Why isn't Guitar Hero 3 on Steam?
Is it a good game?
>>332110572
Why don't you just emulate it?
Guitar Hero is for underages or babbies.
Man up and get Rocksmith.
>>332110572
Best Guitar hero
>>332110724
The Wii version?
It need special controllers.
>>332110750
>Don't play this baby tier entry level rhythm game, play this OTHER baby tier entry level rhythm game.
DJ Hero and Amplitude are the only good western rhythm games.
>>332110572
I believe this one and World Tour on PC support custom songs, so it's decent because of that.
>>332110724
>Emulate a rhythm game.
>not just playing phase shift
>>332111340
What makes it superior to GH?Custom charts aren't a plus, they're neutral at best. There's no quality control and there's no backroom to decide what a good chart is or not. When there is, like Osu!, it's filled with retards.
>>332110750
Why do you think Rocksmith is for oldier people?
>>332110968
>>332111621
Because Rocksmith teaches you how to play a fucking instrument, while Guitar Hero is literally "smash randum buttans ecksdee"
>>332111621
It isn't? The fuck are you talking about?
>>332110793
Why?
>>332111750
I don't think you've ever played a rhythm game in your life if you think they're just "smash random buttons."
>>332110968
>DJ Hero and Amplitude are the only good western rhythm games.
Why?
>>332111875
And i don't think you've actually ever "played" Rocksmith, since that shit is all but a fucking game.
>>332111750
>thinks people play GH to learn guitar
>>332111941
>thinks emulating an instrument BUTTAANS XDDD is better than learning and playing an actual instrument
>>332111912
You're right, I forgot ITG.
Also, because they're some of the most creative games in the genre (western wise atleast) and are incredibly challenging, the staple of a good rhythm game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znjRpPlM1hs
Japan rules the market on rhythm games, tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrBSqRbkypI
>>332110572
Finding those stupid plastic guitars became a bitch when the genre tanked.
>>332111340
> not just playing Super Crazy Guitar Maniac
>>332112052
Yes, because learning an instrument isn't as exhilarating, fun, and doesn't allow you to ascend the astral plane, much like hardcore rhythm games do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUyXTIl599g
>>332112220
>learning an instrument isn't as exhilarating
>doesn't allow you to ascend the astral plane, much like hardcore rhythm games do
...What?
>>332111047
Custom songs on Wii?
Like, by SD card?
>>332111340
I don't know what this is.
>>332111750
>Rocksmith teaches you how to play a fucking instrument
How is this?
>>332112373
I could not explain it without it sounding like a joke.
Just know that without practice, learning an instrument is much easier than playing this, and successfully playing this allows you to mentally reach a greater feeling and awareness ofthe entire universe.
I doubt a pleb like you would know, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5abY1vxXGn0
>>332112373
There's a reason why chinks spend hundreds of thousands of dollars just to git gud at IIDX, it's like a drug.
I never understood why people have this idea that Rocksmith is "better" than GH when they're two different things. Just because it uses an instrument as a peripheral doesn't mean it's trying to emulate playing it.
>>332112668
>>332112827
Yeah, eat shit, millions of flies can't be wrong.
Fucking casuals, either you pick an instruments and learn it or you can fuck off with your "games" and your "universe" bullshit.
>>332113486
>Calls me casual
>When you couldn't pass a single level 12 IIDX song in your entire life.
Yeah, okay bub.
>>332113318
It is mainly a /mu/ meme, where videogames are for children and "programs" mischievously presented as games that teach you how to do stuff, especially music stuff, are something good.
>>332110572
Reminder that this exists
https://www.fig.co/campaigns/rock-band-4-pc
>1.5 GORILLION DORRUS
>>332112663
It uses a real guitar, with tab provided by the bands themselves. It's pretty excellent for that, and there's some good games built into it for technique learning, but it's kind of flawed in picking up some techniques, bends in particular are annoying on it.
It's a good way to start off, but it won't really help you write songs or become a musician.
>>332113564
>hurr i'm more hardcore than you because i press buttaaaanss xDD
Yeah buddy, you're right.
Have fun with your toddler stuff.
GH3 has an official PC release
and it's very, very custom content friendly
>>332113756
Go on, do it then if it's so toddlercore.
>>332113756
Please put on a tripcode so I can filter you.
>>332111489
I dunno, you can find most songs for it, and theyre charted pretty well IMO
>>332112548
Custom Guitar hero/RB game. Works with any USB guitar controller and you can download songs for free
>>332113821
Sure, i could also learn how to shitpost very fast or how to bash a fucking rock against another rock at 560bpm, but that ain't gonna make me any less a casual compared to people who play actual music.
>>332113642
>with tab provided by the bands themselves
Wrong
>>332110750
Or you could try learning to actually play guitar you fuck.
These games are retarded cancer
>>332113942
But.. that actually would make you less casual.
>>332114000
I can play actual guitar and I still like the GH/RB games
maybe you need to calm down
>>332114074
No man you don't understand. It's impossible to be able to do both.
>>332114074
Maybe you need to kill urself
>>332113914
>being this buttmad
Why don't you put one of these dance platforms under your feet so you'll have an actual reason to smash 'em in rage?
>>332114000
>These games are retarded cancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yqw-vB9XAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygF29U41rhA
>>332113987
I could have sworn I remember the devs saying that's what they did, do you have proof to the contrary though? I can't imagine bands letting them use the licensing to their songs if they're just going to get it wrong.
>>332114000
I play guitar in a relatively successful local band, and Rocksmith is still fun my dude, music isn't some super serious club you're in.
It's a good way to learn a song without just sitting in front of a piece of tab for an hour, or spending fucking ages trying to figure it out by ear. Sometimes you just want to chill and learn something new, and Rocksmith does a good job at that.
>>332114227
what a well adjusted and not assmad answer
>>332114260
I'm mad because you're not expressing any form of reason or logic, just fallacies and emotions. That shit boils my blood, so please put on a trip code so I can filter you, or grow up.
>>332110572
It's probably the worst one. If you really like arcade style gameplay it has guitar battles where you can fuck with your opponent by picking up items that can, for example, swap their buttons around. But outside of that it's the worst one by a mile and the people behind the first two games had nothing to do with it since they abandoned ship and worked on Rock Band instead
>>332113635
>one of the backer rewards is dinner with Mr 3.3 himself
Would anyone pay the money to call him an asshole to his face?
what is up with the rocksmith autists?
no one plays rhythm games to fucking pretend they're playing real instruments
>>332114000
But Rock Smith is a learning tool for brand new guitarists to learn the actual guitar...
>>332114492
>pretend they're playing real instruments
I mean, you are playing a real instrument in Rocksmith. But yeah, it's not the same sort of game as GH or that style, and it's not really fair to compare the two.
>>332114353
>being THIS fucking buttmad
Pic related, this is your target audience.
>>332113642
>bends
>bends
>FUCKING BENDS
That's triggered me hard. Fucking bends. That one minigame with the bends is literally impossible if it can't pick it up from your guitar accurately.
I'm bending the damn string game. I'm doing it slow, now I'm doing it quick, why won't you detect the fucking bend eh?
Now I have to retune as well? Shit.
>>332114281
Pressing buttons does not talent make sorry you gotta be 18 to post here.
>>332114761
He looks like he's ascended.
>>332110572
I was just going to make this thread yesterday holy shit
>>332114767
Or more accurately, the game doesn't explain the concepts of overbending and underbending, so all these mouthbreathing retards like you who wonder why aren't they nailing the fucking bends are always the first to complain about "muh bends" on that fucking game.
>>332114818
>strings
>buttons
>>332114821
>keeps using the word ascended unironically
stop
>>332114991
You would understand if you weren't such a plebeian. You probably descend on cock 24/7.
>>332114697
It's always the Rocksmith players who come in and say "why don't you just learn to play real guitar bro???". People who play Guitar Hero and Rock Band don't think they're actually playing guitar or whatever. It's all about pressing buttons and trying get high scores and FCs on difficult charts.
Can we all agree that Guitar Hero 3 had a GOAT ending?Instead of just shitposting about Rocksmith
>>332115102
But it's virtually pointless.
Just learn how play a fucking guitar, you dumb idiot.
>>332114767
It's not even about whether you're bending it correctly, it's that the game will only recognise the bend if you hit the normal note first, and then bend up, which becomes incredibly difficult to do seeing as the recognition isn't always the best.
Whereas if you're actually playing a song, normally you hit the note and bend it instantly, which rocksmith doesn't let you do.
>>332114903
It's got nothing to do with overbending or underbending though, it's literally a detection issue on the part of the game. Though it could do a better job at explaining how you tell how far to bend, and when you'ev gone too far.
>>332114310
>>332114563
See
>>332114818
It doesnt gh is just the cod of rythm games for 15 year olds and there shitty monster energy drink gamer culture.
>>332114381
Care to give reasons as to why it's the worst other than it wasn't made by the original creators?
>>332115193
It has, actually, as the note detection technique works on a pitch based program made by those hotheads devs.
Overbending\underbending\bending too fast makes the script to fail, hence why the detection sucks.
>>332110572
2>1>>>>>>>3
>>332115184
so is every video game
why are you on a video game board if you deride people for playing video games?
>>332115102
Yeah, that's just people being autistic and feeling like they're better because they can play most of the beginner songs in rocksmith and feel like rockstars or whatever.
Guitar Hero is perfectly fine for just fucking around, and there's a hell of a lot less dedication required to enjoy it.
>>332115195
Do you know what rocksmith actually is? You know you use a real guitar in it, right? You're not just pressing buttons, you're literally playing a guitar.
Is this supposed to be bait?
>>332115184
>learn how play a fucking guitar
But it's virtually pointless.
>Rocksmith
Fuck off with this garbage if I wanted to learn how to play actual guitar I would go ahead and do it but I don't so let me play rhythm games in peace.
>>332114310
Considering that I have played both versions (while pirating all the DLC on the first one, some reason I couldn't manage to get the DLC pirated on the 2014 version) and have purchased the Disc Import tool (along with the fact that the DLC you buy from the first game transfers over to the 2014 game) to play RS1 songs on 2014 there are already immediate differences between the way the songs are played in between the two versions tells me that what you said is false. If you also keep up with the Devs on the forums they do mention that they have guitar transcribers who figure out how most of the songs are played. Also in few of the songs if you play by ear and not exactly how the notes are shown on the screen (ie. pressing down on a fret of the same note instead of using an open string such as in Blister in the Sun by Violent Femmes) you'll begin to notice a pattern that QA
wasn't in the highest tier of production.
Oh and Marc Bolan was totally alive long enough to mention to Ubisoft that 20th Century Boy was tuned differently when they tried to update the song for the 2014 version.
>>332115335
Sure, it's shit at picking up anything but bends done specifically how it means them to be done, and just refuses to think you did one at all if it's not perfect, but I was referring to when it even knows you're trying to do a bend.
You can pull it off perfectly, but as you said, if you do it too quick, and it doesn't realise you hit the normal note first, it just never recognises.
>>332115184
but Ive already done that
>>332115561
This. I just wanted a comfy Guitar heroor Rock Bandthread.
>rhythm games
Why would anyone play rhythm games when you could play an instrument?
>>332115550
It is not.
Playing games is useless.
Learning how to play an instrument could give you a job.
>>332115510
Gh and rh are and where just a dumb fad to sell over priced periphals to appeal to a stupid audience and cater to a stupid audience by pandering to them with a simplistic game. Gh started the fad rocksmith was just a attempt to get in on the fads money. You get enough autistic teenagers to follow something it becomes popular by proxy.
>>332115815
>Learning how to play an instrument could give you a job.
Mate, I think u are a fucking piece of shit like fucking eating gluten free like fyck fucskj what u fukn idoing m89
>>332115335
Is this why it has trouble picking up the low E notes sometimes as well? (Even though I literally just tuned it with the game)
Genuinely curious here. My guitar is a hand-me-down so I can't complain about something I got for free, but I think somethings a bit off with it.
(Or I'm just plain awful. Wouldnt rule it out)
>>332115305
Not that anon but:
>timing window was waaaay wider than the other games, almost making a sense of rhythm pointless
>charts became overly ridiculous and hard for no reason, Before I Forget and that french bonus song coming to mind
>Battle mode is unbalanced garbage if both players don't play on the same difficultyI still don't think it's the worst in the series, I'd say GH:A is worse if that counts.
>mfw another GH thread ruined by rocksmith fags
Fucking normies.
>>332115950
No, probably issues with the cable\microphone volume.
The tuner is exquisitely well made, the pitch detection sucks.
>>332115742
Why would someone play GTA when they could find and murder real prostitutes?
>>332115880
Oh, you were trying to bait. 0/10 anon, you just look retarded.
>>332115901
I mean, you can definitely pull in some extra cash from gigging if you aren't shit.
>>332115950
Are you using the official cable? Sometimes you need to manually turn up the volume of the input if you're using a 3rd party cable, otherwise it won't pick up a lot of notes.
I doubt it's your guitar, though I'd try it through an amp and see if it's actually sounding notes through that as well.
>>332116304
Yeah, why?
rhythm games have nothing to do with playing real instruments. no one plays them as substitution for real instruments. why don't autists get this
>tfw I backed the Rock Band 4 PC port crowdfunding
Music for this feel?
>>332115901
And not even just that, but even mad pussy too.
Chicks dig guitarists.Alternative ones, not fat greasy metalheads
>>332112112
>became a bitch
?
>>332116494
>2500 dollars to push randum buttans
>>332116345
Yo..your just b..b...baiting
Nice parroted responce you sure proved me wrong.
>>332112195
>Super Crazy Guitar Maniac
I don't even know this game.
itt
>why are you hitting nails on the head with a hammer?
>because it's fun
>but you're not building anything, why don't you just learn how to build something like a desk or-
>FUCK YOU I'M HAVING FUN YOU FUCKING FAGGOT FUCK OFF YOU BUILDERSMITH CUNT SEE I'M HAVING FUN I'M HAVING FUCKING FUN FUCK YOU LEAVE ME ALONE
>>332116494
>10 days left
>barely hit 1/3 of the total goal
They're fucking doomed.
Also when the fuck is porting the game cost 1,5 million?
>>332116923
since when israeli orphans need a home
>>332115372
Metallica > 5 > 2 > Smash Hits > 3 > World Tour > Aerosmith > 1 > Band Hero > Van Halen
GH5 would have been GOAT if the setlist didn't have every fucking genre on it
>>332116923
Valve should just fucking buy Harmonix and sell music through Steam and let steam workshop do the note tracking for a badge or something like they do for translations.
>>332116151
Thanks for that.
It's weird because I followed the guide to a tee, (several times in fact), and for the life of me I could get every note to detect fine (tested it all myself), except for the first few frets on the low E string.
The game only would pick them up about 50% of the time. Even changing the guitars dial settings didn't help either.
I did pick up the PS3 version of 2014 on the cheap with an extra cable so I might try a new cable and see if it helps. (And try the PS3 version as well and see if it's a compatibility issues with my PC)
Guitar is fine in an amp which is what makes it weird. I turned the volume right up in settings on PC and game with no change. Official cable too.
>>332115901
A lot of Vocaloid and Youtube composers go pro from the exposure and fanbase.
Freaking Justin Bieber is from Youtube for Pete's sake.
>>332116037
GH fans are the normies of music games though?
>>332116791
>I AM SILLY analogy that equalizes visual/audio entertainment with purely repetitive actions.
>>332116791
>b-but I just want to have fun.
Because playing an instrument is so fucking boring am I right? Besides I had friends buying those crappy plastic instruments all the time, a bass of guitar can last you a lifetime.
https://youtu.be/cMI2MziaqFU?t=13
>>332117198
>3 (You)s
This thread is great.
>>332115931
Don't you have other drunken autistic retards to extort and exploit and families to rape?
>>332116393
someone never played rock band 4 with pro drums on expert difficulty
literally the same as playing an electric drumset along to a song and its how I learned songs when I was in a shitty bar band in college
>>332116671
Well, I mean, when you're claiming rocksmith is just pressing buttons when it's objectively not, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're baiting instead of just clinically retarded.
>https://www.fig.co/campaigns/rock-band-4-pc#about
I backed this shit.
>10 days left
>34% of goal
This shit isn't going to get funded, is it?
>>332117089
Where is Warriors of Rock? That one is GOATAY
>>332117596
I think your just overly assmad.
Isn't Rocksmith on sale right now? Best money ever spent on a game, doesn't leave with a guilty feeling of wasted time after I'm finished playing it.
>>332113635
What is the problem?
>rocksmith
Have fun sounding like a robot when you play.
>>332117791
where's this? its $10 on steam
>>332117778
I don't know why you'd think that, but I guess you're entitled to.
>>332117673
The 'story mode' was kind of shit but WoR was a great game, I agree. Like GH5 but with a more concise setlist.
I loved it at launch but never really felt motivated to play it that much since.
>>332117791
Yeah but you need the cable, which is 25 dollars alone.
>>332117650
I was really close to buy a console to try pro keys. Why can't they port RB3 instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltKFv68Zw0A
>>332117548
Did they ever patch RB4 so drums are playable? I remember picking it up and none of the notes would register properly to the point I couldn't pass songs on easy. This is coming from somebody that can 95% shit like 21st Century Schizoid Man on expert.
>>332117791
>>332117898
>Cable not included
>>332117872
>implying you don't develop your own style by playing shit
>>332117898
Funstockdigital.
>>332118063
Post vocaroo, bitch. I bet you sound like ass.
>>332118012
>>332117958
>>332117937
Right next to 3 and above 5, it's my most played. Probably because you could import songs from 5 and I think smash hits to it so it had incredible replayability just on replaying songs.3 will always have the best story mode, as simplistic as it was.
>>332117958
You can just use a third party cable, which are much cheaper.
Them forcing you to use their cable was a terrible business decision though, like, who thought that would be a good idea, as soon as they stop providing them, their game would die.
The cables aren't easy to buy on their own in a lot of places either.
>>332118237
Now that's a good one, yeah that would work too, but you'll get some insane amount of input lag by using that kind of jack.
>>332113642
OK, but so it's not a game, is a interactive training.
>>332118392
Just use any 3rd party 1/4" jack to usb cable, you can buy them online for pretty cheap.
>>332118392
Played for months using a setup like that, worked just fine. The proprietary cable cost the same as similar guitar interfaces.
>>332118538
>>332118567
I used a recycled jack until i was forced to buy the retarded Original® ubisoft approved cable.
The input lag was way too fucking much, notes came almost half a fucking bar later.
I like how people are saying to play Rocksmith to "LURN REAL GEETAR" when they're just basically reading visual tabs.
Tabs do not make you a real musician, learning theory does.
>>332113794
But why isn't it on Steam?????
>>332118723
Its a start and its less than $10.
>>332118723
>playing music doesnt make you a musician
WEW
E
W
>>332113921
>Works with any USB guitar controller
Should I buy one?
>>332110572
Because digitally distributing a game that revolves entirely around a specific peripheral (especially one they don't sell anymore) doesn't really make any sense.
>>332110724
It has a PC version.
>>332118723
>learning theory makes you a musician
LAUGH AT THIS FAGGOT, LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
>>332118723
Where can you learn theory for free/on the cheap?
No seriously. I'd like to know. (Do we have a guide/bunch of books like the art area does?)
>>332118863
Reading tabs is like finishing a page of a coloring book and then calling yourself a "artist"
>>332118685
I don't know what to tell you man, I used a 3rd party cable and never really had any issues with lag, worst issue I had was that I had to manually turn the sound up everytime I started the game.
>>332118723
You can play rocksmith and literally learn the notes on the neck and a couple scales and be a competent musician. There's been plenty of musicians that barely even had that.
You can't just go
>Sure, you're playing an instrument, but unless you play it my way, you're not really able to play the instrument
A musician is just someone who is making their own music, which you barely need any theory to do if you've got a good ear.
>>332118723
Here comes the "learning theory" asshole!
Rocksmith is as effective as playing the drums on RB/GH.
>>332119037
yes, clearly learning how to play songs is completely pointless in learning how to play songs
>>332118723
>learning theory does
Idiot.
>>332118723
But its FUN! You can keep you deals with the Disney channel and stuff, I'll be having fun over here.See? Works both ways.
>game starts off pretty well
>yurope section is complete fucking garbage
>>332118723
Of course the thread couldn't be complete without the "learn theory" asshole.
We fucking /mu/ now.
>>332119020
Do you not know how to google your question retard?
>>332118000
you probably have to calibrate them...it is fucking annoying that you have to do it whenever you change the tv its played on but once you do that, there usually isn't any problems
>>332119020
Public conservatory.
>>332119125
But you're just "playing" the song and that's it. You don't understand the key of the song, the scales, rhythms, or why the song works. You're basically taking music as it is on a paper, reading it like some robot, and outputting sound.
WOW
>>332119420
Lou Reed wrote Metal machine Music stoned off of his ass and he cant remember half of the compositional process
>>332119210
>Paranoid
>Anarchy in the U.K.
>Kool Thing
>My Name Is Jonas
At least Even Flow as an encore made up for it.
>>332119298
I did and that didn't fix a thing. I also hooked it up to my computer monitor, which has absolutely no lag for anything else, and still got the problem.
>>332110572
because they don't make the utensils anymore halfwit moron
its also the deadest of the dead genres
>>332119253
That's a little unfair anon.
Randomly googling shit doesn't mean you get stuff that's tried and tested and is quite helpful to people in practice.
I was just hoping this place had a nice compilation handy. It's good to have something handy to read during moments of downtime.
>>332119345
Thanks I'll look into it.
>>332118723
>Playing music doesn't make you a real musician
>learning theory does
I'm not even a Rocksmith faggot.
>>332112095
I watched the DJ Hero video you posted. I have not liked the music. I don't liked the player:DOLCE too, and though it is too hard to play.
>>332119973
I warn you, music theory isn't going to make you a musician.
People who have been studying music theory for years and are now flipping burgers are always butthurt at famous musicians and singers who can barely write a triplet of notes on a sheet and are more popular and succesfull that they will ever be.
To make good music is all about having a good ear.
>>332112220
I watched the video.
The game seems hard, unfunny and the "music" is just noise.
>>332119210
>Tier 6
>best venue in the game
>worst setlist in career
>>332112668
This is a good music.
But doesn't seems funny to play.
>>332120153
Anon please. I have no sense of grandeur. I just have a interest in music and I know it's something you work on over time like a craft, something you get a feel for, but I also want to learn more about the ins and outs of it.
Hell I'm reading a book on art about perspective drawing and I find the technical shit about vanishing points, and eye lines kind of fascinating.
Like learning to use a Linux command line. It's different enough to be interesting and memorable with potential application.
>>332120336
>>332121078
What the fuck does it mean to be "funny" to play?
>>332121317
It means this anon doesn't know how to English.
>>332112095
For people who haven't seen this game before, I'd also like to point out that the perfect timing window is only two frames and any notes hit outside the highest two accuracy windows are worth zero points
IIDX is some pretty serious shit but it's got the most depth and replayability of all the rhythm games
>>332120067
>IIDX is too hard to play
It's a primary reason why IIDX is so good.
Well, I'm posting in this thread, so while I'm here:
- I consider IIDX to be an instrument. Press key, get sound. Can't say the same of many other music games.
- I really shouldn't be surprised, but I honestly am still surprised how a decade - repeat, a decade - after these games hit mainstream in the US, there's still an instant and constant "learn a real instrument faggot" discussion in every music game thread. Every time. Every single time.
- Learning an instrument doesn't endow improvisational skill. If you don't have an ear for music, no amount of reading tabs or sheet music will get you to play an instrument as any other professional musician does.
>>332110572
Torrent the PC version and get GHTCP for custom songs
>>332122768
All that gookclick is just muscle memory, its as impresive as touchtyping.
>>332115880
ROCK SMITH
ROCK SMITH
ROCK FUCKING SMITH
NOT ROCK BAND
ROCK SMITH YOU COCKSUCKER
ITS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME
PLEASE BE BAITING ME. OH, YOU'RE BAITING,. CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GOT ME, IM MAD. NOW WHAT, FAGGOT? NOW IM MAD. IM MAD FOR 5 MINUTES. YOU'RE STILL A FUCKING RETARD WHO HAS TO LIVE WITH HIMSELF DAY IN AND DAY OUT. ID FUCKING KILL MYSELF IF I HAD TO BE YOU FOR 15 MINUTES. IT WOULD BE LESS FUCKING TORTUROUS TO JUST OFF MYSELF THAN TO LIVE THE WAY THAT YOU DO FOR EVEN A SECOND.
>>332123621
Don't argue with toddlers man, it's useless.
>>332114281
Both musics are good. Are all the music of this game good as these?
But I can't understand... Why play the game, when you can just play the guitar?
>100.7%
What does that mean?
>>332124960
>music of this game
The pc edition has custom songs support.
http://customsforge.com/
Have fun.
>>332111621
Because you play dadrock with the guitar of your father with it.
>>332125352
>using the term DadRock unironically
>>>/mu/
>>332125449
>listening to dadrock
>>>/reddit.com/music
>>332124960
>Why play the game, when you can just play the guitar?
And get backing tracks, an amp, some tablature, some pedal effects or just Rocksmith which costs less than $10.
>no model rip of judy nails ever
>>332111621
https://youtu.be/xNeR_JMqUnc?t=43
>>332124960
>What does that mean?
You can 110% songs by playing robotically, that's why people often judge that game a pile of shit because it teaches you how play like a robot and not how to play by passion.
>>332111750
I mean, it's not a great teacher or anything since it's incapable of judging proper guitar techniques but it'll teach you some songs for sure.
>>332125857
How would you program an algorithm that quantifies "passion", anon?
Or were you just spouting retarded uneducated shit for the sake of it?
>playing good is playing robotically
Fuck you and your kind.
>>332112668
Learning an instrument proper it's at least a 5 year commitment. You can probably creep your way to Another in IIDX in like 6 months.
>>332125795
Oh god not this fucking gook again.
This girl gets shilled a lot, jesus fucking christ.And she's better than me, fucking PISS SHIT CUNT NIGGER
>>332125857
>>332124960
You can get 110% by enabling master mode and playing without tabs, but still some visual cues.
https://youtu.be/75YHga7rFlA?t=9
>>332126074
It took me 1 year to master playing guitar and 3 years to simply beat a level 12 on IIDX
>>332124940
Who's arguing?
>>332123621
Is there any kind of dexterity-timing activity which doesn't invoke muscle memory? Even beyond video games. Hitting a baseball. Fencing. Anything?
If it requires precise timing to achieve a desired result, any kind of training develops muscle memory, doesn't it? Or no?
>>332124960
Because, as I stated earlier, learning how to play the guitar doesn't mean that you have the ability to make your own music with it as an improvisational musician can. If you do not have that talent, you cannot learn it.
>>332126212
>It took me 1 year to master playing guitar
Learning "Stairway to Heaven" isn't mastering guitar anon.
>>332126028
Get mad all you want, you will still sound like a robot.
>>332126212
>1 year to master playing guitar
Can you detect a major sixth from a perfect octave and spot it on the fretboard?
>>332126210
Which is playing robotically, as you're basically following a pre-built tab and not adding any personal style\vibe\passion\crap on it.
>>332126074
>creep your way to Another in IIDX
The Normal/Hyper/Another categories don't directly dictate song difficulty, and I'm pretty sure you already know that.
>>332126421
>Can you detect a major sixth from a perfect octave and spot it on the fretboard?
....what?
>>332126573
You do know your music intervals, right anon? I mean, since you're such versed on guitar playing.
>>332126456
>style\vibe\passion\crap
You can though. Game doesn't penalize extra notes and you can always add some flair with bends, vibratos or whatever you want. You can also choose any other effect pedal if you just want to sound different.
>>332122768
Well, the IIDX controller is a sampler that changes the samples on the fly which I always thought was really cool.
>>332110750
Rocksmith is shit and you have to pay to get good songs, guitar hero also takes more skill than rocksmith.
>>332126350
And you'll still sound like a tryhard faggot that can't play for shit but thinks he's fooling everyone with his "style".
>>332126681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP8glmigsbE
>>332126825
Basically yeah.
But my view of it as an instrument is something I generally keep to myself.
I've played saxophones in grade school and high school bands so I'm quite aware of how an actual instrument works - and I'm also quite aware that my playing a saxophone and learning how to do so with sheet music did absolutely nothing to engender any kind of improvisational talent within me. Because there is none there.
I "knew" how to play a saxophone but I wouldn't dare call myself a saxophone player, because I was as useless as a corpse without sheet music.
This is the main aspect which I find humorous about the argument. "Learning" doesn't mean a fucking thing. Not a fucking thing.
>>332126834
>guitar hero also takes more skill than rocksmith.
Eventually guitar or bass just makes sense, while on GH or RB you're stuck learning songs individually because the "tabs" were pulled out of the ass of those note trackers and they have 5 buttons to begin with.
>>332126990
10/10 video
>>332116923
That was how the Amplitude remake's Kickstarter was, but they somehow worked a miracle and got it funded.
>>332126834
>guitar hero also takes more skill than rocksmith.
lmao
I may believe the IIDX guy and I still have my reservations, but I was able to play stuff like Play With Me and Through the Fire and Flames on expert in fucking months. Guitar Hero is easy peasy.
I mean, the problem with rhythm games is that they can only throw so many patterns at you, especially one as old as IIDX. Eventually you'll memorize and recognize clusters and, provided they don't throw bullshit like increasing the BPM to something only the fucking Flash can see, you'll manage to beat most songs with just a bit of practice.
>>332126834
>Rocksmith is shit and you have to pay to get good songs
http://ignition.customsforge.com/
>>332126681
I have no idea what you're talking about, i'm sorry.
I want to buy a guitar for rocksmith but it seems like I am just going to get a piece of shit for under $200, and that's a lot of cash to blow on something that 90% of people probably fuck around with for 2 weeks then quit.
>>332127224
Why do you think improvisation is the defining aspect of a musician?
The act of a musician is making music, improvisation most times is just running scales and arpeggios over a known harmonic progression, it's not the most important skill to have (well, if you're not playing jazz).
>>332127654
Get a job.
>>332127472
>TTFAF in GH
>TTFAF in RB
>>332126917
I appreciate a well-placed tempo rubato and staccato as much as the next guy.
>>332127654
For that money you can get a Yamaha Pacifica I think.
They're okay for their price.
>>332127693
Because sometimes you make music out of arpeggios and scales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_IYe5JTZ4
>>332127693
>The act of a musician is making music
I'd wager that if something like improvising escapes you, then you probably have trouble actually writing music. And you are saying that the act of a musician is making music, not reproducing it, so writing it must be pretty fucking important, maybe.
>>332126917
>aka you get mad pussy but you're not musically enriched as me!!
>h-ha!1 f-faggot!
>>332127224
> because I was as useless as a corpse without sheet music.
>"Learning" doesn't mean a fucking thing. Not a fucking thing.
So yeah, lets just spend years learning a piece of plastic that doesn't even work without a console and a TV! But they its really hardcore, here have some vids of some autist azns to prove my point.
More power to you, keep it real.
>>332127654
Buy a squire and pretend it's a fender BAM. A decent entry-level squire will go for like 300 buckaroonies. Even cheaper if you buy used.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with buying entry-level equipment.
>>332127697
I have one but I have other hobbies that take plenty of my extra money.
>>332127654
Get a used one, ask friends and family if they have one. Whatever you do, get it set up by someone if you don't know how to do it, bad intonation and shit like fret buzz will make you fight your instrument while trying to learn music.
>>332127654
Have you considered a bass? Shits fun.
https://youtu.be/swxI9as2T_s?t=10
>>332128498
>not playing both
It's like you're not even trying.I've stopped playing guitar over a bass.
Can't fucking stump the funk, m8.
>>332114381
Why they abandoned Guitar Hero?
>>332128040
>Even if you're completely devoid of musical talent, you should continuously fail at trying to develop it anyway, because that's definitely and objectively less of a waste of time than playing a video game.
Yes sir.
>>332114393
>Mr 3.3
Who is he?
>>332128872
Activision picked it up, and Harmonix went to do Rock Band, are you even reading?
>>332128908
>talent
Thats not how stuff works. If you're not enjoying yourself though you're right don't try.
>>332128589
>get rocksmith and guitar
>wow this is really great
>get bass
>suck at bass
>collects dust for months
>try bass with a pick
I too have stopped giving guitar attention, but I still intent to play both andpiano.
>>332127830
Yngwie Malmsteen isn't a particular strong case of a guitarist known for it's improvisational skills, although I might be wrong.
>>332127995
I don't feel like it, I've been playing jazz for years now, and although improvisation is often defined as "composing music on the spot" I find it very different to actual composition.
When improvising you're working under a strict set of rules: the harmonic progression of the song, sure, you can make whatever you want inside it, and you can even go outside it with chromatisms and stuff, but generally speaking, the amount of things you can do are limited.
I find it very different to actual composition, where you're free to make music whatever way you like, it's like making something thinking ahead versus just going with whatever pops in your mind at the moment thinking inside a specific frame, sure, you're both times "composing" music in the sense that you're making a genuine artistic expression that comes out of yourself, but the process is very different.
If you can't improvise or come up with music of your own in any way, then you're no musician that I agree with, but I find in the end it's a pretty useless definition because I find it hard to believe that someone exists that can doodle with an instrument and find a combination of sounds that they like.
>>332114492
People pretend, yes!
>>332129432
we had this, but for nes. i was too young to understand any if it, but i remember trying to play it.
>>332129703
Its just the custom image I use for synthesia on Steam, my stand broke and my piano is on the floor though, I'm going to put it in its box until I buy a quality stand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WolqGAgiolM
>>332130063
I literally don't understand how people have such independent movement of individual fingers. Maybe I am deformed or something.
>>332118991
but you can get Rocksmith on Steam lol.
FUCK ALL OF YOU
I MADE SIMPLE QUESTIONS
LOOK AT THIS THREAD
ALL THIS SHITSTORM
FUCKK
>>332118991
>revolves entirely around a specific peripheral
Which peripheral? The plastic guitar toy?
>>332119825
>the utensils
See:
>>332131738
>>332121317
Games must be funny.
>>332122823
>GHTCP
???
>Torrent the PC version
Why? The games requires the plastic guitar toys to be played. At least on Wii...
>>332125795
I can't understand if they are playing right or wrong.
>>332132048
PC version can be played with a keyboard
>>332131519
I'm out of this thread.
All of you ruined it.
Fuck.
>>332132936
>>332132048
Or with a RB 4 guitar... right?
>>332131519
>>332133025
Don't forget to get Rocksmith 2014, its on sale for $10 on Steam right now.
>>332112052
i dont play video games to learn shit, the fuck do you think I am?
>>332130983
lots of practice. not that hard to understand.
>>332119634
the fuck are you talking about? the blue album and nevermind the bollocks, heres the sex pistols are good ass albums with good ass songs including those
>>332133161
x360 guitar hero controllers work for the game as well, as for rock band controllers, you're gonna have to find out yourself
