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Going Commando was better on nearly all fronts. Stay mad.
try again
Ratchet 3 didn't have the boss fight on Snivelak.
Those ace bunyon titanium bolts tho...
>>331980871
both were pretty good
>>331981768
Or yetis.
>>331980871
A Crack in Time is the best Ratchet game
>>331981768
Ratchet 2 didn't have the worst fucking scavenger hunt area in the series (and yes, I'm factoring in the Yetis).
>>331980871
Crack in Time is the best in terms of plot and gameplay, just fucking accept it man.
Okay, lets go with the pro's of 2 and 3
2 had tight level design, good core gameplay, the best R.Y.N.O in the game and good weaponry(ignoring bouncer), introduction of strafing, good music and gladiator arenas were fun.
3 had really good weaponry, a good side missions system, more linear but rich level design, and the enemy variety is p.good, weapons returning from previous games were also really neat.
Anything Im missing?
>>331985151
Going Commando starts strong but gets much worse as it goes on.
>>331985151
>ignoring Bouncer
>>331985151
The shotgun sucked in 3
These American names confuse me. Can't we just call them 2 and 3?
>>331985295
Plasma Coil, Turret Glove, Seeker gun, Meteor Gun, all of them do the job better without being wastes of time like that fucking orange volleyball launcher, and unless memory is wrong, all but Coil are cheaper and out DPS it while also being acquired on good planets, and not that shit awful magnet boot dependant shithole. Good starting segment though, looked amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Wi6qMc1hM
>it's a DSP playthrough
GC
>shitty HUD
>fire button still O instead of R1
>shitty final boss
>sniveleak boss looooong and boring
>boring spaceship sections
>thief boss too easy
sure, the best
>>331985705
Going Commando = 2 words = 2nd Game
Up Your Arsenal = 3 words = 3rd Game
>>331985773
>it's the Bouncerfag AGAIN
every single thread
>>331982363
this.
I even liked Deadlocked. The core gameplay was solid and the online community was neat. The singleplayer experience was dogshit though.
>Up your Arsenal had the best bosses
>it had the best weapons
>it had the coolest worlds
>it had the most comedic story with better payoff at the end
>it had better Clank missions
>it had better music
>it had better comedy
>it had better side content
>it had the better RYNO (unless you fully upgraded it into that piss easy version)
Going Commando kids should be Going away.
>>331986041
Hey, not my fault it sucks ass, costs a bunch at that time you reach the planet to buy it and was always a massive disappointment. Always my last purchase on the game, from how shit it was.
Up Your Arsenal's only flaw is that it's a little on the shortside, especially in comparison to Going Commando, but yearly releases will do that.
>>331986262
but some weapons were OP as fuck such as that black hole shit
that fucking weapon let you rush through entire planets without stoping
I will never forgive Up your Arsenal for ruining Metropolis, my favourite level in RC1 and turning it into a linear corridor with a horrible boss fight.
Actually all boss fights besides Nefarious sucked.
>>331984660
>Actually enjoyed the desert hunt and got excited when I realized I'd do it again in the Tundra
>Then I played it and never came back as a kid.
How do you fuck up something that simple that hard?
>>331986463
>ruining Metropolis, my favourite level in RC1 and turning it into a linear corridor with a horrible boss fight.
It was a different part of the city you mong. Atleast it's still called "Metropolis" unlike the reboot.
>>331986713
Yeah, and how is that an excuse into having the entire level a single corridor that you never ever visit again?
>>331986264
>wastes time
>kills fucking everything
>>331986713
Qwark calls it Metropoilis in the recent trailer.
>>331986457
But it's not about overpowered weaponry, it's about best experience.
>>331986838
So does the Meteor Gun, Plasma Coil, Megaturret glove, Vaporizer, yknow, every weapon in the game minus the unleved fucking blaster or a mini-nuke.
>>331985151
Weapons scale better in 3. in 2, a lot of the weapons you got early in the game are useless near the end.
2 had more fun space content too (did 3 even have space content? i don't remember)
2 is comfier. since there's not very many characters outside of Ratchet and Clank, it does a good job of establishing the fact they're kind of alone in a strange galaxy.
>>331987203
Nah, 3 didn't have space combat, you were aboard the Phoenix, remember anon?
>>331987203
>2 had more fun space content too (did 3 even have space content? i don't remember)
no, but it lets you upgrade the spaceship lol
>>331987308
>>331987328
yeah I remember now, I put a lot more time into 2 than 3 (even though both were great, 2 clicked with me a lot more)
>>331986262
One thing I didn't like was that they resued the same Tyhrranoids and just changed their color and made them robots later
>>331987725
GC recycled the thugs too, they just had different weapons.
those spider robots were recycled too
Best girl from best game
Prove me wrong
>>331986936
It's called "Aleero City" in all I've seen.
>>331988338
With how Juanita looks in the movie I don't know if I'd want to see a new Courtney Gears or not.
>>331988338
Not enough porn.
>>331988350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Mjz1RTfkU
>>331986567
The level was made in under a week by one person
3 only had one shitty crystal grinding segment and it was far more tolerable then both of 2s
>>331988338
That's not how you spell Helga anon.
>>331988338thicc
>>331988761
>Every corridor is the same
>Only one enemy
>Magnet segments, can't flip or use charge boots
>Picking up literally shit
Yeah sure thing bub.
>>331988907
>>331988338
>>331988764
a man of high test
Do these games emulate well?
Kinda wanna play through them again but I sold ps3
>>331989061
last I checked, no, and because of how they render graphics they probably never will. something might have changed though, it's been a year or two.
>>331989061
>Even thinking of emulating Ratchet games
Oh anon, how naive of you
>>331988980
>No Yetis
That's the only argument I need
Going Commando had much more fun glitches
>>331989267
Enjoy your BLAAAAGH every five steps
>>331989061
Does it look like it?
>>331989368
Fine by me, they're slow and easy to kill
>>331989061
they emulate like shit.
>>331989249
>>331989258
>>331989420
>>331989490
Rip the dream. I had no clue it was so well established to be awful
>>331989420
You can always use software mode?
>>331989420
looks fine to me
>>331989456
> they're slow and easy to kill
Exactly. They make a boring ass level even more boring. The Yetis were bad yes, but not that horrible. Quit being a babby.
>>331989631
You could spend several grand on a PC with a monster CPU and emulate it at the same resolution and framerate as a PS2... Or just buy a real PS2 and real game for the same experience.
>>331989556
We had teams paid for a full year to make it work anon.
They couldn't do it. Give up and get the collection, its functional.
I can't put it in words, but there was a charm to 1 that 2 was missing. Little things like showing Ratchet hefting a gun he just bought. And the suck cannon.
Haven't played the others.
>>331989716
No, they were that horrible
Even the developers acknowledged it
>>331989842
They didn't just acknowledge it, they named an award after it.
>>331989842
I know they did, that's still no excuse to make the grinding level even more of a chore. You really can't deny even with your >muh Yetis that the sewer is worse in every single way. Just cos the enemies are easier doesn't mean it's still not a horrible chore.
>>331986262
RYNO II was better than the RY3NO, easy. A Minigun firing system > shotgun rocket system.
RYNOCERATOR was a fucking letdown in every way of the word.
>>331990014
It's a horrible chore, but the Yetis make it far more of a chore as opposed to the Amoeboids
>>331989332
>yfw Wrench Climbing for the first time.
>>331989842
But I actually like the Yetis, and the Meteor gun made short work of them.
Music and the general harshness made me love that place, even if I hate any place with less than 10ºCelcious in real life. Its just colecting the Crystals, while listening to the music
>>331990247
screen cleaner: the weapon
>>331990247
The RYNOCERATOR was just the zodiac wit more ammo
>>331988338
>A girl who wants to kill all organics in the universe
Yeah, naw.
>>331990931
except it was worse.
I can hardly remember anything about GC outside of the first few levels, the collectathon levels, spaceship battles and the end. That said a few levels are coming back to me, like the protopet invasion planet which was great.
UYA is way more memorable though: the starship pheonix, Q Force, Quark's mission plan, Quark going rogue; great planets throughout, great final boss.
Deadlocked is the best game.
>>331992503
I only played the HD re-release which I don't think had multiplayer. In any case it was formulaic and a great chore.
>>331992792
It did.
>>331992828
Is it still active?
>>331992792
Did it only have local co-op? If so, that was a hell of a missed opportunity.
>>331992946
Both UYA and Deadlocked had local and online multiplayer. Not sure about online co-op but probably local only.
They shut down the PS2 servers (which were up as late as 20-fucking-12) to start up PS3 servers for the HD rerelease of both games.
>>331992928
I imagine UYA would be more active.
>>331992946
I don't know about online multiplayer, but it had local co-op which dropped the framerate to single digits.
I don't know how they managed to fuck up Deadlocked when the HD trilogy was fine.
The Lava Gun is objectively better in 3 than in 2.
>>331993093
The HD trilogy was pretty glitchy too.
>>331989420
i'm surprised nobody has worked on making an open source fan engine for these games
>>331985151
>Implying the Bouncer isn't elder god tier
I didn't get a chance to respond to you in last night's thread, so I'll just say that nobody shares your shit opinion on this.
>>331989752
>several grand
kek
My 4690k emulates it pretty good in software mode
>>331993206
>enjoying the fuck out of the Lava Gun
>suddenly final upgrade, brace for the impact of something completely terrible like the Meteor Gun
>motherfucking Liquid Nitrogen Gun
>>331993215
I've heard a number of people say it was a poor port but I've played through all 3 multiple times and never had an issue with it.
>>331980871
Going Commando was my favorite until I had to replay the game 3 times to get the platinum trophy, then another 3 times to get it on the Vita.
I've played GC so much that I've started to have recurring dreams about being on Aquatos.
>>331993461
>Liquid Nitrogen Gun
Hnnnnnng brb replaying
Definitely not better in regards to weapon upgrades.
>tfw sold the future trilogy
Really want to replay them now, though I looked up some gameplay of ToD and it's somehow aged pretty horribly. The HUD especially looks awful.
>>331993592
>Aquatos
I'm confused, are you talking about GC or UYA? Aquatos is Nefarious's Secret Base with the sewer crystals.
>>331980871
PFF go back to your mama you dirty casual. R&C3 was the fucking pinnacle of the series, it was all downhill from there.
>>331993390
I got deep into the game and the slowdowns make continuing unbearable.
>>331993791
>sewer crystals
and dont remind me
Hunter Mine Launcher >>>>> Bouncer
Scorpion Flail > Flame Whip
Ice Modded Dual Vipers >>>>> All
Deadlocked had the best weapons
>>331984660
>>331984364
>people STILL get this buttblasted by the yeti's
>didn't just genocide the whole planet, killing every single one
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>>331993890
Also meant to specify I used an overclocked 4690k and ran it in software mode with recommended settings.
>>331993725
>selling vidya
>ever
When will people learn?
>>331980871
going commando has the most guns, better challenge mode, first person wall climb gitch and the yetis are a good thing because being able to come back and genocide them all with a maxed out bouncer or rhyno is really satisfying
>>331993890
>>331993995
Did put one less than the number of cores your CPU has in the extra rendering threads option?
What PCSX2 version did you use?
>>331993982
Well it got an award named after it for it's shenanigans
>>331994325
>Did put one less than the number of cores your CPU has in the extra rendering threads option?
Yea
>What PCSX2 version did you use?
Latest alpha build or whatever at the time, but that was a few months ago.
Size Matters was okay.
Siege mode wascomfy
>>331994573
>alpha build
Those builds break more things than they fix
>>331994869
Likely wasn't the problem there.
>>331985151
>not mentioning how great multiplayer in 3 was
Fag.
>>331995292
It wasn't bad, but R&C wasn't made for multiplayer.
Did the bullshit with the Galactic Rangers ruin UYA for anybody else? The missions are just flat-out boring and you pretty much need to do them if you want to actually get all the weapons
>>331995457
>wasn't bad
Shit was fun as hell, doesn't matter if the series was "designed" for it, it worked. A hell of alot better than deadlocked did.
>>331988338
Proved you wrong.
>>331995725
Those missions where my favorite part of UYA. I found them fun, especially the Hovership missions.
>>331996031
they're fun for the first mission or two but after that they become extremely repetitive.
Up Your Arsenal > Going Commando > Deadlocked > Ratchet & Clank
>>331989420
>Ratchet Visits Xen.png
>>331996140
Different strokes for different folks I guess
>>331995801
Are PS2 servers still up? I've been thinking about making a thread where we all hook up our PS2s online and play multiplayer games not available anywhere else. Like Jak X and R&C. Gen 6 multiplayer was fun as hell.
>>331996649
Dead since 2012 in exchange for PS3 servers.
>>331996649
What about xlink kai? Are the HD versions fine to play online?
I never beat two but I thought the original was the best
Ratchets snarky attitude
The introduction of all characters
No pause when selecting your weapons or strafing made it a bit more challenging
The fact enemies can die with at least 1-2 wrenches for a majority of the game reminds me of spyro
Great music and locations
The story is simple while charming and a bit humorous
I felt 3 went a little over the edge with the space drama, but Courtney Gears singlehandedly redeems itself
>mfw getting the rocket boots in A Crack in Time
>literally glide my way through every level
Fuck me, this shit feels so good.
ACiT is a 10/10.
>>331997375
>liking Cuntchet
>defending poor game design because "it makes the game more challenging"
Jesus..
>>331997375
>The introduction of all characters
most of the characters just give you some sort of item and then you never see them again, going did this also
>>331997741
How is it poor game design? You don't have to have that on, it makes you think on the spot with no pause
I always took it off whenever possible in a r&c game
No strafing makes the movement of the character more fluid and in more control IMO, similar to dark souls and no locking on
>playing ToD again
>mfw the Shard Reaper
So satisfying.
>>331997375
Im playing the first one right now for the first time and I have to say is a fucking solid great game, but is getting a bit dragged by the item hunting.
Other than that is a really good game but Ratchet is not snarky is a fucking cunt. Clank faces him and says him that he is trading millions of lives for just chasing Quark or however is called and the guy just shrugs it off.
>No pause when selecting your weapons or strafing made it a bit more challenging
Nigga you can pause and select the thing,
>>331980871
GC2:
>introduced some fantastic weapons
>concept art-tier levels; arguably the overall best in the entire series
>best RYNO in the series
>weapons become obsolete far too quickly
>weapons are incredibly hit-&-miss & several are outright useless (looking at you, Clank Zapper)
>gimmicks were also hit-&-miss
>Tony Garcia's 3-day, Snowbeast Award-winning level
UYA:
>comedy at an all-time high
>plot the perfect amount of depth/seriousness/fun
>brought back some of the best weapons from GC & improved on them even more
>weapons are far more balanced (aside from Shock Blaster)
>2 quick select rings
>swingshot/dynamo no longer require equipping
>arena is second only to Deadlocked
>gimmicks were just 'fine' - none particularly good, none particularly bad
>level art design is arguably the worst in the entire series
>worst fully-upgraded superweapon in the series
It's tight & I can get why you'd prefer GC, but UYA's the one for me
