Why do we love this game again?
Did the current babby's first Zelda move over to TP finally?
Next gen will everyone's favorite be Skyward Sword?
>>329797120
We don't.
It's the worst 3D zelda console zelda.
It's literally OOTHD with a better sidekick and more to do. I don't know why anybody disliked it. I didn't have a problem with the wolf sections either.
>>329797120
We do?
>>329797284
Nah WW and SS are worse
>>329797284
I was told to hate MM, I'm confused...what do we hate /v/?
>>329797385
If you unironically think Wind Waker is worse than TP, your opinion does not matter.
>>329797475
/v/ hates everything. You don't actually PLAY these games, do you?
>>329797120
Best combat and best items.
It looked great on a Gamecube + CRT. It came out when bloom lighting was new to consoles (especially the just-release 360) and looked infamously bad on other games, but TP nailed it.
>>329797491
But it is. Wind Waker has the worst dungeons in the series.
>>329797561
Also best controls for 3D Zelda with the Wii version. Specifically the pointer controls and the nunchuck shake for the spin attack. Works like a dream. Skyward Sword controls were OK and did some fancy stuff but the gyros for aiming is much more sluggish.
>>329797716
That honor goes to Ocarina senpai
I 100% this game OP. It's pretty solid overall. Ball and chain is the best new weapon
The HD version is giving me a new appreciation for it. The dungeons are great and the art style is a bit better than I remember it being
>>329797847
Congratulations, you officially have the worst taste on all of /v/.
It's not a love or hate kinda thing.
The only thing to hate about it was the forced wolf sections.
>>329797120
This game was not a good Zelda. Story was promising but suddenly, it went bland once you finish the forest temple. Too easy. No content. A big disapointment that made me clearly understand Zelda would not target gamers anymore.
>ITT faggots who can't think for themselves
Holy shit, why are so many people on /v/ 3 steps away from being a hivemind? Think for yourselves, anon.
>being able to attack while running
>Links animations are the most nuanced and articulate they've ever been
>Fairies dont get used up if you have full health
>Link is toned as fuck
>Theres more than just Zelda and the bad guy in the game
It does so much well that simply wasnt carried over to SS for some reason
>>329798068
Ocarina dungeons are full of stupid bullshit backtracking. Fuck ocarina nostalgiafags. The only thing worse is the Temple of the Ocean King.
>>329797120
Because is the best. I got really sad at how SS turned out. I need another more mature Zelda.
>>329797491
>tons of cut content
>5 dungeons and dungeon bosses that suck ass
>side missions are forgettable
The only good parts were in Hyrule and Ganon's fortress
It's my favorite 3D Zelda game and I like the art style quite a bit. I also didn't mind the wolf sections like most did. Also Midna.
>>329797491
Wind Waker is the easiest and most content light in a series that's always been easy and content light. Absolutely bottom tier.
OOT = TP = WW > MM > SS
that's just my opinion, and I played the gamecube games before OOT and MM.
>>329798345
Anon, dungeons are meant to contain some degree of backtracking. It's part of dungeon exploration and navigation.
Anyway, I've already given you the worst taste on /v/ award. Expect your certificate in the mail.
>>329798441
>mature games for mature gamers
Literally the only difference in tone for most of the series is artstyle. If anything SS has a much more mature tone in terms of character development and plot.
>>329798735
There's a difference between exploration and "retread this entire section the exact same way"
Fuck off.
>>329797120
Zelda Cycle
After Hyrule Warriors, how would you guys feel about more Zelda crossovers? I'm thinking Zelda Souls.
>>329798912
Did you get the certificate yet?
I don't really understand how people can think any of the 3D Zelda games are better or worse than each other, they all have their pros and cons but none of them are truly excellent.
shouldnt have even been a zelda game. imagine if midna with all her cool powers was the playable character, and there were no link, zelda or ganon.
>>329797120
Clearly most people don't, but I do. I like the art style. It's edgy, but not Fedora's Mask levels of edgy. Like Linkin Park, Hot Topic wearing, scene teen in the early 2000s.
its shit. basically an easier OOT, with worse design and more filler
>>329799246
Nope, guess it wants to stay with its true owner. Have your mommy stick it on the fridge.
>>329798345
>Playing TP HD after playing the original only once back when it released.
>Forest temple is literally "Run back and forth between rooms" the level.
This first dungeon has more backtracking than almost all of OoT combined.
>>329799291
OoT is amazing, MM is almost as good. WW is fun but has its flaws. TP is literally a failed attempt at recreating of OoT. SS is just one giant gimmick.
How did they manage to make wolf link fight worse?
Spin is super sensitive now, hold the button slightly too long and you don't regular attack.
Game sometimes doesn't even register you pushed the button for regular attacks...
Something about the controls overall is really Janky now
>>329799173
I'm not sure about a Zelda/Souls crossover, but i would love to see a 3D Zelda take some inspiration for level and enemy design from the Souls games. Fighting the Iron Knuckle in the OOT spirit temple feels pretty damn Souls man.
>>329799478
Good one anon. Maybe there's still hope for your shit taste yet.
>>329799173
I would rather they team up with Koei again to make an Emblem Warriors, honestly. The series would work well with it. Assuming they rehash the time travel thing from HW, they could bring back old lords and characters too.
>>329799173
Just a HW 2 would be fine, really.
>>329797232
This.
It's the Zelda Cycle. Wind Waker is now becoming "too old" for babby's to remember playing on launch, like Majora and OoT. Pretty soon TP is going to hit that part too, especially considering most people who will buy the remake were probably 5-10 years old when it first released in 2006.
Same shit happens to Pokemon. Just one of those things. Skyward Sword will be the new "babbys first Zelda" in a couple years, and then (probably) something like Hyrule Warriors or Link Between Worlds.
>>329797120
The porn
>>329799904
>Zelda Cycle meme
I love all of the 3D Zeldas, I even enjoyed Skyward Sword for the most part. Cycle my ass.
>>329799678
OoS/OoA here. Except I've played and completed both multiple times.
>>329799969
not everyone obeys the cycle, but it's a general consensus of the fanbase that changes their mind on what zelda is their favorite every 5-6 years
>>329800101
TP has been my favorite since it came out. Some areas like the fishing area looked beautiful in the art style, and I liked everything it had to offer, really. Well, except the water dungeon but those usually suck.
Ive never played a zelda i didnt like
What is widely regarded as thenworst zelda? Dont say Skyward Sword thats too obvious
it's a lesser remake of OOT but with some lame wolf shit that no one likes tacked on
>>329800686
probably spirit tracks or something
>>329801014
What was wrong with spirit tracks? Never played it
>>329801014
Hey anon, if you ever need help with your retard medication, I can administer higher doses for you
Spirit Tracks was innovative and the best DS Zelda. Huge improvement over PH and the train system was really unique for the franchise. Best interactions between Link and Zelda, cute as fuck ghost animations, and some cool side characters.
>>329801169
Nothing. People just think it's bad because it's on the same engine as phantom hourglass
Because Nintendo finally listened to us and gave us the grimdark Zelda we wanted in the first place instead of the happy bright Wind Waker.
>>329797120
I don't really love it, but it has the best dungeons of any 3D zelda's I've ever played but I havent played Skyward Sword.
The problems with the game is that it feels kinda soulless, and it takes too long to really get going. It gets going during the first dungeon, but it takes FOREVER to get to that point. Probably over an hour on a casual playthrough.
>>329801297
And i never played that one either
Im assuming the engine is dogshit?
>>329798487
This. I begrudgingly hold Twilight Princess at a higher level than Wind Waker, because Wind Waker fails by default since it's blatantly incomplete. Even the dungeons that made it into the game feel like rough drafts.
Twilight Princess is boring, needlessly restrictive, handholey, etc. but at least it's a complete experience.
Skyward Sword is like Twilight Princess but takes all of its bad points and pushes them even further.
>>329801240
Both of the DS Zeldas were shit, football head Link adventures had terrible controls and were boring as hell.
>>329799678
>Majora's Mask.
>I'm a masochist who enjoys torturing myself with pointless time limits.
All of these make the writer of this sound like a unforgivable faggot, but this one just makes him sound incredibly nooby and butthurt.
>>329798252
Apply yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJdA7dwx6-4
Can we all at least agree that the Twilight Princess OST is GOAT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nq-gEG-E04
>>329797120
Becuse is not moe cartoon shit unlike WW
Reviewers BTFOing Twilight Princess, feels good man.
Twilight Princess is when Zelda went from an innovative and trendsetting series (OoT, MM, WW) to formulaic uninspired mediocrity, ultimately resulting in Zelda WiiU which is now just copying Western games to get the Skyrim audience
>>329805220
Why did you lump WW in with the innovative and trendsetting games?
>>329805640
WW might be flawed but it was clearly an original vision, not fan pandering/copying other games. It even still has outright clones to this day like Rime and Oceanhorn
>>329797120
>>329805836
I must have forgotten the other zelda games where you turn into a fucking wolf
>>329805927
twilight realm/wolf mode is nearly irrelevant after the first quarter of the game
>>329806168
>I-IT DOESN'T C-COUNT
By your logic the sea becomes irrelevant once you can teleport
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>>32980583
>WW
>Original
>>329797120
Because the rest of the world doesn't.
>>329797120
We don't. It has garbage pacing with some small bursts of good dungeon design. Spend 40 hours trudging along to forgettable trash so you can enjoy 10 minutes of game
>>329798487
Let's be fair here, TP's bosses are pretty awful too. They're not Link's Awakening boss bad, but there's only one that's remotely memorable for being good and that was only for the spectacle.
>>329806382
I wish, the warps really don't stop you from needing to sail everywhere. Sailing is a big part of the game from start to finish, while the wolf runs out of relevant materal before the game's first act even ends.
>>329806739
>that artstyle
Jesus chist that's why WW looks so terrible generic
How do they fuck up these games in 3D so hard after OOT and MM? Those games had something in every nook and cranny of the game world making exploration very rewarding. The dungeon designs were great, too. How does every 3D Zelda after these fuck these two up so hard? There's too much barren not important land, dungeons/quests range from incomplete (WW) to lots of annoying backtracking (SS/WW) to not being all that unique from one another. Look at Mario, when Galaxy came out it took everything offered by Mario 64 and the platformers afterward to the next level. 3D Zeldas on the other hand feel regressive after the N64.
![attachment[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7A2qe6P.jpg "attachment[1].jpg")
>>329807658
You got it. Art wise it just uses existing anime, and event wise it just copy pastes everything it can from OoT.
Wind Waker is the exact opposite of original.
>>329807716
They're too focused on trying to make every new Zelda game OoT 2 (with a few exceptions) instead of just trying to make a good game
>>329799678
I feel like there's a game missing from here that's supposed to imply which one is the best. But all of these statements are retarded as hell. the MM time limit isn't even bad, you can slow it down to a very slow speed.
>>329807716
Galaxy didn't take everything offered by 64 and bring it to the next level. It went in a new direction. That's not a bad thing, but it isn't what you're describing. There was no straight up movement, more of a diagonal or a lateral.
>>329808065
It's just supposed to point out that fighting over which Zelda is the best is stupid.
>>329797491
>muh artstyle
>>329807763
I liked the sailing
>event wise it just copy pastes everything it can from OoT.
I'd say it's more original than OoT which was basically Alttp 3D
>>329808067
Of course there wasn't as much vertical stuff. It didn't disappear, but it had to make room for the new dimension of movement the games offered.
>>329807716
Better processing and power meant they could build bigger worlds. As everything increased in scale but the content remained the same
So in OoT and MM especially they are fitting a hell of a lot of content in a very small space.
>>329808416
If OoT is Alttp 3D then WW is OoT on a boat.
>>329808685
A very modern day Bethesda approach to world building, no? Larger game maps with no real point to it other than because it's possible
>>329808891
It's what's worrying about Zelda U
Although if they can pull it off right like a 3D Zelda NES then it could work great
>>329797120
cause its dark edgelord zelda, sorta like majoras mask, another game that everyone seems to love. never really been a fan of the series myself, so dont hold me to that.
>Looking forward to Nintendo World Championships 2016.
>>329808416
the only thing oot shares in common with alttp is the setup for the sages. beyond that they arent the same game at all.
>>329799772
It can just be an outrealm, can't it?
I thought the whole point of the outrealms is that everything is canon there.
>>329810475
What do you mean, you get 3 plot coupons, find the master sword, everything changes, then you need to find another set of 7 plot coupons to fight Ganon.
>>329797120
We're insecure dudebro homophobes whose masculinity is threatened by the artistry of Wind Waker and will take an inferior cash-in game to get our GRIMDARK.
>>329800101
No one really changes their mind, it's just newer fans. Sad thing about Zelda is that its fanbase doesn't seem to be made up of fans of the franchise, just fans of singular games, and if the other games aren't enough like their favorite, they hate it.
>>329797120
Fuck you.
