http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/223814-the-windows-store-saddles-pc-games-with-significant-limitations
>Only run on Windows 10
>Cannot be managed by Steam
>No SLI / Crossfire support
>No refund policy
>Use borderless full screen with a refresh rate lock synchronized to your display rate (the lock has been reported as 60Hz, because that’s the maximum refresh rate on many displays)
>Protected game files can hinder modding (this will vary depending on the structure of the title
WINBLOWS 10, NOT EVEN ONCE
>>329268416
Those comments reek of shilling.
>>329268416
I don't understand how it's so far for MS to get PC gaming right
You don't compete by offering less than what your competitors do and then placing restrictions on top of that. I guess they haven't learned anything from vista. After this flops they're free to try again in another 10 years.
>>329268416
>PC faggots are THIS entitled
Holy fucking shit, you autistic no lifes would avoid buying a PC game if the wind was blowing slightly too much to the east.
Be grateful your pathetic basement dwelling lives are comfortable enough to enjoy such luxuries like video games
#FirstWorldProblems
>>329269529
They are not trying to compete with Steam. They want to give people a reason to migrate to Win 10.
>>329268416
Nobody uses the Windows Store and nobody is forcing you to.
>>329268416
>Exclusive fullscreen
It really is dark times, isn't it?
>>329270060
>Being a smart consumer makes you entitled.
Please stop posting any time.
>>329272079
>PCucks
>smart consumers
oh i am laffin
>>329270060
People like you gives me no hope for this country
>>329270550
they failed
>KI with forced triple buffering & non exclusive fullscreen
HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR INPUT LAG SENPAI?
>>329272249
Don't you have another 100 hours of Bloodbourne to go play?
>>329272590
Don't you have some decent PC exclusi-
oh, wait.....
>>329268416
Why even use Windows 10 at this point? I'm not actively getting fucked in the ass by 7.
>>329270060
>corporatist shills being THIS entitled to profits
>>329272692
yep.
>>329272692
Xcom 2 and pillars meet that
Don't you have another falseflag thread to make sonycuck?
>>329272794
Because downgrading takes effort.
>>329272249
>sonycucks
>paying for online
>pay for shit ports
>thinks they are smart consumers
top kek you cucks actually DEFENDED paid online
>>329273376
Which is especially funny considering how much they attacked the 360 for it just a few short years ago.
They really do eat whatever shit is shoveled onto their plate.
>>329268416
>no refund
Stop being so entitled, Steam didn't have refunds for years and with constant requests.
>>329274740
But according to the laws of my country, and several others, I am entitled to a refund, hence Steam changing its position.
>>329275242
How does it work for new physical games? Can you just open and play them, then return to a fucking gamestop equivalent?
I can't wait for the windows store exclusive that will make /v/ mad.
And when it happens, I'll cheer for all the years I was called names for not wanting to use steam. This will just be well deserved, and you'll know that feel of having to use a shitty DRM to play a game you want to play.
Fuck you /v/, you only get what you deserve.
>>329275603
It's different for buying stuff at shops from what I understand, but for ordering goods or services online (physical or otherwise), you're allowed to return an order for any reason within 14 days of when you got it.
>>329275967
>don't want to use DRM
>cheer for a different DRM
>this fullscreen shit
>no sli
This can't be true. It cant be.
Steam fuccbois need to get over the fact that not everyone likes the Stream monopoly
Fuck Steam, I couldn't give a shit what limitations there is. I get to play some actual good shit now.
PS4 owners, I humbly apologize on behalf of the reddit's "smart consumers" here.
We have fuck all games just like you guys. And now there retards complain when shit isn't perfect. I was prepared to sell my PC and we finally get games. Holy shit the retardation.
>>329276113
I've been used to this shitty situation for years, I don't give a shit anymore. One more DRM is nothing, they're all the same and one is already to much. I'm just glad those who supported the steam cancer for years will be punished the same way they sinned.
Enjoy windows store, origin, uplay, and the many more that I'm sure will come. As an advocate of DRMs, I'm sure you're happy.
>VR And PS4 use desktop composition
>Microsoft tried to move people a away from exclusive full-screen as there is no real benefit
>"BAAAAAAAAAAAAW MICROSHAFT FUCKING PC GAMERS. GABE SAVE US
Why are steamfags so bitter and angry? Big picture mode uses the same tech
THERE IS CROSSFIRE/SLI SUPPORT YOU SHILLING DRONE
>Cannot be managed by Steam
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THIS YOU RETARD. MS games you just click and play. No overlay whatsoever. That shit just works.
Origin is the only store that deserves praise.
>thread about something shitty involving the PC
>immediately turns into Sony bashing
/v/ pls
>>329276563
wew lad
>>329276383
kek put more pressure on ms and they will cave
just like sony fans could have put immense pressure on sony after that online paywall
>>329276917
>sony user comes along and implies pc users aren't smart consumers after denying paid mods and paid online/gfwl even though it meant no more games from ms
>hurrrr why is sony being attacked
>>329276917
>sonybrony shitposts about PC
>WE'RE UNDER ATTACK CERNY SAVE US WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
>>329276954
That's not a good analogy.
The only legit issue with MS is that files aren't directly accessible. That's literally all there is. We don't really have much to go on here without looking like entitled retards.
>>329277067
>sony user
There is nothing about the initial posts that imply the poster is a sonydrony. It was PC users who jumped straight to the conclusion that the person attacking their precious platform is a Sony user.
>>329277372
That's a pretty safe assumption tbqh
>>329277248
>The only legit issue with MS is that files aren't directly accessible. That's literally all there is. We don't really have much to go on here without looking like entitled retards.
There is
>no sli/crossfire
>forced vsync/ no unlimited frame rates
>no exclusive Fullscreen results in other software like overlays not working correctly with your games
It is objectively inferior to the same game on steam. There is literally no reason to defend this.
>>329269529
this holy shit
it's a marvel that no one's stolen their OS or office suite markets from them. they're absolutely lost as a company now.
>>329277372
It's pretty safe to say he was a sonyfag. Though he was being reasonable and the autists here won't see otherwise.
t. pcfat
>>329268416
>only run on window 10
what specific .dll does windows 10 have beyond DX12 that windows 8.1 doesn't have?
>>329270060
>you're not entitled to real fullscreen like you've had in thousands of games before
>you aren't entitled to higher refresh rates even though you've had them in tons of games before
>you aren't entitled to look or edit the ini files the game provides
>>329271719
Theres borderless fullscreen which is useful for things like tabbing out but its heavily prone to tearing, then theres "true" or "exclusive" fullscreen where the windows environment isn't rendered and the entire monitor is captured
>>329277504
No dummy, They confirmed yesterday that SLI/Crossfire works, devs just never implemented it in current games.
>forced vsync/ no unlimited frame rates
They also mentioned that vsync limitations are being removed. I personally know a dev, that shit's been in the works.
>other software like overlays not working correctly with your games
What other software? Steam? Again, that's can be pointed at the dev of the overlay software and limited file access (WHICH IS SAID WAS THE ONLY DOWNSIDE AS WE SPEAK).
>>329277876
>They also mentioned that vsync limitations are being removed. I personally know a dev, that shit's been in the works.
>I personally know a dev
I personally know my dad works for nintendo
>>329277876
my apple works at pokemon
>>329277961
Not someone who works at MS you retard. Just a guy who's made a game for the store at some point.
>>329269529
Microsoft is at a complete loss now that they lost their stranglehold on the market.
>>329278101
>I know a guy who is a guy who is a dev and he says its been in works
k, my dad knows a guy who knows a thing or too as well
>b-b-but Steam was shit when they started too
Steam was pioneering a service platform, making revisions and improvements as they ventured into unexplored territory. All Microsoft had to do was copy-paste the work that Valve put in and they couldn't even do that right.
>>329278021
>>329277961
https://twitter.com/XboxQwik/status/703734557774774272
if you didn't believe me
>>329278243
>some rando on twitter
>>329278161
>Microsoft is at a complete loss now that they lost their stranglehold on the market.
Y-yeah, right.
>>329278213
Steam is full of shitty indie games though. Who gives a fuck about that.
>>329277567
A key that says it's windows 10 and not 8.1.
>>329278353
>go into registry
>change title text to windows 10
>bam it works!
>no SLI/Crossfire support
Into the fucking trash it goes, holy shit, how are you gonna have DX12 and not fucking use it? Jesus Niggernipples Christ, there is no way I will use your shit now, MS.
>>329278213
Steam is still shit.
>>329278213
Steam still is shit. The only reason its still used is because it was the only option for so long that most devs/publishers were forced to stick with it.
>>329278434
read the thread anon, there is support
>>329278467
>steam is till shit
>owns 90% of the market for game hosting
>>329278345
I wasn't even referring specifically to OS marketshare.
>>329278532
Oh,
Let me read the thread then.
I was being reactionary and triggered. I apologize.
>>329278474
>its still shit
>the easiest fucking thing around to use
>can even play games offline indefinitely with absolutely zero conflicts
>supports all your software, drivers and games easily
>>329278345
>windows XP has better increase in users than ganoox
kek, people prefer using a decade old OS over latest GNU/linux.
>>329278665
>supports all your software, drivers and games easily
why do the illiterate post here?
>tfw im not gonna move to win10 anytime soon
>win7 for now
>will switch to win 8.1 when 7 support ends
>before i start to use win10 i will already be married , have a family and no times for vidya
>>329278695
Retro City Rampage sold better on MS-DOS than on linux
It's amazing that Windows Vista is now the best Windows OS.
>No SLI or CrossFire: If you have multiple NVIDIA or AMD graphics cards using SLI or CrossFire, the Windows Store version won’t be good for you. It doesn’t support SLI or CrossFire, although the Steam version does.
>VSync is Always On: VSync is designed to eliminate screen tearing, but it can have downsides–like adding input lag, or decreasing game performance. If you have the Steam version, you can choose whether or not you want to use VSync. On the Windows Store version, it’s always enabled.
>Always Borderless Fullscreen Mode: The Store version will always run in “borderless fullscreen” mode, also known as “fullscreen (windowed)” mode.
>Sorry, No Modding: Windows Store apps are protected, so this means modding–one of the mainstays of PC gaming–just isn’t possible.
>No .exe File (and No Steam Controller): You can’t launch the game directly as an .exe file. This means you can’t add it to Steam
>No Overlays: You also can’t use overlays or any other software with the game.
>Mouse Macros Won’t Work: Mouse utilities that allow you to create custom macros for specific games won’t work with the Windows Store version of the game.
>No Clear Refund Policy: Steam now has a great refund policy.
>Only for Windows 10: The Windows Store version of the game will only ever work on Windows 10.
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB and i was to copy steam the same way EA copied steam to make origin
but NOOOOOOO that was TOO fucking hard
>supporting Windows Store after the XBL debacle
>XBL flat out broke games and made them into buggy messes when porting to Steamworks
Seriously? You fags want to repeat this again?
>>329278765
>steam overlay works with my motionjoy 2 software, my Xbox360 controller driver and I can add any game to steam via their .exe's
fuck off shill
>>329278868
good thing I didn't install those updates because I'm not a fucking retard that lets microsoft do what ever they want to my computer
>>329278804
Nobody cares dude. You're not special for running a slightly older botnet.
Go full tinfoil or fuck off.
>>329278804
>he's a sonycuck
READ THE THREAD. HALF OF THIS SHIT IS FALSE YOU FUCKING VALVEDRONE
>>329278923
I go by the 3 strike rule.
>>329278896
>>No Overlays: You also can’t use overlays or any other software with the game.
say good bye to FRAPS, EVGA precision X frame reporter, Nvidia shadowplay, OBS, and any and all overlays
>>329278896
Now MS just needs to lock steam out of windows ecosystem. Or pay devs so they make the same version for windows store and steam.
Don't tell me you're against restrictive DRMs, you've been using steam for years now (most of you most likely never knew gaming before the steam cancer).
>>329279351
steam's "DRM" is almost like free and open source software in comparison to microsoft's DRM
>>329278923
>XBL flat out broke games and made them into buggy messes when porting to Steamworks
PC gaming is literally becoming software console war. This is pathetic.
It will still have denuvo so stfu.
>>329278923
Resident Evil 5 is still a broken buggy mess on Steamworks. They had to re-enable the GFWL version as an alternate beta just so people could play the fucking game without massive visual bugs and game breaking nonsense. There is user patches available for SOME of this stuff but a lot still hasn't been fixed and probably won't be.
Windows Store looks like an even WORSE version of GFWL that allows people even less control over the products they buy. Which fits right in with Windows 10 in how it absolutely hates power users and refuses to give them any control. I'd rather buy into the monopoly Valve is pushing than buy into anything designed by modern day Microsoft.
>>329279446
>"DRM"
>""
>>329279596
its not nearly as invassive in comparison. It never really has. The only annoying DRM like part about it was years ago (up until like 2010) you couldn't play games offline for more than 6 months, but now its indefinite.
>>329279596
Steam ISN'T a DRM, you fucking idiot.
>>329269529
microsoft wants control because that's how you make money, but that's pretty much the opposite of what made pc gaming successful. at this point it would be better off if we could ditch directx and mass migrate to ganoo/loonix.
>>329272692
more than both consoles :^)
>>329270060
Pretty funny anon.
>>329279913
Steam is a monopoly. Everything they do is the opposite of what Microsoft is doing right now. Microsoft thinks they can just muscle in, force a bunch of games to be "windows store exclusive" and "windows 10 exclusive to access DX12" and things will go great for them. They are dead wrong. I won't buy a single game off their shitty DRM store and I refuse to get Windows 10 (like most the rest of the world)
>>329280179
>Steam is a monopoly
no its not, it has never been the soul proprietor of game hosting software
>>329280179
>I won't buy a single game off their shitty DRM store and I refuse to get Windows 10
I'll enjoy all those windows store exclusive. I guess it can't be worse than playing on of those unfinished steam indie garbage.
>>329270550
>They are not trying to compete with Steam. They want to f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ give people a reason to migrate to Win 10.
>>329280179
Nearly half of Steam's userbase are on 10. 7 will lose users just like XP did, deal with it
>loyalty to a DRM
What a great time we're living.
>>329280576
>nearly half
>30%
