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How is it possible to have such mind-blowingly good mechanics
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How is it possible to have such mind-blowingly good mechanics but such a jarringly disappointing game?

Mother of god, it still hurts...
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>>330244004
Standing
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>>330244204
On
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>>330244004
>Mother of god
Fuck off
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>>330244004
Biggest waste of an engine.
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>>330244004
>it still hurts

You do realize that's why the game is called "phantom pain" right?
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>>330244392
this is bullshit and you know it
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>>330244392
rationalizing like a true kojimadrone
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>>330244392
Yes, but i still understand why would I want to play a game that makes me feel pain

jesus christ i want to enjoy games
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Hey OP.
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>Best beginning to a MGS game
>Worst ending
>mediocre middle

Can we all agree with this?
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>>330244204
here
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I liked it but the story was garbage, but I'm not sure if it was worse than 4's story.
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>>330244392
>le phantom pain meme
fuck off
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Play the first five missions and you've played the entire game.
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>>330245107
4 at least had Snake and Ocelot fighting ontop of Arsenal Gear as its final boss.

And as disappointing as the B&B were, at least Laughing Octopus and Crying Wolf were good fights (and a hundred times better than any of 5's 'boss fights').
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>>330245107
No, it wasn't. MGS4 raped all the previous games and made Big Boss a pussy. Also a bad joke became a serious character, half of the game was fanservice and some of the bosses were worse than The Skulls which is fucking unacceptable
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MGSV was barely a MGS game. It would've been better if it had been a splinter cell game.
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we just wanted more of what ground zero was.

was that so hard?
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>>330245131
First five missions and the last one + watch Kingdom of the Flies and you know everything you need.
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>>330245335
I don't understand how hard it can be to make a game about a guy codenamed Snake infiltrating some military base with cringy jokes, some simple metaplot and a shit ton of exposition in dialogue.

That's everything MGS ever needed to be. No 'portable gaming', no 'build your own army', no 'open world'.
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>>330244004
All i can think about is a smug frog smile under the scarf.
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People are bitching about this game? I'm nearing the end I think, still having fun. It's a straight up action/stealth RPG. The only thing about it that I don't like. Is having to go back to my base to take a shower, and enduring the load times thereof.
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>>330245531
i haven't played a mgs game since 1 and 2 and when ground zero was free on psn i had a blast.

preparing myself for phantom pain. i actually felt like i had to fuckin stealth

phantom pain was just obnoxious and way too easy.

mgo console release was an unbalanced mess and by the time they fixed it i moved on already.
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>>330245710
>RPG
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>>330245808
Metal Gear Solid has always been an RPG series. MGSV blatantly so. Are you disagreeing?
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>>330245710
>>330245920
dont reply to this shit troll
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>>330244996
Thats Konami for you.
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I will never be hyped for another game.
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>>330244004
Because the point of the entire story flies past by most people's heads, both haters and hardcore autistic Kojidrones alike.

Skull Face was right, and war is an endless chain of retaliation most can't simply leave behind. There's no end to it, only endless pain and suffering, and a chain that goes on and on until the end of our history. The game ends abruptly because there's no end to war, and there's no resolution to the lives of people drawn into it until a pathetic and equally unrewarding death comes to them.

It's a theme of unfulfilling revenge and its aftermath, and people in it who never find peace. Miller's speech when chapter 2 begins about never forgetting the feeling of holding a gun and being drawn back yet again to war basically summarizes the entire chapter. The replay missions drive a point forward, even if they're not necessary to "finishing" the game at all. You want more, but there's nothing left other than an empty, devoid phantom pain and everything surrounding you goes to shit, even arguably Venom's mental sanity. War becomes routine, and perhaps the only place you belong in. It's a pretty okay way of justifying the endgame through plot, if nothing else.
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>>330244392
>if the game makes me feel like the title sort of implies that makes it deep
This is literally the most retarded defense of this game.
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>>330246182
I'm not trolling, you're just too dense to realize MGSV was an action RPG.
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I love the game 2bh. It's very fun.
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>>330246779
how are you so stupid that you thought I was defending the game?
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>>330245808
MGSV is the best JRPG of the last decade.
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>>330245237
I would rate for as probably one the last and best actual video games. No a days it's all about open world and being realistic, there are no more health packs or power ups disguised as noodles lol mgs4 was the last of a generation of a dying breed of video games
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MGSV is a lot of fun and I'm glad retarded faggots like you who loved MGS 4's rape of the franchise both gameplay and story-wise are the ones crying about this game.

Keep hurting forever, faggots. I'll keep playing MGS V, a legitimately good game.
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>>330247918
>terrible AI
>good
Deluded Kojidrone. Game is shit and lacks lot of the polish other MGS games have. Story aside.
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MGS4 was a fucking movie
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>>330244392
There has to be something there originally to feel phantom pain. we didn't have a game taken away from us, we were just a shit sandwich in place of one.
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>>330248012
How can I be a Kojidrone if I was one of the many people in /v/ shitting all over MGS 4 and having to defend the old guard from faggots like you who were trying to defend MGS 4's bullshit because "MUH NOSTALGIA"?

Kojima actually fucking delivered with a fun game, and you fags that were crying of joy over the "epicness" that was the retarded shit in MGS 4 are now the ones crying of pain because MGS V is an actual video game instead of MGS 4: 1980 edition.

Keep feeling that pain, fags. The series ended with an excellent last hurrah for those of us that enjoyed the gameplay of these games, and a rightful middle finger to faggots like you who applauded the franchise when it started appealing to the lowest common denominator.
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>>330248012
The game is actually pretty polished, all things considered. The only thing that fucks up somewhat is the guard AI, but even that is somewhat rare. The game is also far more ambitious than any other MGS game before it, and only 3 somewhat comes close to the amount of variety in workable strategies.
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>>330248412
mgs 4 is shit and so is 5

and so is your taste
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