Oh no, doctor!
There are so many cancers killing video games, but we only have time to eliminate one!
What is the worst cancer killing video games that needs to be eliminated right away?
early access tbqh my family member
>>332086186
Early access since it's most of the time shit won't get finished. All others listed in your pic don't even affect good games in any ways. Also dlc should be microtransactions.
>>332086186
I can live with everything because most of the stuff has also some good sides to it but the one thing I would instantly kill is defiantly DLC
Casuals.
If you eliminate the demand, you eliminate the supply.
>>332086186
JRPGS
>>332086186
Easily early access.
Will TB dye during the procedure?
>>332086186
Literally non of these are bad except arguably games journalism, but that's way too vague. I'd like to see why anyone has a problem with any of the stuff on here
>>332086186
>That image
twitch streamers.
It has wholeheartedly ruined multiplayer games and MMOs by having developers cater exclusively to them instead of the silent majority. see: wildstar, GW2, WoW, etc etc etc.
Casuals, any other answer is wrong.
EARLY ACCESS
Get rid of casuals and all other bad video game trends will follow
Purge the casuals and most of the other problems will heal over time.
>>332086640
>dlc should be microtransactions
Why? They fail to be MICRO transactions when they become hour long downloads and cost half the base game.
JRPGS
>>332087090
>>332087302
>>332087312
Does thou not enjoy the occasional casual game?
Twitch streamers. I want all twitch streamers tostop
>>332086725
This is the correct answer.
>>332086725
This, Casuals are the root of all evil
>>332087405
there's a difference between casual games and the perpetual casual player, an individual who, out of sheer adherence to the status quo, supports shit games, shit devs, shit publishers, and shit habits in the video game industry.
See Fallout 4, Bioshock Inifinite, Mass Effect 3
If these things just flopped, devs and publishers would have to get a grip on the situation and stop peddling garbage. Yet instead, there are droves of people ready and willing to enable these awful games and habits merely because they're popular. The video game industry is becoming woefully similar to the movie industry.
>>332086186
I don't like JRPGs but I don't think they're a cancer comparable to the rest - or cancer at all. Just shitty games liked by faggots, but they definitely have their place.
>>332086186
>TerminalBiscuit as the patient
>no 30FPS cancer
YOU HAD ONE JOB
>JRPGs
>>332087723
>Just shitty games liked by faggots
You could say the same about Early Access & Casual games, no?
>>332087914
Not him but JRPGs are really really minuscule compared to those, they are pretty self contained, not really cancerous, and i don't even like them
>>332087801
I would have to make a whole new image if we were going by what TB holds his games to.
>30fps
>FOV slider
>UI usability
>Actual gameplay issues
>technology behind a game's sound/ graphics design
His standards are incredibly high for any game
>>332086186
what's wrong with JRPGs? You may not like them but they don't harm the game's industry
>>332086186
Casuals obviously
That's so vauge it would kill a shit ton of the other cancers, if not all of them.
>JRPGs
>Cancer
Unless you're a fan of oldschool JRPGs they don't really effect you. It's a completely insular market.
>>332086186
Someone forgot to add preorders, the cancerous of the cancers
DLC, easy
>>332088212
Agree on his autism over FOV and UIs, but managing stable 60 FPS in a game is not a high standard.
>>332086186
E-sports
Thanks to that people take this too seriously
I was going to say Games Journalism, but what takes that seriously?
30 fps
FUCK
Twitch streamers or DLC?
Can't decide
>>332086186
if you pull out AAA then DLC, games journalism, F2P and Esports (as we currently know them) all die as well.
>>332087914
>You could say the same about Early Access & Casual games,
Those things appeal to the masses, so it encourages many other companies to follow suit.
JRPGs, especially the weeb/otaku pandering kind are a niche market made by the same old companies for the same old customers that will always be there. You don't exactly see companies dropping the grand strategy games they were working on to make them.
>>332088582
>no one should take things I dont like seriously
are you sure its not you whose the cancer?
If you actually think 30fps is a bigger issue than anything else on the OP you should quit videogames and instead dedicate your life to building rigs
>>332086186
>No pre-order culture option
If that's not available I guess I have to pick AAA devs
>>332089305
>>332089307
>Implying AAA devs would survive a casual purge
>>332089840
>implying thick-headed gatekeeping will help gaming at this point
>>332086856
Even games "journalism" really isn't much worse than its ever been, other than the ability for corporations to constantly bombard you with thinly veiled advertisements
>>332086186
Casuals because that also kills esport, journalism, AAA devs and mobile games.
>>332090160
>implying thick-headed gatekeeping will help gaming at this point
I don't like what you're implicating here anon
Besides, there would be no gatekeeping if casuals were just removed
JRPGs in a heartbeat, just because fuck weebs.
>Early Access
>Casuals
>>332090337
Butthurt casual detected
>>332089410
so wait is he actually dying?
Casuals.
Also, replace JRPGs with just "Kusoge".
>>332086186
By definition of how cancer works eliminating "one" does jack shit
Early Access.
You didn't see Sakurai release Melee on an early build for a disk or Microsoft put out the prototype version of the Xbox. Nobody did this before, now everyone's doing it.
It's fucking lazy.
>>332090337
You have a chance to excise any of the major problems in gaming and instead you kill a niche and isolated industry?
What's your problem?
Casuals would take out the most, honestly.
Mobile Games
Early Access
AAA Devs
Games Journalism
Free to Play
Twitch Streamers
They'd all shrivel up and die without their market
>>332090496
For shits and giggles. Couldn't care less about the other faggots.
>>332090335
Unless you're speaking in impossible fantasies there's no way to outright eliminate casuals without gatekeeping.
>>332086186
you forgot to add console gaming
>>332090496
He is a casual himself
>>332090509
I'm relatively hardcore and I watch Twitch streams.
Biggest one I watch is VgBootcamp, though.
>>332090390
>Being this new
Yes.
>>332090587
>Unless you're speaking in impossible fantasies
That's what this whole thread is dum dum
>>332090574
I just can't believe someone with the chance to kill AAA game development wouldn't.
>>332090659
But casuals are the ones who propagate all of the shittyness of twitch.
THe oens who dont actually play the games, but watch them and meme all day on their overly popular streamer's channel
>>332090821
Ah, I see.
Removing casuals would make Twitch better.
>>332090760
Because I don't have any opinion on them.
On the other hand, basement-dwelling weebs shitting their pants over chink games getting nuked would be a sight to behold.
>>332086186
>The game in the JRPG spot isn't even a JRPG
Casuals have been successfully removed from our patient.
Tell us /v/, what next? We will save our Industry with your help.
>>332090924
As opposed to 12-year-olds' heads exploding because CoD and Battlefield are dead?
And you know YouTube would be flooded with videos of them freaking the fuck out because they only know AAA FPS games.
>>332090638
Gettin rid of Console Gaming is really ignorant.
I do both and even though I'd rather PC, console gaming still has its big impacts from years past that did help a bunch out in the long run. Just because it had a large casual market because of how low maintenance and cheap they are, doesn't mean it should be perms barely eliminated.
>>332086186
>Showing TB and Ubisoft as an example of AAA devs
That's ironic since TB liked Rainbow Six Siege.
>>332086186
Early Access is literally the only thing on that list that needs to be removed.
Casuals by far
Entire industry suddenly becomes a million times better.
>>332088516
>>332088212
I agree. It's just so lazy, for a game to be in 30fps nowadays... I doubt you'll ever see one on his top lists these days.
>>332091256
Why on earth do you think that?
>>332091084
How is he alive without casuals?
>>332090671
It's a combination of hearing conflicting info about it being in remission or growing and also the fact that I don't really care that much
>>332091084
It seems... with no more Casuals propagating in his body, our patient is healing nicely. AAA developers have jumped shit due to no profitability, E-sports died with nobody to watch it, DLC went too for one reason or another.
Twitch Streaming hasn't faded, for some odd reason, though.
>>332086186
Mobile Games
>>332091356
>muh 60 fps
total cuckold is acting like anything below 60 fps hurts his smug eyes
funny how seeing his wife's son doesn't hurt them
>>332091531
>Being this bad at putting images in my replies
Anyway,
>>332091478
In this context, TB is a metaphor.
>>332091505
It went into remission, then he got Cancer elsewhere and it's terminal. Liver IIRC.
>>332091256
Games Journalism can fuck right off and some forms of DLC can fuck off too. DLC done right is fine, the companies that do day 1 DLC and withhold parts of the games behind paywalls that aren't cosmetic on Day 1 deserve to eat shit.
Bethesda, as much as they get hate, does DLC relatively correct,
>>332091379
Don't like Twitch? Don't watch.
Don't like DLC? Don't buy
Mobile casual free to play games? Just do sudoku puzzles on your phone like I do.
AAA versus JRPG? If you don't like shit genre, don't play it.
Games journalism and e-sports are only viewed by a small fraction of the game playing audience.
Early access is the only thing ruining games. I've played Early Access games, and some of them have been very good. But playing them in their alpha state spoiled/ruined the complete product for me. And with it's success, indies and AAA companies have learned that paid alphas for their products that they are under no obligation to ever finish is now OK.
If I could remove 3 things from that list, I would remove Early Access 3 times just to make sure.
>>332092068
I agree with most of your shit, except one thing.
>Don't like DLC? Don't buy.
Other fags who have no impulse control and/or "love" a game, see: any game they play, will still buy it and the practice will continue and you'll keep missing out on what is technically the "content complete" version of a game.
Especially shit like Day 1 on-disk DLC cause marketing and higher-ups said "cut it and gate it." to (insert content here)
>>332092068
Anon, these effect a large majority of games.
The "Lmao dont like dont look" shit isnt working, since more and more are using that shit.
Twitch garbage effects a lot of online games. DLC is resulting in shit like Amiibos, and chopped up games all over. Journos are getting up devs asses about shitty things. Ect.
>>332092068
>JUST IGNORE IT AND IT'LL GO AWAY
Yea, I'm not white, so I'm not going to lie down while the shit I love is horribly raped by insane retards.
You might enjoy that, but I don't.
>>332086186
I'd rather just let the fat disgusting faggot die
>>332092718
Random whitey here, it's not a white thing, just a pacifist thing, and you don't have to be a "true pacifist" to believe it either, it's just a pacifist action that lets people walk all over you in the gaming industry.
>>332093059I was making a joke about Europe anon.
>>332093140Oh, sorry. Frenchies specifically, I hope.
>>332092718
>>JUST IGNORE IT AND IT'LL GO AWAY
And being anal damaged and whining about it on /v/ will make it go away?
It's called capitalism, these things exist because the demand is there, some nerds bein mad on the internet will not cause people to stop buying things they like.
>>332086186
I can't find any of these that are inherently bad. We need to figure out the root of the problem, not cut out organs until it goes away.
>>332086186
Early access.
>>332093237
>And being anal damaged and whining about it on /v/ will make it go away?
Complaining about this kind of stuff and showing you don't support it will have an effect, yes.
I also complain about it on social media.
I know some of you Europeans (and Americans) are so horrified of being called a loserGASPthat you'll lie down like the pussies you are, but not everyone is such a faggot.
>>332086186
Replace JRPGs with weeaboo fanservice simulators and I'm in.
>>332093245
What do you think is the root of the problem?
>>332086186
TB.
>>332093237
I know anon.
At the end of the day there's nothing we could do. Besides just pointlessly argue with people.
There's just nothing else we can even try. Only chance I see is arguing
>>332091653
>>332091505
>>332090671
Remission means : we can't find any trace of the cancer but it's guaranteed some cells scattered throughout the whole body and will eventually start multiple tumors that will lead to the patient's death in a few months/years.
>>332086186
Let it die.
>>332093529
Jews?
People with extremely low standards?
>>332086725
I like your thinking.
>>332093245
>The root of the problem
That'd be capitalism in the U.S. markets and then spreading naturally to RoW.
>Marketing vidya took off cause there was demand and people starting taking more interest
>Reaches a high point equilibrium in terms of market demand and supply
>Look for ways to get more money for less work
>Reduce development times
>Push up game prices
Remember when vidya used to be $50 for a AAA release in the U.S,?
>Someone has the brilliant idea to make miniature expansion packs post-release
>Have development teams continue production after a game goes gold for these Downloadable Content in addition to bugfixes
>etc.
You can't truly fix this without somehow forming a viciously regime with policies against these issues, which isn't happening quite yet.
>>332092393
>>332092558
>>332092718
If you dont buy the thing, it doesn't effect you.
If everyone doesn't buy the thing, they stop making the thing.
Here's the important partIf everyone else buys the thing, you are in the minority, and pandering all of gaming to your tastes would be bad business.
>>332093529
Greed
Another, more minor root, is people caring about shoving politics into games.
But greed is the big one
>>332091637
fucktard the child has a stable framerate
>>332093685
>XKCD
>>332093529
Well, if we started cutting out the bad parts of various organs, we might produce a better result. Remove day one DLC for starters. Subtract corporate funding from games journalism. Restrict the use of early access. Distribute more useful information to casuals. Already we can see the patient's health beginning to improve.
>>332094119
>Linking a picture that explains my post in a convenient graphical representation instead of a random anime picture
>>332094140
This Anon has the right idea.
Except most casuals don't give a fuck.
>Put information about whatever in their face
>As a tooltip, an interactive sign, or popup on opening the door/transitioning areas
>They usually ignore it in favor of doing whatever while playing games, like vaping, drinking, eating, texting their significant other, etc.
>>332086186
DLC. Everything else I can just ignore. With DLC companies cut out entire portions of the game to resell to me. I just want to buy the entire game at the regular price.
>>332093895
Your explanation of the obvious does not make it any less frustrating
>>332092068
So your a twitch fag thats all you needed to say.
People who watch e celebs and casuals are the root of all evil and you should all be lined up and shot for being such friendless pussys.
>>332094313
Include tutorial levels at the beginning where basic knowledge of mechanics is required in order to progress. Easy to get through if you're reading the instructions, but impossible if you're not. The hardcore audience might complain about handholding, but the effect will be overall positive.
Casuals. They are the original tumor from which it all has spread out.
>>332094903
>requires you to learn
Then casuals who can't grasp the concept of reading will abandon the game and the problem persists, cause they just don't care enough and if it frustrates them, into the trash it goes.
Also, handholding is only ever bitched about if it goes on too long, like for more than 10-20 minutes given a normal level of intelligence.
>>332095096
If the mechanics aren't overcomplicated or excessively difficult, I doubt the game will be abandoned by anyone over the age of 10. Put instructions onscreen, following them gets you past an obstacle. Simple.
Casuals are the underlying disease, everything else is symptoms, remove casuals and you cure the patient.
>>332095329
You seem to overestimate how awful some casuals are, but you would definitely fix anyone above the bottom grade of casual, no question.
Shame the collective of total retards in the Casual "group" is really high up there.
Ideally, euthanize the stupid and work towards breeding naturally smarter people.
It's unethical in terms of the lives of the stupid, but ethical in terms of improving the human race as a whole.
>>332086186
Consoles.
Fixed.
I am dying soon. Please support my wife's son and buy my merch.
>DLC
Only people stuck in the past or not used to games with good DLC give a shit.
>Twitch Streamers
Easily ignored.
>Mobile Games
Only bad when a mainline game could've been on a real platform instead of a phone but that almost never happens.
>Early access
Not bad in theory but yeah lots of devs abuse this.
>Casuals
Only a problem when they're all the developers listen to, ex. Half-Life 2 Ep. 2's playtesting.
>AAA Devs
They're the only reason why the medium's an industry and not an indie pasttime, like it or not.
>F2P
Like with fucking everything here, it depends on how it's done. Dota 2 is the best example.
>JRPGs
An entire genre of video games can't be cancer.
>Games Journalism
Has always been bad.
>E-Sports
Not a problem.
>>332095329
The typical casual plays games at 30-60 minute sessions, and usually while doing some other task.
There's a reason why modern games have the button you need to press literally highlighted on the screen.
>>332094119
The image has a good point this time though, getting fussed up over origin more than content makes you a dumbass.
>>332095950
I am oddly reminded of Conker's "Context Sensitive" B button.
It's basically the "Use" or "Action" button in modern games.
Just it does some wild out there shit instead of stuff like "open door" or "Tame animal."
>>332086186
>DLC
Too vague. Some of them are cancerous, some of them are basically the same as expansion packs.
>Twitch streamers
>Early Access
>Games Journalism
These are only releveant if you are retarded and fall for them.
>Mobile games
This is most worth eliminating here desu. They are the focus of the industry and affect modern game design as a whole. And they suck.
>Casuals
It sucks when good games are changed to cater for them, but more accessibility can sometimes be a good thing, with better UIs and clearer game mechanics.
>JPRGS
They're already dead fampai.
>Free-to-play
They're fine. Pay-to-win games invariably die anyway.
>E-Sports
Litterally nothing wrong with them.
>>332096190
>>332095880
nobodycares
>>332096190
>Butter UIs and clearer game mechanics.
Can you image if SS13 was casualized?The idea is both horrifying and intriguing.
>>332096339
I wouldnt mind SS13 being casualized in a way where you dont have to read a fuckin booklet on the wiki to know how to do your damn job
>>332096518
My point, there's so many ways it'd get better and worse given a variety of changes.
>Separate actions across the keyboard
>Keep equips and such to mouse controls in menus
>etc.
>>332095880
>Only a problem when they're all the developers listen to, ex. Half-Life 2 Ep. 2's playtesting.
Playtesting isn't where casuals ruin vidya. It happens when developers and publishers try to appeal to as many people as possible, which means casuals.
At best you get Bioshock Infinite. At worst you get Thief 4.
>>332095559
>>332095950
Well, a simple tutorial is the best we can do without removing gameplay or deciding that some people just don't get to play games.
>>332096802
>removing gameplay
Too bad that's exactly what publishers have been doing for the past decade, isn't it?
>>332086186
F2P can die in a fire.
>>332086186
Remove casuals and Twitch, mobile games, AAA and twitch all die instantly.as a bonus, games will get less censored when devs dont appeal to the masses
>>332091478
Criminally underrated post.
>>332096863
Don't whine. You've made it clear what you think the problem is, now look for solutions or leave the situation to work itself out.
>>332086725
but without casuals we wouldn't have ps4 sales to shitpost
>>332096890
I'm afraid you're gonna pay 0.99$ for those coals, though.
>>332097285
Simple. Something else would take it's place.
>>332086725
Literally this.
Killing casuals removes:
>early access
>streamers
>dlc
>mobile games
>aaa devs
>f2p
>esports
Only JRPGs and game journalism remain , with the latter losing all its relevance. OP also forgot to add youtubers and realistic graphics, which then again would be dead with the death of casuals.
>>332097593
but sony fanboys are the most dedicated shitposters
>>332099298
Don't be silly, nobody can overtake the Australians.
>>332086186
>JRPG
>cancer
Why? if wasnt for jrpg you faggots wouldnt eve make indie games in the first place.
online consoles is what killed video games
>>332086186
plus one vote to kill all censorship faggots.
>>332098923
and also removes money, which removes vidya quality and all the new games would be indie crap, snap out of your utopia dream
Mobile games are the only correct choice.
Casuals are still a valueable money source.
>>332099815
>Diablo
>Age of Empires
>Deus Ex
>Quake
>Starcraft
>Super Metroid
>Counter Strike
>Ultima Online
>Baldurs Gate
>Planescape Torment
>etc etc etc etc etc etc
>indie crap
>utopia dream
>>332100515
those games were possible thanks to the casuals of that time, and newer generations will see CoD and Fallout 4 like you see those games
>>332100812
(you)
last one i'm giving and setting up an example so others easily baited persons will hopefully follow.
>>332100931
>I'll pretend it's bait to avoid my feelings getting hurt
you're no better than feminists calling everyone trolls
