aspect of it was half assed
>>332147523
Why didn't they just sabotage all the nuclear weapons during the Great War into Medic's Nuclear ICBMs
That way the world would have been saved and all problems would have been destroyed
Fo4 was an attempt by Todd to "do the same things Obsidian did, but better, because I'm better!"
>hmm.. NV had a motivator, Benny.. oh i know! Kellog and Shaun! mine's more dramatic because it's your son! will totally win the fans.
>wow, the players must have liked the 4 factions thing in NV. i'll do the same! all my factions will be just as morally ambiguous, it just works!
>>332136225
http://vocaroo.com/i/s11ulPjPO9nK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFfnu7MQfrY
>>332147975
>Can handle Benny in a bunch of different ways
>Can handle Kellogg in exactly one way
Emil Pagliarulo is so fucking incompetent he cannot copy and paste a narrative point from the previous game properly without cocking up the writing.
>>332147975
>tfw felt way more motivated to find Benny than i ever did about finding Shaun
>tfw enjoyed the different factions of NV for different reasons, but the only group who was even remotely entertaining in FO4 were the Atom Cats
>>332136225
the game makes no sense
>>332147975
Bethesda doesn't even know what Fallout is even about
>>332147698
Wait you can die?
Have you died?
Are we playing the same game.
Do you not understand with the overall pointless of that build is?
If you like the silliness of it sure but you can do a more even 5+ across build in survival and destroy everything because it gives you power armor and parts left and right and some of the best guns are just given to you. Hell once you get your hands on a gatling laser the game goes to fucking easy mode.
>>332148313
>FO4 were the Atom Cats
that atom cat poetry night
fucking gold i tell you
only time i legit lmaod
>>332136225
they went with the exact same formula they used to make Fallout 3 and with the same outdated engine from Skyrim.
did they honestly expect no one would notice?
>>332136494
OHHH SHAWWWWNNN *SPLIRRG*
hey guys roll your Sole Survivor
>1 - Vault 111 pre-war husband with a military degree, survived a cryogenics experiment, and is now on the hunt for his missing child and avenging his dead wife.
>2 - Vault 111 pre-war husband with a military degree, survived a cryogenics experiment, and is now on the hunt for his missing child and avenging his dead wife, except he's an asshole.
Why does Beth name every single fucking dog companion Dogmeat?
The real Dogmeat died a long ass time ago in the Cathedral when he got cut in half by a laser wall.
I guess they just think Dogmeat is a haha whacky name for a dog and thus have to keep using it.
Also reminder that Dogmeat is a central, essential NPC to the main quest of FO4. And apparently someone trained him to be a crazy good tracking hound despite the fact he is a stray.
Stop with the whacky bullshit Todd.
>>332149043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqDFuzIQ4q4
>>332149137
you could get Dogmeat in Fallout 2 via visiting a meta 4th wall destroying random encounter
Also you name the dog
in F4 Dogmeat is only his name if you opt out of naming him.
>>332148450
Image how better the intro to Fo$ would be if they built up the tensions instead of
>ideal suburban life
>oh no nukes
>go in vault
>>332148624
>Run into the atom cats at their garage
>All are pretty damn friendly right off the bat
>Their power armor is pretty cool, including the paint job
>They are like muscle car enthusiasts, only for power armor. Sounds good to me
>offer some work for fair pay, end up helping them fight some raiders, though they clearly didnt need my help, they were already armed to the teeth
>they are still thankful for my help and tell me I can come by anytime
Atom Cats were the only group who werent trying to pretend to be anything other than what they are. They were the true heroes of Commonwealth.
>first quest in Fo4
>group of raiders attacking minutemen
>cant help raiders
>cant solve with diplomacy
>cant subtly destroy both sides
>cant ask why the raiders are attacking the minutemen in the first place when the entire museum almost has nothing to offer
>>332143203
I finished the game and I was still cursing on that gun and all the fucking ammo you get from synths.
>>332149334
I would also re write the Raiders portray them as desperate humans not psychopaths
>>332149334
>Prewar vertibirds
>Nukes drop literally the same day you finish the sign-up stuff
>Protag and family eat a face full of full scale nuke and don't instantly die, receive any radiation, or get blinded from staring directly at it
>The mother fucking Vaultec employee survives and hangs around for 210 fucking years because lol its whacky
>The Institute manages to target the family that received a fuck ton of radiation prior to being frozen, thus their entire mission is fucked to begin with
>The Institute kills all remaining radiation free people because "no loose ends"
>>332149635
>as desperate humans not psychopaths
THIS. fucking this. they just felt like assholes instead of Mad Max-tier raiders.
The Fiends where better and more intriguing than 99% of the raiders i've met. Cook Cook himself is a fucking rapist because he takes too much drugs, and goes fucking crazy if you kill his favorite brahmin. Cook Cook felt more human than any raider i've encountered.
>>332137392
has Mods calls it a game bug. Gets made at game he fucked up.
>>332149169
>>332149169
>being evil is essential to Fallout
That's retarded
He's right but for the wrong reason.
You were force to save Vault 13
You were force to save your tribe
What should have happen Preston's quest and MM should have been there own separate thing and the Settler shit should have been handled by Cogsworth sharing what he has learn over the years to make a habitat
>>332149716
topkek
>>332145471
luck has some ridiculous perks if you like VATS.
on the low side you have scrounger, which is very helpful early in the game and will give you very rare ammo very fast(plasma cartridges and .50 cal everywhere) with only one point investment.
Idiot Savant is almost cheating, you just get retarded amounts of experience with it.
On higher ranks you have Critical Banker to stock up on crits, which is pretty fucking great since crits always hit, Better Criticals for up to +250% crit damage, four leaf clover for a chance to get a crit stored every shot(and you can store multiples) and Grim Reaper's Sprint for a chance to get max AP and a crit every kill.
Later on, a high luck character can enter VATS, instakill a guy with one of your stored crits, get a critical from critical banker plus another from GRS, then continue the chain due to max AP until you're bored or the room is empty.
>>332149635
>listening to the Raiders tell stories when sneaking
>terminals detailing their lives and raider tribal struggles with each other
>no option to ever actually talk to them
>mfw
>>332149763
you can also somewhat sympathize with Motor Runner being a reluctant leader but also a necessary evil to contain the Fiends and keep them from extending out of their own territory.
>>332136225
Literally nothing. All we need now is obsidian to fix it and we will have a masterpiece like NV.
Its fallout 3 2, and there is notjing wrong with that.
>>332149956
in 4?
>>332149635
Don't forget Talon Company 2.0 aka The Gunners.
Another faction of retarded evil mercenaries that only exist to shoot on sight.
Why is Beth's wasteland full of mysteriously well supplied and armed mercs when there is no fucking civilization or anything that would support them or use their services?
You play as Mr freeze(or his wife in the universe where she lives)
What is there to hate?
>>332148465
I don't like power armor. I only jump in one if I'm going to do Brotherhood stuff. I prefer the stealthy approach whichrip nerfed jesus christ bethesda why rebalance a single player game
>>332149763
>Cook Cook felt more human than any raider i've encountered
We live in a strange time for vidya
>>332140358
>Jetpacks
the biggest mistake
>>332149876
>You were force to save Vault 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVc9otAbicM
>>332150071
You don't get dialogue choices that feature a ton of ice puns.
>>332150038
Yeah, in 4. The shit they say to eachother is often more interesting than "actual" dialogue.
>>332149956
>go to a random building
>2 raiders behind desk
>"dude we gotta loot that shit"
>"nah man were gonna die theres a turret"
>"fuck dude"
>feel bad about them
>wanna help them
>unfortunately their fates was sealed when they realized their game was made by Todd "Do Anything" Howard
>>332150116
after playing fallout 4
i realized that skyrim would've been way fucking worse
maybe its just the setting but i liked skyrim as a place even though it was shitty game
>>332140479
Seconding this.
>Ammo is scarce
>Armor system is dumb so automatic weapons deal almost no damage at all regardless of RoF
>Armor means it's always better to deal a lot of damage slowly than a lot of little damage
You combine all these aspects means the rapid fire weapons are trash, low shit DPS, and chug scarce ammo.
Who the fuck balanced and playtested this shit?
>>332150138
>that feel when you knew this was coming but like pretending one night v wasn't retarded
Chris stated that was a game overscreen more so than an ending.
By your logic siding with the raiders to kill the MM but they kill you and game over happens is the"choice" the retard in the video was talking about
>>332150186
someone make this a Mod
>>332150138
in fairness, to play the game fully, you had to save vault 13
>>332150270
raiders are often portrayed as actual humans, so sometimes I feel a bit remorseful.
Gunners on the other hand are 100% evil, even though they're supposed to be neutral, since they're mercs.
>>332150363
you can take weapons from enemies to get all the ammo in the weapon itself.
You can get like 600 fusion cells just on arc jet systems.
>>332150524
AMMO WITH WEIGHT MASTER RACE
WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYONE HAVE ACCESS TO POWER ARMOR
>>332150138
Then dying in general is an ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upbu3K1cwnI
I don't think you thought this through
>>332150675
only if you have some kind of realistic damage mod going.
>>332150804
you don't die, the slideshow does not playe because the Master taking over overrides all endings
>>332150937
Yeah and the master takes over regardless if you give up like in the vid id you take to long.
The game is one a timer longer than the water chip days.
Once it's up everything but you being drop in the vats plays because it's game over.
>>332148348
The vault point is insane i never considered it. It makes so much sense.
>>332151216
sorry Didn't watch that vid i assumed that
>>332149169
had linked a video to the master ending
>>332140942
wow what an asshole
>>332136225
One thing that bothered me is that they sacrificed new and original quests for generic minute men quests. Example less quest like waste land survival guide and Riley's rangers and more "there is trouble in Abernathy farm."
>>332151659
Yeah, honestly fewer quests is much better than lots of super generic "go here and kill the guys" missions
>>332151659
what if you had a divide in the MM between you and Preston and you had to compete with him to gain the most settlement culminating in a battle
>hey guys let's make a companion be a radiant quest dump that continues doing that shit even if he is your companion
>genius! We can force you to load your quest list with shit you don't care about just to turn in a previous quest only to get another one right after
>b-but what about the companion dialogue/quests?
>Shut the fuck up, dreamboy
>>332136225
Bethesda game studios
>>332149770
Are you okay? Do you need medical aid?
>gunners are just raiders in combat armor
Why, there was potential to make them somewhat interesting and there just Talon company 2.0
>>332151971
how would you go about that?
>>332151971
to be fair, they're the only faction with actual robots fighting for them
It's sad that's the only distinction though.
>>332136225
>Settlements is a huge part of the game
>but its a huge waste of time with little gain
>not even any interesting or unique settlement locations like abandoned vaults or whole towns like Concord
>>332152418
>Build up settlement related perks hoping to get better buildings
>No matter what my settlement always looks like a fucking ghetto
>>332136225
>crap loot
>crap building
>crap crafting
>crap map
>crap story
>crap companions
>crap quest
Just a terrible low effort piece of shit, does anyone have that webm of Todd looking salty as fuck at the VGAs? The look on his face when he realises Fallout didn't win a single award makes my dick hard.
>>332152579
The only thing that they seemed to really improve upon from previous games is everything surrounding power armor.
Which is completely ruined by the shit weapons in the game.
>>332152418
Is there even a point to having a settlement based on keeping the settlers alive?
You can just build a bunch of generators and water pumps and sell them off to buy everything you could ever want.
Then you buy more water pump and generator parts, and build way more, and become super rich.
>>332152579
At least they got power armor right
>>332152821
A small amount of caps and some items i suppose. Overall you can complete the game just fine without investing time in settlements. The game just throws it in your face because of how early you encounter the minutemen.
>>332152780
>>332152837
I didn't really like the power armor that much.
I mean it's good.
But what ruins it most is the useless upgrades for them.
From an immersive point of view the upgrades have nothing to do with being armor, and add more to your stats.
>>332153264
An improvement, not perfection. Hopefully Obsidian comes in and does it for them again.
>>332150524
>was trying to play as evil character
>notice vance is stuck in room with synths
>bust into test launch room and close doors behind me
>huh huh huh good bye Vance
>your power armor is mine!
>engine test engages
>SCREAMS
>go out to collect goodies
>Vance is fine
what the hell bethesda, I just want to play as an evil character and there were so many opportunities to do so.
Why won't you let me have fun?
>>332153353
>hopefully obsidian comes in
>obsidian almost went bankrupt because of bethesda
>"hey make us agame that scores 90 on meta critic!"
>"ye aight"
>scores 89
>"were not giving you the money we promised because you scored 89 not a 90!"
>"wow you fucking assholes"
Basically a summary of what happened.
>>332153353
>>332153940
Obsidian's also busy salvaging that dead World of Tanks clone
>>332153940
Both sides have said they are open to working together in the future so they aren't that bitter.
>>332153940
>fallout 4 at best only has 88 now on metacritic
>>332153463
This when i first ran into that paladin guy it took everything i head to beat him yhe fuck down. I was playing as an evil guy so i wanted to kill him. Herp derp cant killed certin characters. Idc if it breaks quests let me kill anyone i want wtf.
>>332139438
>tfw spend 75 hours in fallout 4 had decent fun
>read this thread and realize how retarded it was
>>332137392
Iv got a 137 hours in and this hasn't happened. Does reloading fix it?
>>332155608
i dont even see what went on in it
>>332155423
>>332155682
The fusion core is being deleted when he enters the power armor.
>current year
>>332141351
>mfw i can't build settlements that fill the entire world
i've got ~100k materials i could build an entire city if they let me
>>332136225
>>332151889
fucking dreamboy. I bet that faggot wanted to hae quests and other stupid hard shit for hte robot race track What a faggot. I'm glad todd beat him up in the mens bathroom.
DREAMBOYYYYY
>oh boy there's all of these cool weapons todd showed off that i can't wait to try
>there's maybe 10 base weapons in the entire game
>>332138941
>backtrack towards more complexity
>>332158979
>brag about your new shooting mechanics
>have barely any guns because you piece meal them out for dlc and enchant them like magic weapons
TODDDDDDDDDD
>>332148313
>>332148624
>>332149437
how the hell could you like Atom cats ? in the correct fallout lore you need training for power armors, and they were super scarce. I nuked them all on the first sight and pretend they never existed
>>332159216
>>332158979
>>332136225
Expectations !!!
The game looks fantastic and feels fantastic. Especially game world which is no longer rubble through green fallout 3 filter (which i actually liked) or brown shit fallout NV filter (which fits the game itself). Power armor finally feels like power armor and not like cardboard-cutout-bucket-knight. In short: ton of potential...
... which is squandered by shit plot hole story. Complete absence of rpg elements in rpg. And almost everything mentioned above.
It could have reach and exceed all expectations but it didnt.
>>332156296
Just get the mod that allows you to build everywhere or go to that island on the lower right of the map.
Alright I'm about to go through it again as I've been going through the whole series over the last 2 months. Just tell me one thing, can settlements FINALLY fucking defend themselves yet? It makes no sense that I can have an absurdly high defense rating in a town, but it only applies if I'm at the battle, otherwise the town gets curb-stomped somehow?
>>332161216
I expected this game to be piece of shit, but Instead I got aboring piece of shit.
Fallout 4 was fairly enjoyable. Easily worth the price for hours of enjoyment. It's buggy, but you do get fairly invested in your world and wandering is fun, even if you're just killing respawns.
The DLC is also amazing. Building a robot is great. I would buy that shit as its own game, but it's also pretty great here. Probably my favorite DLC since Blood Dragon.
>>332161818
You hoped for a nice surprise... you knew it will be shit (like fallout 3 story or NV as a whole) but you still hoped you were wrong
You were not.
>>332136225
It's a lot better than fallout 3 and most games that came out this year. Stop bitching.
>>332136225
It wasn't that bad as /v/ made it look like. But I miss the "Fallout" feel from it, I don't know, something about New Vegas/Fallout 3 had a very different serious dark feel to it. Fallout 4 feels like it was made for the Call of Duty audience/kids.
>>332161687
Defence rating needs to be higher than food + water rating, and it won't get attacked
If it does get attacked, if you just show up settlers become invincible.
It's completely fucked. Just spam guns in a corner and you won't have any issues
Robot DLC is really great.
Falout 4 might turn out fantastic once all the DLC is out.
It's not like either of the other Bethesda Fallout games were even half decent before they had a few pieces of DLC out.
>>332136225
I got about 60 hours from it, but desu once I hit the mission where you have to go to the green sea or whatever it was called, I basically rushed through it. The story didn't pull me in at all, and the settlements were fun at first but in the end started to just annoy me.
I will say that the companions were better than 3's though.
>>332162042
Thank god I expected New Vegas to be another Fallout 3 DLC. This game exceeded my expectations so much.
>>332162067
True.
But it had potential to be so much more. Rise above mediocrity and shit. It certainly aint game of a year but it could have been.
It should have rise the bar for next games not lower it.
>>332162241
>Falout 4 might turn out fantastic once all the DLC is out
>>332162428
To me NV felt like wild wild west so whenever i tried to roleplay i felt like space cowboy. The game is maybe good if you dont play it for fallout experience. Its just I never tried playing it like that.
>>332136419
I still love 4, but it has it's problems, mainly the lack of skills and the speech parts
>>332162241
>putting sprinkels on shit makes shit better
yeah ok bud
The game has good exploring though.
>find cabin
> find cpu
>cpu says there's locket in a lake
>in lake is a locket
>>332162241
Yeah, just like FO3 right?
>>332166525
Oblivion says hi.
the artstyle feels cartoony
>>332138815
Guns in real life can be like that
>>332139389
I hate how the only entertaining animations she had were from when she was talking at the gate.
>>332140431
>that fucking mag
>>332169509
What's wrong with the magazine?
>>332170852
Too much curve for 5.56
i thought it was fun
>>332170852
The curve does not match the shape of an actual magazine. It just bends randomly in the middle
>>332136225
The shitty writing was to be expected but trimming down the dialogue options ala-Bioware RPGs is just awful, it's a good game but it's not a Fallout game.
>>332140845
Whoever the fuck you are stop shilling your youtube channel on here and buy a pop filter. Seriously that shit is like ten buckaroos.
