Why is there so much misconception about sega Saturn emulation? SSF can literally play everything on /v/ recommended sega Saturn games.
Nights runs at like 8 FPS and Radiant silvergun was practically a slideshow when I played it
>>332107107
More than having a misconception it's that only a few people care about it
It was like this ten years ago, I really have no idea.
Does it run Radiant Silvergun with no problems whatsoever without needing a super computer?
>>332107107
>actually wanting to emulate the Saturn
>load up game
>black lines across the screen
>scanlines are already off
>turn off many settings
>still there
>cant get rid of them
its shit. Shame it cant go open source due to the fact it contains actual sega shit in it.
>but it can play everything in this list
n64 emulation runs some games fine, doesnt mean as a whole its good
For the love of god someone tell me what Sega Saturn game this is because I know I'm not imagining it.
Once upon a time I remember seeing footage of a Sega Saturn game where you were a mech swimming around in a human body, I remember the mech was like red or something, and I know there was a map or something in the corner that showed a polygonal layout of valves and shit all around you.
I remember I saw a video of it years ago, but could never find it, and I would like to because I'm fascinated by games with that concept.
I have literally never heard any misconceptions about saturn emulation, I can only asssume this is a lazy bait to get people to respond
Google it.
>>332107290
Nights has plenty of ports though.
>>332107107
I'd be interested in hearing about how everything else runs anyway, Saturn is like hidden gems central.
>>332107290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHJUAHv-xQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jxEc9XDIdY
>>332107536
yes
>>332107638
fuck yea Saturn is awesome
Because you have to install adware to use it.
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/SSF#Free_Virtual_Drive_Software
>>332107107
Because Saturn emulation was pretty shit for a very long time.
>>332107540
>he's a pleb that doesn't yet know Japanese Saturn had the best gaming library of the fifth gen
>>332107290
literally played those on a toaster ages ago
>>332107613
Sounds a bit like Microcosm, but that wasn't a Saturn game.
>>332107107
>Why is there so much misconception about sega Saturn emulation?
Because today emulation means playing old vidya on your phone, or using the latest hipster meme crt filter frontend.
No emulator for android means that the console is emulated like SHIT, even though SSF could max out Radiant Silvergun, Nights, Fighters Megamix and Panzer Dragoon Saga back in 2006.
People hate SSF because it's closed source, only works with either burnt discs or daemontools, rarely gets updated, and doesn't like quad core systems or Nvidya GPU's. Yabause, when it gets better compatibility, will be the GOAT Saturn emulator.
SSF is better with perfect emulation accuracy but it fails in its ability to expand resolution so games look like shit
I rather use yabuse
I love Sega Saturn-san!
>>332109921
Oh, I didn't think about that one. No, sorry. Not that. It was a full 3D game and you could see your mech.
I drew a really shitty pic of trying to pic my brain from about five years ago. I know for sure it was on Saturn and only in Japanese, but that's it.
>>332110261
>Yabause, when it gets better compatibility, will be the GOAT Saturn emulator.
>when
>>332110261
oh yeah i forgot about that. I hate having to mount each game to play it. I wish yabuse will one day have SSF-like accuracy in emulation.
>>332107613
Lifescape 2 Body Bionics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pfDH6nxBLQ
and I seriously never have seen that game in action ever, but your description just sounded like how a game with this title should play like.
>>332110261
Actually, Windows 10 can simulate virtual disk drives with ISOs now.
All these games worked well on SSF outside of some graphical imperfections.
>>332109637
wanting to emulate anything ever. Just buy the console and a nice cozy CRT.
>>332110261
>only works with either burnt discs or daemontools
You have to be stupid to hate an emulator for that, especially once you looked into the clusterfuck that is supporting cd images (there are a billion formats out there, even bin/cue has 1001 things to support).
>and doesn't like quad core systems
I've used it with dual, quad, and hexa core systems, and it always worked fine.
>or Nvidya GPU's
... that's a new one to me.
>Yabause, when it gets better compatibility,
So basically: never.
>>332109637
There isn't a single game on the Saturn to care about outside of Panzer Dragoon.
>>332110936
shutup faggot go play cowadooty
>>332110523
>>332110418
>>332109921
RIGHT HERE
HOLY SHIT BROTHER THANK YOU I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY
Now to learn how to get a Saturn emulator running
>>332107107
No one cares about Saturn emulation because no worthwhile Saturn games got eng translation.
And people who can into moonrunes are too busy to give a fuck about lackluster emulator(s).
>>332110984
>Thinking a Panzer Dragoon fan would give a shit about cowadoody
Nice non-argument though.
>>332110936
>There isn't a single game on the Saturn to care about outside of Panzer Dragoon.
On top of Panzer Dragoon (3 games on the console), it also had all the best ports of almost every relevant fighting game and shmup between 1994-1998.
>>332110913
>You have to be stupid to hate an emulator for that, especially once you looked into the clusterfuck that is supporting cd images (there are a billion formats out there, even bin/cue has 1001 things to support).
The SSF dev should've gone with libre mounting software instead of chinese spyware.
>misconception
I imagine you're the same kind of person who says "SNES emulation on the PSP is perfect" or "N64 emulators play literally all the games".
The problem with SSF is that, while it starts and plays at least 95% of the games in the system's library, it has a ton of crashes in a ton of games. I tried playing through the 3 episodes of Gundam Side Story, and had to close and re-open the emulator at least 10 times because either the controls gave up or just a black screen of death. And that wasn't just on my computer, but on 3 different computers.
Or the random freezes on Castlevania, Nights and Radiant Silvergun.
>>332111140
Why can't you just install one libre mounting software instead?
>>332111136
All of which you can just emulate in MAME for better results, or experience better re-releases instead.
>>332107107
SSF has missing effects and glitches. No real shadow support for Panzer Dragoon Saga, there's this weird nights glitch too.
Some games like RS play fine, apparently.
>>332110936
>people unironically believe this
Stay ignorant, my friend.
>>332111265
With that logic you should discount at lest the first PD game because of Orta's in-game port of it too.
Because anyone who cares enough about the Saturn library already has a saturn and a modchip/all the games they want
>>332111250
SSF doesn't detect it, IIRC
>People who can't appreciate the Saturn
Those people will never play hidden gems such as Deep Fear or Bulk Slash.
I'd feel sorry for you, if I didn't know it was your own stupidity keeping you from them.
>>332111429
Wait, Orta includes it? Fuck man, I really have to find my Xbox controller.
>>332111496
>Saturn
>modchip
>>332111420
Man, the Sega Saturn has a ton of anime stuff.
>>332110540
>>332111250
Doesn't work. SSF is made only to work with drive emulators, not just image mounters.
Go play shining force
Become a true patrician today
Saturn was basically gen5's TurboGrafx.
Basically god tier core Japanese imports yet failed hard outside Japan because of mismanagement.
>>332111265
Go and try playing Radiant Silvergun on MAME. It has graphics problems and is missing half the game.
>>332111375
>SSF has missing effects and glitches. No real shadow support for Panzer Dragoon Saga, there's this weird nights glitch too.
Which shadows are missing in PD Saga?
Also remember that you can change the compatibility settings in SSF to make games run more accurately (but require stronger cpus - it mattered 10 years ago when it came out).
>>332111517
Bulk Slash is fucking great
>>332111595
>SSF is made only to work with drive emulators, not just image mounters.
uh, aren't those two the same thing?
there isn't a single saturn game worth playing
you might as well shit out a 32x emulator while your at it
why not a jaguar emulator?
>>332111595
I use a program called Daemon Tools Lite (since 2011), try to look for that.
>>332111265
>MAME
>not a horribly bloated emulator with seriously terrible input lag
no thanks, I'll play them on my Saturn instead
>>332110913
Mounting ISOs is a native feature in windows 10 you don't need what those faggots who make daemontools are trying to sell.
>>332111517
Deep Fear isn't that good but i agree that Bulk Slash is excellent.
>>332111660
The TG16/PCE had a better american library than the Saturn in my opinion.
>>332111825
KASUMI NINJA
CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER
SHOW NO MERCY
>>332111825
>le saturn has no gaems XD am i funny yet guise
>>332111852
Yeah, that's not libre, and it's spyware and tries to install adware.
There's no way Saturn emulation could possibly be good. We understand so little about the Saturn, that we can't even fan translate games because we have no method of patching the text into them.
How can you possibly expect to emulate something you can't even do minor edits to?
When the fuck are we getting english patched versions of Policenaunts and Sakura Taisen?
>>332111706
Last I checked there is a huge rotation glitch in Georgius floor texture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBXfWN-Qaow
Look at Edge's shadow as he walks on the ground. It's not a pixel mesh like in SSF, it's a transparency/shadow effect.
>>332111989
half of the saturns "games" are full motion video clip collections
the other half are anime clip collections
>>332112067
>We understand so little about the Saturn, that we can't even fan translate games because we have no method of patching the text into them.
Shining Force III pt 2 has a 100% english patch though.
>>332111954
>Mounting ISOs is a native feature in windows 10
Have you actually tried that with SSF? It's extremely picky and doesn't work with most mounting software - as has been said numerous times in the thread.
>>332111990
Hm... maybe I'm using an older version. I've been using the same version since 2011.
>>332112067
>that we can't even fan translate games because we have no method of patching the text into them.
We got Dragon Force 2 fan translated some time back.
>>332112067
why do u want an English patched version of Policenauts on the Saturn when we have the ps1 version? if anything the pc-98 version would be great to have translated
>>332112178
>>332112232
Yes, I am aware. It's the only fan translated game we have. Maybe they got hints on how to do it from comparing the episode 1 english/japanese versions?
No other games are translated, as far as I know.
Besides, what good is Shining Force III episode 2 when 3 is still missing? Will I have to wait another 15 years to play it?
>>332110261
>rarely gets updated
It was just updated YESTERDAY, you moron. What do you want, hourly updates?
UNPOPULAR OPINION COMING THROUGH
Saturn>N64>PSX>3DO>32X>Jaguar
>>332112318
The thing I hate the most about any fantranslation release is the inevitable:
>"Hey, this is awesome. But can you make the translation work on this completely different console? That's the only one I have."
It's inevitable. Translate a PSX game, one of the first questions is if you're gonna adapt it to the Saturn version too. FUCK.
>>332112202
Most mounting software is downright shit and can't even mount most of my cd images.
I'm using Daemon Tools Lite, and it works fine with SSF now, and has worked fine for the past 14 years.
the saturn was literally shit.
better console coming through.
>>332112497
>updated yesterday
>last update before that: 1.5 years ago
Yeah, totally not rarely updated.
>>332112664
>last update before that: 1.5 years ago
Last update before that was 2015 September, I guess math is not your strong point?
>>332112589
yeah exactly, people just think its as easy as coping text
>>332112448
It's a pain trying to translate Saturn games as is. And anyone who actually knows Jap isn't gonna bother helping much either.
Cotton Boomerang and Princess Crown are the only Saturn games I want to play.
Saturn's ok but you can just play better version of most of its best games on MAME nowadays.
>>332112658
>didn't get a netplay adapter for online gaming
>didn't get RAM expansion cartridges
>didn't have an internal clock
>didn't have 480p games
How was the PSX better than Saturn again?
>>332112780
That was a minor update and does not count, retard.
>>332107956
there is a way to work around thisuse original games
>>332113739
>That was a minor update and does not count, retard.
It only had the entire emu rewritten from C to C++, fixing many gameplay bugs, and also added a GPU renderer.
totally a minor update.
>>332112780
Mate, the last major version release was in June 2014. Pretty unreliable if you ask me.
Call me when SSF gets an OpenGL renderer.
>>332114654
Yabuse is actually getting pretty good, can play most of the games I want to play on android, in the past 2 months its gotten significantly more accurate with its OpenGL render
>>332114539
Go and check the changelogs, every "major version" release only had small fixes, same as the current updates. The author just stopped giving them arbitrary version numbers.
>>332114990
Yabause compatibility is abysmal and the accuracy is not much better
>>332115054
when was the last time you tried to emulate anything on Yabause?
>>332114654
>Call me when SSF gets an OpenGL renderer.
You can't make an openGL renderer for the Saturn and expect it to work fine, it would be like trying to get a SNES emulator that runs Starfox with an OpenGL renderer.
>>332115139
I doubt it got much better since one year ago
Why do I have o mount a virtual disc everytime
>>332115436
is has
You're telling me that I can run Panzer Dragoon Saga on my toaster right now with no hiccups or graphical errors whatsoever?
>>332110936
shut up RS is god-tier
>>332115701
I can run Panzer Dragoon Saga on my phone, only played the start but haven't seen any hiccups or graphical errors
>>332111517
>>332111789
that game doesn't hold up at all, it aged like shit
>>332116589
t.Gen X
Does Saturn have any Metroidvania type games like Wonderboy or Popful Mail?
>pic unrelated
>>332116790
its got SOTN
>>332116790
Well not really. Or at least no game I can recall that's similar like those two.
>>332107107
>windows-only
lol
LOL
>>332116790
Princess Crown and Island of the Seven Winds Story, sort of.
>>332112552
Not only unpopular, also stupid.
>>332107107
Does the saturn have GALGE?
>>332116790
Even though it's a parody, this is pretty much how propaganda was back then. People were fucking dumb, holy shit.
>>332117468
>he didn't like my MGS and FF7 Moviegame Machine
>he must be stupid!!!
>>332118141
Fun how those two were also on PC.
Why do some people report shit performance with SSF while others say it runs at silky smooth 60fps?
>>332112552
>anything above PS1
I'll accept MAYBE N64, but certainly not the fucking Saturn above either. I like all three but this is just crazy.
>>332107107
I've been playing Shining Fore 3 but SSF crashes when I try to close it, causing me to lose progress even if I saved.
>>332107107
Tree reasons why i don´t like SFF.
Don´t have OpenGL. - Yabause have.
Video can´t stretch 100%. - Yabause have.
Those annoying Black Bars.
Song is Good on SFF - Yabause need to fixed.
SSF is japware, and it's really ankward to use.
I have to keep the entire emulator zipped because it fucks with configs randomly and I have to restore from time to time. The video options are a mess too, you have to do a voodoo ritual to make the game look properly
>>332117895
>people were
>implying they aren't
Masses are led pretty easily.
Yeah, I just got a Saturn and modded it few years back, this was when Saturn emulators couldn't even run the sound properly. Not too much effort to just burn some CD-Rs for the games I like, and the controller is one of my favorites.(although I'm pretty sure adapters for it exist to use them on PC)
At least it's not like N64 where the most developed emulator had fucking adware on it.(not sure if the newest version still does)
>>332118341
Because your mileage will vary because SSF has picky startup.
Sega Saturn emulation being terrible is a meme. It's inferior PS1 emulation, but it's better then N64 easily.
>>332119192
People are still dumb but not THAT dumb. At least propaganda these days is handled with more subtlety.
>>332107107
Because most people who emulate are incompetent which is why they always follow the QQ thread with a recommendation where to buy a physical copy.
I was one of the few who's parents bought them a saturn and I have heavy nostalgia for these games.
Bug!
Wing Arms
Hang On GP
Sonic 3D Blast
Nights
Word Series Baseball 98
Daytona USA (Although I should probably just emulate the arcade right?)
Are there any issues emulating them?
>>332116790
Symphony of the Night, my nigga.
>>332121703
Pretty sure most of these work fine. As for Daytona USA, try out the arcade version since the Saturn version wasn't a very good port.
>>332110653
The best saturn games are expensive as fuck. Unless you want find a rare and expensive modchip
>>332119000
are you by any chance the dev of Yabause?
>>332107107
I tried to get this to work years ago on my Core 2 Duo Dell w/ integrated graphics.
Will it run on my current HP Pavilion x360 with i5-6200U, 8 GB RAM?
I want to play Panzer Dragoon Saga.
>>332125940
yep should work no problem, if u have problems with SSF PDS works alright with Yabause aswell I think
>>332123973
consolegoods still sells the Universal V3 modchips, but you have to email because Paypal doesn't allow modchips to be sold on sites where it's a payment method. There's also the Phantom modchip which sells for $27. I think these are the only modchips still for sale.
You could also do a disc swap trick but it's not very good for your system.
>>332126836
I'm just waiting for model 2 SD card mod to release
>>332126925
That would definitely be a great solution since quality CD-Rs get harder and harder to find.
>>332111519
Not him, but it unlocks after so many hours of playtime. Theres a challenge mission you can set it to and leave your xbox running for the required number of hours.
>>332121703
My nigga. Everyone else had PS1's, Genesis, Super Nintendos, ect. but when I broke out my Saga Saturn, kids shat their pants. Mostly because they didn't know what the fuck it was.
>>332110261
actually ssf works with real saturn cds
I can NEVER get it to work
Fucking hate it
>>332107547
> it cant go open source due to the fact it contains actual sega shit in it.
don't ALL emus have something like that or do they emu the system?
im so confused...
>>332111420
Nice infograph. Saved. I wanna buy a genuine Saturn but those things (+ the games) are kinda pricey where I live. Emulation it is, then.
>>332109637
oh is that why it survived to seventh gen?
>>332107657
i don't enjoy nights
i've had it for years, but something about it feels off every time i play it.
love the saturn, great fucking system especially segas first party shit, but that game is always my hard to beat game due to maybe gameplay?
>>332111265
not tekken tag you fag!
PS2 looks and plays better!
fucking arcade TTT looks like updated T3
>>332107107
ssf can't play everything it's nowhere near accurate, fucked up/missing effects among other things
just because it's playable doesn't mean it's good
>>332131748
>TTT Arcade looks like T3
That's a good thing. I'd rather be reminded of T3 than T4.
What do you guys use for virtual drive?
Do you still gotta mount the ISO or can it load em up?
>>332132689
>>332132638
yes you do, I use alcohol 52%, you can stop the adware
