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Would pic related be good as baby's first mmo?

Never let played an mmo before but it seems fun and interesting. Don't have any buddies that play it though, so gotta consider that fact.
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>>331793919
yes.
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There is no point in playing a "babby's first MMO" because it's incredibly dumbed down compared to any single player RPG and the social aspect isn't even that big because of the poor design.

If someone had never played a platformer before, would you recommend them Mario or some Barney the Dinosaur flash game?
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Nah, the combat is pretty dull

I would only play it if youre really into Final Fantasy
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It's good if you're FF fan.
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Play it only if you like Final Fantasy since the game is targeted towards FF fans

Also a XIV thread just died.
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If you do start playing don't pick Gridania. They're a bunch of Elemental fucking sluts.
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>>331793919

Base guild war 2 is free to play all the way to 80 the only content block is X pac stuff.
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>>331795703
>If someone had never played a platformer before, would you recommend them Mario or some Barney the Dinosaur flash game?

I'd probably recommend they play Mario before they play I Wanna be the Guy.
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>>331798729
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>>331798747
Guild Wars 2 is genuinely horrible, though. One of the biggest moments of buyers remorse for me, can't believe I sunk 50 quid on it.
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>>331798747
Buy it then free to play with heavy incentives for you to buy shit like bag space you mean.
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>>331798812
>living in a city that has to do whatever the elementals want or risk being fucking obliterated
Cuck
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>>331798812
Implying it's not true.
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>>331798934
>living in a city controlled by pirate rapists
>living in a city controlled by jews
I'll take the one that smell nice.
>>331798990
No.
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>>331798880

no all the pre exp stuff is free to play now any one can sign up you just cant use map chat so it not Blade and soul gold seller land..

gold into gems to buy bag slots iy only takes few hours to get the gold.
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>doing feast as AST for first time
>wonder why nobody ever tries to focus me down
>ever
>the one time they do they end up wiping and losing all their pressure from trying to focus me
>pop Attunement/Celestial Opposition
>BLM LB pops right over me
>on top of all their melee/tanks
KEK
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>>331799086
Yes.
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>>331798729
>>331798990
raya-o is the best girl of the game
this is not debatable
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>>331798402
I wanna cuddle with a qt sylph.
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>>331798729
RAYA-O PORN WHEREEEEE?!?!?!?!
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>started playing again
>mfw skill attrition
How does one retrain themselves as a healer? If I were a DPS I could just slap a training dummy for 10 minutes but stance dancing while keeping people alive and popping cooldowns effectively takes a lot more of my rusted skill and intuition.
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>>331799546
It's not hard, just pop a regen on them.
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does anyone have that image of the lizard drk with all the edgelord macros?
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>pvefags
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>>331799397
If you were given the chance would walking ones fuck these ones?
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Literally thread after thread
>but muh /vg/
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>>331793919
yeah, its a baby's first MMO, but its rather decent.

The only problem is the lack of community. No one talks; "GO LOOK AT YOUTUBE VIDEOS OR READ GUIDES DONT BOTHER FUCKING COMMUNICATING TO PEOPLE IN THIS GAME" is the kind of shit you'll find here.

So you play with friends, join a guild, and expect to play a single player game marketed as a MMO.

At the end of the day, it has so many good features and then they just removed what made MMOs all about community. Earlier on in its life before dungeon finder and stuff there was community though.
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New Greg quest when?
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>>331799924
Cute ones are for cuddling, not fucking.
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>>331799929
You mean like Senran, DoA, Souls, FE? XIV threads are far less common.
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>>331798747
Guildwars 2 has some of the worst incompetent SJW 10 year old writting I've ever fucking seen. If you ignore the story though, the game is "ok" but the combat is shallow as fuck to the point that why didn't they make it real time combat instead of hotkey bar shit. Then there is the mosh pit/zerg shit they encourage instead of keeping their original strategy/synergy shit they had planned before.

Literally would be a decent game if they kept synergy a thing instead of dumbing it down like they did.
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>>331800248
There's one up as soon as one dies. OP is a false flagging faggot who came from the last thread that died 20 minutes ago.
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>>331800294
yeah SJW writters shoehorning their original do not steal plant race everywhere and terrible pro LGBT messages everywhere.
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>>331800346
Why don't you go take issue with the 3+ NX threads you little nigglet.
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>>331800045
small talk is one thing, but you should watch videos and guides for content because nobody likes typing instructions on the whole encounter for every lazy little shit that comes in saying "hi i'm new how do i tank"

i'ts a time waster and annoying as fuck
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>>331800053

Hopefully soon. Hildy's quests were the best part of 2.1-2.5 and the main reason I looked forward to each patch.
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>Been unsubbed for months
>Got the MMO itch
>All my buddies are playing WoW
>But my itch is exclusively for XIV

>All these XIV threads constantly
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>>331800294
>If you ignore the story though, the game is ok, but the combat is shallow as fuck

>If you ignore the thing that should be irrelevant the game is ok, but the thing that should comprise the bulk of the game is shallow as fuck

??????
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>>331800564
Also.
>He does it for free, for free.
If mods don't like it then they'll delete the threads.
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I think what bothers me about the storytelling in this game is that nothing can ever really change since it's an MMO.

We fight and kill Gaius and all that shit goes down, but the empire's bases are always gonna be there. No matter how many times we fight the beast tribes they'll always be right outside of town, or summoning a primal again or whatever.

Makes it feel like you're really never accomplishing anything significant.
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>>331799726
>DRG not only dead, but double-weak
>WAR probably using an annoying as fuck berserk macro
>WHM isn't in clerics
>BLM seems to be the only one knowing what they're doing

How the fuck do you die in Antitower though.
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>>331800726
>Story
>Irrelevant in video games.
Okay kid.
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More challenging than WoW, at least. Moreso than most MMOs. Combat seems slow but becomes about as rapid as any other once you start getting your off-GCD abilities. Love the art style and music. Story's great.

Basically the best MMO on the market with the best and arguably hardest raids with the best mechanics. Honestly nothing else currently comes close. I'll give Legion a try when it comes out, but WoD has been a snorefest.
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>>331800863
I really want them to nuke the game again.
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>picked up this game back in May expecting nothing at all
>almost 1 year later and I'm still no lifeing the fuck out of this game
>the most I played in one sitting was 20 hours
>this has been going on for the past 2 weeks with no end in sight

I need help, why the fuck is this game so addicting.
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>>331793919
No, it's boring and easy and the only requirement is a lot of time (not like 'git gud' time investment, like 'repeat tedious thing eight million times' investment).

I know that's basically the definition of MMOs

TERA is the only MMO with fun gameplay in existence, WoW is the only MMO with fun/challenging raid content (I guess Wildstar's is also very challenging, but it's a dedgame so it's disqualified)
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>>331800863
>We fight and kill Gaius and all that shit goes down, but the empire's bases are always gonna be there.

Killing a guy doesn't make the bases explode and the army go poof. The fact that they're still there is a plot element post ARR story.
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This story is probably the shittiest out of any FF game. It's not even memorable, if you're WoWfugee and you think XIV is the only game that exists in the series then maybe I can see why it'd stick with you.

Same with the characters who's going to remember Nael over Kefka? Fucking no one, villains are all "literally who?"
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>>331793919
Just play vanilla wow on nostalrius
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>>331800930

My friend posted that screenshot. He said the DRG died 60 times over the dungeon until all his gear was broken. 30 times alone on Ziggy.

Also how autistic do you have to be to recognize antitower from that picture but not notice the DRG's HP?
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>>331801081
>John "The Hack" Carmack

Name your 5 favourite games right now, buddy.
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>>331800930
>How the fuck do you die in Antitower though.

I just got out of one, I was healing and the bard who died 2-3 times on each boss was constantly standing in AOE and refused to kill any of the stardust adds which resulted in him dying. I didn't get mad though, a lot of the shitty players are people who've never played an MMO or are used to faceroll dungeons like in WoW, best I could do was tell him to not stand in AOEs and to try and focus on adds whenever he sees one pop out. I got 3 comms at the end so I want to believe he took some of my advice to heart.
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>>331801126
Not hard to recognize the floor of a place you've been through 20 times.
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>>331801081
>Makes fps games that lasts few hours compared to rpgs.
Yeah no shit he doesn't care about story.
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>>331801057

Well I mean in the buildup to that final fight with Gaius the game tells you all this crazy fighting is going on between the cities and the empire (offscreen of course) so you'd think they'd want to rid them completely.
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>>331800863
>nothing can ever really change since it's an MMO.

It doesn't *have* to be that way, Asheron's Call 2 changed the game world every patch.

GW1 and WoW have phasing, allowing the world to change

GW2 has had a bunch of stupid crap happen where the main hub city got destroyed for a while and then rebuilt
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>>331800863
This is especially bad when it comes to Alex.
>he sucks all the aether from the hinterlands just by raising his fists
>none of the plant life dies, or even browns
They've shown they can retexture/remodel objects between patches and quests with the Warring Triad growing mossy. For fucks sake SE, kill a few trees or something. It completely undermines the sense of danger.
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>>331801014

Tell me your secret. I'm currently grinding my way through 3.0's levelling quests and it's so boring I want to die.
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>>331801319
Uses too much memory for the PS3 to handle.

Please look forward to it.
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>>331801057
Anon, the place we fought gaius in literally blew up afterwards. Literally. Not to mention that the warrior of light and his 7 friends genocided everyone who was inside them, so the eternal flames and maelstrom should have moved in and used those strongholds as their own.

Phasing should be a thing in ff14, but i know what the hacks in charge will say: 'muh ps3 limitations'.

When in realiy it's just laziness and turbo jewness.
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>yfw you realize the rock floating in front of alexander's head you can stand on will turn into his head once part 3 comes out and he fully gets out of that lake
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>>331801356
that's because leveling is a fucking chore it's honestly the worst part about this game, the story is meh at most even during heavensward so it adds onto the tedious nature of "go to x and grab x then teleport back to x"

once you get capped and start working on getting your butt geared, primals, ex primals for mounts and weapons, and fucking crafting/gathering/leveling other classes you'll realize that there isn't enough time in the day to fucking play this game.
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>>331801339
typically because you stop it before it starts really draining the surrounding land

you cant really have a sense of urgency in an mmo other wise you'd be cutting features for the sake of story
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>>331801245
RPGs tend to not have good gameplay.
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>>331801157

Doom
Doom 2
Doom 3
Doom 64
FFXIV
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>>331801685
>XIV
>Favourites
Shit taste desu senpai
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>>331801509
you do know you never really assaulted and wiped out that base near more donuts right?

you do know garlean forces are waay to the north east of gridania right?

and not just gaius' troop
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>>331801776
I bet you he plays on Balmung
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>>331801776
>That stache
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>>331801014
I know that feel. I unsubbed because I was spending 10 hours a day on the game.
The withdrawal is real.
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> running lvl 50 dungeon roulette
> It's a tank pulls only 1 pack episode

Why do such people exist?
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>>331801065
>Look mom I posted it again
final fantasy barely had a plot until 6
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>Picked Lancer
>made a catboi
>Want to become a Dragoon

>started going through some FF14 threads
Jesus christ I reached the trifecta of shitter. I dodge AOEs and figured out the way lancer's stuff combos together for damage. I'll learn the game as well. I'm so sorry I scrambled and ran in circles and kept selecting the bloody scroll from my key items when everyone disappeared in the haunted mansion. I thought you just like access a portal or something I didn't know I had to use return to go to the beginning of the level and head up stairs, I eventually figured it out but I'm so sorry

I JUST WANT TO USE SPEARS AND BE A SEXY CAT
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any cute dank knights here?
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>>331801782
You do know that i'm talking about those fortesses that we actually do assault, right?
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>>331802180
remove shitter DRK
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>>331801065
I gotta ask. Who the fuck is nael?
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>>331802180
Cure that disgusting skin condition first, then we'll talk about cute.
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>>331802370
The guy who dropped Dalamud and the boss of Coil turn 9. Watch the 1.0 cutscenes. Nael is fucking amazing.
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>>331802370
Original FFXIV bad guy.

Coil of Bahamut bad guy.
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>>331802071
>Healer tells the tank to pull more
>"k"
>They still only pull one pack
>Alright whatever we'll just be here longer I guess
>Realize they thought "pull more" meant "fight every pack in the dungeon even if they're not required"
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any PLDs out there?
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>>331802119
>>Look mom I posted it again
what?
>final fantasy barely had a plot until 6
and this is the 14th entry, Yoshida, explain why you can't make decent memorable characters.
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>>331801014
Because you have incredibly low standards and I'm going to assume this is your first and only FF game.
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>>331802668
>Suncat

>>331802180
>Raen

Shit taste desu senpai
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>>331802559
I thought the boss of t9 was a girl.
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>>331799149
What's the best way to grind gold for gems right now?

I just hate having to spend money on shit that should've been in the game (bag slots, character slots) but I wouldn't mind grinding for it.
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>>331802896
It is but saying "That guy" is easier.
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>>331802896
In Japan, it's treated as a Samus moment where Nael was a girl all along. In English, they say Bahamut fucked up when he pulled his aether back from death. Yoshi's official stance is that Nael was always a man.
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>>331801782

The problem is the way the game is designed (being an mmo) doesn't allow anything to ever end. No matter what you do, the best they can offer is a hand wave and a "well we stopped blah blah for the moment."

This is bad because the story wants you to be so invested in it, despite the actual game world neutering any sense of real progression.
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>>331803045
>what is FFXI
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>>331803045
like they ended 1.0 stuff right?
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>>331801509
>Phasing should be a thing in ff14, but i know what the hacks in charge will say: 'muh ps3 limitations'.
They didn't bother figuring out the most basic of phasing until Heavensward, and even then it's just model swaps (while retaining same collision boxes/boundaries), not straight up environment changes like WoW had.
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>>331799924
when was this
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>>331802071

>Running dungeon
>It's a tank moves on before the mob is dead leaving the melee DPS chasing after them like it's fucking Benny Hill episode
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>some bored individual ported back optional mount music and gearsets into XIV1.0
https://youtu.be/RpS1ltyNsow
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>>331803384
After you get Trusted reputation with all ARR beast tribes (including the ixali) there's a special quest chain you can do afterwards, Sylvie is from that quest chain.
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>>331801776
Looks like FrankJavCee.
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>>331801065

Gaius is the memorable villain of FF14 though, and he's definitely up there with some of the best. Nael is pretty good too but she's intentionally supposed to be a Sephiroth clone and doesn't stand out that much on her own.

Hopefully Gaius survived and will return later to kill the new emperor and fuck shit up. His sword isn't called Heirsbane for nothing.

He might be the guy with the mask at the end of the 3.2 quest, actually.
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>>331802071
>>331802071
Because when i pull every pack from start to the second plant in hard keep everyone starts crying

They're under a god given vuln-applying tentacle, and these shitters STILL cry
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>>331802071
New to 50 stuff and aren't comfortable with big pulls yet just give them advice and tell them to pop defensive cooldowns and spam their AoE
Also
>It's a ____ episode episode meme
Back to /r9k/ dumb frog poster.
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>>331799924
anyone who is branded with that hair style is INSTANT qt to me

mfw no one does
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>>331803761
>fem thancred
>fem urianger

I would
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>>331803485
I wish him all the best. If he sets up a patreon I'd support him without hesitation. I want my home back. Yoshi-P and co have ruined the world so much there's no hope for it anymore.
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Do you have yours /v/?
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>>331804117
He has a Paypal tip jar on one of his sites. I mostly just follow his blog because I find it interesting reading his process of reverse engineering the game and old recorded packets, and writing his own MMO server code to be able to handle it all piece by piece.
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>>331803761
if the WoL is female, the Scions seem like a real clam festival
thancred is the only notable male, papalymo and urianger never do anything important
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>>331804328

But Alphinaud
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>>331804368
fuccboi, may as well be a girl
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>>331801054
People played TERA for anything other than being a degenerate pedophile?
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>>331803761
>Femphinaud actually looks busty.
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>>331802149
>catboi
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>>331804537
>not a cat
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>>331804193
>tfw I got it and sincerely want to help newbies
>Mentor chat is just a cesspool of circle jerking
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>>331803761
>FemPapa
I want to fuck it
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>>331804415
It was fun for a while back when people who weren't chinese farmers played.
But really, I only played because I wanted to fuck everybody, males included
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>>331804593
It's the fucboi part that's the problem.
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>>331804593
I'm a cat though, just not a manlet with eye wrinkles.
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>>331793919
Any mmo would be a good first mmo. Some things to consider though if you do decide to pick up xiv is that it has a few major difference from most other popular mmos, characters can change classes at any time and you'll have to level more than one class to get all your skills and unlock jobs, which means that the game is built on you playing only 1 character.

The game is very solo friendly though, it has an entire story which is mostly single player where you have to occasionally do dungeons and you'll have to get through the entire original main story to even get into the newest expansion.

Although once you've done the main story leveling additional classes is pretty much a pain since it involves just spamming dungeons by the time you're to your 5-6th job you'll probably be pretty sick of it.
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>>331804328
I'd say Urianger is pretty important. He just doesn't get terribly much screentime, but that comes with his role. Papalymo is literally just a punchline generating add-on for best girl Yda, though.

And Minfilia's extremely timely demise improves the situation somewhat. Although I guess Krile imbalances it again.
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>>331799726
Wait

How is it even possible for the drg's hp to be that low at level 60?
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>>331804947
Don't worry, Krile will inevitably give up her life to bring Minfilia (who immediately gets kidnapped by the Garleans or something) because that's just how things have to be.
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>>331803737
Tell them to fuck off then. There's plenty of other non-whiney dps in the sea.
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>>331805020
Well, he broke all of his equipment and was suffering from resurrection sickness.
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>>331798747
Guild wars 2 is legitimately horrible though, even most of the p2w korean grindfests that've been being brought over lately are better than it.
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500,000 gil on Ferdiad being a boss in the next leg of void ark
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>>331804646
>want to actually help people as a mentor
>they don't listen at all to any advice you give and play so badly it's nearly impossible to carry them even through baby content
>tfw I'm too much of a moralfag to explode at them or just ragequit while I have the mentor crown on

I just took that shit off again. I want the freedom to tell unrepentant shitters how terrible they are and leave them high and dry without being a hypocrite about it.
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>>331803761
I want to fuck Yd and Y'shtol.
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>>331804796
are those two some canon couple or just some elvaan and mithra?
there are hella lot of cute picktures of them
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>>331804714
That's the only reason I played Vindictus.But the gameplay was pretty good until nobody played it anymorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fah4u86irOo
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>>331804947
>yda
>anything but a dog on a leash
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>>331804193
Someone in my linkshell got this not cause she wanted to help newbies out. But just cause she wanted a lil' crown by her name and it just.
Disgusts me to see this case non-stop.
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>>331804328
They've been hinting that urianger is going to be important for a while now though with the whole talking to the ascians thing and the fact that we're going into some sort of story about the WoD and the ascians.
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>>331805397
yda is SEXVOICE in german
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>>331805482
Urianger is an Allagan. It's the reason why he's always worn goggles, to hide his eyes.
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>>331805454
That's why everyone got the crown dude. You don't need a shiny crown by your name to help new people.
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>>331805454
>>331805615
If you wanted a golden crown that doesn't mean anything, why not just go to Burger King instead? At least there you can also get some chicken fries or some other garbage you can put into your body.
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>>331805397
I could live with that considering I would greatly enjoy petting her and rubbing her belly.
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>>331805791
You can't show off a BK crown to all the other 'glamour is endgame' cat shitters in your FC.
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>love helping people
>level AST to 60 as the final piece
>see that I need 1000 raids/trials
>not dungeons
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>>331805867
All races say this you racist.
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>>331805867
cats are a proud and pure race
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>>331805867
But you can show off one of the several different glamor crowns you get through achievements, including one you get at 50 or 100 (I forget which) commendations.
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>>331805894
It's dungeons+raids+trials
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>>331805615
Yeah that is pretty much true. Just kinda urks me that this was the fate of the whole mentor thing.
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>>331804193

I only went Mentor for the Roulette. Removed the crown as soon as I got it. I hate gaudy shit like that and I hate seeing so many crowns everywhere.
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>>331799546

Go to Aurum Vale. That will get you caught up as a healer.
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>>331805530
He also had something to do with ending the sixth astral era and reforming the grand companies, he's probably the most powerful of the scions that are left so it'll be interesting to see what he's been doing with the ascians
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>>331805867
Lizard girls too.
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>>331800930

Shitty DPS

especially on the first and second boss
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>>331806124
This.
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>>331806456

He'll probably join up with Elidibus and Warrior of Dorkness after they reveal to him the truth about the whole Hyadelyn / Zodiark business. Or character will do /shocked and proceed to do nothing at all.
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>>331805397

That's not very nice. Yda is like one of the most chill characters in the game.
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>>331806386

Is it really all that important for a WHM to be putting out damage in most dungeons? I usually only ever hit mobs with an aero if I have nothing to do.

I guess I'm paranoid something bad will happen and I'll be in cleric stance or the tank will be mad I'm generating more hate or something.
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>>331806617
why cant the west just be SOFT AND FLUFFY
it doesnt matter what race except roe and highlander females WHY DOES EVERYONE JUST WANNA BE A SLUTTY AS POSSIBLE
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>Warrior of Darkness
>Literally a Warrior.
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>>331806846
It's important if you don't want to be an awful WHM
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>>331806846

You just have to adapt to your tank. If he's mitigating damage well and avoiding AoEs you know you can enter Clerics and go wild. If he's doing stuff wrong you'll have to be much more careful with Cleric usage.
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>>331806846
Arguably in leveling content you could run the risk of letting others die you're inexperienced. By the time you hit level cap and start doing that content, it'll be so braindead and you'll be so overgeared that you can pop a regen and then just start DPSing and it'll be fine.
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>>331806846
>Is it really all that important for a WHM to be putting out damage in most dungeons?
Yes.
Healing is easy, so the only way to polish your skills is to DPS while healing. At 60 if you're not putting out at least 800 DPS in farm dungeons then you're a shitter, and yes this unfortunately means it's mandatory to meld accuracy to your gear.
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>>331806846
>I usually only ever hit mobs with an aero if I have nothing to do.

This is actually how it's supposed to be. Unless you're in a progression raiding group, your DPS output is purely bonus. The main reason that you're expected to DPS is that healing is generally so easy that you'll end up just doing nothing a lot of the time, and you might as well use that time to DPS. You should never overextend if you feel that shit might go down, though. As you get more experienced, you'll end up realizing that you don't actually have to be at the ready most of the time and DPSing will become more natural and feel less risky. Also, even the most saintly healer will eventually lose patience with shit duty finder DPS.
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>>331806846
>Is it really all that important for a WHM to be putting out damage in most dungeons?

No, outside of current savage content you can just heal if you want to, but dungeons will go faster if you do dps. Most roulette groups won't expect you to anyway, I see schs put up eos and practically go afk all the time.
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>>331806846
No, it's not important for you to be outputting damage, but it'll take your mind off of just standing there and casting Cure/Cure 2 every once in a while.

As with all healers, knowing what your party is going to be facing next is key to being the best. Oh yeah, and if a Tank loses aggro do to a healer DPSing, he's a shitty Tank and you should stand up for yourself and tell him as such. -Healer main
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In the next section of Void Ark, trash pulls should drop accessories on a separate lockout to gear

Y/N?
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>>331807154
>and yes this unfortunately means it's mandatory to meld accuracy to your gear.
Let's not get crazy here.
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>>331807417
There should be only one trash pull and it should be a pure DPS check.
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>>331807154

In cleric stance?

Because I do 1600-1900 damage when I use stone 3 in cleric stance
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>>331803673
>Nael
>She

But anon that's wrong
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>>331807154
Even if it wasn't mandatory I would still do it because it's frustrating as fuck to see my spells constantly missing in fucking dungeons.
Shame my whm is just my roulette alt so I only have a few 220 pieces so far with acc in them.
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>>331807417
Trash should just drop currency in general so you can buy the shit you want as your weekly in the offchance it doesn't want to drop for you that week, or you keep getting outlotted.
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>>331807417
Thee should be no trash pulls ever. No one goes to the dungeon to waste 15 minutes out of 20 on trash. It's not fun, it's not challenging, it's not fullfilling. It's arbitrary, boring and completely brain dead. Dungeon trash needs to go unless it's actually challenging. Like tempest keep trash in wow, hell most trash in BC dungeon was challenging and requied planning and controlling, especially if you were undergeared. That shit was awesome.
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>>331808039

Mistranslationfag pls go
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>>331807705
Well unless you're casting stone 3 every second that's not your dps
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>>331801204
Having someone actually listen to your advice is really satisfying. I was leveling a dps in qarn when I was matched with a lvl 50 tank, but she didn't know anything about tanking whatsoever, nothing at all,she didn't even use tomahawk> flash she just ran up to them and hit them. So I had to rely on my lvl 33 pld knowledge to tell a lvl 50 basic tank knowledge that you get by playing the game.It's like they trained her wrong on purpose, as a joke
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>>331808364
It's not really a mistranslation it's just a judgement call that ended up backfiring because English doesn't have a real gender neutral pronoun and the jap dev team didn't give them all the information(or more likely is making it up as they go along)
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>>331808385
>>331808385

It's my first mmo and my first character so I'm not sure what all the jargon is or means
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>>331808748

You're better off just learning on your own than asking here for advice if it's your first time. I wouldn't even bother with stance dancing until you're absolutely sure you won't fuck it up when big numbers start flying across the screen.
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>>331808748
You can cast stone III roughly every 2.5 seconds.
1750/2.5 = 700 damage per second
And that's only if you chaincast Stone 3.

Download a parser; Google Advanced Combat Tracker and get the FFXIV plugin.
Then you can start aspiring to better yourself while simultaneously raging at incompetent DPS players like the rest of /v/.
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>>331809146

Well I already know to dps and change from cleric to normal when fighting.
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>AST gives me extended Spear, as Ninja
>mfw
I can't hold all these Raitons
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>>331809821
>AST says fuck it with his RNG and AoE Spears
>Everyone's CD timings are fucked up as a result for the rest of the fight
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>>331810004
>be mch
>wildfire hits
>get spear
t. hanks
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>>331810147
Still wish MCH had a means of forcing Wildfire to end early.
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>>331801126

what sort of sadistic healer kept rezzing him like that?

reminds me of the 'titan hm was endgame' days. rezzing someone just meant they'd die during the next tumults
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>>331810261

I miss those days. My entire FC hadn't quit back then.
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>>331808301
What map is this?
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I was tanking in defiance most of the time....I'm shocked we even beat enrage. How do these people even get to A8?
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>>331810779
Second tier of Void Ark.
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>>331810853
I usually state upon entering an A8 (as heals) that if I see two sets of pentacles at the start I'm just going to suicide and leave.
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I'm a big final fantasy fan and this is the first mmo I've ever subbed to. I'm loving it. I hit level 30 the other night and unlocking my job made it that much more fun. Found a really cool FC to join too
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>>331810853
Oh god, at least the Scholar was pulling his weight, but hot damn is that a shitty group
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>>331811176

You're going to love it a lot more in just a few more levels, when the story starts getting real.
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>>331811431

yeah, real exciting. GO GET MY CHEESE BITCH
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>>331810853
>tfw they'll never make SSS mandatory for DF content with adequate DPS requirements
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I only played this to hang with my gay roes. After maxing most of my crafting and working the economy to make millions, I started to get board with it.
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>>331811821
At least 90% of the male roes I know are gay, the race attracts them like magnets.
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>>331812186
its the bara race of course it does
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I want to fuck an unprocessed basket of french fries
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>>331812186
Bara is a popular gay fetish. It's not just a meme.
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>>331811485
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>>331813131
Oh believe me, I know

I just like posting these
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>>331798402
It isn't if you are a fan of summoning FF monsters.
>Look at summoner
>Can't wait to summon primals and monsters like tonberry to fight
>Turns out to be a shitty WoW Warlock lite
Fuck.
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>>331793919
>good as baby's first mmo?

I think it's a really good game. However, as baby's first? That's probably debateable.

The main story is comprised of well over 100 quests and its required to do if you want to unlock a very strong amount of the content in the game(to throw out a percentage, I'd say roughly 70-80% of the game is locked behind the main story).

Since it's required to beat to unlock most of the content in the game you'll either love it for its length and how it eases you in or you'll find it boring and overwhelming and lose interest pretty quickly.
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>>331814429
Being lengthy doesn't make an MMO difficult or challenging. He's talking about easy to learn and it is because it's a WoW clone.

EVE online is pretty much the top of the curve.
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>>331814107
Summoner was fucked by the lore and technical limits of the PS3, more than it was by gameplay.
Most entities within the FF series already exist in the game as either a beast race, enemy phylum (eg. Voidsent like succubi and Bombs) or as a primal. Egis were a thing before Summoners in this game, so after taking away what's already been used "primal egis" were all that was left for people to Summon. That these egis don't look more like their original primals is just PS3 limitations at work; the only thing you can really blame SE for is being lazy when it comes to making new Egis. But that represents a huge amount of design and gameplay balance work so I can see why they haven't gone that way yet.
Let's see what happens in 4.0 when they finally drop the PS3.
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>>331814589
Sure, that's fair, I probably misread.

Though I do think that the extreme length tends to cause some players(skilled or not) to give up, but most of that thought is anecdotal since all the friends that I managed to get to play it seriously hated it because of how long it was and eventually unsubbed(even though I personally enjoyed it and didn't mind the length!).
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>>331814749
>Let's see what happens in 4.0 when they finally drop the PS3.
Hopefully we get stuff like in XI. All I really want is to be able to do something like summon a Cactaur, have him cast 1000 needles and he disappears.
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>>331814749
>Egis were a thing before Summoners in this game
They weren't. And the original plan before people screamed to be able to summon the classics was to have summoners actually be void mages and call on the lesser used summons like Cait Sith. PS3 limitations also aren't an excuse for how ugly the egis are.
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>>331812186
Because good looks and muscles
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>>331793919
WoW even now is literally better in every possible way.
Only play FF14 if you're a diehard squeenix fanboy otherwise there's no point.
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>>331816260
>WoW even now is literally better in every possible way.
It's really not, but that isn't to say XIV is any better.

MMO's just keep breaking my heart.
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>>331815813
>They weren't
They were.
You know how Louisox invoked the power of the gods to reimprison Bahamut? Those weird glowing rod things over Cartenau were literally Egis of the Twelve.

I'll concede your point about the chicken nugget egi designs though, and if what you say is true about them originally being Void Mages then the current state of affairs is terrible and Square Enix needs to entirely stop listening to the (loudest part of the) playerbase.

>>331814950
I'm still holding out that PUP is added, and subsequently isn't shit.
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>>331816641
>Those weird glowing rod things over Cartenau were literally Egis of the Twelve.
Except they weren't. He wasn't summoning egis. He was doing the normal summoning ritual. He was even worried that if it went through, the resulting Primals would destroy the world themselves. That's why before Bahamut popped out, he was planning on killing himself halfway through so they wouldn't fully manifest. What in the world made you think those are egis?
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>>331816464
No matter how much they keep fucking up WoW, the actual core is absolutely rock solid, it has the best camera, movement and general feel out of its genre and nothing else even comes close, added to that the world is really cool to explore especially for the first time and everything is fleshed out to the point you can have 100% suspension of disbelief.
All of WoWs competitors are absolute trash because they just try to copy it instead of doing their own thing, FF14 included.
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>>331816641
Those weird glowing rods over Cartenau are broken parts of Dalamud, which imprisoned Bahamut
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>>331818741
This has been in my backlog for a whIle. Should I watch it?
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>>331811821
what server?
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>>331818840
I found it really underwhelming.
Might be funnier if you've actually played Dragon Quest, but I understood all the tropes regardless and it still failed to impress.
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I hope you guys don't do this.
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>>331819393
I do this because I want to craft things for myself and money, and it was the perfect thing to drive me to finally level my crafting jobs.
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Now that they don't seem to be putting much effort into anything at all, can we get fancy animations back?
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>>331810194
They should program it so wildfire goes off if it reaches the threshold where it going off would kill the enemy.
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>>331819393
Beats having to manually request a meld attempt with every failure vs. getting the retry option if you do it yourself.
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>>331819572
I'd just like the 2handed Conjurer pose to not be stupid anymore.
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How is the Feast?
Frontlines was a clusterfuck I'd never waste my time on again, but I'm not fundamentally against PvP.
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>>331821179
It's Wolves Den v2 in terms of uselessness.
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>>331821179
better

just remember you're here to get em coins and not kills
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tfw they're never going to bring back Secure as a 72 man frontlines mode

feels bad
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I'm going to marry Lucia.
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>>331821228
>>331821357
Well as much as I said Frontlines was a waste of time I do have some time to waste. Might give it a shot.
Any advice for an AST? I hear we're pretty broken.
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>>331821729
aspected benefic is the only spell you need
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>>331821898
Awesome. Should be fun then.
Thanks guys.
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>>331821729
Spec VIT, and stack VIT accessories.
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What's wrong with Twin Adder?
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>>331822391
It isn't Immortal Flames.
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>>331819393

I just spammed hq leve turnins
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>>331822381
Cheers.
Are PvP glamours still a thing by the way? I recall Warriors used to glamour robes over their armour so people would think they were mages and vice versa. Dated gear from 1.0 was worth a ton of money as a result. My character is already a highlander, aiding the effect; just wondering if that stuff still psyches people out or if they aren't fooled so easily now.
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>>331823037
Glamors are allowed. Frontlines labels opponents by their job name, and Feast lets you view who is in the match and their roles.
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>>331793919
You'd be better off playing something that's free to play so that you can realise how terrible Wow-style MMOs are before throwing any money away. I bought FF14 and it was among the least wise things I have ever done.
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Remember to join the Immortal Flames, goys.
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>>331824127
Your sorcery doesn't work with Tomorrow style fuccboi.
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>>331824127
>Flames
If you ain't an Adder you're a badder.
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>>331825101
>being a cuck
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>starting to get back into the game to finish off 2.X content and move onto HW
>going more into 8-man stuff
>all those particle effects going on at once

Are later things going to get even more hectic later on. I don't want to be a burden to the group because I lose myself in lights.
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>>331825101
I want to protect her.
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>>331825424
You get used to it, especially when you start learning from observation what at least half those big flashey effects are.
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>>331825424

there's 24 man content as well, you can toggle spell effects from other groups and shit though
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>It's a quit after two tries of at a raid episode
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>>331825424

The babby tier story mode stuff isn't even in the same ballpark as the shit that goes down in actual hard content.
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