Why are you paying for illegally downloaded roms?
It's alright when Nintendo commits it
gog download their games from the internet and then sell 'em
>>331419730
GOG is shit too
>>331419730
Steams Max Payne 2 version uses a scene crack.
So can some one show proof?
>>331419730
Not even trying to hide they used cracks aswell
>>331419317
Yes but Nintendo has the copyrights to do that, you dense piratecuck.
>>331419317
If Nintendo downloaded it from the internet, then it isn't illegal, it's their property.
Basically, the guy who made the rom did a bunch of unpaid labor for Nintendo, since the rom he made was Nintendo property all along.
Why should Nintendo pay someone to make a rom when someone already did it for them?
He cucked himself and didn't even know it.
>>331419730
That's one of the reason why I don't care about GoG, even if they don't do that anymore
Fuck them
>>331419317
>There's no such thing as abandonware :^) It's always piracy!
>Hey go-- guys, we've "remastered" our classic game we forgot we had the rights to! Now you can play it on modern systems just fine, in Dosbox! Oh, and it's "DRM free" too!
It's always fucking hilarious to me when there is a TAS or speedrun discussion between emulation and hardware, and there is always one retard saying "But what about Virtual Console?"
>>331419868
Ez, find a eshop NES dump, rename the .bin to .nes and run this program
http://www.romhacking.net/utilities/683/
If it shows an header they are using a dumped scene release.
>>331419937
Of course a dumb cuck like you would say that
>muh copyrights
>mfw Nintendo "re-sold" earthbound on the wii-U for $15
I don't even pay for 3ds games anymore.
What makes them think I'm going to pay $20 for a 20 year old game?
>>331420125
VC releases are many times so fucked that you are better of using an emulator like Bizhawk for speedruns.
>>331419317
roms is fine (even though it's insanely overpriced and should be across all platforms you own)
But if they were using a popular emulator, that'd be BS. I expect them to make their own emulator that's 100% accurate
>>331420125
>Google the picture
>Leg tattoo
welp
>>331419730
Do they still put in the work to make sure the games work on modern operating systems? I was more than happy to get their versions of the Dungeon Keeper games even though I've owned the discs for years.
>>331420125
>But what about virtual console
This never fails to amuse me.
>>331420221
>only pirate fags care not of copyrights
>World War 3 will be waged over a copyright
enjoy being ded faggot.
>>331420354
>>>/pol/sunday school
What a bunch of scumbags and they expect you to buy them all over again each generation.
>>331420402
But Gog uses Dosbox with custom configs at best.
>>331420354
Got a problem with that? I'll let you know my wife has tattoos all ovwr her body, what chu gon do about it?
Nah I do t buy this for a second. Just because their shit is compatible with some literally who memeulator doesn't necessarily mean that they copy pasted or even used the assets from it.
>>331420095
>There's no such thing as abandonware :^) It's always piracy!
But that is true. Abandonware is just shorthand for "this game hasn't been sold for a while so hopefully the copyright holder won't sue us if we distribute it on the internet". The legal period for copyright expiration after which it would actually be legal to distribute a game without the copyright holder's explicit permission is 95-120 years, so it's safe to say no computer game falls under that category.
>>331420479
>Not having standards
After all your time here, you've learned nothing.
>>331420354
>google the picture
>Yan Ke Ke And Barbie Ke Er
>>331420604
Whatever makes her bull feel good.
>>331419972
The cuck posting retard is right.
At least, I'm fairly certain. I don't really know what the laws on roms are and I'm sort of suspicious that the lawmakers don't really know either. But if there are already roms out there and Nintendo de facto owns them all anyway, why bother making another one? Sure, it rubs me the wrong way on an emotional level, but there doesn't seem to be an actual argument about why this is bad.
Except for the fact that it highlights how you could easily be playing these exact same, not only games but actual files, for free. And shows how incredibly tech illiterate the vast majority of gaming consumers are, that its a viable business strategy to basically sell bottled tap water to people. And sort of undercuts the economic arguments about piracy.
>>331420626
>95-120 years
Holy shit Disney
>>331420634
>Frequenting /v/
>Having standards
No, sir, I've learned it all.
>>331419317
>>331419669
>>331419730
It's not illegal when you own the fucking rights to the game.
Pirates crying that other people are stealing their work, lmao. BTFO
>>331420621
I don't think you know what a header is.
>>331420604
t. numale and proud
>>331420626
There's at least one legit instance of Abandonware which I know of and that is Daggerfall, you can even download it directly from Bethesda's website.
>>331420626
>95-120 years
Haha get fucked
It's abandonware.
Copyright is a sham
NINTENDO DINDU NUFFIN DEY GOOD BOYS NEED MO MONEY FOR DEM NX PORTS
>>331420621
>memeulator
how did we let /v/ get like this
>>331420764
Well, nintendo using ines header format, which means they adopted piracy rom format, and i'm pretty sure they are using open source emulator source code, because japs can't code for shit.
>>331419317
This only accentuates the importance of piracy in a preservation of video games sense.
Corporations do not care about their own games enough to adequately save them for the future generations.
>>331421084
>japs can't code for shit
>they create brand new engines for every single game
figures why jap games are so shit
>>331420986
>that commie bullshit narrative
Disney made a snowwhite, so I should be able to use trademarks to make my product look better to the uninformed customer and thus lowering its value
>>331420621
The fact that it can pretty much proves that it's using the old iNES standard.
Now if it had the CHR, PRG roms, etc in separate formats that would be another story.
lel
>>331420986
As much of a sham it is, people get busted by it all the time.
I'm not. I hacked my 3DS so I can just inject any rom I want into the cia files.
>>331419730
GOG repacks are more convenient than piracy.
There are already a billion ways to play NES roms that are more convenient than paying for it on your 3DS.
>>331421075
Stop being on 4chan when America is awake.
>>331420951
That's not abandonware, that's just the game being released for free by the copyright owners, so it's just a free game. Abandonware is used to refer specifically to games that seem to have been abandoned by the copyright holder (not distributed anywhere for a long period of time), hence "abandon".
>>331420986
>Copyright is a sham
Whether you like it or not is irrelevant.
>>331419317
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA FUCK PIRACY RIGHT HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>331421190
This so damn much.
Remember when SEGA lost the source code to Panzer Dragoon? kek good times.
>>331421318
They're more convenient for piracy more like.
>>331421219
Disney sends cease and desists to highschools that try to put on the Hunchback of Notre Dame play. Copyright apologists always make me LOL so hard.
>>331420402
>Do they still put in the work to make sure the games work on modern operating systems?
bruh, GOG hasn't been Good Old Games for years. they really really really want to be Not Steam, with their own worthless 'but it does multiplayer!' launcher application and everything
>>331420626
>95-120 years,
What in the flying fuck
>>331420125
>vc
Oh ye man let me go create tasbot for wii xDd
>SNK did this
>Nintendo did this
Who else BTFO of piratefags for profit?
>>331419317
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo lost the original source files a long time ago, it seems to be common for big companies.
so you've decided to steal videogames
MYTH: video game piracy is wrong
FACT: video games are made by businesses out of self-interest, which makes stealing them ok
>>331419730
But GOG is DRM free which is a consumer friendly business practice. I would be upset if Steam used pirated old games not GOG though.
>>331421449
There are Wii tases already - nerds are just autistic about muh 100% accuracy and muh real machine inputs
>>331421219
>>331420764
>>331419937
Corporations have more rights than individuals, as it should be.
It's literally OK when Nintendo does it. Piratecucks crying should be put in jail get BTFO
>>331421219
You're the commie you retard, you're supporting the communist oligarchy of freedom for those in power and shooting yourself in the foot by giving up on your freedom for no reason whatsoever. This is not what your ancestors died for you cuck.
>>331421528
>stealing anything
>OK
you dense faggot.
>>331421442
You can thank Disney for that.
Disney lawyers are so scary, I've heard that they get very loopy (as if they're playing a character) on court but at the same time very serious and burtal at the law system. At least that's what ive been told, wish there was some kind of video
>>331419937
The least they could do is thank the pirates for giving Nintendo the means to make money off of Nintendo's old games.
>>331421528
>MYTH: video game piracy is wrong
That is a myth though.
>>331421341
Actually it's completely relavent.
When huge numbers of people decide to do something new, then -- like it or not -- that new thing automatically becomes the moral norm.
In this case, huge numbers of people have all independently decided that copyright is not as important to them as it is to the congressmen who felt it necessary to install a strong copyright regime into law.
So I have a choice: I can take my cues about whether or not piracy is justified from the millions of people who have all decided that copyright is not a particularly important concept. Or I can take my cues about morality from a few hundred congressmen who had their re-election expenses paid in part by the publishing industry as a quid-pro-quo to ensure that tough copyright laws got passed.
As you can probably guess, this isn't really a hard moral call for me to make.
>>331421663
I'm not seeing how playing 20 years old rom dump without paying nintendo 5 bucks - stealing.
>>331421663
>stealing
>>331421385
Yep. If I can I always try to download GOG torrent because of how open it is. Thanks suckers!
>>331421517
The original source files aren't relevant in this context since they're not gonna port the game over to the 3DS. They'd need to either get the entire toolchain required to compile a NES game up and running, or the game's cart and the required hardware to dump it.
Or they could just go to coolroms and download it in 30 seconds.
>>331421581
>So even if consumers have no option to physically or digitally purchase a game, piracy is still wrong?
>VIOLATING MUH COPYRIGHT MUHFUCKA FO SHO
This pic, these arguments, every time.
>>331421670
That's creepy
>>331419317
>>331419730
Not like crack groups can come out and claim ownership.
>>331420713
>its a viable business strategy to basically sell bottled tap water to people.
Alas, a painfully accurate analogy.
>trying to shutdown emuparadise when they use it anyways
Comedy gold
>>331421820
>since they're not gonna port the game over to the 3DS
Actually, most nintendo kids believe this is exactly what nintedo doing to VC titles.
>>331421839
'i am entitled to this game'
>>331420604
Shut up and go spend time with your wife's son.
>>331420626
>95-120 years
It's supposed to end the second the original creator dies you stupid fuck.
>>331420626
It's 70 years where I live.
Sucks for you, America.
>>331419862
>>331419730
how the fuck does this even make sense?
>developer decides to release game on platform
>developer gives a version of the game that the platform requires, basically a build that either includes DRM or not
>the platform and the developer are in perfect accordance with which version of the game is on their servers
>people somehow say that GOG and Steam use the same code as a crack
>>331421517
How can you possible not have a backup of stuff? Shit, I still have backups of stuff from 10 years ago when I was in middle school. I was a fucking kid and knew how to back stuff up.And by that, I mean that I still have the pictures of the hot girls at school that I saved from picture trail burned on a CD somewhere. Transferred from a floppy disk, of course.
>>331421927
'you should not be allowed to play this out of print media that is no longer available for purchase because of obstuse copyright laws'
Damn fucking right I'm entitled to this game. Go fuck your mother.
>>331419730
>GOG and Steam use cracks
Nope. They offer the platform for games to get sold by publishers.
It's the publishers decision to use cracks made by pirates.
>>331421957
and All of Walt Disney's works because freeware after his passing.
>>331422014
Cracks for older games that wouldn't work on modern operating systems anymore sometimes contain fixed to make them work anyway.
Developers re-releasing old games on Steam or GOG often just use these cracks instead of fixing the game themselves.
>>331420634
What is it about tattoos that gets poltards so worked up?
>>331422014
>people somehow say that GOG and Steam use the same code as a crack
Well people opened an hexeditor on both steam/gog and cracked .exes and figure that shit out.
Wouldn't be surprised if that the version given to gog is a scene release.
>>331422218
It's degenerate
>>331421442
Disney is a piece of shit company. They use characters from the public domain in a lot of their early stuff and then fought to extend the amount of time it takes for shit to get into public domain so no one can use their characters besides them. Honestly, I don't see how anyone can support them or how that is legal.
>>331422014
I've read your posts multiple times and I have no idea what you're trying to say.
>>331422093
Companies aren't capable of protecting anything and cannot be trusted to. Fucking KONAMI lost all the source code for the Silent Hill games. They probably threw out the archives because of lack of space or some bullshit. If it wasn't for piracy fat chance of you ever getting to play a proper HD version of them. Companies only care about costs. If they go their property goes with them or often get lost during transitions.
Right now piracy is the only thing protecting games from going extinct is piracy. They will never disappear if they are present on millions of consumer PC's ready to get uploaded, DRM free for anyone to use. Pro tip: just because a torrent is dead doesn't mean the files are gone and no one has it any longer. The Scene doesn't exist and meant to let people get stuff for free. It exists for archival purposes. That's why there are standards about releases.
>>331420125
>>331420354
>Google the picture
>literally no ass
>>331422218
>muh degeneracy
>>331422218
It's slutty
See also: piercings are triggering, earrings aren't
Mental illness
>>331422014
>developer
>scene crack
That code is not from the developer, meaning it's unofficial. It's using injected assembly/c code from hackers .
>>331422264
Degeneracy is a buzzword.
>>331422014
>basically a build that either includes DRM or not
You can loose source code.
Dev team can be long go.
Only fast way to make game playable with protection - get master build (they all have protection), go to gamecopyworld and download crack for needed version.
>>331422290
>google you
>literally a nigger
>>331422123
Does your mom know you're posting here?
>>331422346
Right, but what I'm asking is why the fucking dev would need to crack his own game and then give it to GOG.
>>331422420
Because there never was a DRM-free version?
>>331422264
How? Reminds you of all the excons that used to fuck your mother?
>PIRACY IS BAD PLEASE SUPPORT US
>piracy is literally saving gaming by preserving files companies can't be assed to safeguard.
This is hilarious in many many ways.
>>331422284
Everyone threw out source code out back then
It was just an excuse from the devs part, Bluepoint make the best HD ports and they only use the retail disc of the game to make a pc version, then they port that to ps3/xbox
Silent hill 2 and 3 already had PC versions
Incompetency all around
>>331422470
Well shit
I'm fucking done. That's just retarded.I can't be the only one confused about this, right?
>>331422329
Lol
>>331422420
Because DRM isn't something that's just slapped on top of the game at the end in a lot of cases.
>>331421951
>>331422397
Settle down Ireland its almost time for your afternoon nap.
>>331421773
>When huge numbers of people decide to do something new, then -- like it or not -- that new thing automatically becomes the moral norm.
First, you'd need to define exactly how much is "huge numbers of people", how you arrived at the conclusion that this number is sufficient to change the "moral norm", and how exactly did you accurately quantify the number of people that support whatever moral norm you consider right.
And then there's the little but important fact that it's still illegal. Overriding the law with your own moral compass is the kind of thing you see in ghettos where the 'hood culture is the rule, and people will feel morally in the right for robbing you and/or killing you because you wore the wrong color of shirt.
If you want to pirate just pirate, but holy shit don't try to make excuses as to why it's morally justifiable. At least man the fuck up and accept your guilt.
>>331422548
Well why not? Game are built with a form of DRM embedded in them because the dev/publisher doesn't want it to be pirated, what's there to be confused about?
>>331422397
Mad titfag detected
Don't worry, you'll understand when you reach puberty in a few years :^)
>>331422284
>lack of space or some bullshit
Hard drive space used to be expensive. Why would a company keep around tens if not hundreds of gigabytes of uncompressed assets and old source code revisions when the game's finished and shipped?
>>331421773
>When huge numbers of people decide to do something new, then -- like it or not -- that new thing automatically becomes the moral norm.
That's just wrong
>>331422014
You are very young aren't you?
Practicing for the high school debate club?
Read about Half life and how much of Quake source code it uses.
Then read about Team Fortress( not about Team fortress 2) and its relation to Counter Strike.
Jews love the software business because in the software business you can copy everything.
But jews despise people that copy their work thus the hypocrisy of Valve and other big jew companies.
>>331422420
Likely because the original devs got paid for their work and are doing something else, be it another project or working for another company. So, somebody, either the publisher, GOG, or another party will think to use the crack.
Remember that a lot of these games that are using these cracks are at least several years old by the time they're released on GOG, there's quite a big gap and a lot can happen within the span of a few years.
>>331422760
It's called a license, retard
>>331420764
There's a difference between distributing copies of something for free, and selling stolen work for a profit.
>>331419317
Well it doesn't really matter because nintendo owns the IP.
>>331422548
The source code is lost, or the copyright holder is not willing to pay a programmer to remove the DRM from it when they can download and apply a crack in a minute. It's not that hard to grasp, and in the end it changes nothing from a legal point of view.
>>331419317
But Nintendo still owns the rights to those ROMS either you dumped them or not.
Keep crying cuck boy.
>>331422823
>license
Get cancer tool of the corporations.
>>331421581
>the problem is that it's illegal
what a lawyerism. logic doesn't matter, it's illegal, therefore stoppit!!
>>331422764
>>331422947
Yeah, makes sense. I ask as someone who uses SVN and GIt a whole lot, how in the name of Allah do you lose your source code?
>>331422702
It almost seems like they know their game will fail and they add DRM from the beginning so they can squeeze as many sales out of it as possible.
>>331422402
Oh the irony. You little shits are the biggest corporate shills ever being manipulated like never before by corporate interests.
I've been trading Spectrum games while you were still in your daddy's nutsack kid.
>>331422982
How is it hypocrisy though? You need to pay before you copy regardless of if you are a corporation or a single individual.
>>331419972
>>331420626
>>331421442
>>331421957
>>331422123
>>331422284
Videogames should enter the public domain after 5 years max, see pic related. 50% Steam sales for a game less than two years after publication prove that the big money on a title gets made in these two years, and that copyright (which main purpose is to incentivice creators to create stuff) for that period plus some is sufficient to keep publication of new titles at a steady rate.
>>331423112
>Videogames should enter the public domain after 5 years max
t. idiot
>>331423037
It seems impossible when you look at it with modern standards but you have to keep in mind we're talking about games from 15+ years ago, where source control wasn't really a thing.
>mfw I keep all of my games perfectly ordered on my backup HDD
>mfw you can't even find some of them today
Call me a file hoarder, but in the future, when shit hits the fan I'll be the one laughing.
ITT: Pirates mad about their cracks getting used without compensation
How funny.
You crack games to avoid paying for them but when publishers use those cracks to sell additional DRM free versions of the game you get butthurt.
>>331423189
Oh, right. I dunno, I remember seeing a thread a while back about how some recent indie game had the same thing happen to it.
>>331422676
>guilt
>for stupid copyright law
Literally hurting no one. Unlike robbing and killing.
>>331423257
You wouldnt even know what to do in a SHTF scenario. ROFL.
>>331423174
Disney please go.
>You will die before Mickey Mouse is public domainAnd should you have grand-grand-grand-grand-children they will die before that too.
>without pirates there would be no gog
>without pirates there would be no Virtual Console releases
39 big laffs
>>331423174
read the fucking article, you mongoloid dipshit.
>>331421316
That's such a waste of space. Why not just install an emulator?
>>331423259
it's more like "why the fuck would you pay for a game that is LITERALLY the same as a fucking crack"
oh wait, i'm being baited by /buyersremorse/fag
>>331423037
>I ask as someone who uses SVN and GIt a whole lot, how in the name of Allah do you lose your source code?
You are hopefully aware of the fact cloud storage is pretty recent, still in the process of being adopted, and these are old as fuck games we're talking about. Keeping secure copies of stuff is complex and expensive; sometimes companies only keep the last X years worth of stuff, sometimes the storage medium is damaged/misplaced/stolen. These things are much more likely to happen in big companies as well.
>>331423112
Give it 10 years. But yeah current situation is absurd.
>>331423112
>Videogames should enter the public domain after 5 years max
Nah, I think same period as a patent, around 20 years, is reasonable enough.
>>331422548
I get why you're confused. You would think as a developer you could just "//" comment out the DRM code compile it and call it a day.
We wish it was that easy.
When you work for a company, everything you code goes to the Rights of the Company. And I think as a result, depending on how the Company handles source codes, even the developer sometimes can't have a copy of his work, Stupid right? So lets say you left the company. If you wanted to release a DRM Free version you would have to contact the Company, but why even bother? It's a waste of time for them.
>>331423330
I can't hear you over my folders of obscure gems.
>>331421919
Emuparadise is literally owned by some rich Arabian sheik. It's never going down.
>>331423392
Comfort is the answer.
Steam and GOG offer a cheap service by giving you an easy to use library that offers stuff you can't get the pirate way like achievements, leaderboards and so on.
>>331423383
Because the hombrew GBA emulator on the 3DS is garbage compared to the one built in
Also, it's the same file size as the rom...
>>331423382
I'm very familiar with FSF nonsense, thanks
>>331420125
Those must be some tiny nipples
>>331423257
I do the same shit.I don't have that many that you can't find in the internet though. Like 5 or so.
>>331423519
Based Middle East saving our culture.
I remember when no-intro tried to strip NES headers from the romset to mimic Byuu doing so for the SNES. Ended up with Byuu calling them fucking retarded because NES emulators must have that information to tell them how the cartridge board is laid out.
So basically Nintendo's options were to either use the solution that already exists, or to spend the time re-creating the same solution again for no reason.
>>331423392
I hope you remember to back up all of your save files every time you stop playing a game :^)
Really, though, I don't like playing games unless I get cloud saves. I get anxiety knowing that my HDD can crash and I could lose all of my progress.
>>331419317
The guy from Ross' Gaming Dungeon would probably cry at this thread.
Since above all else he believes games should never be allowed to die or vanish. He's been railing against online-only games being shut down forever in a lot of his recent vids
>>331422710
Becuase it's their resposibility to do so. And if they can't handle said responsibility then they have no buisness abusing copyright law to harrass archivists (also known as pirates) who are effectively doing their work for them.
Also you're greatly exagerating by assuming the size and scale of data needed to be stored decades ago is the exact same as today. It would most likely come down to hundreads of megabytes or at most a few gigabytes if we're talking pre-2000 games.
>>331423557
>I'm very familiar with FSF nonsense, thanks
t. idiot
>>331422093
>How can you possibly not have a backup of stuff?
jap companies are fucking retarded and throw out old code or wipe computers to reuse them elsewhere
>get the product out, move on
is their MO
>>331422164
I said supposed to, didn't I?
Any proof besides some literally who claiming it in a PowerPoint?
>>331423523
if you think those features are useful to you, go ahead. no one's stopping you from spending money. there is also the added comfort of being able to easily redownload your games if you build a new computer.
i get around that by saving all my ISOs and RARs in a separate drive.
>>331423752
y'know what? i've never had a (vidya) drive fail on me. my media drive has failed on me before, but thankfully i was able to recover everything before it went to complete shit. but again, if you think it's a useful feature, by all means, go for it.
![[HorribleSubs]_One-Punch_Man_-_11_[720p].mkv_snapshot_22.25_[2015.12.13_19.36.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gT3vja5.jpg "[HorribleSubs]_One-Punch_Man_-_11_[720p].mkv_snapshot_22.25_[2015.12.13_19.36.37].jpg")
>wah why don't publishers spend their own valuable time to create their own crack instead of just using one that already exists
Duh
>why should i buy a DRM-free game when the pirate version is just like it?
Well, if you pirate all DRM free games the only option for publishers is to DRM secure their games if they want money. Good that DRM free sites like GOG and Humble are doing well tho.
>DRM free games are more easy to pirate
Not really. Games that use Steamworks are just as easy to pirate. You are only missing out on achievements and trading cards but who really cares about that stuff? Especially cards are worthless now with the new market limitations.
>>331423037
Many older games on GOG that do require the cracks were made in the Web 1.0 & 2.0 days, where internet/network infrastructure overall was certainly not as well developed as it is today and wasn't as widespread.
Hardware failures, shittier storage mediums, people forgetting backup routines, the hardware the source code is on is replaced by something newer and gets lost to the dumpster, shit gets destroyed in a fire, etc.
Very rarely you can recover from having lost source code, The Original Strife (as it is named on Steam) was lucky enough that it used the Doom engine and thus Doom modders helped implement support for it in ZDoom, and one guy engineered a new source port for its official re-release
>>331420634
men don't have standards
>>331420354
It's ok anon, I'm not fond of tattoos, kind of a turnoff.
>>331423976
keep drinking that koolaid friend
>>331422397
low test detected
>>331423696
When the western world goes to shit, the Muslims always got us, backing up all our important data. Thanks Muslims.
>>331422271
He's saying that it makes no sense for the developer to go hunting online for hacks made for his program when, having all the source materials, he could easily put whatever's needed together and just put it to sale.
Incorporating hacks to circumvent parts of the program like DRM is, hacky. Doesn't seem like the easiest way to do it at all.
>>331424227
Oh the ironing.
You're literally drinking the corporate Disney koolaid
>>331424227
it is actually a better article than most things RMS has written.
>>331423257
I do the same thing withhentai
>>331423093
Do you think Gabriel Newell had a licence to copy John Carmacks work?
So naive...
>>331423093
I already payed when I bought my pc
Jews are still mad Jesus copied a bunch of fishes back in the day
Do you guys think that one day they'll wipe out every single website hosting roms and games from the internet?
>>331424067
It's been a fear of mine every since I was a kid. I lost my PS1 memory card with 100% progress on every game I owned. A few years later they found it melted inside the gas heater in my grandma's house. I guess it somehow got hit into there on accident. It seriously fucking sucks losing all of your progress.
>>331423257
>mfw I obtained a copy of a very popular korean mmo game server
>copy is nowhere to be found on the internet.
>copy is chinese language, working on translating it back to english
>tfw I could make myself a lot of dank dosh if I plan to host the server. It's been heavily modified for "play to win" status already.
>don't wanna get ass raped byNexon.in court
What do guys? Should I put the server in alaha akulbar in a VPS and install like 3 VPNs on my computer to get not detected? Or am I just fucked in the end regardless
>>331420301
$30 dollars for an old game? Paying $50 dollars for any game is outrageous!
>>331424386
They'll sure try.
Once we got the infrastructure supporting it everything will get streamed. Operation systems, software and games will all be available via monthles fees.
So they goodbye to your pirate abilities.
>>331424386
No.
>>331424508
The future is shit, we know.
>>331419317
it was their property in the first place lol. it's like you start squatting in someones basement and then get mad when they rent it to people.
>>331423259
We get mad at idiots paying for pirate copies
Always have, always will
The point of piracy is sharing for free
Daily reminder that without piracy, people wouldn't know what Silent Hills/PT was. DRM is bad for the industry and bad for vidya culture as a whole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-85jO6nRNQ
>>331424618
People pay because they want to support something.
You are even more retarded if you buy games on Steam only to get cards worth 4 cent each and achievements which are editable via SAM.
>>331424358
pretty sure it's mentioned in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCafnH_eisA that id software made big amounts of money from licensing out their engines to other titles. It makes sense to assume that Half-Life made before Quake was released under GPL, since if valve had used the GPLed code, Half life would have had to be under the terms of the GPL (read: Free and open source software) as well.
>>331419317
What the fuck difference does it make? It's their goddamn game. I mean, either way you're a dumbass for paying for a ROM but why the hell should it matter that they downloaded it from the internet?
>>331424698
I don't buy on Steam
I don't like "licenses"
>>331422742
It really isn't. Millions of people engage in copyright infringement every day while using the internet and backing up their own media, even though they might be unaware of it. It's gotten to the point where directors are literally bragging about HBO piracy numbers because of how many times Games of Thrones was downloaded
A perfect example is 4chan. This entire site infringes copyright every second of everyday. The concept, an image board, cannot legally function. The only reason 4chan can exist in the US is because threads are temporary. Reddit, by contrast, isn't an imageboard. That's not a coincidence. If the law could somehow work as fast as a 4chan thread, there would be no 4chan.
>>331422676
See above.
>And then there's the little but important fact that it's still illegal. Overriding the law with your own moral compass blah blah blah false equivalence
Which isn't important at all, and is in fact mostly irrelavent in the grand scheme of things for reasons I described. The law is not an objective moral compass, and your desperate attempt at comparing neckbeards downloading games in their basement to gang violence, robbery and murder in the ghetto is beyond repugnant and quite honestly pathetic.
Don't try to use the law as an excuse as to why piracy morally justifiable. How about you man the fuck up instead of imposing your own moral values and guilt on other people on a chineese cartoon website.
Because unless you can honestly say that you don't have any copywrighted material on your harddrive and have never streamed media including movies, music, anime, comics, porn etc without compensating the original creator, you can fuck RIGHT off with your hypocritical moral posturing.
>>331420125
Where can I buy some warped buttons to also go with my non photoshopped tits?
>>331424924
You always buy licenses.
Thats how it always has been.
Even if you got a physical drm-free copy 20 years ago.
>>331424885
>>331423259
see
>>331421581
>People Making Nintendo Emulators and Nintendo ROMs are Helping Publishers by Making Old Games Available. This Does Not Hurt Anyone and Allows Gamers to Play Old Favorites. What's the Problem?
>Nintendo: The problem is that it's illegal.
STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES MOUTH YOU DUMB CUNTS
>>331425013
I DO NOT BUY.
>>331420764
>It's not illegal when you own the fucking rights to the game.
No, but it does demonstrate ultimate jewery, especially when the company doing it is the one who's fans on /v/ are constantly bragging is so rich that they could not sell another product for 80 years and still be rich.
Nintendo is fucking scum, and /v/ defends it. They'll gladly throw any other company who pulls this shit under the bus, and rightfully so, but yet it's okay when Nintendo does it for some reason.
>>331424885
>What the fuck difference does it make?
it creates holes in the Law, even it it's their game, the support isn't
it could make a lot of differences based on the original media and it's redistribution
to make it really short: it's possible to attack nintendo for piracy
>>331421581
I emulate all Nintendo game and feel proud of it. They don't deserve my money.
Nintendo is the only company legally allowed to download their roms. Doesn't matter who dumped them, the games are Nintendo's intellectual property.
>>331420764
>>331425218
>It's not illegal when you own the fucking rights to the game.
If downloading games you already own a rightful copy of is illegal then it sure as fuck is illegal when Nintendo does it.
>>331425158
You figure that out with your fancy law degree anon? Because that feels suspect to me.
>>331425271
Delicious ad hominem.
>>331419317
Guys, stop.
Piracy is destroying the NES.
>>331424742
Kid I was a teenager when Half life was released.
I didn't have a computer at home that can run it, so I played it in an internet coffee shop.
Most of the Half life engine is Quake and some functions and code from Quake 2.
Half life is a great game and I would not like that some Swat team arrested Gabe Newell for copying parts of Quake to make a new standalone game with a great story...
Gabe Newel became something else when Steam got popular and grew into what Steam is now. But he knows his roots. DOTA2 and Portal 2 and Portal and some other games would never happen if it wasn't for Gabe Newell and his work. But DOTA2 is a carbon copy of DotA with better graphics, and better mathcmaking and cosmetics and other glitter.
But DOTA2 is free to play, more free than LoL its biggest rival.
Valve doesn't earn money on DOTA2 directly.
>>331425158
>>331425232
And who is going to press charges against Nintendo, exactly? "Well gee Nintendo seems as though you've illegally downloaded a ROM and sold it to people, looks like you're going to have to pay yourselves a fine!"
Retroism is selling Bubsy on Steam with emulator included.
>>331421581
I don't even care if they HAVE the game and downloaded the game. It's still fucking illegal.
>>331425183
you dropped your fedora buddy
pretty sure it's not illegal to download your own roms off the internet
>>331425013
>Thats how it always has been.
>You always buy licenses.
Get cancer corporate tool.
>>331425374
So you admit that what they're doing is illegal
>And who is going to press charges
It's almost as if Copyright law is a fucking joke
>Downloading roms
>Not tracking down a copy of the game to play it on the native console
all I see is a gibesmedat. you plebeians need to get the fuck out of my hobby
>>331425481
I am not a tool or supporting this.
I am only saying how it is.
You always bought licenses. The situation is the same everywhere.
>>331424947
How do 4chan archives exist?
>>331423024
It's not even lawyerism, there are a vocal albeit minority of drones who honestly genuinely believe that piracy is wrong because it's illegal in countries cucked by corporatocracy. >>331422676 >>331425013
Thank god piracy is legal where I live.
>>331425374
It is in japan. Why do you think porn of existing characters is available to buy there?
>>331425374
>All right Nintendo. It says here that you downloaded a copy of "Super Mario Bros" illegally. The owner for that game is copyrighted by Nintendo. So, Nintendo will have to pay Nintendo 35,000$ by the end of this year. Case dismiss.
So is this true or what?
>>331425581
In domains where copywright isn't well enforced.
Actually I'm sure there are archives on US based servers but copywright goons sure as fuck don't know about it
>>331424508
That won't happen, it's literally a dystopian vision of the future.
>>331425573
No.
Get cancer soulless husk.
>>331425478
It's as illegal as attempting suicide
Self-harm is a crime
>>331420626
>95-120 years
WHAT IN THE FUCKING FLYING HOLY MOTHER OF FUCKING SHIT?
>>331425478
>>331425523
>>331425218
See
>>331425079
If ROMS are illegal then the company downloading them is also violating the law.
>>331425714
It's only natural.
Once companies will be able to stream everything anywhere they will force it because it makes them more money.
And the customers will have no choice but to accept it.
>>331425632
Replace the first instance of 'Nintendo' with 'pirate' and it's equally as asinine.
>>331420634
>went googling for some shitty porn just to masturbate for 37th time this week
>standards
>>331425615
Where do you live?
South Italian here I've seen cops buying pirated movies in full uniform
>>331425573
Nope. First Sale Doctrine says I legally own my copy all my NES and SNES carts. Just not the IP.
>>331420125
That sure looks like a TASTY bowl of flour!
>>331425806
But there's an opening for other companies to offer non streamed software.
>>331425717
Most people get past covering their ears and screaming NO when they hear something they don't like when they're a toddler, anon. You're taking manchild to a new level.
>>331425232
That is not illegal where I live, get fucked.
>>331425714
You underestimate the power of those companies
>Windows 10 happens
>literally spyware that sells you out to the goverement and other companies
>even if you disable automatic updates on 7 and 8 it will wants to install itself on your PC
>if you do everything to stop it they still try by forcing every new GPU and CPU to work on 10 only so once you need to upgrade you will get forced to use Windows 10
The only alternative is staying behind and never using anything new after that point.
>>331425750
Some laws need to be repealed.
We have too many humans on Earth. We can't hunt them, and we forbid them to Sodoku. only thing left is shitty healthcare systems.
>>331425806
Or you can steal a license from a store, use a keygen, hack the servers etc.
>>331425523
>digital media should be limited by artificial scarity because reasons
Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked you stupid pleb
>>331421663
piracy =//= stealing
>>331419317
If that's true and Nintendo owns the rights to the rom, how is it illegal?
>>331420626
>95-120 years
And people act like there is nothing wrong with copyright laws.
>>331426002
>licenses
Won't exist.
Just like today you can't just steal a 10 dollar Steam wallet card in your post office - It won't work if its not going through the table first.
>hack the servers
Yeah. Get on it scriptkiddies.
>>331426004
>Ook ook ook gibe me da free shiet
>>331425960
He's right though. You're the one acting like a manchild insisting nobody owns the physical copies of games they bought.
Companies want royalties for each copy of something that is sold. That is a right.
But after a particular copy is sold, the consumer can (and should be able to) sale, rent, or dispose of their copy in any way they'd like. That is the consumer's right.
Computer software is given an exception by congress on certain aspects of the first sale doctrine. (Software for video game devices was exempted from that exception.)
Digital software and the legalese that goes with them have been treated differently by the courts than physical goods.
You are wrong. It's as simple as that.
>>331421839
On paper it's still breaking the law which is what everyone has to follow. You can come up with your own justification, but it's still breaking the law. I use emulators and don't think it's hurting the business of any of the big game corps, but I'm not gonna say it's not against the law.
>>331426004
This
Imagine if you could make infinite copies of medicine and save but copyrights sto-
Oh wait, yeah people die because of this
>>331426119
>waaaaaah pirated copies are killing my collectors value on my collection of games waaaaaaaaaah
Suck my nuts kid.
>>331421341
>Whether you like it or not is irrelevant
The fuck? That's the opposite of how Democracy is supposed to work.
>>331425960
You are either payed to propagate lies about EULA cancer and DRM cancer or are too young and brainwashed so you propagate lies about EULA cancer and DRM cancer.
I do not care which one is it, you are a cancerous tool, pointed against basic human rights and freedoms.
Get cancer and die in pain.
>>331424043
There's not much reason to doubt it. For NES games, the circuit board layout is actually important and that information can't be derived from the ROM itself. This is why headers needed to be created. Why would Nintendo bother creating their own format for the exact same small amount of information? That's basically anathema to a programmer's mindset. The existence of this header also doesn't mean they literally downloaded the rom. Simply following the header format will result in an identical file. There are also 3rd party tools that can scan the raw ROM data, and affix the proper header, which again results in the same file. The existence of the header doesn't actually give you any information regarding where the file came from, only that Nintendo decided to re-use the most popular header format.
A similar issues happens in say, in how most SNES emulators just straight up contain the SNES BIOS. The SNES BIOS is so small, and is literally just a list of instructions priming the sound processor at startup, that it would be basically impossible to copyright. You could go out of your way to rewrite the file a little bit to be cosmetically different, but there's only so much you can do to hide re-using raw information that the system must have in order to work.
>>331426128
>Companies want royalties on every copy sold
I'm not selling, I'm sharing for free
>>331424508
>everything will get streamed
No, everything commercially rented out to you might get streamed, but the same autists that make linux distros and free software in general will still release shit as downloadable.
>>331419317
Frank hardly has a leg to stand on since he's responsible for Mega Man Legacy Collection and that's literally just 6 roms and an emulator.
>some guy buys all the limited physical copies
>''ha ,get fucked i will sell those 100 bucks each and make a fortune''
>publisher decides to offer the game digital via e-store
>''Noooooooooo, how can they do that? Don't support that! Just pirate it!''
