I really like SMT games, but this one is exceedingly grindy, annoying, and just badly designed.
Why didn't they at least try to remake it? It has a great premise, but everything is so poorly executed and requires fucking currency grinding just to walk steps with demons out.
Should I bother giving Strange Journey a shot?
How grindy are we talking? Mem Aleph grindy?
sounds like persona is more your style
>>329534461
How far did you get? Once you get a little further you should never run out of magnetite unless you're running from random encounters.
which SMT game should I play if i've never played any of them before
>>329534668
Nocturne for PS2 or IV for 3DS.
If you mean any megaten game that isn't Persona, I'd also recommend Digital Devil Saga for PS2 to newcomers.
>>329534602
Grinding to walk grindy, the the point summoning demons lowers your ability to sustain them.
>>329534668
IV is a great starting point. It's also always on sale on the eShop.
>>329534461
Play SJ and come back, SJ is pretty much standard SMT fare but more gameplay focused and with some pretty well designed dungeons
Although understand that the whole game is just dungeons ala EO
But it does have thebest storyand mostatmosphereout of all the SMT gamesimo
>>329534634
Museum, and being destroyed by most demons in the chess area.
>>329534606
Shut the fuck up.
>>329534668
Many people who are fans today started with Nocturne. If you've literally never played one before then start with SMT4. If you enjoy it, there's plenty to check out after.
>I literally have no idea how to use armor
Make like Snappy and kill yourself.
>>329534778
Just don't keep your party full of demons unless you really need it
Negotiate with dark demons for MAG
>>329534894
>mfw I looked up how to kill Snappy after punching him to death over like 15 minutes
>>329534836
SJ did a very good job of making everything feel like it's going from bad to worse. The difficulty curve doesn't let up either.
>Soul Hackers
>grindy
Did we play the same game?
>>329534778
You're not supposed to always have a whole party of demons, 1 or 2 will be fine until bosses.
>>329534668
IV is a good place to start simply because it's a bit easier than the other SMT games, and stuff like demon fusion is simpler and less restrictive
>>329534894
>implying im not wearing the best armor at this point in the story
Okay.
>>329534919
So basically, continue to grind random encounters for Mag every time I need to fuze of clear a larger dungeon? Seriously, this game is so unappealing on so many level.
The visuals, the overworld, the story is slow as fuck, im just losing motivation altogether.
>>329534836
Yup, will do. SJ has no magnatite currency right?
Thanks lads I gotta couple days off this week i'll try IV
>>329535102
Correct. They ditched the magnetite system a long time ago.
>>329535040
I have 2 demons out.
>>329535102
Correct.
>>329535164
>>329535170
I already ordered it. Going to just stop Soul Hackers and wait for Final. Its not worth it.
>>329535151
Be aware the game is bullshit hard at first. Save constantly and the difficulty will quickly become more reasonable.
>>329535168
So what's the problem?
How do you have no yen and no Μagnetite?
>>329535238
i'll keep that in mind
>>329535102
None. Magnatite is unique to Soul Hackers.
>>329535283
It was used in earlier SMT games, was it not? I haven't gotten around to playing them yet but I'm sure they used it too.
>>329535283
>Magnatite is unique to Soul Hackers
haah waaw
>>329534836
>Can't even manage MAG and Soul Hackers dungeons.
>Recommend Strange Journey.
That's just cruel.
>>329535048
>implying im not wearing the best armor at this point in the story
Raw stats don't mean shit against plenty of attacks.
>>329535319
Yeah you're right. I've only played the first SMT for the older ones so I guess I just forgot and assumed like a retard.
>>329535423
The dungeons aren't hard, the need to grind is just bad design.
>>329535423
Strange Journey is difficult in the dungeon crawling and some boss fights. The resource management isn't that bad.
>>329535283
No, no, no. Kyuuyaku, and all the Super Famicom SMT had them (not sure about smt if... though).
>>329535497
There isn't a need to grind. If you're grinding I'm amy SMT you're doimg it wrong.
Demons camt even levelup, why are you grinding?
>>329534461
It's one of the best SMT games, and not grindy at all. I hate to be one of those guys but it really sounds like you just suck at the game.
>>329535515
Did SMT 1 have it? I honestly can't remember
>>329535497
Maybe for a couple of bosses. As long as your efficiently fusing, doing sidequests and not running from most battles you'll be fine
>>329535565
Mag, and my MC is being 1-2 shot despite stacking end
>>329535652
>Did SMT 1 have it?
Yes, it did. Not that it mattered, as you were given loads of MAG just by talking to demons once in a while.
>>329535608
Its pretty shit and outdated.
>>329535704
Thats probably why I don't remember it. My bad. Now I look like a faker!
So how is YHVH in Final? Is he still a complete asshole that you have to kill even on the LAW route?
>>329535710
The graphics maybe. Everything else is fine. Do yourself a favor and stick to easier stuff like Pokemon.
>>329535849
>the story
>the music and sound effects
>character design
>the battle system
You're bullshitting if you say this game doesnt feel old and archiac as fuck
Not that I'm saying they're bad things but the game feels very old
>>329535849
Pokemon is shit.
This is about difficultly, its about annoyance. RPGs aren't hard, never really are, but Soul Hackers takes to be more annoying and inconvenient than hard, mixed with a poorly executed story.
Nothing is really 'fine' in the game except Nemissa. It's a bland experience.
There's a cheat menu built into the 3DS version. You immediately get an overpowered sidekick who doesn't need MAG and can wipe out most enemies in one hit. You can talk your way out of battles. There's an app that lets you save anywhere. You get MAG out the ass for doing everything, which can be turned into money later. You get ANOTHER sidekick who doesn't need MAG through fusion. Every single dungeon is extremely short compared to other first-person grid maps in SMT.
How the FUCK does anyone have trouble with Soul Hackers?
>>329535827
Seems like it.Apart from having real Law route.
>>329535827
No, because the law route ends the game prematurely. So does chaos.
>>329534461
>Still no undub
>>329536016
Isn't* about difficultly
>>329536048
>need to cheat to play
>>329536048
>>329535941
>feel old and archiac as fuck
They just can't admit they suck that much. Like really, I talked my way through most of the game until the plant.
>>329535941
>the music and sound effects
Fuck you, leatherhead.
>>329534461
When will we get the undub version?
