If I were to hypothetically,... theoretically,... potentially,... suppositionally start playing sonic games, which ones would you recommend?
>>332037809
Classic first
>>332037809All of them and make your own opinions
The first ones on the Genesis/Mega Drive? No need to beat around the bush like a autist, OP.
>>332037894
just hit me with the 10/10 ones
i can't sit around playing Sonic ALL DAY now can I, anon?
>>332037809
I would recommend Sonic 3&K, because it literally doesn't get better than that.
Then I would recommend, should you feel the need to play more, you shoukd stop before you end up making OCs on DeviantArt.
>>332037809Don't play Sonic games.
>>332038017
not a single sonic game is 10/10
closest you get is 7.5/10
>>332037809
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the most solid out of them. Though even the classics, while good, are pretty over-rated. The camera in particular is really awful, and the enemy placement is sometime really trollish.
>>332038075Don't call anybody
>>332037809
Sonic 06
Sonic Spinball
Sonic Genesis
Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Sonic and the Black Knight
Shadow The Hedgehog
Sonic Riders
Sonic Rivals
Sonic Shuffle
Sonic R
Sonic Boom
>>332038174
Sonichu is a gem, though, OP should play that.lol
1
2
3
& Knuckles
Sonic Adventure 2
I heard Colors & Generations were both decent? I didn't play them though
>>332038472
Colors and Generations are both pretty fun. Not amazing, but fun.
>>332038017
Start with Sonic 2 and Sonic 3&K. If you're still hungry for more, go back and play 1 and CD. And if you're feelingAdventurous, give SA and SA2 a shot. They're pretty divisive on whether they're good or not, so go in with an open mind.
>>332038137
This is what Xbox generation kiddies believe.
>>332038191
>Sonic and the Black Knight
That shit's actually a good time over Secret Rings, nice flub.
>>332038017
>>332038815
Also, Generations.
>>332038191
I hope you are not implying that Sonic Riders was bad
>>332038191
>Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
>Sonic Boom
You monster.
>>332038820
Take off your fucking nostalgia goggles. The level design is fucking shit in most sonic games in a game about going fast. Maybe you can come up with an argument aside from shit posting and get back to me. Probably not as I doubt you even play sonic games, or video games in general.
>>332038017
You came to the wrong place because according to /v/ all sonic games are at most a 3/10
just play Sanicball
and only play as Super Sonic
>>332038970
>in a game about going fast
Going fast is merely a privilege to the people who git gud.
Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 Complete
Sonic CD
That's it. Forget the rest
Sonic Rush is a good game with a 10/10 soundtrack.
At the very least listen to the OST.
From the same guy responsible for jet set radio, but cranked up to 11
I don't even like the JSR OST but the sonic rush OST fucks me good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjtqtidvzs
>>332038970
I feel like the biggest problem is the camera. It's zoomed in too far and doesn't adjust to Sonic's movement. It basically just keeps Sonic in the center of the screen except on boss fights, and it makes it really easy to run/jump into enemies you couldn't see or react to.
>>332038970
>Maybe you can come up with an argument
You've actually failed to competently critique any of them.
Since you've supposedly played the games do elaborate. Pick some of the recommended games you've supposedly played entirely to know they're not above 7.5/10, pick a level, pick apart how the design is flawed.
Or pick door number 2, the noose.
>>332039239
>it makes it really easy to run/jump into enemies you couldn't see or react to.
The Genesis games have ample opportunity to jump or roll through threats. This kind of thing is said by people who have only picked up the game and expect not to be punished for holding right at all times.
>>332039187
This
1
2
3 Complete
CD
Are the must plays
Then you get into the iffy territory of highly subjective games that have good and bad points. I'd say try Sonic Rush, Sonic Adventure 1 and see if you like them before going further.
>>332038970
Except outside of specific sections designed around it you are not meant to blindly run forward like a retard
Old sonic games are about momentum, not 'lmao gotta go fast', Knuckles can't even go very fast in the first place.
>>332039187
Only Sonic Rush though. Not Sonic Rush Adventure.
Don't want to confuse OP.
>>332039187
>That amen break
Nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW-nMRZGpgA
This is the only correct Sonic opinion on YouTube.
Sonic Heroes is alright if you just play Team Sonic
>>332040058
Team Dark had some cool takes on stages. But yeah, fuck team rose and chaotix.
The Genesis games
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Generations
And if you like racing Sega All-stars and its sequel is also pretty good
>>332040136
Team Rose is actually alright for some of the stages because I think some of the later ones get really repetitive for the other teams, like Egg fleet.
>>332040245
As best I can recall, Team Rose felt like easy mode, only three-quarters into the game. Not to mention the dick-punch that was Chaotix following it.
>>332039820
But Adventure is good too m8
>>332040494
It's not a bad game, but I'm mainly talking about the soundtrack.
They got a different, not bad, but nothing special guy for adventure soundtrack.
>>332039820
>>332040494
Someday I'm going to have to play the Rush games, people seem so divided over this.
>>332040654
>>332040654
If you like the style of Modern Sonic in Unleashed/Generations, the Rush games are essentially 2D versions of that.
>>332037809
OP, ignore all these other losers
Lets start from the basics
What do you go into sonic looking for? Speed? An adventure? A side scroller? Start with this
>>332040472
Team Sonic was normal length levels.
Team Dark was longer levels.
Team Rose was shorter levels.
Normal level length in Sonic Heroes is still pretty long, though, and some of the stages in the game end up using the same layouts and set pieces more than once, or simply don't have enough interesting content to justify the length
>>332040632
Well sure, nobody can touch Naganuma, but Adventure's still got some decent shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg0KyCrmW88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11IrFIOXnUE
>>332040654
They're easily my favorites, I'd say go for it
>>332040948
>They're easily my favorites, I'd say go for it
With praise like that, I'll sure make the time to try em.
Sonic 1 (Android version has extra content)
Sonic 2 (Android version has extra content)
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic Adventure (Dreamcast version has the least glitches but the least stable framerate)
Sonic Adventure 2 (Preferably SA2:Battle for the extra content)
Sonic Generations
After that, try Sonic CD (2011 version has extra content), Sonic Advance trilogy, Sonic Rush, Sonic Colours.
If you're really into it, play Sonic Battle, Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog.
>inb4 edgy the hedgy
>>332039143
This is the answer. You probably don't have time to play a list of like 7 modern length games... So at least just start with these ones to decide if its worth continuing. There 4 games are the reason Sonic is popular in the first place, literally the games every future Sonic game is compared to to this day, so start with these.
Ignore the original games. They suck ass and will give you a wrong impression. They are bad. Ignore. Try adventure 1 first, keep in mind its a 1998 game. If you like it and the varied gameplays, go straight to adventure 2. Play heroes next definitely. Now sonic had a bit of a downfall from 2005-2006 with shadow the hedgehog and sonic 06. No big deal, every series has its shortcomings.
Sonic Unleashed is the height of the franchise. INCREDIBLE speeds, one of the best soundtracks in a game ever, gorgeous graphics thanks to an extremely capable lighting engine, an epic story and duel at the end. 2 styles of gameplay that are both well developed and fun. If you cant handle the speed just go to sonic colors. Its pretty shitty but a lot of people like it. Bad music, no sense of speed, story sucks, most of the game is in 2D. If its not for you just go to sonic generations then. Plays like sonic unleashed but with more 2D and slower speed/shorter stages but has more platforming. Classic sonic isnt that exciting but its a fun platformer nonetheless.
>>332041726
Sonic Unleashed would give a horrible first impression. Not that it's a bad game, but that shit's a train wreck in the first playthrough. It only gets good when you learn the stages.
>>332042062
This is true actually. I remember the countless E ranks and badly playing orchestra and sonic dying in the rank screen. But even if i was getting my ass kicked it was the most fun with sonic i ever had. There are a lot of nuances/tricks and shortcuts you need to learn to fully get the most out of the game, but youre guaranteed a grand world adventure and can always go fast, you will just be inept at first. I also recommend getting the apotos dlc since theres a night level where you can get 45 bars of exp in 5 minutes or so. Make the werehog a powerhouse and go crazy with all your combos and strength. Its 2-3 bucks, its worth it
>>332038017
There are no 10/10 sonics. The best one was 3&Knux, but even that is barely an 8/10 if that.
>>332038017
Okay so the Sonic fandom is real shitty since the series has a shitty habit of losing its identity so here's two 10/10s in each major group of games
>Classic sidescroller
Sonic 2
Sonic 3 Complete (also known as Sonic 3 and Knuckles)
>6th Gen console platformers
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
>7th Gen console platformers
Sonic Colors
Sonic Generations
>8th gen anything
this franchise has done nothing worth playing on an 8th gen console
>post-classic sidescroller
Sonic Advance 1
Sonic Rush
>spin-offs (obviously not good places to start)
Spinball
Riders
Pick whatever looks interesting, if I had to say one to introduce you to the series, Sonic 2 or Colors. My favorites are 2 and Generations.
>>332042761
Sure, replace colors with unleashed and its not a bad list
>>332042915
Considered it but went with colors because at least colors isn't considered a dark age game to a lot of people. I, for one, prefer Unleashed, but that's because I don't mind Werehog, most people do and I wouldn't want a bipolar game like that to be someone's first impression of the series
Also forgot to mention but in case it's not obvious it's not a good idea to start with generations. It's really good, amazing in my book, but even I know this game hits harder for long-time fans
>>332037809
The hacks. Sonic 3 Complete, Classic Heroes, Sonic CD++, and Megamix are just a few examples. I can't touch the originals anymore because I'm that spoiled.
>>332043331
>I dont mind the werehog
You're...you're alright in my book anon. I was going to call you a faggot but you're being reasonable enough...carry on and have a nice evening
What's better, Unleashed PS3/360 or Wii/PS2? I know there are differences between them.
>>332038017
sonic CD, just emulate it or get it on steam
as for 3d I GUESS you can play the adventure games
if you can grab a buddy I recommend sonic 3 or knuckles chaotics
>>332043801
Different level design and the daytime gameplay is completely different. In the Wii/PS2 version, think of the boost as a spindash because you can't hold as the boost meter is divided into bars. So, Wii/PS2 is short bursts of energy and the 360/PS3 version is sustained boosts.
>>332043801
PS3/360 BY FAR
Dont ever touch the wii/ps2 version. The HD version is the real unleashed experience. The last gen version is missing hubs, sense of speed, combos for the werehog, well designed day stages, weak final boss, more night levels, and very barren levels in general. It was quickly put together to recuperate losses from the HD version and the wii version of unleashed was the best selling one. You could try unleashed SD after playing the HD one, but not the other way around.
>>332043801
Wii/PS2 ports are pretty bad.
>>332038017
Must-play:
>Genesis games (3&K and CD being best)
>Adventure series (not necessarily because they're good, but because they're basically the backbone of modern Sonic, I like these games so and the OSTs are sick as hell)
>Colors and Generations
>>332042761
>Sonic Adventure 2
>85% of the game is filled with Tails, Knuckles, and their evil counterparts shitty levels
When will this "SA2 is good" meme end?
>>332040784
thats a terrible comparison, genrations sonic controls like a fucking tank. I think my least favorite thing about new sonic games is the lack of free movement. the adventure games yeah you're moving forward but you had to move left or right and weave sometimes. now its GOTTA GO FAST NEVER STOP HOLDING UP and its terrible
>>332037809
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. Accept no substitutes.
>>332039143
Best answer
Fuck everything else
>>332043801
HD Unleashed is not only the definitive version, but it also has an entire continent missing from the other version, better visuals (arguably best in the series), and better Werehog controls than the Wii version.
>>332039143
To bad sonic 1, sonic cd, sonic 3, and sonic and knuckles suck ass.
>>332041308
This guy nailed it
>>332039820
So what about Rush Adventure makes it so bad? I somewhat grew up on Rush and had a blast, but never tried it's sequel.
>>332044246
You see this is why I posted so many games
It's because some people like those levels and some people don't
Sonic changed a lot over the years. Some people like the 3D games, some like the 2D games, some like particular 3D games, it goes on and that's why this fanbase is so shitty and why this franchise has been in crisis or on the border of it for so long
>>332044492
Fun fact, its actually pretty much missing 2 continents. Mazuri is only used for a boss fight. Theres no day or night mazuri levels in the last gen unleashed. Along with empire city completely missing. The night levels arent constructed as "fun" either in the last gen one. I dont know how to explain it, but the animations and werehog controls are weird in it
>>332044015
>>332044030
>>332044054
>>332044492
Sweet, thanks guys. Been watching Unleashed speedruns recently, and they got me in the mood. Maybe I'll pick this up sometime soon.
>>332044668
vehicles can get bothersome
skip all the cut-scenes for the love of god Marine the Raccon might be the most unlikable character this series has ever had. Yes, even when put next to things like Big and Omochao, Marine looks like garbage.
>mfw emulating the original on the genesis and it's hard as fucking balls
this game is bullshit
fuck this series
>>332045089
1 is one of the hardest, but surely that isn't the limit of your ability.
>>332040654
Coming off the perfection that was Sonic Advance 3, I admit I didn't give Rush the best opinion. I missed the depth in platforming and experimentation Advance 3 had. Rush is great, but it's definitely a 2D Sonic of a different variety.
>>332044885
If you have a decent PC gaming rig, download Generations and grab a mod called the Unleashed Project. It's all of Unleashed's daytime levels with the Generations engine. It's fucking sublime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdb3DQuHONk
>>332044753
Honestly I can't see how anyone can feasibly like these levels.
Tails/Eggman's levels are basically Gamma's but replacing an interesting time limit aspect with a shitty HP bar.
Knuckles/Rogue's leveled suffered by the "sensing one emerald at a time" being implemented. This becomes apparent in space levels like Meteor Herd.
>>332045207
I have so many other games to play, I don't have to flagellate myself using Sonic.
I could be playing XCom 2 or something else on my backlog.
>>332045089
>mfw I beat the game with all six emeralds
One of my greatest accomplishments in gaming.
>>332044942
Seeing how extremely annoying they made every non-Blaze character turn out in Sonic Rush, I can believe it.
>>332044885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Glfx6LBbbGY
Still the best speed run ever. Im fucking surprised the part at :59 doesnt melt consoles. Fuck im surprised this entire game doesnt melt consoles, its a technical marvel. Play the full game of unleashed hd and experience it all. The generations mod is nice and all but just please experience the full game. Its a very special game with tons of heart in and the last time sonic will ever have a big budget game. If you can choose between 360 and PS3, go for 360 since it has an extra cutscene for the werehog/sonic transformation and has a more stable frame rate
>>332045310
Again
This franchise changed drastically with every new release once it got into 3 dimensions, some of these changes work for some people, some of these changes are asinine for others. I only really listed SA2 because the other options for 5th gen platformers are
>Heroes
>Shadow
Which are even more polarizing. Honestly I probably could've gotten away with saying
>3D platformers
SA1
Colors
Generations
but who cares? lots of people like SA2 and I think it's just as good a starting point as SA1 considering SA1 has hefty bullshit of its own.
>>332040654
Adventure aint a bad game, but the original rush is boss as fuck.
>>332045409
It just boggles the mind
at least big and omochao became Sega's little in-jokes, Marine was just dropped like a fucking rock and her one notable appearance had no redeeming qualities. At least Big was written to be just as stupid as his gameplay and Omochao could be mostly ignored, you have to deal with Marine if you don't skip cut-scenes and all she ever does is cause bullshit by being a cunt.
God I wish I just skipped it all, with the way you get to levels I thought it'd be worth it since maybe they'd indicate where to go next, but no you never have to read 'em.
Other than that I think its regular levels are fine compared to Rush 1
Good Christ, there are actually honest to God Unleashed shills. How?
>>332046201
Can you call me a shill if I fully acknowledge most people don't/won't like it?
Also I think that word is losing its meaning, a shill is a viral marketer and Unleashed is a 2008 game. Why would someone be paid to viral an 8 year old game?
>>332046201
Just like you blindly call sonic 3 and knuckles perfect despite being a pile of shit, Unleashed, holy fuck get this, has fans of its own!
It depends of the person. The best ones are the classic ones (1-3&Knuckles). 3D Generations, Unleashed day time or Adventures but just for the Sonic or Shadow levels.
If you want to do it in some sort of order then Sonic 1, CD Remake, 2, 3 Complete, Advanced series(1 is the closest to the classics, 2 has some cool levels with tons of paths like Sonic 3 did, and you can skip 3), Adventure 1(Dreamcast version, later versions are ports of a port of a port of a port) and 2, Heroes just Sonic Team if you really want to(Xbox or GC versions), Sonic Rush series(1st is pretty good on the 1st run, 2nd you have to travel a lot finding the stages but the stages are good and fun), Sonic Unleashed(or project Unleashed), Colors and Generations. 06 is just for a good laugh.
Master System/GG games only if you enjoy Sonic and don't mind to try them. Sonic1 and 2 for the MS/GG versions can be annoying or hard to some players.
And play Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, because that is pretty good.
>>332045650
>but who cares? lots of people like SA2 and I think it's just as good a starting point
I realized a while ago that the people who say that are the same people that had the GameCube as their first console ever and their first Sonic was Adventure 2, pardon, Adventure Battle. If you say Sonic Battle they will identify it as the gamecube game and not the gba one.
>>332037894
But that takes too long
>>332037809
Is sonic the most aesthetically pleasing character ever created?
>>332046880
those people ended up Sonic fans
maybe not the kind you like but fans all the same
It worked as a starting point for plenty of people, so I ask again, who cares?
Are you so asinine that you want everyone to get into this franchise from a similar angle and grow to like the same aspects of it that you do?
>>332047235
>>332037809
- Sonic 1-3
- Sonic CD
- Sonic Adventure DX
- Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
- MAYBE Sonic Advance 1.
Then drop the franchise completely, unless Sega gets their shit together.
*Also, whatever you do, avoid Sonic 06 at all costs*
>>332047235
No because lots of people hate his freaky mono-eyeI personally don't mind it but it leads to funny shit in 3D
>>332042761
This is the best possible answer to this thread. Sonic has changed so much over the years that you can't just recommend one thing and expect OP to think it's the definitive Sonic game.
>>332044030
>tfw thought they were the same and my first Unleashed experience was on the Wii
>>332047319
When they say that the classics aren't good or they can't find them appealing, but Adventure 2 yes, then I have a problem with that for sure.
>>332047365
>no sonic colors
>no sonic generations
>>332047892
How horrible, someone has a different opinion that I can't understand!
Cry me a fucking river.
>>332047813
You poor motherfucker...im sorry nigga.
>>332044030
There was some hub temple with puzzles. That music track was pretty good.
About the PS360 version, fuck those qte specially on Eggmanland.
>>332047813
>not knowing that fucking Empire City was out of the Ps2/Wii version
I don't regret buying that version though, it was about 5 bucks. I enjoyed running on that Rooftop version and on a mission.
Where was thatDAMNfourth chaos emerald?
>>332047361
>The end of his spike doesn't reach the start of the Golden Spiral
You can't just slap it on whatever the fuck you want you dumb nigger.
>>332038970
>in a game about going fast
I'll take off the nostalgia goggles when you take off the retard goggles.
>>332037809
The good ones.
>>332037809
Sonic 2, or Sonic Adventure 1, those are the only two worth playing.
Sonic Adventure 2 is ok, but not as good as 1.
>>332038815
>>332038815
NO,
start with Sonic 2 and Sonic 3&K,
and if you want more, play Sonic 2&K
then maybe Sonic Spinball
SA1 is good also.
>>332051387
I never felt like Sonic 2 really benefited much from playable Knuckles, but maybe I quit before it got interesting.
>>332037809
Secret Rings (wii) is a really good one.
Also Sonic Advance 3 (gba) and Adventure 2 battle (Dreamcast/GC).
Of course play the classics, Sonic the hedgehog 1&2.
>>332051479
It just makes the game a shit ton easier, because it wasn't designed with the wallclimb / glide ability.
>>332051501
Sonic Advance is great if you are new to sonic and you don't know if you'll like it, download it on your phone (for free) and play it while on the shitter.
Best games for each period:
>"Old Sonic" Console Platformers
Sonic CD (for exploration)
Sonic 2 (for speed)
Sonic 3&K (for middle ground)
>"Old Sonic" Handheld Platformers
Sonic Chaos
>"Old Sonic" 3D
Sonic Adventure
>"Old Sonic" Spinoffs
Tails Adventure
>"New Sonic" Handheld Platformers
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic Rush Adventure
>"New Sonic" 3D
Sonic Generations
>"New Sonic" Spinoffs
Sonic Battle
Sonic Riders
Sonic All Star Racing Transformed
And now for the extra categories:
>Honorable Mentions (play if you like the aforementioned):
Sonic Triple Trouble
Sonic Advance
Sonic Pinball Party
Sonic Rush
Sonic Colors (DS/Wii)
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Rivals 2
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
>Download the soundtrack
Sonic R
Sonic the Fighters
Sonic 2006 (jesus christ this game sucks but it's soundtrack is amazing)
>Never fucking play ever
Sonic Drift / 2
Sonic Shuffle
Sonic Unleashed (Wii version)
Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic Free Riders
Sonic 4: Episode II
Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal
>Literally burn the copy if you see it in the wild. With fire. Or Acid. Doesn't matter, just make sure it doesn't exist after you see it.
Sonic Labyrinth
Sonic Chronicles: The Lost Brotherhood
>>332037809
Colours
Then Generations
Then stop.
>>332054343
lol kill yourself
>>332041308
>Android version
are you retarded?
>but but but more contentttttt
who the fuck cares. it's trash
>>332052240
>"Old Sonic" Handheld Platformers
>Sonic Chaos
Not a handheld original. (Why do people keep making that mistake?) Better on the console it was designed for, yet easily the worst of the Master System Sonics.
>>332054848
"Android version" is also the same as PC version and 3ds version
Retard
>>332055652
you're not really convincing me with those hot opinions.
megadrive or bust
>>332038970
>The level design is fucking shit
Whenever I see this I automatically stop reading because they clearly do not understand how the game is meant to be played and is probably shit at video games in general.
>>332038191
Hey fuck you the original Riders is great.
>>332039187
While it is very good, I cannot say that it's anywhere near the level of JSR/F.
>>332052240
I feel Unleashed HD deserves to be in the honorable mentions. The Medal collecting is a bitch, but it's a fun ride.
>>332052240
You forgot sonic spinball
>>332052240
>putting sonic rush adventure above sonic rush
fucking dumbass
The Genesis games first, then Adventure 1 & 2 then Generations and your done.
>>332061578
shit list
