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>sixty hours in this
>played all the Diablos
>played all the Torchlights
>never could get into Titan Quest

Where do I go next?
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Try The Adventures of Van Helsing OP. It's fairly decent as far as ARPG's go.
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PoE
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>>332015995
This. Get the final cut, it's good amount of hours to play and pretty fun. Might want to nab a rebanlance mod, the game is playable with all the classes but gets a little samey late game without one.
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>>332015674
>Ks'd Grim dawn
>Waited for it to be finished
>Started playing as a demolitionist, just killed the warden
>I have no idea what i'm doing

games actually getting a little hard now that there are ranged enemies. What are some good tips? I'm probably spending my skills and devotions wrongly.
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Marvel Heroes 2016

From the actual team behind Diablo 2
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>>332017640
What skills are you using? Where are you putting attribute points? We need more to go on.
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>>332017789
Level 23, been mostly using grenade, fire shot, and molotov with a 2 hander. Mostly cunning stat increases with a few physique increases. Nothing in spirit because it hasn't seemed necessary. Mostly relying on Chaos for devotion, and I finished the fiend constellation and for the skill where fire circles around you after an attack. Going for ranged, and the fire strike skill is limited to 2 handers for now. I figured i'd focus on fire and maybe piercing damage mostly.
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>>332017640
Demolitionist is ez mode.

Get the Molotov asap and it's gg. Does stupid damage, leaves an AoE that you can kite enemies around.

I did a Pyromancer build with Molotov, that splash grenade, the mortar and hotdog from the occultist tree. Pumped +fire gear, invested in some of the enabled passives that boost fire damage and watched everything get annihilated.
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PoE
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Victor Vran is different enough to be interesting
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>>332017775
Can I play Deadpool right from the start? I hear he can teleport around the map a bunch.
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Sacred 2 is still one of my favorites. Having a massive open world made it a really unique experience. Despite it's flaws it's a solid game.
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Man that fucking GrimDawn ending was so fucking underwhelming.
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>>332015674
>>sixty hours in this
>>never could get into Titan Quest
How? They are basically the same game.

>>332015995
I tried the second game, but I thought it was too clunky.
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>>332018221
I don't know the current list of starting heroes, but you can level all of them to level 10 at the start.

After that, you can use a currency earned in game to purchase more.

After the 2nd day you get enough currency to purchase Deadpool instantly
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>>332017980
Blackwater cocktail sucks, use grenado or canister bomb, flashbang is good cuz it debuffs your enemies a bunch and confuses them. Honestly, I would boost cunning just enough for weapon requirements, and then put attributes into physique for health and spirit to boost magic damage. Go for things that boost fire damage, but also elemental damage as well because that includes fire and lightning which you do both. Rhowans crown constellation is kickass for ranged weapons, when you complete it attach it to your default attack. The third tier upgrade for fire strike, static shock or something like that, will drive your dps way up, the aoe mid tier upgrade is good too. Demo is a squishy build because you have no skills that regen health, and blast shield only protects against certain things. In the long term the behemoth constellation would be a good idea. Are you going pure demo?
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>>332018954
>Blackwater cocktail sucks
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>>332018954
I thought the cocktail was pretty good but it is beginning to lose its luster. I thought canister bomb was weak but I just got it. I was gonna focus on fire strike, yeah. And i'll probably try to get Rhowans then, assuming I can get the devotion for it. And yeah, i'm pretty soft and will likely be going full demo here. I just wanted to blow shit up.
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>>332015995
That game is fucking TERRIBLE, well over half my time trying to play that game was spent reviving
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>>332019094
It does mid to late game compared to canister bomb and grenado
>>332019218
Rhowans is nice cuz it drops a elemental damage vortex in one spot that does continuous damage as long as the enemy stays in it, so it can be great for killing bosses and mobs. On the plus side, you can kite to counteract the squishyness.

Canister bomb is the tits, get the stun upgrade when you get the points for it, it's worth the lowered damage.
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>>332019692
Depends on the build. Obviously if you ignore fire and go +pierce grenado might be better but for pure fire Blackwater is your biggest source of sustained damage in the tree.

At 400%+ fire damage, Blackwater annihilates practically everything on Veteran and so far on Elite it hasn't changed much from my experience.
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How are nightblades in grim dawn?
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>>332020542
Squishy.
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>>332020614
But fun/good?
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>>332017775
are you meming or is it actually good?
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>>332020678
Do you enjoy dual wielding and shredding shit and occasionally dying in a blink of the eye and not knowing how?
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>>332020870
Yes. Call it high risk/high reward or just being as squishy as you are killy but its fun. But it needs to at least be decent too.
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>>332020464
Fair enough, can't beat canister for aoe tho. I play demo/arcanist, and olexras flash freeze is perfect compliment to fire because it debuffs fire resistance 100% at max, and combine that with a 16 meter radius around me, which is nearly the entire screen, and the freeze effect, and you get a combo that is OP as hell.
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Grim Dawn is slower than PoE, has worse graphics and less customization why the fuck would anyone pay for a game that is outdone by F2P trash?
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>>332020842
At this point I just assume any diabloclone with 'From the makers of D2' is a meme because every fucking diablo clone says that.
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>>332020842
It's really hit or miss with more emphasis on miss
it's less about the experience or more about the loot
Leveling can take anywhere from 3-4 hours to hit max, if you're new, to 15 minutes if you've played a while and during the right events
And there's definitely a tier list of heroes that are just too easy to play to some that are just tryhard tier to make good.
It's a real mix bag, I can shit on it for days but I always go back.
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>>332021078
>slower than poe

It literally is not

Also I tried poe and found it boring and slow

Fuck people who come into threads just to shitpost
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>>332021078
PoE is nothing but passives.

Shit puts you to sleep.
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>>332020956
It is decent.
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>>332021219
At least it has skills that aren't just auto-attack modifiers.
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>>332021359
So does Grim Dawn.
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>>332021359
That is literally what PoE is.
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Diablo 3 is the only clickfest that keeps my interest.
It's shallow as hell but at least the enemies rag-dolling everywhere brings some joy to the monotony of the combat.
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Shaman plus occultist bleeding build is fun and absolutely wrecks almost everything, , except when it comes to ghosts. Fuck those guys and their whole "I'm a ghost and have no blood so I can't bleed" they have going on.
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>>332021496
>>332021490
>i have literally no idea what i am talking about
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>>332021219
most GD skills boil down to ''empowers your auto attack'' and I doubt you even played PoE because passive skill tree is meant to synergize with skills you use they are not fucking skills themselves
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>>332021496
that's literally bullshit
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>>332021623
The passive tree is all you have control over.

Your skills are based on RNG drops.

Love that F2P model. ;^)
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>>332018635
I guess I'll give it a try, it ran like ass for some reason when I first tried it.
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>>332021590
But Grim dawn does have a shit ton of skills that aren't auto attack modifiers. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>332021623
>most Grim dawn skills modify your auto attack

Why are you lying?
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This whole Diablo clone genre is pretty unappealing to me.
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>>332021802
what fucking RNG drops are you even talking about? You can buy all of them from vendors.
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>it's a "grim cucks try to defend their shitty game" thread
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>>332021078
>Slower then PoE
That is literally impossible. You can have fun pre maps in Grim Dawn.
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>>332021976
cool!
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>>332021989
>all
At least 3 gems are not but he did used to be right. Though if he means slots on gear he is partially right.
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>>332022019
k
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>>332018587
id recommend the final cut version. it smooths over a lot of stuff and puts a lot of better later series mechanics into the older games.
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>>332022019
Actually its a
>Grim dawn people have their own discussion until assholes from poe drop in just to start shit for no reason thread
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>>332021940
Cadence, Markovian's Advantage, Brute Force, Savagery, Primal Strike, Fire Strike, Solael's Witchfire, Dual Blades, Phantasmal Blades, Iskandra's Elemental Exchange

that and this game has less skills than PoE in general

GD is pure shit deal with it
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Fabius pls
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>>332022412
>name one or two skills from each tree
>each tree has 5-7 skills
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>>332022412

that list is about 1 10th of the skills in the gam.

you thinking it's shit sounds like an opinion to me.
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>>332022527
Oops, meant to post this one.
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>>332022191
or just use Jeweller's Orb sure it never gave me 6 but 5 is enough anyway unless you run some expensive, gimmicky build that requires uniques
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>play as an Occultist specializing in poison damage and health leeching
>toss poison at enemies while my pets beat the shit out of them
>most of the damage is returned to me as health

Literally invincible.
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>>332022412
Grenado, black water cocktail, canister bomb, mortar, bloody pox, eye of dreeg, curse of frailty, sigil of consumption, hell hound, briar thorn, the shaman skill that makes thorns sprout up from the ground, mirror, flash freeze, sky shard ice attack thing, etc

All non auto modifiers, and thats not even half of them

See I can do it too you dumbass
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>>332022609
>>332022627
Also, half of them are buffs, not auto attacks.
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>>332022719
Sigil of consumption is awesome
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>>332022725
oh and speaking of demolitionist most of his skills are just reskins with different numbers on them, soldier is almost purely passives so that's pretty much whole 2 shit classes
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>>332022754

yeah auras too, i don't get what he's on about.
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>>332022810
Every spell in every game ever is just a reskin, bro.

;^)
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The only major let down in GD was the ending. Very anti-climactic.
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>>332022649
>Just go duel totems bro
>Just go ground slam bro
Man I wonder why PoE has Korean MMO drop rates. I'm sure it has nothing to do with skinner boxes.
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>>332022810
>most
>stun Jacks, flashbang, canister, grenado, cocktail, mortar, thermite mines

Literally wat
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>>332022950

I feel like maybe they should have made a little cutscene when you beat the boss or something.
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>Get to end game with a great build
>Lose all of my interesting in playing it anymore

what a fucking waste of time
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>>332015674
Do you guys know any decent Auzzie or NZ arpg youtubers? I need someone from the late timezone to sub to.
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>>332019306
git gud fagit
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>>332022810
Active skills for Soldier:
Cadence Forcewave Blitz Blade Arc Overguard Field Command War Cry Counter Strike Menhir's Bulwark Oleron's Rage
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>>332022950
What's the ending?
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>>332022810

Solider isn't "purely passives". The class does have a lot of them compared to others I think but his kit has good variety with charge, and the couple of AOE skills in there.
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>>332023360
There isn't one.

You kill some big monster and then your boss tells you to go take a break and celebrate.
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>>332023360
You kill Cthulu's brother.
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>>332023360
Basically the ending of borderlands kek

It was a let down, but the dungeon before the boss was cool.

They are working on an expansion, since a major plot point was purposefully left unresolved.
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The problem with Grim Dawn is that the skills are boring as fuck. And if a skill isn't boring as fuck it's either complete shit or has massive energy consumption.
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Are the van helsing games any good/worth trying?
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>>332023297
>"get gud"
>in an ARPG
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>really like Titan Quest
>always end up only playing it for like 5 hours before taking a year break before continuing
>still haven't completed it
What's wrong with me
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>>332023697
no
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>>332024718
Dunno anon, maybe you have ADD?
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>>332024714
Yes.
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>>332023190
BUMP
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>>332024853
Actually, I probably do. TQ seems to bring out the worst of my attention deficit though
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shaman + occultists master race.
>vitality damage
>leech on all damage types
>6 pets
>5 of the most useful auras
>as long as an enemy is present you cannot die

how can other class combos even compete?
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>>332024976
You don't "get gud" you "get better equipment", which doesn't matter in this game
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>>332025629
Dis nigga gets it, tho I don't run pet build. Curse of frailty + devouring swarm + sigil of consumption + savagery is beastly as well, tho probably less durable than your build
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>>332025818
You probably need to read the fucking skills and respec you tard. If you're dying a lot it's probably because your build sucks assholes.

>why doesn't it just build my character for me like diablo 3.

Ya, git gud.
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>>332027037
>restarted the game seven times
>never found a "working" build
the game is shit, don't get pissy about it
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>>332027407
There are a shit ton of working builds, what are you talking about? What builds did you play?
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>>332025404
I really like TQ just because of the greek mythology setting/theme but I never finished the game either.
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>>332027505
Why are you getting upset over this?
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I'm having trouble picking a class my first time through. I've restarted a bunch already any recommendations?
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>>332028148
Go shaman
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>>332027407
>still on my first charcter
>had to respec a few times
>it's awesome because i'm not a moron with a 60 iq

What are you even talking about? You couldn't even finish normal? top kek
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