PC definitely has more users but its not as profitable as consoles are, even when it makes decent returns.
GTA 5 sold 56 million copies on last and current gen consoles. It only sold 4 million on PC and with a 265 million dollar budget, it never made a profit had it was released only on PC.
4 mil * 60 = 240 mil return, 25 mil loss, debt
Same thing with the Witcher 3. It sold 6 mil in the first month and so far has shipped 10 mil. On PC it sold around 2 mil (plus GoG). With an 81 mil budget this amounts to 40 mil profit had it only released on PC, which is half of what a game of this quality costed the studio. I doubt Cyberpunk is going to cost 40 mil, leaving CDP with no disposeable income.
2 mil * 60 = 120 mil return, 40 mil profit
Fallout 4 sold decently on PC but the devs would only have an 80 mil dollar budget for their next game and no disposeable income from F4. On consoles F4 sold around 8 mil while on PC it sold 3 mil out of a 100 mil budget.
3 mil * 60 = 180 mil, 80 mil profit
sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_V
http://steamspy.com/app/271590
http://www.gamezone.com/news/the-witcher-3-reaches-huge-milestone-ships-almost-10-million-copies-3434763
http://steamspy.com/app/292030
http://gamerant.com/the-witcher-3-gog-sales-410/
http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=Fallout+4
http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=Fallout+4
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-ships-12-million-copies-in-one-day-break/1100-6432277/
Are you a retard? 56 million copies are from PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, and Xbox One combined. 4 million in PC alone is pretty damn good.
>>331623906
>he's a sonycuck who types up walls of asshurt
Steam sales records aren't public IIRC.
GTAV didnt sell hotcakes on PC, because most people are retarded enough to buy the same game 3 times.
Also, why are you putting together all of the console sales? that's just unfair.
At the end of the day, PC isnt as favorable as console to develop for, because devs needs to make their game work on a sheer limitless number of hardware configurations, as opposed to one closed console system.
PC users also tend to be more frugal and discerning with their purchases.
>>331624072
Damn nigga do you even know how to read, or are you a cybernetically-enhanced shitposting cyborg from the future?
>>331623906
games are free on pc, of course 8 million people won't buy them.
>>331623906
Blame 'Murica. In Europe, Korea and South America PC is a thriving industry (case in point, computer gaming was going strong while the industry crashed in the US), however the United States is consolecucked to fuck and back.
And, sadly, the US is the biggest market force which means it's what drives the industry on a global scale.
>>331623906
>>331623906
thats right famicom, PC has more users BUT only on shitty games like Dota 2, LoL, Cunt Strike GO.
Console games usually die in a week and get infested with hacks.
>>331623906
The PC version was released WAY after the console versions were released. Most people on PC have consoles so they just played that instead of waiting
Have you looked at Steam? 99.9% of the shit on there is total garbage or indie shit. It's worse than fucking Google Play.
PC is not a gaming platform you neanderthal memester.
At the end you're basically using a typewriter to play games.
>>331624424
I want greentard meme to die
Better rev up those petitions MasterBeggars.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZu47DhX3xU
>>331624079
Steam spy is confirmed accurate
>>331623906
piracy
Companies sure wish they took in $60 per sale. $40 at best. Usually less at retail.
4 million copies is still a huge number for a mediocre port of an old game.
Not many companies would pass an extra 160 million dollars.
>>331624070
Not enough returns. Not enough hookers and blow money.
what's really exciting is speculation on how well the VR platforms will be
we know consolefags buy shitty games that pirates probably don't even waste time on.
what we don't know is what the future holds.
>GTA 5 sold 56 million copies on last and current gen consoles. It only sold 4 million on PC and with a 265 million dollar budget, it never made a profit had it was released only on PC.
It didn't sell because everyone already bought it on console.
Very few "PCucks" only play on PC.
OP is a sonygger but he gets two things wrong
1. He's hiding behind a combination of consoles sales whereas devs look at each platform alone as pc, Xbox and ps4
2. PC sales are more profitable because of 2 reasons
The first is the fact that steam only takes a 30% cut the rest of the 70% goes to the game. For certain games like witcher 3, they have their own platform and take 100% profits on it. For consoles there's the Sony fee of 30%, the fee to put a game in their console to begin with, retailers take another cut and then there is the Blu Ray disks packaging and shipping. Simply put you can pretty much double pc units to get a more accurate picture
Secondly pc games continue to sell over time wheras console used sales prevent profits. It's why sony and ms tried to prevent used sales but sony chickened out after ms went at e3.
Though ps4 users do have an advantage at eating yearly garbage like fifa and cod. Won't see too many pc owners go for that so they are necessary for EA.
>>331623906
Making a game for PC its so bullshit and a pain in the ass, if you want to make a game for it your game needs to be a total meme indie pixel trash like Undertale or a super high quality graphics game, because PC standars are so goddamn high and low that you dont know what to do.....
most of devs work on a single console game or a shitty independent google play game
>it's a sonycuck cries on /v/ episode
>>331624949
>BUT BUT BUT SONY BUUUUU BUUUUUU
PC fat damage control is hilarious
>>331624949
>steam only takes a 30% cut the rest of the 70% goes to the game
They were selling their game on their platform as well.
>>331624959
Most games are on pc you fucking dumbass, programming for PC is easier than programming for consoles. Stop talking about things you don't understand.
>>331623906
This doesnt count for the idorts who wouldve bought it on PC if it had been released on all platforms at the same time.
>>331623906
Dark souls sold more on PC than on all consoles combined
Explain this, consoletards
>>331625140
Its x86 across all platforms now.
On PC tho you have so many keys to program for and different graphics cards and cpus, so its HARDER ON PC.
>>331625282
social media
>>331623906
>budget
For all versions, I assume
Soooo
>>331625301
>x86
You're fucking retarded. Do you even know what that means?
>>331625282
40% from total sales is more? Your fat is not letting enough oxygen to your brain.
>fumble some numbers
>circular reasoning
>quote wikipedia
H-here I go!
>>331625405
Not him but the games sold over 1 million more since they put out that number.
I'm not going to read your shitpost.
Thank you consoles for paying for my better experience in basically everything I care about.
>haha multiplats!
>>331625301
>so many keys to program
What?
>>331625574
Keyboard has way more keys than a pad
>>331624949
You also forgot to add that you have to pay a fee for your game to recieve updates on the consoles. That's why CS:GO and TF2 didn't get updated at all on the consoles, Valve refused to pay the fee.
>>331625402
Do you know why W3 and DS3 look the same on low and ultra? Because adding more graphical differences increases cost and dev time.
PC holding back gaming confirmed.
>>331625615
That's a good thing.
>>331625894
>W3
It doesn't and we haven't seen DS3 maxed out.
>>331625923
Yet Ocarina of Time has more gameplay than Deus Ex 1.
>>331625949
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K6xTnRRTunc
>>331626016
Yet, I can play games and doing my work with keyboard.
>>331626090
>he hasnt won the lottery yet
>>331626140
>greentexting maymay xD
>>331626074
>low bitrate youtube shit using FXAA and blur
My point exactly.
>>331626140
Only poor people play the lottery in the first place.
>>331625615
So fucking what?
The game only has to pay attention to the keys that actually do something
>wait for key press
>switch statement bullshit
>case forward keypress: move the faggot forward
>case backwards keypress: move faggot backwards
>case foward keyrelease: stop moving you dumb bitch
>etc
Every other key is ignored.
>>331626090
>>331625894
and thats why pc will always be an office machine and not a serious gaming platform
>>331626016
tfw emulating ocarina of time at 4k 60fps
>>331626243
Good. I don't want my platform getting downgraded for muh gaymin only.
>>331624098
>>331623906
Citation needed
If you make a great game(witcher 3) and fuck the customers over with stupid shit(drm) then you are good to go.
Witcher 3 sold more on PC than on ps4 or xbone.
And it doesnt even have multiplayer.
Yeah, im feel so bad for the developers that they have to create a quality product to sell well on PC.
What a shitty world we live in.
>>331623906
>console exclusives
>restricted to playing with other people with the same console as you
>being charged to use the internet you already pay for
>have to wait longer for bug fixes
AND ALL OF YOU ARE FINE WITH THIS.
/v/ didn't use to be like this. /v/ actually boycotted shit like this. i know i did.
>>331626542
>quality product
witcher 3 was downgraded on pc tremendously for consoles though
>>331623906
I'll tell you why just based on my own habits. I tend to never buys games when they're new, and, until there's no other option, I'll never pay a flat rate for online access beyond ISP fees. I'm simply not profitable for AAAs.
>>331625282
Sold more because it was being sold for pennies.
>>331626665
You mean how everyone boycotted MW2 but still bought it anyway?
>>331626665
/v/ is reddit
>>331626768
So consolefags are retards buying overpriced games because they have nothing else to play? We know.
>>331624070
56 / 4 = 14
>>331626698
>muh graphics
And then you cry that your 750ti cant run AC Unity
>>331625301
I know how to make games for PC, Android and iPhone as a novice programmer.
I dont even know what language the ps4 wants or how to get into contact with Sony to publish my games
>>331627751
You'd have to talk to a publisher, not Sony.
>>331627317
>Ubisoft
>PC
It's only Jews that fuck up PC ports
would you rather have the highest photorealistic graphics or incredibly good atmosphere?
another example
>>331626542
>Witcher 3 sold more on PC than on ps4 or xbone.
>PC is totally not dead guys.
>>331626698
It's still a pretty demanding game on PC, it's not like you can max it 60fps on shit hardware or anything. And, relative to other open world games, it looks quite good.