So I'm extremely new to disgaea and this is my first time playing it. I'm on the mid boss fight in vyers castle and I am getting destroyed. I've tried making characters, but they get one shot most of the time and I have not found a good place to grind yet, unless I'm just doing it wrong.
Any disgaea tips for a brand new player?and yes, I'm trying to git gud, so fuck off
Find a level 1 item, like some ABC gum or something and go through a few floors through it. Your named characters should be able to carry it at this point.
Abuse geopanels in item world, too. If you get some free bonus from floor completion, be sure to bring out everyone you can before finishing the stage so they get free exp.
>>331450664
I'll be honest, I don't really understand how the item world works. Any item can be entered?
>>331450915
Yeah, anything. It'll tell you what level the item is, and that's where enemies levels start when you enter. If I remember correctly, it's been several years since I've played D1, enemies in a level 1 item will scale to around 7-8 at floor 10.
In the beginning it's really just a place for easy grinding. Basically, it's a randomly generated bunch of dungeon maps usually with geopanels. Every 10 floors you can leave, or you can use a Mr. Gency's Exit to leave early, you'll start on the floor you leave if you come back.
You got two options.
1.__________________Git gud_________________________________
2. Go grind like a casual, so you can steamroll trough everything
Thanks for the tips so far.
Should I make a big team and level them all up? Or just a few? What's a good team size?
Thanks for the tips so far!
Should I make a big team and level them all up? Or just a few? What's a good team size?
never played disagea nor do i know anything about it but it has nice lolis
>>331452475
>>331452570
Why the fuck did this post twice?
With a smaller team, you probably will need to grind less or not grind at all in the beginning. If you have a team of 10 right away, of course you'll have trouble because your best units won't get the exp needed. Later on, it's ok to have more units though you may need to grind a bit at certain spots. There are a couple of good grinding spots in the main story and usually in Disgaea story modes, if you need to grind during the main story, it doesn't take that long anyways. I usually use these spots to train up unlocked classes like Samurai.
>>331452475
i just had a overleveled laharl + a mage and that's all i needed to finish the game
>>331452475
First time I played, early in the game I used only the 'story characters' and a verrry select, cherry picked few random heroes and monsters and they were all there just to support Laharl. My Laharl got mega stronk by the end. Play how you like. Obviously, if you want to do like a... 'everyone gets a turn' kind of play through that's gonna take an age and a half to get them all fighting fit.
Vyers castle fight is the first roadblock to new players
take note of the geo panels, there are two archers on geopanels that give them enemy x5 or some shit. Means they are five times stronger then normal. If you can't kill them first turn, just pick them up and throw them and put some characters on that same geopanel. Now you're dudes are powered up.
If that little fuckboy vyers comes over and you're not done sweeping the adds pick him up and throw him back.
This advice may be too late but keep your party size around 4-7 to make sure they're all getting good XP. 5 is preferable.
You should really read up on weapon mastery and all the other leveling mechanics; Disgaea can't be played without knowing that shit.
But to put it simply, go collect up some armsmaster innocents, chuck them all onto one weapon, and hand it over to your favorite character.
In the mean time, collect as many +attack and +accuracy shit.
At the end of the day, you now have a weapon with like, +300 attack. Which gets amplified by 200x. Levels and story missions mean jackshit by that point.
And that's just one of the deeper mechanics without touching reincarnations and master-pupil mechanics.
>>331449724
Are you paying attention to the geo symbols on the map?
To the range on the archer's bow?
Other than that, as been mentioned you can grind in item world a bit. Just be aware that equipment on enemies there is random, so don't just rush at this point. Also, if you have a fist user, you can push gatekeepers out of the portal to the next floor.
You may also want to go into something like a common sword or an amulet to boost it a bit, then use it on one of your characters. Just remember to kill the Item General on the 10th floor, if you can.
>>331454384
Where do you get armsmaster innocents?
So /v/, which side are you on?
If you're having trouble with Vyers, go to Item World, level Laharl a bunch, proceed to stomp everything.
>>331456475
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OP, I can give you more help if you need it, Disgaea is very tough for new players but can also be very fun.
>>331456475
>>331457569
I'm not OP but I am interested in the game. Besides learning mechanics on the wiki, is a playthrough with only the main story characters + a Prinny viable?
I've heard there's an Etna mode. Is it worth a playthrough?
>>331456475
I used to be both, then I gradually turned into a flatfag.
>>331456302
You get them and every other innocence from items. Basically just go into the shop and look at what innocence are in the items and buy the ones that have the innocence you want.
>>331456475
flat power!
>>331457853
>Besides learning mechanics on the wiki, is a playthrough with only the main story characters + a Prinny viable?
Its very doable. You can even solo the game if you wanted.
>>331456475
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>>331456475
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>>331456475
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>>331458283
Brother!
>>331456475
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>>331456475
Neutrass party.
>>331457853
While you CAN, it's more beneficial to use generic classes, this is because some maps require more units due to enemies being spread out. You have the right idea with going with a small cast though, you shouldn't need any more than about 7 characters. Be sure to have a mage as well as teach Flonne magic by making your mages her pupils so she can learn their spells.
Prinnies aren't stellar units, but you can use them if you'd like. They learn a move that inflicts a bunch of status effects, so they'll be good for that at the very least.
Also, spears suck in D1, give Etna an axe.
>>331449724
Take 2 characters out. These will be sacrifices. Move them up. Then bring out Laharl. Move him up to the other 2. Have them pick up Laharl and then each other. Throw Laharl to the Geopanels so he can take them out ASAP. Hang back out of reach of the mage and archer with everyone else and kill anything that comes close until Laharl is done with Geopanels.
