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I play 1 card facedown and end my turn
Your move :^)
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>>331604291
MST on the facedown
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>>331604291
I set my super heavy samurai warlord susano-o in defense mode and i attack!
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>>331604291
>>>/tg/
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>>331604391
I negate your MST by releasing stardust dragon
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>playing the worst tcg ever created
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>opponent is losing
>I finally have a good card on the field, opponent has everyone in defense position
>summon one more monster
>this card get's activated
Every goddamm time
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Gotcha y'all
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>>331605650
/tg/ hates yugioh which is a shame because I'd really like it to get more pages on the 1d4chan wiki the current yugioh general is /dng/ on /vg/
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>>331608997
>worst
>still best selling worldwide

Doesn't matter because you're wrong, worst tcg is pokemon.
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>>331609510
>summoning into backrow
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>>331605563
>susanowo
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>>331611748
It kind of deserves it 2bh. Worst example of power creep in anything, worse than Pokemon.
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>>331612005
>powercreep is bad
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>>331612005
>KEK LMAO YGO META IS COMPLETELY BROKEN BUY2WIN GARBAGE
>WAIT, NO! STOP MAKING FUN OF US! ELDRAZI ARE JUST A PHASE, THEY WON'T MATTER ON A WEEK! FUCK YOU!
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>>331611748
>/tg/ hates yugioh
for good reason. the game is shit. This coming from someone who played it for literally a decade and has never played magic.
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>>331612071
>ending matches on turn three is good
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>>331612129
It takes you 3 whole turns? Why aren't you winning it turn 1/2? Fucking scrubs these days.
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>>331605563
Man I hate what they did with the Superheavy's names in the TCG
I liked them sounding like they had model names like Susano-O, Shutendo-G, and Kyu-B
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>>331611748
ygo is a really poorly designed game that literally ONLY exists for the sake of making money at this point. But what's worse is that rather than understanding this and still enjoying the fun and wacky things that can happen in it, most of the adult players will defend the worst parts of it and default to insulting magic even if it was never brought up previously.

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>>331612071
>>331612104
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>>331612367
How about you show me a presently running TCG with less crippling powercreep?
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>>331612261
Post 'em. Template in next post.

Mine hasn't been updated since August. I should really fix that.
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>>331612528
Whoops, didn't mean to link that to the other post. Oh well.
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>>331612516
Comparisons don't make it any better or worse. If I have a room at 600C and 6000000C you'll still die by entering either one.
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>>331612367
>ygo is poorly designed
How? I see no flaws.
>it only exists to make money
The same as literally every other tcg right now? No, not even that every tabletop game is there just to make money, but the best way to make money is to make a good game, which they have done.
>insults magic even if it wasn't brought up
But that guy said yugioh has the worst powercreep, which isn't true since magic does.
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>>331612714
>I see no flaws.
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>>331612801
Point out a flaw then, I'll be happy to tell you exactly why it isn't a flaw, and potentially why it makes the game better.
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>>331612889
Solemn Strike
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>>331612973
What's wrong with it? Saying a card name isn't pointing out a flaw.
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>>331613027
It's completely broken yet they obviously knew that and still released it.
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>>331613172
It's not broken at all, it's just summon and monster effect negation, heck it's not even as bad as warning since it can't negate normal summons, which is the most important summon of the turn.
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what does /v/ think of my work mousepad
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>>331613302

In what meta is the normal summon the most important?
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>>331613302
The normal summon is pretty much the least important part in the current meta. Since 90% of cards are special summoned. Not to mention it negates and destroys monsters which is the really big selling point.
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>>331613424
monarchs and kozmo
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>>331613424
In the one where they limited skullcrobat joker? In the one where people still use denko? In the one where monarchs are a thing?
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>>331613472
Pretty much all summon negation cards do that. The real draw is negating monster effects.
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shit game and even worse players posting here
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>>331612104
But BFZ/OGW are garbage compared to ROTE aside from the new Ulamog
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>>331613578
Kozmo are shit. Monarchs are going to get hit on this or the next list anyways then it will be back to more special summoning.
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>>331613584
>In the one where they limited skullcrobat joker?

Which makes normal summoning even less important for the deck.

>In the one where people still use denko?

Nobody still uses Denko

>In the one where monarchs are a thing?

The Monarchs are built around gaining advantage through special summoning using Idea and Ehther.
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>>331610080
>negate the spell/trap, and if you do, destroy it
what the fuck is this "if you do" shit
it literally tells you to do it
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>>331613172
>backrow is a problem when people are running triple twin twisters

Get good scrub, quit whining.
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I play one card face-down.

http://www.yugiohcardmaker.net
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>>331613858

It's almost as though there are cards that can interrupt the negation or something.
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:^)
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>>331613858
There are continuous spells and traps. Only negating them will still leave them on the field.
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I tap my Canopy Vista and three forests to play Chosen One
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>>331613873
Christ the Ygo community is full of underages. No wonder everybody has to netdeck the top decks.
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>>331613858

there are cards that negate effects but don't destroy the card.
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>>331613828
>kozmo are shit

not as shit as you :^)
i'd play them over crippled pendulum and monarch
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>>331614106

Everybody net decks because that is the nature of card games, it happens in every single one in existence because people want to win for minimum effort.
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>>331613828
>implying TCG will ever have a banlist again
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>>331613851
>nobody still uses denko
You should, since clearly you're having a hard time with a basic counter trap
>monarchs are built around special summoning
So they can tribute summon
>which makes normal summoning even less important for the deck
You realise most people replaced him with secondonkey, a card that does the exact same thing. Normal summoning and getting a search is still vital for most decks.
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>>331613949
The way that is worded you would rip your own card in half.
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>>331612889
resource system is unbalenced

formats are designed to be a carrot stick treadmill

if the power creep gets any faster it'll go back in time

15% of the deck is staples

non-staple cards are either useless or retardedly powerful

actually there are so many that I actually realized that it's stupid to argue them. If yo don't think there are any then you've already decided that and no one can convince you otherwise.

I'm not >>331612973 btw. I'm >>331612801
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>>331614079
>4 mana for a 1/1 token
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>>331614414
yeah but it's a squirrel token
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>>331614459
woo
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>>331614315
All according to plan.
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Ive played like 40 duels with my Life Equalizer deck and have yet to actually win via Magical Explosion even once.

They always leave before Im done. Sometimes the instant I summon Royal Magical Library.
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>>331614518
Well you also get to regenerate
And that's on a 5/5 beatstick for 4 mana, which is already way ahead of the curve
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>>331614558
because no one likes cancerous ftk decks
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>>331612117
>never played magic

There's your problem. You will never know how horribly broken magic is compare to Yugioh.
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>>331614290

I'm not even the same guy, Denko is just shit in any format where backrow can just as easily be done away with by a single Twin Twister. Monarchs as a deck were shit when all they had was tribute summoning, they are entirely reliant on special summoning to actually make good plays (and to facilitate tribute summoning that isn't inherently a net loss). Secondonkey is begging your opponent to have a way to destroy one pendulum, and that's besides the fact that you're seriously trying to argue the importance of normal summoning in a deck dedicated to spamming monsters through pendulum and special summoning, just because it uses a single card it wants to normal summon (which they don't even need to do for Secondonkey).
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>>331614329
>resource system
There isn't one, that's the beauty of it.
>carrot stick treadmill
I don't follow
>if the power creep gets any faster it'll go back in time
Power creep isn't that fast though, last format lasted over a year and people were begging for a new one.
>15% of the deck is staples
Depends on the deck, also this isn't a bad thing
>non staple cards are either useless or powerful
Aaaaaaaand? Is this seriously a problem? Does every card have to be the exact same power level as every other card? You just want the game to be boring apparently
>there are so many that I actually realized that it's stupid to argue them
I'm pretty sure you just ran out of "points" to make.
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>>331614650
Youd think at least one person would sit through it by now though.
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I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit
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>>331614813
only if they had no idea what it is
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>>331614846
The deck is extremely popular, everyone knows what deck it is.
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>>331613578
>Kozmo
>normal summon
Summoning via monster effects is special summon.
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>>331615232
You normal summon farmgirls, wicked witches and tincans.
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One problem i have with yugioh is how easily monsters can be dealt with if they have no protection. Like if i have a blues-eyes up you know it's not gonna last through the next turn if my opponent's deck is in any way decent. If there were some mechanic that automatically protects high level monsters i think the game would be a lot slower than the solitaire it is now.
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>>331615294
E-tele, Reasoning. But yeah if you don't have those you normal.
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>>331615275
>implying I didn't see that coming and did not place swordsman of landstar
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>>331615386
That's how you get out your second and third low level kozmos.
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>>331615386
>Reasoning
When is that piece of shit OP card getting limited? Picking anything other than 8 is dumb but your chances of getting it right are like 1 in 15.
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>>331614315
They expect to find one of us in the wreckage, brother!
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>>331615594
>1 in 15
>highest level is 12
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>>331615594
OCG just limited that and Monster Gate!

OCG FORMAT IS BEST FORMAT
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>>331615275
>Implyign
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>>331615275
'Scuse me?
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>>331614821
Why is text for even slightly complicated cards so fucking long?
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>>331615673
He's saying to call 8 it against Kozmos and just pray that they topdeck Dank Destroyer with it
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>>331615751

People still believe this after a year of Pepe raping the format.

>>331615594

Reasoning shouldn't be limited, nor should any generic card that helps rogue decks (Infernoids, Burgesstoma). Get rid of the archetype specific cards if you want to hit the archetype.
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>>331615920
Isnt the damage step before man eater effect kicks in though desu senpai?
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>>331616018
Yes. Armades beats flip effects.
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>>331616065
I meant to delete "yes."
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>>331615978
>People still believe this after a year of Pepe raping the format.

https://ygorganization.com/ocg-v-jump-april-2016-limit-regulation/

Dracopals are dead, son.

And at least OCG gives us consistent banlists every three months, where TCG and Kevin Tewart have literally said 'we'll give a new banlist when we feel like it'.

Which is why we haven't had one since November.
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>>331615949
Because they're too retarded to introduce keywords so they have to say "when this card is sent to the graveyard" instead of "when this card dies" and such.
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>>331615949
It's par for the course for cards with multiple effects
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>>331616018

Nope, Damage Step is the last phase before End Step.
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>>331616208
How is that using keywords?
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>>331616065
>attacks
>destroys monster
>end of damage step
>effect of MEB

I can't think of an example of an effect that happens before the damage step for monsters, but im sure it exists.
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>>331616180

What even is your point? That because they've been nuked now that it's alright that the OCG was a format where Pepe was upwards of 80% of the top-cut for over a year?
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>>331616278

Every effect happens before the damage step, your card is flipped face-up before damage is ever calculated.
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>>331616278
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Tips:Armades,_Keeper_of_Boundaries

He beats flip effects.
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>>331616208
But 'sent to the graveyard' means that the effect activates regardless of where it was sent from or how it got there, as opposed to it saying 'destroyed' which is a specific type of it getting sent to the graveyard
Saying 'when this card dies' is too vague as to what that means
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>>331612104
Eldrazi were my favorite phase

I like how they recognized how a absolutely broken Annihilator was so they replaced it with the far less broken Ingest
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>>331616215
Why does it have to be so long though? This card has tonnes of effects and yet has a short, concise text box.
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>>331616492
Will wizards ever stop sucking lovecrafts dick? I hope so, I never liked lovecraftian shit.
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>>331616601
>6 effects is "tonnes"
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>>331616601
Because they felt that properly explaining what every effect actually does is better than having a single word that represents the effect
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>>331616492
>so they replaced it with the completely useless Ingest
Fixed
Annihilator wasn't even broken, it was a powerful mechanic for cards that took effort to get out. They got rid of it because casuals complained. At least Ulamog got an ability that was on-par with Annihilator.
>>331616726
Twice as many effects as the yugioh card had.
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>>331616601
Because most of this cards effects are drawn from a limited pool of keywords, yugioh has far too many varieties of effects for there to be a keyword for every one.
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>>331604291
I attack, then I activate my trap card against your trap card.
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>>331604291
Just try it motherfucker
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>>331616606
The Eldrazi sets aren't even that Lovecraftian. Phyrexia and Innistrad are closer to Lovecraft's works than ROE, OGW, or BFZ. Their design is just inspired by some minor characters from Lovecraft stories.
>>331616896
>limited pool
There are hundreds of keywords. Yugioh cards are long as fuck because they never use keywords, which makes them unnecessarily wordy. Plus whoever edits the cards is really bad at condensing text.
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>>331617059

They don't use keywords because Yugioh as a game is very specific on how cards are worded, to where a card having "if" or "when" in its effect makes a world of different. As such, PSCT, however wordy you may find it, exists so that these issues can be as unambiguous as possible.
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>>331617046
>just 40 seconds after me
Hell yeah motherfucker.
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>Not having a stall and burn deck
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>>331616990
>>331617046
>not running the superior version
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>>331617295
Sorry if I actually like to win duels.
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>>331617143

Reminder that the folks at KoJ are still too retarded to see that it's Royal Magical Library that needs to be banned, not the cards surrounding it.
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>>331617295
If you want to be cancer you might as well just play monarchs.
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>>331614079
this one isnt quite bad
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>>331617278
>They don't use keywords because Yugioh as a game is very specific on how cards are worded, to where a card having "if" or "when" in its effect makes a world of different
So literally exactly like Magic
>As such, PSCT, however wordy you may find it, exists so that these issues can be as unambiguous as possible.
There's still no difference between say "choose a number from 1 to 3 and put that many cards from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard" and "put 1 to 3 cards from the top of your Deck into your Graveyard" besides the latter being less wordy and more grammatically correct.
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>>331617398
Its not THAT hard to pull off even without it.
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>>331617398
The guy who topped with monarch ftk didn't summon rml once, and only runs one copy.
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>>331617497
I never thought I'd see autism like this, even on /v/, yet here I stand, as I watch a man debate the wording of fucking childrens trading cards.
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>>331617059
>The Penis Mightyer
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>>331617497

No, not really. Missing the timing with Yugioh is an entirely different beast from the stack. It's necessary to specify that the player chooses the number because it's part of the cost along with the detaching one material.
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>>331617942
See
>>331617703
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>>331617993

I never thought I'd see autism like this, even on /v/, yet here I stand, as I watch a man come into a thread about a children's card game in the video game section of a chinese cartoons forum just so he could complain about people talking about said card game.
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>>331617942
It's not really, it's jut their lack of keywords, errata, and special rules that means they have to write out the full effect of every card to make it as simple as possible. If you actually wrote out all the rules text of Emrakul with errata it would be longer than any Yugioh card, but they have systems in place to make complex cards less wordy because it's simpler and more efficient to have players learn a set of vernacular than to make them read a novella whenever someone plays a rare.
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>>331604291
x^))
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>>331618307
Good night sweet prince and may the flight of angels sing thee to thy rest
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>>331618307
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/index.html
X^))
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>>331618265

It's sad that a paragraph is what constitutes a "novella" nowadays. I guess fuck reading, who would want to do that while playing a card game? Let's just throw cards at each other instead, so we don't have to read anything.

And it's almost as though cards of an archetype have similar effects to one another, so that at a glance you can understand that since it's a BA monster is likely has an effect that activates when it hits the graveyard (and, if it's one of their effect monsters, has an effect to special summon itself from the hand).
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>>331618307
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>>331611857
>Best selling worldwide = quality

Doesn't that apply to Naruto?
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>>331618684
Naruto isn't the worst anime either.
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>ghostrick will never be good
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>>331605563
Is there an TCG character stronger than Samurai Warlord?

And I’m referring to Superheavy Samurai Warlord with the ability to attack from defense position and spell/trap card-stealing ability, a complete Susanowo, with 3800 DEF and the ability to be Tuner Summoned using any non-tuner Superheavy Samurai monster.
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>>331618307
Diamond Crab King says hi.
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>>331618265
It has errata, I remember because they changed the rulings and text of Last Will.
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>>331618502
But I should know what a card does at a glance.

>Flying, protection from coloured spells, annihilator 6
is much easier and quicker to understand than
>Creatures without flying or reach cannot block this card, spells that have a colour have no effect on this card, whenever this creature attacks the defending player must choose six cards on his side of the battlefield and put them in the graveyard
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>>331618861
You could have had something, but you didn't go all the way.

Try again.
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>>331618861
Yeah, I can think of one.
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>>331618502
If I wanted a game about reading I'd play a VN. A card game should go by quickly. It's also not really helping your case that most Yugioh cards aren't any more complex in their effects than Magic cards in spite of all the words. You still haven't established a solid reason for why keywords aren't a good thing, especially since you yourself just mentioned that cards with the same archetype often have similar abilities with different effects; why not replace that with a keyword so that you don't have to have all that text on every single card?
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>>331618949

Annihilator means nothing at a glance unless you know the in-game jargon, whereas the latter is completely unambiguous to someone looking at the card for the first time.
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>>331618868
Or you can just use the much better Utopia the Lightning
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>>331618971
And it does go quickly despite this, people bitch now that the game is too fast despite all this text you have such trouble reading.
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>>331618971
>you haven't established why keywords are a bad thing

Because keywords limit the number of effects cards can have and yugioh needs ALOT of flexibility.
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>>331619071
For a long time all we had was Diamond Crab.
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>>331618971
>A card game should go by quickly

So not only do you not play Yugioh, but apparently you also don't play Magic in spite of you sucking its dick constantly. Magic, barring complete blowouts by stuff like Eldrazi getting a lucky hand, lasts forever.
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>>331619121
Iirc we didn't get lightning in the tcg till towers was banned
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>>331619121
Honest? Moon and mirror shield?
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>>331613407
I don't like how expensive a lot of playmats are. I'd love to have something like this if the ones I want weren't between $100 - $200+.

Nice grab though.
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>>331619083
It goes by quickly because everyone who actually plays the game is already familiar with every top deck anyway and the game itself isn't very complex.
>>331619105
That's not a reason. Keywords don't limit flexibility or the number of effects, it just makes them more concise. Like I said, if you actually wrote out Emrakul's errata it's more complicated and wordy than any Yugioh card by a huge margin. That's why keywords exist.
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>>331619192
Moon and Mirror was too unreliable by virtue of being an equip, and Honest only works for Light decks.
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>>331619192

Honest doesn't work, and Moon and Mirror Shield is shit by default due to being an equip (and also doesn't work).
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>>331619241
>keywords don't limit effects

There's only so many keywords you can put into the rulebook for your players to check, whereas there is no limit to what you can do in a text box without them.
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>>331619241

Evergreen keywords are a pretty clear sign that keywords do limit effects, and that certain keywords pretty much disappear after their initial block.
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Post your spirit monsters.

Arcanite Magician is my soul and I will go out of my way to work him into my casual decks.
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>>331616492
wait what? when did they replace it? I just got some Eldrazi
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>>331619754

The BFZ block got rid of it and replaced it with far shittier mechanics.
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>>331617497
Well, let's see you do it tough guy. How would you edit the text so that >>331614821 isn't an ugly tiny garbled mess.
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>>331619754
well not so much replaced but new Eldrazi cards in Zendikar have Devoid and Ingest.

This is also to go with the new colorless mana symbol
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>>331619473
This nigga right here
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>>331619391
>There's only so many keywords you can put into the rulebook for your players to check
Yeah, only a few million or so if you really need to. You don't need to consult a rulebook for keywords. That's what reminder text on less wordy cards is for.
>whereas there is no limit to what you can do in a text box without them.
Yet there are still magic cards with more complex than any Yugioh card with less words on them. Strange how that works.
>>331619471
That's by design. Keywords still return in later blocks anyway and a lot of effects that formerly were long text descriptions have been made into keywords, like lifelink and menace.
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>>331619473
Did you do the proper spirit card finding ritual? I will teach you of it.

Shuffle your deck and draw 1 card, look at this card then shuffle it back into the deck and draw another card. Repeat this until you draw the same card twice, that is your spirit card.
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>>331619473
>Fusion, Assault Mode and Synchro
this nigga doesn't know when to quit
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>meow!
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>>331619880
Kill yourself Eric.
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>>331619974
Arcanite will fuck your shit up. You'd better pick your poison, or else you're getting all of it.
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>>331619873
also for anyone wondering, <> is slightly different from (1)

Mana costs which display <> can only be payed with <> while mana costs with (1) can be payed with any mana color.

Kozilek here for example costs (8) and 2 <> meaning the 8 mana can be payed with anything but the 2 <> need to be colorless
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>>331619473

Rituals are pretty cool.
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>>331620130
Cool is exactly how I'd describe rituals.
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>>331620118
Can I still use my Eldrazi in tournys and to play with people I just started playing magic
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>>331619942
How do you work the extra deck into this?
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>>331620075
what's so special about him anyways?

Also
>Special Summon thread
how cute
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>>331619881

Yeah, I can't wait until they bring Horsemanship back, I'm sure glad they make these keywords so we can have all these varies mechanics that will no doubt return later.
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>>331619841
Does this mean its banned or what? sorry new to magic
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>>331620118
Wait they made a sixth mana type?

Oh god what is happening
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>>331620258
He's a really good Spellcaster Synchro that has a pair of interesting upgrades, and he looks cool and has won a ton of duels for me.
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>>331620325

It means if you're playing Standard you're not about to see Annihilator. And if you're playing Modern you're not about to see it either, because you'll be too busy getting raped by lower-costed Eldrazi.
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>>331620359

It's not a sixth mana type, it's just a symbol for colorless.
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>>331620359
It's not a sixth color, think of it more like a clearer distinction for colorless.

A lot of old cards that are written to give (1) will give <> instead.
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>>331620398
Whats standard?
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>>331620491
Why do you need to pay <> on >>331620118 if it's colorless mana cost though?
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>>331620607

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Standard
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>>331604291
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>>331620639
Because <> is a colorless cost and specifically requires <> to pay the cost.

You can't pay colorless with Red.
(1) is a universal cost and can be payed with any color including colorless.

So Kozilek can be payed for with 10 <> or 8 Red and 2 <> but no matter what the 2 <> needs to be payed with <>
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>>331620639

Great Distortion costs 2 colorless mana and 8 generic mana. That is, 2 of the mana has to be explicitly from a colorless source (which most sources which previously gave (1) or what have you like Ancient Tomb have been errata'd to give <> instead) and 8 mana which can come from any source you want.
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>>331620689
>activation requirement
>no effect

This is why I hate CaC shitters.
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>>331607353
>pulled a ghost rare Stardust
>sold it for around 75 dollars a long ass time ago
I want it back. I also pulled a ghost rare Majestic Star but he's ass.
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>>331620639
A <> in a mana cost specifies that you can ONLY spend mana without any color to pay that cost.
>>331620279
That's still not an argument. You yourself said they have similar abilities on similar cards that all function the same way. It's not like keywords are foreign to Yugioh since they have some shorthand errata in that game too. Or do you think the only keywords in Magic were keyworded abilities? Are you really that retarded? Even if you were right, Magic is still the more complex game in spite of keywords "dumbing it down" as you claim.
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>>331621038
>magic is more complex

Why you lying?
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>>331619942
>Do this with my Synchron deck
>I hope I get something cool like Junk Destroyer, or Stardust Spark, or Enlightenment Paladin, or hell maybe even Junk Sync-
Welp
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>>331621038
>Magic is still the more complex game

How do you even know? You don't even seem to play the game, since based on what you've said you apparently think it's a super fast game, which is factually untrue.
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>>331620804
So it's literally a sixth color
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>>331620815
It must suck that you're so autistic you are incapable of having a sense of humor.
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>>331619996

Ever since that video I can only hear "How will kitten ever win now?"
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>>331621246
What video?
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>>331621152
I'd like you to point out where I said Magic was faster.
>>331621094
Why are you? You want me to type out the full rules text for Emrakul without any keywords? Here's a tip; it's more than twice as long as any Yugioh card.
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>>331621216
Guy could at least put "throw that nigga out" or "tell that nigga to get out" but nope, the card literally has no effect.

Also it's not funny regardless.
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>>331621038
> complex
> doesn't even have trap cards
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>>331621192

No, it's just a clarification on what colorless mana exactly is and how it works.
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>>331621192
It's not, it's colorless.

As someone has said, cards like this that give (1) are reprinted to say they give <> instead.
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>>331621274

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV07YSuKNk4
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>>331621216
dis niqqa's on faya, crazy memes dude 100 dis good shit lmao XD
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>>331621192
No because it's not a color you dumbass. Lands that produce mana of any color can't produce colorless mana and colorless isn't a color.

>>331621329
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>>331621192
>It's literally 6th color
Does it die to Ultimate Price?
Here's a hint, no.
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>>331621281
>more than twice as long as any yugioh card

I doubt that highly.
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>>331621329
It doesn't?
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>>331621332
>>331621342
But making things that specifically require this kind of mana, with its own symbol and everything, makes it function exactly like every other color of mana
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>>331621281

Where do you even get "Magic is faster" out of what I said? No wonder you're so against wordy cards, you can't read.
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>magiccucks literally can't resist shitting up yugioh threads because their autism is just that bad
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>Haven't played or watched since the first few episodes of Zexal because it was the drizzling shits
>Friend shows me a 'pendulum' duel today
>mfw
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>>331621528
When you have yugioh threads for almost two days non-stop, it tends to attract other card games.
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>>331621553
Arc-V's going pretty damn good actually
Way better than the hot ass that was Zexal and GX
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>>331619227
you wat mate. you know you can get custom printed ones for cheap right.
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>>331619473
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>>331621591
Yeah but... WHY? These threads have absolutely nothing to do with any other card game, and don't want anything to do with any other card game.
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>>331621450
colorless still counts as colorless.

Colorless spells can't be affected by spells that target colors.

Mana sources that create mana of any color can't make <> mana
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Posting the best main character's friend in the entire series
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>>331621682
So it's a special snowflake sixth color that totally isn't a color despite being functionally exactly the same as other colors because they said so
Got it
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>>331614945
There's the problem
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>>331621790
its colorless
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>>331621679
I don't know man, yugioh threads get stale as fuck if they go on continuously.
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>>331621764
Sawatari is a friend right? I think so.
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>>331621841
But it works exactly like the other colors
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I love ygo, but I play gx rules with a group of about 100 other people in my town. New shit locks you in to one deck and totally neutralizes everything else. Synchro shit on fusions and rituals, xyz on synchro, pendulum on xyz. It's just power creep in the worst way.

I did love morphtronics though. Power tool dragon was the tits but it is so hard to build a good deck for him now.

Online and games are the worst offenders for bullshit though. Everyone has access to top tier decks and it murders creativity.
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>>331621889
yeah but it's colorless
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>>331621764
NEVER FORGET

GOGENZAKA'S MANLY SACRIFICE
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>>331621874
/dng/ has been going for years non-stop, but it still finds a way to not be stale.

Stop finding excuses for them.
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>>331621606

GX is great, fuck you.
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>>331621949
how good is his deck in the actual TCG?
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>>331621415
Alright here you go:

Emrakul cannot be countered by spells or abilities.
When Emrakul's cost is payed and he is successfully put onto the stack as a spell, then begin an extra turn after this turn's end step.
Emrakul cannot be blocked except by creatures who share this ability or creatures who have abilities allowing them to block creatures with this ability.
Emrakul cannot be targeted, blocked, dealt damage, or enchanted by any colored spells.
Whenever Emrakul attacks, the defending player must sacrifice 6 permanents.
When Emrakul is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles his or her graveyard into his or her library.

That's not even explaining out the errata for shit like "spells" because I'm too lazy, even though the definition of "spell" hangs up so many people that a huge chunk of the playerbase thinks you can't use Oblivion Ring on Emrakul.
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You think Thalin gives a shit about attacking ? He has questing to do motherfucker.
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>>331621902
Everything that you just said, apart from the personal things involving your friends, is 100% actually false.
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Building decks in Legacy of the Duelist is a bit of a pain.
The interface is pretty bad. Coupled with the fact that I'm shit at building it makes the whole process a nightmare. I wish I had some autismal Yugioh equivalent of Rainman as a friend who could just come over, gloss over all my cards and make me something good.
I usually just take a preset, swap in my favourites and cut the fat.

Quick question for anyone who has played Legacy:
Is the DLC worth it?
Altogether it's 40 bucks
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>>331621938
Exactly that's what I'm saying
It's a sixth color in every way except because they say so
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>>331621902
>Synchro shit on fusions and rituals, xyz on synchro, pendulum on xyz. It's just power creep in the worst way.
Not really?

The best deck the game at the start of the Arc-V era was a fusion deck, and after that it was a tribute deck with light pendulum elements. An Xyz deck won Worlds last year, and before that Rituals were hands down the best deck in the game.

For all it's issues, the Arc-V era has done a pretty good job of making sure every summoning type has had a chance to be meta.

>>331621984
Unfortunately, not as good as you would hope.
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DORO, MONSTA KADDO
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>>331622051
because it's colorless

Generic mana costs (1) aren't going anywhere. But generic mana sources giving (1) are all changed to colorless <>
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>>331621902
Bro GX had the hugest power jumps in Yugioh history with Chaos shit and Cybers
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>>331622001
That's it? That doesn't even beat Ra - Sphere mode. I was expecting at least double that if you're gonna compete with the worst of what yugioh has to offer.
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>>331621764
I'm eternally loyal to Joey 'C'man Yoog' Wheeluh
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>>331622038
Name a good ritual deck nowadays. Nekroz is shit BTW. Or a good synchro deck.
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>>331621984

Pretty shit. Still fun to try to make it work with something like Volcanics though.
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>>331622134
Yes but now generic mana sources are simply sources of this new sixth color
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Anyone have a screencap of that guy who puts down a skull servant and someone sacrifices half their lifepoints to negate it's summoning?
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>>331621638
For some fucking reason, that never hit me. I'm going to look into it now. Thank you.
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>>331622180
Nekroz was top tier until the post-Worlds banlist last year, and Dracopals use their Pendulum summons to enable Synchro plays.
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>>331622136
GX syndrome is the name given to card released in the GX era, it is named this because card released in the gx era were shockingly bad.
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>>331621423
>>331621385
> posted the same card
> implying this compares to yugioh's many traps, anti-traps, meta-traps, equip traps and magic traps
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>>331622302
Don't forget trap monsters.
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>>331622180
>good ritual deck

Nekroz can still work, and stuff like Red-Eyes and Prediction Princess are fine. Just because it's not tier 1 doesn't mean it's not good.

And Blue-Eyes is an example of a good synchro deck. Besides every deck that can do so playing Ignister.
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