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What real musicians could make awesome vidya soundtracks?
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YOUR NAME IS FUCK
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>>331445572

Wu tang, I wanna see their stuff in a fighting game
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>real musicians
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>>331445905
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I hate Kanye West's personality and his shitty lyrics, but if he was just making game soundtracks without lyrics, I think he could make some outstanding shit.
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>>331445954
What do you mean by this, lad?
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NECRO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H89AypaH7BM
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>>331446019
Then you mean the producers right?

Not Kanye
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Has anyone listened to The Flashbulb? Guy is amazing, tell me thi wouldn't be godlike in a videogame

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4F150ADBB35CE9CD
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>>331446164
Kanye is the producer on almost all his albums minus anything post 808s & Heartbreaks, and he produced blue print for Jay Z aswell.
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The track he made for the Hyper Light Drifter trailer was really good

any Baths or Post-Foetus stuff would be comfy as fuck in any beach/coastal areas
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Bear McCreary, I love his BSG soundtracks.

http://www.bearmccreary.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEhlAA85_tY
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>>331446164
Kanye is a producer, bro. Was a producer before a rapper
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>>331446230
Eh. Tycho-tier.
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>real musicians
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Revo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-9ihcy2R8
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>>331445572
>real musicians
Yeah, fuck those fake musicians and their fake music.
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>>331446503
Mind if I save this pic?
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>>331445954
>>331446392
>>331446503
>t. "I exclusively listen to Kavinsky and video game soundtracks" pleb
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Mike Patton
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>>331446631
oh anon... (you) are so funny with your memes and all.
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>>331446631
>he thinks his music is above those
I love it when people notice details that just happened to end up there in the music I made and call them smart.

Music is a good way to fool idiots into thinking you're more intelligent because you listen to something specific, even easier if you make some yourself.
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>>331446350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGCsHSLtyYU
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Shiro Sagisu
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Trent Reznor. This board is underage tho.
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bemani artists
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>>331447494

He's already done it though.
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>>331446916
>>331447078
>mfw get this upset because muzak's treated as muzak

There's not a single videogame soundtrack that has ever done anything interesting ever. Much like videogames themselves haven't done anything interesting ever.
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>>331445572
It already happened with Gustavo Santaollala and the The Last of Us
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>>331447637
Okay
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>>331447586
"Reznor went on to encourage the crowd to "steal and steal and steal some more and give it to all your friends and keep on stealin'."
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>>331447637
>getting mad over people not giving a fuck about vidya music
lel
sperg
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>>331447896
/v/ confirmed for literally incapable of reading
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>tfw no deep cerebral experience set to musique concrete
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>>331445572
Sufjan Stevens
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>>331445572
Matmos
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>>331447991
>reading
Not vidya.
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>>331447637
(you)
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>people constantly gushing over Clint Mansell
>ME3 OST completely fucking unmemorable next to Jack Wall's stuff
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>>331445572
Linkin Park

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
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When the fuck is Tobin going to do another game soundtrack?
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Godspeed You! Black Emporer could be really good for a post apocalyptic exploration based game, stuff like F# a# infinity just screams post apocalyptic
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>>331447637
>There's not a single western videogame soundtrack that has ever done anything interesting ever.
Ftfy
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>>331448470
>Not Evanescence - Wake me Up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXcdYBh3hgg
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>>331448696
>Not Disturbed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsIXGVOvah8
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>>331445572
You've just reminded me to shill for cYsmix because I want his soundtrack in CS:GO.

Here. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=645636161
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>>331448573
fuck yes
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>real musicians
how to spot the underage who found out about /mu/ 2 weeks ago.
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>>331448657
18+
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>>331448696
You posted the wrong version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp4nb6atDE
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Danny Elfman would be cray cray
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>>331447637
There are a few, top quality engineers, studios and the like. But that percentage is likely so low that it feels like you constantly hear shit.
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>>331449131
:^)
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>>331445572
None unless they were like jazz fusion artists or something. There's more to making a soundtrack for a vidya than just "good music" as the pile of forgettable soundtracks the last few years have proven.
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Toby Fox
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Gorillaz. They could do a lot of different genres of games.
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>>331448316
IIRC he did only one song in actuality. The rest was done by the guy who did the Overlord (or whatever it was called) DLC in ME2.
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who let /mu/ out of the cuckshed?
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>>331449023
If you compared the best of videogame music to the best of music

It wouldn't even be a contest

Hell, not even to the BEST of music but to things that are mediocre but resonate with people
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Grandaddy.

The Sophtware Slump as an example
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>>331449652
keep going kiddo tell me more about comparing best of music.
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>>331448573
>emporer
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harry gregson-williams
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none
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These guys would make good vidya music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa1ocJpzq7Y
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>>331449823
Are you going to keep smugposting even though you have literally no leg to stand on?

What's the best of videogame music?
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>>331445572
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>>331449857
fuck u kiddo
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>>331449931
>What's the best of videogame music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1cbTecNmPg
now your turn whats the best of music?
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clint mansell
johnny greenwood
timberland
pharell
envy
linkin park
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>>331450124
>that video
Here you go. Better music and it's even of the same genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0
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>>331449652
my roommate is a professional multi-instrumentalist, songwriter gospel music mostly. One thing he told me that has stuck in my head. Most of the people listening to your shit don't have extensive musical knowledge. You can get away with playing the simplest progressions, sticking with the same key even and so on. People won't notice, musically (theory wise) they're idiots. Whatever sounds good works, save the nerd shit for nerds.
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>>331445572
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>>331445572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLZ6Mqy7AM

Or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OREEvnW51Mw (THEY NEVER USED THIS FOR ANYTHING, END ME)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dBqOmY6els
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1DLDD4Pciw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZsTGjddN0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H4l9RpkwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnDh0JhmaFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHcyJPTTn9w
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>>331445572
Bal-Sagoth could make a great Dota 2 music pack
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Chon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcGFm2Bf20c
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The Jetzons ;)

https://youtu.be/H2OWC5Hosv8
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>>331451221
This.
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Amon Tobin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QGNdNsBt9s
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>>331451336
sounds like this

https://youtu.be/5VvZumd4SW0?list=PLDCOipXs8O44JR2SpXzV-ASm5iyh1q6uT
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I want a game with Daft Punk music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOS9aOIXPEk
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>>331447637
The work put into getting anything that sounds better than the PC speaker is pretty impressive, though.
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>>331450273
I can confirm. My friend is kind of an elitist against cheesy shit but absolutely gives me a free pass whenever I drop bit o cheap stuff in between for the sweetness.

Also, having wrong music in game is much bigger mistake than having bad music. Go replace MGR's soundtrack with Strauss and see how it goes, even if the music is "objectively" better.
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>>331451782

That's some pretty chill stuff. I've been digging this a lot lately too
http://home96.bandcamp.com/album/falling-into-place
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I'd play a game if the entire soundtrack were by this band.
Plus points if it's a Shrek game.
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Ian Livingstone
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>>331449605

Overlord had an awesome soundtrack, what the fuck happened?
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>>331445905
Nigga, they had their own game, with it's own soundtrack!
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>>331451731
He composed most of the music for Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory

>>331452189
It's all I listen to when I read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7EnNS66xk
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>>331445572
Buckethead
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>>331451937
I hate this calm electronic voice so fuckign much. I hope they will make more fast and more agreassive music.
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Vidya needs more cheese metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-89U89sZao
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>>331452395
Found the hipster.
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>real composer

What would be considered a fake composer?
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I crafted a whole PSX Megaman X game using Joe Satriani songs.
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>>331452559

Gorillaz
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What does a musician have to do to be considered a "real" musician?
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>>331452520
oh come on anon, they aren't 'that' shallow.
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>>331452685

To have done something other than Youtube.
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>>331452559
Any rap "artists."
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>>331452559

Someone who's never played an instrument in their life.
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>>331447637
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>>331445572
S.S.H. Shit's fucking cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TYP3Zp2x24
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>>331452831
You're not a fake composer just because you rap.
If you record kid singing, produce it into a record would that make the kid fake composer? No.
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>>331452953
Isn't that just most people?
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>>331453973
You're wrong, and to answer your question, Yes.
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>>331453973
Spoken word is a method of artistry.
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>>331445572
https://youtu.be/rhPkO_uPIQU for a game about civil unrest in a sci-fi utopia, with Hotline Miami-style gameplay.

https://youtu.be/4gRtwIQ3s5A for a game about post-WW3 Chicago gang violence by Platinum.
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>>331445572
Sabaton, despite being a very vocal-based band, have some real good noise in the BG. I could see them doing something for a gritty beat'em up
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>>331445572
Mother fucking BERSERKYD
http://berserkyd.newgrounds.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiXyTMvuyLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMDGSwAAe34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDDzq6BXnxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGtACvTzu10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdCKTj-SR7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GASugaSKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1pK0KjuFA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNW0GE3uvs
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all these artists you all posted are literally worse than any video game soundtrack writers
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>it's a /mu/ won't stay in their containment board thread
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>>331454193
Painter is an artist too but not a fake composer.

I guess fake composer would be someone who just follows some sheets like this.
Which I don't really recommend even if you're looking for easy way out, since coming up with the same shit by yourself is faster and easier.
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Celldweller does some pretty damn awesome stuff, hell he made dead rising's soundtrack but even on his own he makes some amazing stuff that could be in vidya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UPCLR8-Aeo
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>>331445572
I'd like to see what Blockhead or RJD2 could come up with for a game's soundtrack.
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>>331445758
This tbqh onii-senpai
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>>331454443
celldweller's cool when his shitty voice isn't in it
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>>331454394
A fake composer is a person who doesn't compose anything. Rather, plagiarizes and steals material, on the most basic level.
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>>331445572

I think Motorhead could do some greath videogame music. Maybe some kind of manly shooter stuff
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>>331445572
They already did one for the 2005 indie shmup Jets 'n' Guns.
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>>331454752
Anon, there is something might not want to hear...
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>>331451937

>started playing Daft Punk in my car
>friends go "what the hell is wrong with you anon? play some rap and not this shit"
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>>331454964
I know about Lemmy, don't worry.

You seem unaware that i actually was describing something they did many years ago.
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>>331455002
I suggest not letting Niggers enter your car, it might lower it's resale value
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>>331455002
t. man who made up some stuff that never happened
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>>331455002
I hope you're not friends with them anymore.
All my friends respect Daft Punk, because they know how much I like them.
If any of them bashed Daft Punk, I'd bash them.
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Does anyone know if the Danganronpa ost is good?

I think Masafumi Takada worked on it.
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>>331449628
I don't know.
We don't even lock it, since they're usually so cucked you just need to give them a fierce look and they'll close the door themselves and stay in there.
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>>331455162
>I'd get violent over a friend not enjoying the same plebcore that I do

autism
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>>331455330
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>>331445572

Coil, shame they're both dead ;_;7
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>>331452394
Oh well then I guess I was right
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>>331454102
Indeed, most people are not real composers
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>>331455606
yerr

I was just HELPING.
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>>331455590
>dio is dead
>john bonham is dead
>brad delp is dead
>david bowie is dead
>dimebag darrell got fucking shot mid-performance
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>>331455692
>samples the carpenters for a rap song
>suddenly a composer

when will the heresy end
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>>331455692
Most people aren't composers per se.
And can't play instrument.
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If Beethoven was still alive I imagine he could make great OSTs
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>>331456448
I can can play an instrument bro I can play like 9 chords fuck you.
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>>331456593
Can I have Holst?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I
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>>331456797
Sure Anon I'll give you that.
Gustavs Planets are pretty fucking cool and parts have been in video games.

Like Jupiter in Civ V
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>>331456593
Liszt too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nVmFlSV1ok
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>>331456593
Ravel could make a good fantasy game ost

https://youtu.be/H5kf0cFp4Jg?t=1m15s
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>>331457527
>>331457494
>>331456797
>>331456593
Don't forget Mozart
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>>331457630
Fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwub-9dZLFU
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Final Fantasy metal.
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>>331457839
btw Mozart is still alive.
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Death Grips
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>>331457935
>Memeforce
Let me guess Though the Memes and the Keks we Meme On is the best metal song of all time am I right?
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>>331458058
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>>331458080
>not being able to feel fun
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>>331457839
This sounds like it could be in Dragon Quest.

>>331457527
This sounds fitting for Kingdom Hearts.

>>331457494
This could fit into modern Final Fantasy
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>>331457946
>to be continued
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>>331447637
Here's your (You), m8.
Dank/10 post.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRb3Mx0yYpE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DPF_pWIy3w
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>>331457946
Yeah, someone born in 1756 is still alive today.
Fuck right off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yi-eeo10YE

And this guy is even alive.
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>>331458863
Hello newFag
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>>331458987
Right back at you.
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yeah, it's a shame that the drummer from the police didn't take a random time out from rock music to make 3 of the best video game soundtracks of all time, and then to disappear from video games as abruptly he had entered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBYDD77N-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRaOWs2vUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1YN3XkA9UU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qo4ZAEaD84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhlMmm586xU
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>>331450056
Thomas Bangalter has already made a movie soundtrack (Irreversible), could probably make a video game soundtrack too.
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>>331457946
I'm sorry to inform you, but Mozart is dead. Very, very dead. How could he be still alive? That's just silly.
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>>331460183
Nah he's not dead
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>>331452953
Going to have to agree with this to some extent.
It's impossible, or near next to it, to have a musical conversation (theory/method/history) with someone who does not play an instrument.

It's a language... I can't even begin to express how aggravating it is working with a self proclaimed 'producer' who learned all their theory via a DAW.

It's like speaking to someone who is trying to communicate to you in broken/stroke speech.
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>>331462552
>computers aren't an instrument
epic rockist mentality
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>>331462779
nah man, that's not what I mean. frustrating to explain.
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Imagine a horror or cyberpunk game scored by Tom Waits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZMm8pGaJMA&ab_channel=stevem292
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>>331447559
2mb only
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Michael Jackson

oh wait

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwHiymSojk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZH1o8N9PXU
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Pram's music basically sounds like a 90's adventure game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6csU_OLskUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3GEfoG4B0
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DEATH GRIPS
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>>331462779
It's a comfort thing to be, you can work with anyone, don't get it wrong. But it may not be pleasant because of the gaps in between what either party might know.
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>>331450056

I'd pay good money for that

they're already a staple in many of those "shaped by your music" indie games for me.
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Hall & Oates
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>>331463331
>school shootan simulator with DG soundtrack
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opened this thread solely to laugh at /v/'s music taste

left happy
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>>331452395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RgQ-JDiOic
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I'd play the shit out of a game with music by she

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG7IYLByWCI
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>>331463016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR6sQzpOvHU
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>>331463974
Just because you might think it don't mean it be the way you think it do.
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>>331458058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvVEmhy34I
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>>331445572
>Mfw some buster who sits behind a synth and computer calls himself a musician
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How funky would a game with music by the seatbelts aka the cowboy bebop OST guys be?
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>>331464563
elaborate.
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>>331455937
>Emerson shot himself
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>>331447734
>>331447896
>>331448267
>>331448657
>>331458752
>>331453008

>instead of giving proper answers, resorts to memes

I want reddit to leave.
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>>331464779
it be frustratings ta explain ya just gotta understand man feel it
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>>331463016
>>331464516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxtFoe-at0E
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>>331464690
>muh string music
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>mfw some bitch ass nigga thinking he's hot shit playing his bitchass 6 strings near me
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>>331446305

fucking baths would wear a sweater like that, wouldn't he
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>>331464872
That doesn't instill confidence. But if you're finding gigs that way, whatever works.
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>>331449652
>videogame music isn't music
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>>331466060
It isn't. It's trash.
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>>331466398
How so?
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>>331466517
Because it's made to supplement video games.
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>>331446305
this

god, baths is gay as fuck but his music is so good and unique, take a look at his Twitter and find it yourself

pretty sure he lurks /v/ when those bara threads get posted
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>>331466728
Being part of the video game doesn't make them shit
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I'd fucking love to see another game like Space Funeral with some Angel'in Heavy Syrup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i65STCT8lw4
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Beck made an EP exclusively for Sound Shapes

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwZtt4Q9CxY
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>>331466893
It's an auxiliary element that is restricted by the game that it has to compliment. By that very virtue it is inferior to any other kind of music.
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>>331467184
The restrictions you're talking about are mostly thing like lenght or pacing
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>>331467494
I can't spell right
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Flying Lotus / Captain Murphy
J Dilla
Daft Punk
Jan Johannson
Little Dragon

Peanut Butter Wolf
Madlib / Quasimoto
MF DOOM
Flobots
Stateless

TV on the Radio
Ghostface Killa
Gorillaz
Death Grips
Atmosphere

Grieves
Dear Science
Danny Brown
Canibus
Chance The Rapper

Africa Hi Tech
Asheru
Cage the Elephant
Del The Funky Homosapien
Green Day
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>>331458080
I was thinking Kek Winter Meme and Soldiers of the Memeland but w/e
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Cibo Matto

I really really enjoyed Hotel Valentine
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Klayton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMimeO279YE
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>>331447637
Why do people criticize the medium of video games as a whole when they're just another medium?

Shit man, I'm just puzzled. They're just fucking video games, why do people have to act like they're so bad?
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>>331467745
>TV on the Radio
My nigga, I hardly ever see anyone mention this band anymore.

I was just thinking the other day, if some dev made a game set in Africa or some Africa-like setting, TVotR would make an excellent soundtrack for that game.
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>>331447637
>it's a guy who hates video games browses /v/ episode
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This fat fuck would make some god-tier vidya music.
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>>331468850
It makes them feel like it legitimizes their favorite medium more when in actuality their favorite medium doesn't need to be legitimized and they're just an insecure retard.
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>>331447494
>ctrl+f "Trent Reznor"
>1 result found
pleasantly surprised
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>>331447494
Didn't he do music for Quake?
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>>331469315
yep
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>>331445758
Had TBK on today. A dynamic score by Swans would be fucking insane
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>>331468850
Most people on /v/ have the "video games are for kids" mindset
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>>331464864
Okey
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>>331448510
Fucking this
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I'd love to see Daft Punk do something. I thought they did a great job at making the soundtrack for Tron: Legacy, but it'd be interesting to see how they'd handle a video game soundtrack.
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>>331468967
Breaking Bad turned me on to TVotR. I've only listened to one album so far, but I plan on diving into their full discography when I have some time.
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>>331469167
I think it's because video games are still relatively new. These morons don't understand that literally EVERY other medium got flak when they were just getting off the ground too. Film, radio, popular music, hell, even a lot of classical music got its detractors back in the day, in the 18th/19th centuries and so on.

I mean by this point, people should know better. Of course video games have the potential to be 'legitimate', not to mention they're never judged the way a game should be judged by these people.

But yes a lot of these people are just insecure fucks who want to appear smarter than they actually are. Shitting on a medium that doesn't quite have the acceptance that others do is just easy I guess.
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Micheal Jackson made the music in Sonic 3

He said he didn't like how it turned out though so didnt want to be credited
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>>331469385
Why? It's so fucking stupid and pathetic. Enjoy your fucking medium and don't give a fuck what people say, losers.

>>331469707
What album? Dear Science, right? I fully recommend Return to Cookie Mountain and Nine Types of Light. Seeds was alright from what I remember.

I still need to listen to Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes outside of the few songs I've heard off of it though. Maybe I'll get to that later today.
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Umm... Any of them, I guess.

The Pharcyde (or their DJs), The Knife, September('s writers and producers), Panjabi MC.
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Mica Levi
Flying Lotus
Swans
HEALTH (wait)
GY!BE
Aphex Twin
Jonny Greenwood
Laurel Halo
Oneohtrix Point Never
Thom Yorke
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>>331448573
I would kill for it, godamn it!
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>>331470079
Yep, Dear Science. Thanks for the recommendations. I was going to ask you for some, but deleted it from my last post last second. I'll check those out.
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>>331448573
YANKI U.X.O is literally, "all is fucking lost" too man.
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>>331469779
>I think it's because video games are still relatively new. These morons don't understand that literally EVERY other medium got flak when they were just getting off the ground too. Film, radio, popular music, hell, even a lot of classical music got its detractors back in the day, in the 18th/19th centuries and so on.

You're comparing mediums that were born under radically different economic and social climates. Mediums that had a chance to be born and mature in an eviroment where post-modernism and pop art hadn't completely warped the very idea of art into a grotesque parody of itself. Why do you think comic books died as a legitimate art form? Video games don't stand a chance to be taken seriously as an art form because society no longer takes art seriously in general.
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>>331450124
>>331450269
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>>331445572
Mozart
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No one's said it yet: The Go! Team.
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>>331470079
>Enjoy your fucking medium
I think that's the problem, /v/ don't enjoy games.
They treat them as something inferior to all the mainstream stuff. They're basically normies
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tim hecker
brian eno (he's done sound some sound design, but a full ost from him would be goat)
cashmere cat
40
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>>331470134
>FlyLo OST for a DRPG
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>>331470467
No problem man, and I haven't heard of a lot of the artists in your post. I'll check some of those out too dude, thank you.

>>331470485
>You're comparing mediums that were born under radically different economic and social climates. Mediums that had a chance to be born and mature in an eviroment where post-modernism and pop art hadn't completely warped the very idea of art into a grotesque parody of itself.
I mean...that doesn't mean that there will never be anything made ever that can comfortably be called 'art'. That is such a flawed argument for so many reasons. What even constitutes 'art', for one thing? Also post-modernism and pop art still influenced basically every medium.

>Why do you think comic books died as a legitimate art form?
The Comics Code. And even then, for one thing, you'd only be talking about the American comic book industry, and two, there are still many examples of artsy comic books being made, you just need to know where to look.

>Video games don't stand a chance to be taken seriously as an art form because society no longer takes art seriously in general.
That's bullshit and you know it.

>>331470645
/v/ needs to fuck off with that attitude.
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>>331471541
>Also post-modernism and pop art still influenced basically every medium.
Which is why we jump in and out of trends, discarding them every two years at best without upholding anything to any high standards whatsoever. A disposable culture that nobody values outside of temporary trends designed to just turn in profits is not a culture than can evolve or produce anything great over time, which is why we still turn to works of old for inspiration while our modern mass markets are filled with trash, and why literature and cinema have been stagnating without any real innovations (aside from visual effects when it comes to movies, which is more of an evolution in technology) for decades.

>And even then, for one thing, you'd only be talking about the American comic book industry
>muh mangos are tr00 art

>there are still many examples of artsy comic books being made, you just need to know where to look.
Just because there's one or two wankers out there throwing in some shitty pseudo-intellectual plot into the same tired comic books doesn't mean they're doing anything to move the medium forward. As a whole, it's dead.

>That's bullshit and you know it.
No it isn't, and you must be seriously deluded to think otherwise.
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>>331471541
>>331472276
this is informative, keep going.
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Drake
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>>331445572
This motherfucker
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>>331472276
>Which is why we jump in and out of trends, discarding them every two years at best without upholding anything to any high standards whatsoever.
Sounds like a complaint against the masses to me. They're the ones who latch onto trends and throw them away when they're no longer in vogue. The masses have always been unintelligent compared to the relatively cultured few.

>A disposable culture that nobody values outside of temporary trends designed to just turn in profits is not a culture than can evolve or produce anything great over time, which is why we still turn to works of old for inspiration while our modern mass markets are filled with trash, and why literature and cinema have been stagnating without any real innovations (aside from visual effects when it comes to movies, which is more of an evolution in technology) for decades.
This is more of a complaint about consumerist culture than anything. What's that law that says that 90% of everything is going to be shit? That's the way it's always been, buddy.

Also you speak of innovation, what sort of innovation do you even want to see? It's there, you just need to dig into the meat of each medium and find the hidden stuff.

>>muh mangos are tr00 art
I actually read more Western comic books than manga, but that's still basically true. Like dude, look up 'sequential art' and actually research the medium.

>Just because there's one or two wankers out there throwing in some shitty pseudo-intellectual plot into the same tired comic books doesn't mean they're doing anything to move the medium forward. As a whole, it's dead.
Do you even read comic books? Go to /co/ and see what they say.

>No it isn't, and you must be seriously deluded to think otherwise.
Considering that there are multiple prominent and high-profile creators outside of video games who have taken an interest in the medium, dabbling in it, you are wrong.
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Rick Schaffers music in VtM:B is fucking amazing. Even the unused tracks are great.
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>>331470134

>Aphex Twin in collab with Del Toro on a horror game


Fuuuuuuuuuuuck son.
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>>331473959
>tfw never will get an Aphex Twin/Robert Henke collab for a vidya.
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>>331472276
>completely disregarding one of his points entirely with a greentext meme
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>>331445758
To be fair this is pretty much the soundtrack to borderlands 1
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>>331473706
>Sounds like a complaint against the masses to me
>This is more of a complaint about consumerist culture than anything
Neither changes the fact that video games are a victim of their time and have virtually no chance to evolve into anything worthwhile due to it having no cultural equivalent of an aristocracy or a high culture to demand a collective push for higher standards. I never argued that video games are inherently shit because of their format.

>Go to /co/
>Go to /co/
>Go to /co/
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>>331474228
>Neither changes the fact that video games are a victim of their time and have virtually no chance to evolve into anything worthwhile due to it having no cultural equivalent of an aristocracy or a high culture to demand a collective push for higher standards. I never argued that video games are inherently shit because of their format.
I....I got nothing.

>>331474228
>>Go to /co/
>>Go to /co/
>>Go to /co/
/co/ has storytimes of indies and lesser known stuff all the time.
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