I honestly don't understand the love for JRPGs. Everyone says how great the stories are when they're literally the same anime shit over again and the gameplay is a mixture of menu simulator, elemental rock-paper-scissors, and cycling through attack, potion, and the occasional antidote.
There is no story in Souls games or any Japanese game, they just mask simplistic content with grandiose (to them) phrasings.
>Behold the glyph of Asperger for it foretells the eclipse of your archetype
Seriosly, they even call their games with nonsensical names like Nier Gestalt when it's just skinner box grinding simulator.
Ooh, gestalt.
>>330697596
>grandiose (to them)
pretty much. Asians can't into art and stories because they don't have anything similar to western enlightenment, thanks in part judeo-christian religion and the renaissance. Their Confucius and Mao doctrines only allow for them to be good at more technical things, which is why they're so good at math.
Thats because people have different opinions to you m8.
Who would have thought!
>>330698273
>le different onions meme
>>330697341
I've never liked Final Fantasies. It's lot like reading the newspapers. You know how to turn the pages, but you have no idea what they're talking about.
I hope to Christ you're not implying western RPGs tell good stories either.
Here's the sad truth: All video game stories are stupid bullshit.
>>330697341
>I honestly don't understand the love for something
You might be autistic, as the ability to understand different viewpoints is something you learn with 10 fucking years.
>>330697341
Anime is not an adjective.
>>330699903
>I don't understand newspapers
Kill yourself
>>330697341
JRPG just means RPG from Japan, it's not a specific type of RPG.
CRPG, ARPG, SRPG, etc, those are specific types of RPG, and any of those from Japan are JRPGs.
>>330697941
>Poetry is shit in Asian culture
okeh dokeh.
>>330700224
i cracked up at this comment lol thanks
picturing someone angrily typing this with tears in their eyes defending japanese video games
>>330697341
if you understood the love, then you'd love jrpgs too. and we wouldn't be having this thread.
>>330697341
So what games do you play
tell me so I can break the genre down into a simplistic analysis and tell you how shitty it is like a pessimistic little cunt
>>330697341
>>330697941
nice bait.
>>330701905
age of empires 2
>>330701905
I like cowadoody :^)
>>330699903
>It's lot like reading the newspapers
>you have no idea what they're talking about.
Are you retarded by any chance?
>>330702168
>>330699903
You should have gone with a food analogy, son.
You just burned yourself.
>>330701065
JRPG is a genre. Usually is story-driven, features a menu-based combat in the style of Pokemon or Final Fantasy, features random encounters, and usually music that is regarded as pretty good
These are staples of the series, and these games differ heavily from Western RPGs. A WRPG typically features a player-created character who rolls his ability points, an open world to explore with many quests and several optional paths to complete many of the quests, an alignment system
True, many RPGs come out of Japan and don't follow the typical JRPG formula. But to say JRPG isn't a genre is ridiculous. It is a genre. When you say JRPG, everyone knows what you're talking about
>>330702447
>>330701905
OP here. Here are some of my favorite games
Doom
SSX Tricky
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
Rome: Total War
Age of Mythology
Warcraft 3
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
>>330702447
>JRPG is a genre.
No it isn't, no it fucking isn't
JRPG is just a descriptor that it's an RPG from Japan, it is not it's own genre.
ARPG is a genre, SRPG is a genre, CRPG is a genre, etc, any kind of RPG from Japan is a JRPG, period.
>>330702603
>>330700150
pretty much. the only exceptions are the ones that a shit "games"..ie heavy rain
>>330702447
>eatures a player-created character who rolls his ability points, an open world to explore with many quests and several optional paths to complete many of the quests, an alignment system
You just described SMT.
>>330702614
Where do turn-based RPGs like Pokemon and FF7 fall into that list? Strategy?
>>330702756
Not him, but SSX Tricky, THPS2, and 3rd Strike are fucking great, and Doom was really fun for its time.
>>330702980
CRPG
>>330702614
>JRPG is just a descriptor that it's an RPG from Japan, it is not it's own genre.
So why isn't there PRPG for RPGs from Poland or CRPG for Canadian RPG
I'll tell you why, because they don't have a unique style of their own. They get regarded as Western RPGs, as they are.
Why the double standard when it comes to Japan? Are you sure you're not just arguing for the sake of arguing? That's what it looks like.
>>330702447
No, a JRPG is an RPG that was made in Japan. That's literally it.
Pokemon, Final Fantasy, Fire Emblem, Shin Megami Tensei/Persona, Mario & Luigi, etc. are all very different from each other, but they're all JRPGs.
>>330703065
>Why the double standard when it comes to Japan?
people are stupid that's all
>>330702796
SMT is probably what you would call a dungeon crawler, and dungeon crawlers are really more based in Western RPG
I guess you would call it something of a hybrid. The demon fusion stuff is very Japanese, but it's got some obvious western influence
>>330703065
Because Poland and Canada are both western countries.
Therefore, an RPG made in those countries is a WRPG.
>>330703065
Because the same fucking reason people call Japanese rock J-rock instead of just rock, even though it is just rock music from Japan.
Anything RPG from western countries are WRPGs, any RPG from Japan is a JRPG, that is how it always has been.
>>330700150
>>330702759
Ghost Trick is a japanese game and it had a very good story
You can't just say all game have shit sotries without having played them all
>>330703586
>and it had a very good story
DUDE PLOT TWISTS LMAO
>>330699903
underrated memepost
>>330703309
all jrpgs are based on western formulas since dragon quest used wizardry and ultima as a base and all subsequent jrpgs used dragon quest as a source of inspiration so they all share western rpg formulas
>>330703656
Some plot twists are good, some aren't. What's your point?
I wish Japan made more action RPGs like Souls, Nier, Mass Effect, Deus Ex HR, Fable, and even Skyrim and Dragon's Dogma. 66% of my favorite games of all time are made in Japan, but I hate turn based RPGs, and most JRPG combat systems. FFXIII-2 is a really cool game, but it'd be significantly more fun if you actually fought the enemies in the world, instead of teleporting into a turn-based style arena battle with selective enemies. I'm excited for Nioh, FFXV, and Nier Automata for this reason.
>>330703329
but why are you CALLING it a WRPG if that's not a genre to you?
They would just all be RPGs. There's a reason people make the distinction, and it's not just about where the game is developed. You don't see people putting the J or W tag in front of action games, or racing games, etc. It refers to specific style of a RPG, and not just to the place they made it. A JRPG could be made in the west. Child of Light and South Park: Stick of Truth are examples of this. It's a whole style of game. It's shocking that there are people on /v/ who don't even know about this
>>330703656
DUDE INTRO LMAO
DUDE CLIMAX LMAO
not liking JRPGs means a lot of the same things as not liking NGE's TV ending
as in it means you're a retard lowest possible tier plebeian who will never develop good taste because your taste is irredeemably, inherently shit
>>330704047
>not just to the place they made it. A JRPG could be made in the west.
Wow fuck you
>>330702759
>heavy rain
>good story
lol are you fucking serious?
That's why I prefer DRPGs. The combat and levelling is a lot more refined in those games and there aren't hours of cutscenes.
>>330704047
Because it's an RPG from the west.
CRPG, ARPG, SRPG etc from western countries are WRPGs
CRPG, ARPG, SRPG etc from Japan are JRPGs
>>330704013
try custom robo it has a really unique action based combat system
OH MAN DID YOU SEE THAT NEW PERSONA GAME I CANT WAIT TO CAST FIRE ON ENEMIES WEAK TO FIRE AGAIN AND CAST ICE ON ENEMIES WEAK TO ICE AGAIN AND CAST LIGHTNING ON ENEMIES WEAK TO LIGHTNING AGAIN
>>330703065
>>330703329
>poland
>western
nice thread retards
if you're going to argue about semantics you should start by clarifying whether W stands for western or white
>>330704194
>spending your sunday arguing about the definition of JRPG on /v/
Do you realize what a pathetic faggot you are?
>>330704461
Poland is a European country, so yes, it is Western.
>>330704463
Not as pathetic as you, cuck.
>>330704461
Western RPG actually means all countries except for Japan, which get their own special letter
Russia's RPG's are WRPG's, and so are Chinese RPG's, Korean RPG's
>>330704461
>Whitest country in Europe
>"hurr durr it's not western!"
Eat a dick
>>330704461
Is this the American education system at work?
>>330703309
True.
But then again, you could say that the entire RPG genre is a digital and automated version of the western tabletop role playing games.
>>330704013
Have you tried any tactical turn based games like X-COM, Silent Storm, JA2, etc?>>330704047
>>330704013
Play Raidou Kuzonoha 2.
You'll probably have a blast with it.
>>330704640
2/10 make better bait
>>330705053
>But then again, you could say that the entire RPG genre is a digital and automated version of the western tabletop role playing games.
Of course.
but it split off into something that has an identity of it's own, similar to the way rock music evolved from blues
>>330703586
>le time traveling dog game
>good story
The best WRPG I ever played (Demon Souls) is made in japan, the whole W & J before RPG is just stupid.
>>330706354
>WRPG I ever played (Demon Souls) is made in japan
>Demon Souls
>WRPG
Strong bait
>>330702759
Heavy Rain is so fucking bad. Watching the protagonist interact with his family at the start made me feel like I was witnessing a handful of amateur dramatics club members ad lib their way through a home-life scene. It makes you wonder if David Cage has any actual experience of real world interpersonal relationships. I'm talking Tommy Wiseau levels of detachment here. I am genuinely afraid that he may have am undiagnosed case of autism. As far as I'm concerned, anybody who praises any facet of this game exposes themselves as an irredeemable pleb and the fact that it received any critical acclaim whatsoever is saddening proof of how low the bar is set for video games as a story telling medium.
>>330706851
I'm more disturbed by the awkward sex scenes.
>>330697341
>WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT SWEET FLOWER GIRL
>>330705250
Thanks, I'll try it out in PCSX2
>>330704427
I've actually been meaning to play through this again. Beat it twice as a kid and haven't played it since. I'll download it.
>>330705140
I've played Future Tactics and Valkyria Chronicles. Future Tactics is fun, and I like the on-foot portions of VC, but I don't like tanks and shit. XCOM2 looks like something I'd enjoy though.
>>330706831
He obviously means WRPG as in a Western-style open world-ish action RPG with character creation. No need to get so nitpicky about the semantics that you literally call people out for baiting even though you obviously know what they meant.
