>''That’s a stupid idea, Sony doesn’t know how to make hardware. They don’t know how to make software either'' - Sega 1991
Hardware part was right
Sony's systems have been shit since PS3
Atleast Sega was based at making systems, every one of them had something good or revolutionary about them
>>330053668
>'That’s a stupid idea, Sony doesn’t know how to make hardware
This can't possibly be real
dumb frogposter
>>330053896
It's real
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_(console)
>After the collapse of the joint-Nintendo project, Sony briefly considered allying itself with Sega to produce a stand-alone console. The Sega CEO at the time, Tom Kalinske, took the proposal to Sega's Board of Directors in Tokyo, who promptly vetoed the idea. Kalinske, in a 2013 interview recalled them saying "that’s a stupid idea, Sony doesn't know how to make hardware. They don’t know how to make software either. Why would we want to do this?".[23]
>>330053859
Sony and Sega have one thing in common,they are shit at supporting their hardware.
>>330053668
>mfw /r9k/ takes over /v/
Stupid frogposter.
>>330053859
>you need to reinvent the wheel every time
This line of thought is exactly why the Wii U failed and the PS4 succeeded.
You don't need to change the game every generation.
>>330053668
>They don’t know how to make software either
Well, Sega wasn't wrong.
>>330054128
Not saying they needed to, I'm just saying they did
And each time it worked out neatly
>>330053668
>SEGA continues to cock suck Sony now
Kek
>>330054128
This, nobody likes gimmicks for consoles or handhelds unless it's cheap.
>>330054089
>Sony
>shit at supporting their hardware
The fucking PS2 was still getting new games up until two years ago. The PS3 is still going strong a decade later.
If there's one thing Sony isn't shit at, it's supporting their consoleshandhelds not included.
>>330054294
I meant with games they themselves developed,the only gen Sony did have a lot of good IPs was the fifth,for Sega it was the 4th.
>>330054294
>sony makes those games
could you please not
>>330053668
Well, the hardware part was right. The PSX was arguable the weakest console of the gen. The PS2 was by far the weakest of its gen. The PS3 was a clusterfuck to develop for, and ultimately the 360 had better looking multiplats, and exclusives. Outside of the godly Japan studios, Sony doesn't do software, all of their big IPs are done by third and second parties like Insomniac and Naughty Dog.
So they weren't wrong. Though Sony still has done well and got great games on their systems.
>>330054534
>all of their big IPs are done by third and second parties like Insomniac and Naughty Dog
Naughty Dog has been first party since 2001.
>>330054517
>>330054432
Sony still has to give those companies the go ahead to make and release on their closed platforms.
If they wanted to kill their old consoles, they'd deny them any new games whatsoever and force the devs to work on the latest console.
Consoles aren't like PC where anyone can make and publish anything.
You have to get permission to release on their platforms.
For instance, when was the last Xbox game? GameCube game? Not first party game, but any game whatsoever.
Sony might shift first party development when new consoles come out, but they allow third parties to continue making games for a long time.
>>330055472
I think you are confusing allowing with not stopping
could you really not
>>330055978
No, fuck off.
The anon said Sony are shit at supporting their consoles, when they allowed devs to develop games for the PS2 until 2013.
Contrast that with the Xbox's last game being released in 2008 and the GameCube's last game being released in 2007.
Their closed platforms, everything has to go through their respective companies, and Sony was giving games to the PS2 up until a little over two years ago.
Fuck off.
>>330054534
gran turismo, ico, shadow of the colleseus, wipeout, bloodborne, gravity rush, socom, ape quest
etc
>>330056609
>ape quest
>an Ape Escape X Dragon Quest game
Muh dick
>>330054198
So why did they lose?
>>330055472
>Sony still has to give those companies the go ahead to make and release on their closed platforms.
Which includes this, released in 2009. They gave the "go ahead" for games like these, well after the PS3's release. That's not so much still showing support as it is not having quality control. Most of the games Sony did actually publish on the PS2 post-PS3 ended up being Buzz!, SingStar, EA sports games, regional-exclusives, or very late localizations to games pre-PS3 like Rogue Squadron. They didn't force the developers to make games just for the PS3 and include watered-down PS2 ports so they can make a quick buck off of poor families. That's not so much being based as it is being a smart business tactic, like all the butchered handheld ports of games being released on home consoles at the same time.
>>330056851
Internal conflict leading to inconsistent independent strategies that failed to gain ground in most markets. (Saturn only really succeeded in Japan, and while the Sega CD did OK in the west, the 32x was dead on launch and pretty much irrelevant).
The Dreamcast did pretty well. Just not good enough to fix the damage already done. 3rd parties had mostly bailed, consumers flocked to the PS2 when it came out.
>>330056609
>colleseus
>ape quest
