I've been playing through this game lately, and Jesus Christ, the prologue was just the most un entertaining, slow, utter piece of dog shit that's ever and out of a Mario game
And the Peach segment sure didn't help
Chapter 1 was a complete bust with the only good thing coming out of it being he Koopa Bros.
And Chapter 2 was utter hell with the slow pace and incessant backtracking inside the ruins
Honestly, when does this game get good?
Immediately.
When you stop nitpicking things that don't actually cut the fun.
Also, when you stop being a complaining bitch.
>>329905779
when you first get to toad town
>>329905779
Nintendo shill detected trying to downplay the original Paper Mario so you can validate the shittyness of your Sticker Star dumbed down rehash.
When you play it when you were 12
>>329905779
You sound like a 16 year old who's trying to express an opinion but is unable to and just lists harsh insults to make up for it.
Chapter 1. The prologue is pretty terrible and the Goomba Village is uninteresting, I'll agree on that.
Aside from some standout content like Bow's Mansion and Tubba Blubba, Shy Guy's Toybox, and the Yoshi Island, 1 is generally inferior to 2 because they weren't sure how far they wanted to push the envelope yet. A lot of areas are creatively "safe" like the Goomba Town or drag out like the desert. TTYD pretty much went "fuck that" and just did what it felt like.
>Alpha Dream makes the exact same over and over, generally changes things up and makes it hard to really name a "best" entry since they all have different focuses but a satisfying core gameplay system.
>Intelligent Systems copies Alpha Dream's first attempt back when they were still at Square, refine that and add their own flare to it, but then get stumped in how to keep it fresh and just make progressively worse decisions.
Shit like this is fascinating.
Ultimate comfy game
>>329907181
Giant battles are a bit annoying.
I'm genuinely surprised that someone wouldn't like the original Paper Mario game.
>>329906926
On the contrary, TTYD was padded to hell and back and has its own fair share of moments where shit just drags on.
>>329906926
Explain. Things like the drug quest and the pianta mafia in TTYD was pretty interesting but it didn't change the fact that chapter 7 was backtrack city for general white
PAPER MARIO IS DEAD, DEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-cdNgezswM
>>329907259
Alpha Dream sure isn't perfect, and they probably did best on their second try (SSS) just like IS, but they're smart enough to keep what works.
It's still a shame that they've done stupid things like turning attacks that coordinate with overworld abilities into items, creating exposition fairies like Stuffwell and Starlow instead of actually writing out situations with NPCs and pantomime, and forcing weird gimmicks like Giant Fights, but at least their games are still fun.
>>329905779
Honestly I just quickly checked a map for the desert, but I thought the temple itself was really fun.
And looking for a mysterious character in the eastern city was very old-school adventure like, pretty memorable.
I played it for the frist time last year by the way.
>>329907341
>>329907503
>Talking about pacing
Bitch did I SAY it had better pacing?
I'm saying it was more engaging because they didn't tepidly pull punches. EVERY area was something unique and memorable, for better or for worse, and was more directed. When TTYD gets annoying it's because it's either shoving a lame gimmick or directly making you backtrack, rather than just having absurdly large areas like the desert or getting the flowers to face Huff n Puff.
If anything TTYD has more annoying parts to replay, but the difference is that it makes a stronger impression and rarely has areas that are big for their own sake.
You posted that yesterday.
Chapter five. Sadly, it gets back to being shit at Chapter six.
>>329908892
>Not liking chapter 3 and 7
I'll give you that 4 and 6 are the weaker.
>>329909293
>4
>Not the peak of the game
Your taste is almost as bad as theirs.
>>329909293
>not liking Shy Guy's Toy Box
Just play this instead. It's got way more memorable moments and characters
>>329909512
>Squaresoft
No.
>>329909453
>>329909486
Eh, The setting gets boring a little too fast and the new character is not that fun to use at first (he gets better though).
it does have some pretty good fights though.
>>329909765
>shitting on Square when they were in their prime
>>329909917
>he
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>329909453
>>329909486
The toy box was utterly boring and annoying having to find the items you need to progress.
>>329909453
>4
>peak of the game
>when chapter 7 exists
no
>>329907604
>that ending
Every time
>>329909917
>>329910019
I always felt like the shy guys made up for the rest of the chapter, you can really see IS put more personality into them than some of the main characters
>>329910029
>chapter 7
>peak of the game
>game has 8 chapters
What
>>329905779
I replayed it a few months back and agree. Peach sucks the fun out of both PM and TTYD. The intro to PM worked the first time all those years ago because this was entirely new. It has lost all relevance and fun factor over time.
The first chapter I was just kinda rushing through and the second turned me off with the backtracking too. Halfway through 3 I just gave up.
TTYD has some serious pacing issues too (seriously, fuck Peach segments) but is nowhere near as bad as the start of PM. Even SPM has an intro that feels relevant to the story even if it is way too long.
Now I'm bummed out about Paper Mario: People of Color again.
>>329910493
There's only been one good peach X segment in the entirety of the Paper Mario series,
Paper Mario 64: Chapter 6
>>329910180
>Cute garble noises
>Quirky eccentric movements
> Dress up in many outfits
How is Minion lite a personality?
>>329910629
>peach X
This is not some cheap sonic cartoon, anon
>>329910629
>Paper Mario 64: Chapter 6
Whoa was that cooking section one?
Because fuck that one.
>>329910662
Go replay Chapter 4
And check out the shy guys
Specifically, the ones in Toad Town
Anti Guy
Gourmet Guy
And General Guy
Then come back, and tell me they aren't more lively than the god damn partners you run the entire game with
>>329910724
My autism leaked, I always call the segments Peach X segments for whatever reason, sorry anon
>>329910887
Nah, chapter 6 is the one where you get to go sneaking around the castle transforming into gaurds and shit
>>329910887
Post Chapter 4's Peach interlude was the cooking one. I fucking hated that one also. Chapter 6's was when she was transforming into other enemies to walk around.
>>329910256
8 is good, but 7 is GOAT.
>murder mystery
>good tunes
>fun puzzles
>cool ice castle
>good boss
whats not to like?
>>329911047
>>329911050
Ah shit my fault. That was an alright Peach mini section.
>>329911162
No, no, I love chapter 7 too, I just mean how can the peak of the game be at the end of it?
How does the N64 version compare to TTYD? Only played TTYD.
>>329911235
Peaks don't have to have downslides afterwards. What makes something a peak is that it's better than the rest of the game.
>>329910493
yeah, i always fucking hated the peach sections
every time you clear a chapter its pretty much "oh boy time to bore myself for however long with this shit"
>>329911360
Doesn't do a lot of crazy things like TTYD does when it comes to themes, but it's still a very solid game. I personally like it more.
>>329910907
>Little kids
>Gay
>Fatass
>Generic military guy
Wow thrilling
>>329911235
i figured "A Star Powered Showdown" is considered the final chapter, not 7.
>>329905779
Chapter 3
>>329906758
Took the words right out my mouth.
0/10, apply yourself
>>329911360
Well don't go in expecting something like TTYD tier chapters.
PM64 does kinda play it safe somewhat. But it's done good enough.
>>329911596
Eh, to all their own
>>329905779
>no post chapter bowser segments
IT'S SHIT
>>329910907
You forgot Dindu Guy.
is PM1 emulatable
False flag by nintendorks.
Move along.
>A baby sun joins your party
>Is barely developped
>There's a chapter that involves the sun
>No interaction with your partner
Did I miss something?
>>329913098
watt is a lil sparky not a sun
Am I the only one who actually liked the sequence breaks where you play Peach? Even the Bowser segments were fun at times.
I liked SPM more than TTYD, even though I played the latter first, because of the pretty interesting story and engagement with the environment. It's sad that this is kind of lacking in PM 64.
>>329907604
Yeah rip
>>329914424
I don't know, I didn't have a stopwatch for the cake baking segment so it was really hard for me as a kid, and most of the other Peach segments are just walking around. They're not very bad, and the PM64 ones I think actually evolve into something interesting, but overall they're weaker than the rest of the game.
>>329915136
Oh for sure they're weaker, but I really don't think they're a good example of bad pacing, unless you've got a shorter attention span than someone with literal ADHD.
