>DX12 doesn't allow true full screen
>/v/ absolutely hates Vulcan
What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?
/v/ isn't one person
>>329200062
>>DX12 doesn't allow true full screen
No, the Windows 10 Store doesn't allow true fullscreen. The Windows 10 Store doesn't allow a lot of things, which is why people are made games are becoming exclusive to it.
Also, no one here hates Vulkan.
>>329200172
>people are made
people are mad*
>>329200062
Go away AMD. Your market share isn't coming back.
>>329200364
Pretty sure AMD, Intel, and Nvidia all support both DX12 and Vulkan
>>329200446
SHUT UP BITCH I HAVE TO ACCUSE OP OF SHILLING FOR SOMEBODY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>329200062
"true full screen" is horseshit that makes games crash and is a pain in the ass in general.
Forcing borderless down the throats of devs is a godsend.
DirectX has nothing to do with graphics. Direct3D does. Direct3D is one small part of DirectX. When did people start referring to Direct3D as DirectX?
And Direct3D always sucked shit.
>>329202742
Borderless or windowed mode performs worse, on Windows at least. 'Hurr upgrade your toaster' is not a valid argument against this. Faster modes should be supported always.
>>329203234
Barely.
I've never noticed a difference. AFAIK its only if you're literally out of VRAM because Windows suspends the desktop / window compositing to disk.
Forcing all games to support borderless is more important to me.
>>329202993
>Direct3D is one component of a fully functional media suite known as Direct X, as defined by microsoft. There really is a Direct X 12 and these people are using it, but it's just a part of the system microsoft offers
Nobody gives a fuck, vulkantard, everybody will upgrade to Win 10 and praise DX12 for the 50% performance boosts while you continue to cry on your gentoo board about muh freedoms.
>>329200062
>DX12 doesn't allow true full screen
>I'm a stupid shit that knows nothing
Only the WinStore version of games won't allow it thanks to Microsoft being incompetent pricks that put limiting factors into their trash
see >>329200172
>Pcsx2 still hasnt gone 64bit
>No timetable for when dx12 is brought in
Fucking Dolphin, xenia, and rpcs3 already have it. Why are the pcsx2 devs so lazy
>>329204228
>Why are the pcsx2 devs so lazy
They actually said they gave up on 64-bit because it would be too much work maintaining 32-bit and 64-bit along with other bullshit excuses
DX12 is so based, it turns budget rigs into beastly powerhouses, toasters into acceptable low-mid-end gaming machines.
>>329200062
>true full screen
>2016
Seriously? >>329202742
Who the fuck would willingly put windows 10 on their computer? Do people just like being fucked in the ass?
>>329204228
>xenia
It doesn't, but Vulkan is in the works.
>>329202742
>>329203402
>>329204883
You get 1 extra frame of input lag in borderless/windowed mode on Win8/10.
DirectX12 is disgusting, it literally fucked my gtx so hard i had to downgrade to windows 8
>>329200062
Dx12 is mantle and vulkan is developed by open gl. Nvidia is biased to dx and amd is opengl. Vulkan still has a very long road I wouldn't expect anything till at least next year
explain to a dumb idiot what the hell vulkan is
>>329203608
Yea dx runs better because nVidia developed it not Microsoft. It's just mantle
>>329204632
how about they fucking drop 32-bit already
>2016
>32-bit
>>329205270
It's like DirectX but not. It's also not limited to Windows.
>>329205140
>my gtx
Are you serious?
>>329205270
Dx12 pretty much came from mantle
Vulkan also pretty much came from mantle.
Vulkan is the successor to opengl4.5, dx12 is the successor to dx11.2
Both are very similar in design, but vulkan is supported across linux, windows xp+, ps4, xboxone, android, etc while dx12 is limited to windows phones and windows 10
>>329205270
It's just a graphics API like DirectX, but supposedly being more efficient.
The main thing is that it's cross-platform, so it could eliminate Microsoft's monopoly on PC gaming by locking DirectX to Windows.
>>329207127
Unfortunately that doesn't mean much considering Windows still have the majority share in basically everything else.
>>329205532
>Yea dx runs better because nVidia developed it
the flying fuck are you smoking?
>>329200062
wtf is vulcan and why should /v/ care?
>>329207217
No, it means a lot. If you make a game in Vulkan, you can now tap the Linux market instead of simply the Windows market. Further, because Vulkan was derived from Mantle just like DX12 was derived from Mantle; this makes programming and porting to it from DX12 much much easier--since the core infrastructure is very similar if not identical in many places.
While yes, Windows does have a majority share when it comes to operating system; Vulkan if used properly, has a small chance of offsetting that monopoly.
>>329208681
read the thread you fucking tard, someone already asked that.
>>329208735
Until editing suites, big business programs, POS programs, and other large industry programs also move, i doubt that gaming will even dent that market.
>>329208681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_I8an8jXuM
>running on smartphone/tablet hardware
>sheer geometry increase
>massive performance increase
>proper fucking CPU scaling
pic unrelated
>>329205536
I wish everyone would just collectively decide that it's time to bury 32-bit for good. It's holding us back.
>Hates on Windows 10
>Gives shitty reasons why
>Uses a outdated and unsupported os, because reasons.
I dunno senpai, dat shit is retarded logic
>>329208735
>you can now tap the Linux market
Oh hell yeah, 7 more people to buy my games.
>wanting fullscreen when borderless exists
Hello 2003.
>>329210724
>I wish everyone would just collectively decide that it's time to bury 32-bit for good. It's holding us back.
How is 32 bit holding PCSX2 back?
>>329215102
>retro city rampage was ported to Linux and MS-DOS on the same day
>tfw more people bought the MS-DOS version than the Linux version
