How do people justify Witcher 3's awful gameplay?
Usually along the lines of:
>B-But it's pretty
>B-But it has 200 hours of gameplay
Yes, boring dull gameplay.
The leshens were my favorite monster.
Usually they just pretend it isn't Bamham combat then pretend that "But it's good."
It has the best gameplay out of every single open world wrpg
>>324730430
That's like winning an award at the special olympics
>>324729734
They don't. It's appalling, like in previous two games. You just look for exploits until it becomes bearable.
>TW3 has bad combat meme
L I T E R A L L Y doesn't exist outside of /v/
It has perfectly okay combat. It's nothing special but it's certainly not bad, and the arguments of people who claim it is inevitably boil down to
>wahh it's not dark souls
If you're honestly trying to claim any aspect of its gameplay outside of combat is bad then you don't have a leg to stand on
Obligatory
>>324729734
You must be really mad that F4 didn't win the game of the year award.
>sage
I remember a thread once where some guy said "the combat isn't bad, it's just a lower priority" or some nonsensical bullshit like that.
lol who the fuck plays that autistic anyways
>lets roll into the enemy
>>324729734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leshy
>>324730493
Then the fucking buttblasted soulsfags should stop shitting on it.
>there are people who hate TW3 combat but will praise 1's
>>324729734
>DRM FREE! Better than steam XD
CDPR fanboys, funding console ports.
>>324729734
Western devs have never been able to make their game mechanics precise or consistent. The hitboxes, invincibility frames, input delay, range, attribute values, shit's all over the place. That's why western devs never made any good character action games either.
It is literally infinately better than Bloodborne/Dark Souls.
Its not just roll and dodge, you use spells to target your enemies ie: using a magictrap to target wraithes, using different swords for different enemies, and having health be something to be conscious of, with food not restoring it instantly (like blood vials.)
I know /v/ will hate it because its not LE BULLET HELL 4TH WALL BREAKING, but it got GOTY for a reason.
It's like the opposite of Dragons Dogma
>great story, characters
>worse than skyrim combat
and DD is
>retarded story, almost all idiotic characters
>really fun combat
>rolling
WGAR THWE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
>>324729734
>repeatedly roll towards an enemy with a fast, wide angle melee attack
>get punched
>WWOOOOOOOWWW
>>324730762
>but it got GOTY for a reason
The reason is definitely not the consoleshit combat.
>>324730608
/thread
Witcherfags will defend this
Why is this allowed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxWqkV4knJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaeit-y-urc
>>324729734
With the patch that added the alternative controls, the gameplay has moved from shit to mediocre.
>>324730839
wow great argument
>>324730608
this
>>324730793
>great story, characters
I want this meme to end
>>324729734_______________git gud_______________
>>324730713
actually thats why I hate Witcher 2, combat was fine then they casualised it.
>>324730854
Is that supposed to be an example of good combat? I can believe DD's combat is alright, but what I saw from that video was a mess
>>324730762
>I know /v/ will hate it because its not LE BULLET HELL 4TH WALL BREAKING, but it got GOTY for a reason.
Bout to fall all over for this shit
>>324730430
That would be Gothic 2.
It's fine. Not great but the tools are there to make it fun for yourself instead of finding what's OP then spamming the same shit over and over
>>324729734
>how do people justify Witcher 3s awful gameplay
muh story
muh open world
muh lore
muh characters
muh ciri
>>324730831
>wide angle attack
>hits the player when he's not even in the range of it
>CDPR shills still denying downgrade
>>324731004
my nigga.
I would go as far as to say that even gothic 3 had quite good gameplay. the melee fighting was tedious, but the world, exploration and general quests were amazing. way better than most wrpgs nowadays anyway
>>324730631
I assumed the webm was to show off the shitty hitbox on the move, then again, I have no idea
>>324729734
By playing the game and realising it's great by yourself.
>>324730608
>it has two dodge moves
They do the same thing, except with different distance.
Godhand has three dodge moves each with its mechanic.
>>324730762
>but it got GOTY for a reason.
Didn't TLOU win GOTY too?
>>324730854
>>324727928
Don`t you have anything better to do?
>>324729734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXh4fGo_VdM
Fuck the music was good.
>>324730608
Got a point
>>324730762
>but it got GOTY for a reason.
Funny how the CDPR shills were so anti GOTY awards when Cisquisition won so many in 2014.
Does anyone else think the combat in the witcher 1 was the best in the series? I tried to play 1 and 2 before 3 was released, but I dropped 2 just a few hours in because I couldn't stand that godawful shit.
>>324730934
>make game as a spinoff of long established book series
>use characters as they become relevant to the story you want to tell
>introduce more characters as you need them
How is this a bad thing
you're the same brand of faggot that complains about Peeves not being in the harry potter movies and Bombadil not getting a part in Jackson's adaptation
I actually think the combat isn't the worst part.
The quest design is.
Who the fuck wants to do "go here talk to this person, then go there and talk to that person" quests? And they do this shit RIGHT BEFORE the final confrontation with the final boss. No, we DON'T want to go with Ciri to say THANK YOU to some asshole that helped her, it's not fun. The amount of padding in this game reaches obscene. It 100-130 hours of gameplay, with 1/3 of that walking and talking to people.
>>324729734
the official stance is usually "if you don't like it you are a weeb pedophile"
>>324731282
Is this the first RPG you played?
>>324729734
They turn the difficulty down.
>now it's the best game ever because everything is easy
>>324731086
>>324729734
It wasn't awful, and it never bugged on me even once.
SO IMMERSIVE. SO VISCERAL AND RESPONSIVE
>>324731125
And babybourne has one
>>324730854
Holy fucking shit, I thought Witcher 3having shit combat was a meme but that's humiliating
>>324730608
>It's great on death march!
I love this meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkFqn1TMeH4
It has been said 1000 times, the only reason players don't put down the controller and give up, is because the story, world and exploration kept them hooked.
Can someone who likes the witcher 1 tell me why you like it?
I played 30 hours and got bored because i found the combat repetetive (click once, click again when sword flashes) and didnt find the story interesting or like Geralt. Was I missing something or did the combat get better?
>>324730430
Dragon Dogma > dogshit > Witcher 3
>Witcher 3 combat
pretty shit to be honest fampai
because
>so many GOTY
>>324731282
Worry not. They added a literal cheat button vision to help you out. Because when you want the Ass Creed audience, you can't leave anything to intellect.
>>324731442
Bloodborne has 2 different dodges anon, you'd know this if you actually played the game.
also
>b-b-b-but bloodborne!
>s-stop shitting on my f-favorite game!
Every time
>>324731434
>>324730854
those fucking fireworks effect that's so cheap and miserable why is it allowed?
>>324731485
>retard cant use lockon
>>324729734
GOTY
>"we luv u cd projekt deez best rpg of all tims xDDDD"
>>324729734
If you think it's "awful" your standards are absurd. It's fine. Nothing out-of-this-world, mind you.
>>324731624
If you can't defend X, divert attention to Y. It's how Witcher drones always roll in these threads. Meanwhile, nobody even gives a single shit about Witcher in Bloodborne threads.
>>324731571
This
>GOTY awards matter when its a game I like
>GOTY awards dont matter when its a game I dislike
>Gets hundreds of GOTYs from the same places that gave garbage like Skyrim and DAI GOTY
>it still somehow matters
Its like the fucking Oscars. They haven't mattered in a long time and wont matter in a long time.
>>324729734
I don't.
Game was awful.
>>324730979
It's true :3
>>324731127
Yeah, and it also won hundreds of awards from other respected gaming magazines and websites.
>>324731237
Didn't really care then either.
Jesus christ, are you picking up where that assravaged autist from the northern states left off? You realize he quit because he became a laughing stock over how much shitposting he did in such a short period of time. Quite literally everyday for months he made the same threads, posted the same pictures and the same webms with the same youtube videos. You really want to carry on that legacy?
>>324730608
>"You don't get it! None of you! You need to play game on hardest settings to understand it's true beauty!!!"
>>324731697
>lockon icon clearly above enemy
>>324730854
WITCHERKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>324731585
What about "go here and talk to this person" requires intellect? It's literally the most brain-dead part of the game. Do you even think before you post?
>>324731365
No
>>324731547
Dragons Dogma is pure shit though, it's completely unrefined and hack/slashy.
TW3's combat blows that garbage out of the water and doesn't even need the retarded "climb on the cyclops 100 tims" gimmick.
Half the turds playing TW3 did it with a controller, probably not even knowing how to block, or counter attacks.
It's hard to believe Dragons Dogma was something plebs enjoyed years ago. What an awful game.
>>324731697
>lockon defaults to 'z'
>>324731282
>start up the game
>some dwarf or something wants me to find an arsonist
>game wants me to stare at the floor until I just find myself at his house
>>324730854
DELETE THIS
>>324729734
>game is unchallenging even on the hardest difficulty
>loot is leveled, punishing exploration
>MMO-style levels where things below your level become ridiculously easy, in a game where overleveling is very easy to do by accident
>open world is generally done pretty badly, with shitty inclusions like level 20+ monsters in lower level areas which really just ends up padding time with uninteresting backtracking and dumb shit like the smuggler's caches in Skellige
I can't believe the love for this game
>>324730608
>>324730841
>>324731183
Stop jerking each other off you fucking redditards
>>324729734
>just like muh souls series!
>>324731863
That's how tracking works you dumbfuck.
>>324729734
B-but combat is not important in RPGs!
>>324731816
>whines about autoswitch
>theres a lock on
>whines about not being able to hit someone else whilst locked on
>clearly cant switch his lock on
I'll say again
>retard cant use lockon
>>324730793
TW3's combat has its problems but it's definitely more engaging than Skyrim's
That's like smelling better than a turd though
>>324731542
It is the most faithful to the atmosphere and characters of the books. Combat, while brain dead simple had a nice ARPG wibe to it, speaking of which, game itself is pretty much more store focused ARPG, which in retrospect was a really good choice. W2 and 3 felt too consolized after it in almost every aspect, except maybe graphics.
>>324731964
What about asking around? What about finding the clues yourself instead of HOLD BUTTON LOOK FOR RED? Why not just let the sense button autopilot me to the next area if all I have to do is follow a path?
> 2016
> still crying over W3
With fuckton of hours in DS1/DS2/BB im glad W3 didnt have combat like souls game.
W3 won msot awards by both reviewers and players. It doesnt mean that any game with awards = good. It depends on your fucking personal taste. You couldnt force for example "red alert is good rts" on guy who simply doesnt enjoy rts games.
And again and again its still same buttblasted people spamming same webm with "LOL W3 SUCKS HOW COULD YOU EVER LIKE IT". Nobody is forcing on you that game and if you like dragon dogma or souls game more - go and play it for fuck sake
I still remember that people furious at witcher 1 because "LOL RPG AND I CANT WEAR HEAVY ARMOR AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF WEAPONS" and "WHY I CANT BE BLACK WOMAN, WHY THEY FORCE ME INTO SOME WHITE-HAIRED GUY". Now meh, we have "LOLCOMBAT" childs there
>>324731834
Is Dragon's Dogma going to be the next targeted game by CDPR shills? First Bloodborne, then MGSV and then DD? >>324731759
Ask yourself why everyone hates CDPR drones. Meanwhile CDPR drones still think they're the kings of /v/ because they shill their shitty AAA wannabe daily.
>>324731834
There's plenty of people enjoying Dragon's Dogma right now. And the combat is way more complex than TW3 without even considering climbing.
>>324731834
People who think the combat in Dragons Dogma can be summed up with "climb on the cyclops 100 tims" should not speak on it by the way.
I bet 99% of you faggots who are whining about the game on the first week of release didn't do 2 things.
1 - play slowly, and actually experience the feeling of adventure that Dragons Dogma does so well. Its not all about the gameplay, its about adventuring into far off lands with your party and defeating hideous beasts while the oil in your lamp starts to run dry. Thats Dragons Dogma.
2 - BBI. You faggots probably dont even know what BBI even is, or what is in it.
>>324730608
just because you can (and need to) dodge and attack stuff, and that there are enemies that can kill you quickly doesn't make it a good combat system. I can't believe how it's not obvious to you how retarded that argument is.
By that logic, every FPS shooting combat system is good because you can fire bullets and can evade them by moving out of your opponents line of fire.
the witcher 3's combat system is horse shit: the hit detection is imprecise, the actual attacks you execute for the most part do not matter a single bit, the placement from where you attack for the most part doesn't matter a single bit, the precise timing of when you attack doesn't matter a single bit since there's no concept of counter or interrupt damage bonuses in it. and since the entire itemization of the game is boring as fuck, the entire metagame around the combat system does not support its mechanics at all, making it even more mediocre than it already is.
>>324729734
The combat isn't the best but its passable
Fact is games, especially rpgs, a game is more than the combat system
There's character customization, stat building, immersion
>>324731896
Watching the Sword of Destiny trailer I was actually fucking hyped for this game. The art design looked fucking fantastic and the world felt worthy of exploring.
Jesus fuck what a let down
>>324732109
>tfw I did my first playthrough forbidding myself to use quen and it still wasn't particularly challenging on death march
KURWA WE MAKE GAME WE PROMISE WE NOT EA PAY US MONEY FOR SEASON PASS AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT SHITTY GAME YOU ENTITLED KURWA
>>324731237
With how defensive CDPR fags were being towards DA:I, you'd think they would have a bit more integrity.
>>324732109
The fuck are you on about? No one talks about Witcher 3 on /v/ unless it's specifically brought up to be a shitposting thread, just like this one. 9/10 posts in these threads is just posting the same version 1.01 webms and videos while trying to start shit up between different fanbases. CDRPdrones never went after MGSV or Bloodborne, and they're not even in DD threads. They never even spill over into those threads. This is all just shitposting that keeps coming up for no reason.
Was GOTY 2015 seriously this big of a deal to you fags?
>>324731807
Yes a lot of games definitive experience are on hard mode
You might as well be complaining abput easy mode being to easy
>>324731964
I think his point is that tracking is shit and it should be more like Morrowind where you're given clues and you have to actually *find* the landmark/person.
>>324730839
DeS DaS where console games faggot,
>>324731971
>gameplay is not important in a video game
This argument is always fucking retarded, be your post sarcasm or not.
>food doesnt need flavor
>books dont need good writing
>movies dont need good stories
>>324732409
>Was GOTY 2015 seriously this big of a deal to you fags?
Was GOTY 2014 seriously a big deal to CDPR drones? Apparently yes considering how butthurt and dismisse you fucks were when Inquisition won. And when Witcher 3 wins it's suddenly sucking Dorito Pope's jew cock.
>>324731896
I still can't believe that there are people who denied there was a downgrade.
Are they all blind or something?
>>324732524
Reminder that the devs promised it would look like advertised all the way until we got actual gameplay less than a month before launch.
>>324732502
But DA:I is abysmal
>>324731834
Dragon Dogma
>10~ vocations each with their unique weapon sets/skillsets
>numerous weapons from axes, maces, swords, daggers, dual wiedling, 2handed, archery, sorcery from mages (some of the best magic in RPG history)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWatmDmKGDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3zT4VJcTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN5vQI-vsXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8vPCQYkgvM
Witcher 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaeit-y-urc - Last boss
>Choose between a swordsman who uses magic or a swordsman who uses Alchemy
>1 Handed swords, only weapon (other weapons are literally impractical as it doesn't fit "MUH LORE")
>Boring fill a map with collectibles design
>Horrific sailing and sailing based combat
>On the same note awful underwater combat and related collectible gathering across Skellige
>Holding down witcher senses to solve the majority of main, side quests and contracts
>Usually only one or two options to finishing a quest, sometimes with very unsatisfying endings
>Have to repair your weapon every 2 minutes
>Dull combat system where the majority of your abilities are available at you at the start of the game, signs essentially involve throwing sparklers on the ground
>Limitless ways to dumb combat down on any difficulty including specializing for alchemy, using the quen talents or pulling an enemy out of its aggro range and whacking away as it runs back
>Boring weapon customization
>Unbelievable amounts of talking between combat
and I could go on and on
>>324732686
It's not fair comparing DD to Witcher 3. DD was made by a team of highly experienced and dedicated Japanese devs whereas Witcher 3 was made by some amateur potato farmers. It's a wonder Witcher 3 even functions.
>Witcher 3 combat
>awful
Clearly you people haven't spent as long playing vidya as I have.
>>324732502
So the answer is yes. Why then? Is it because Fallout 4 didn't win?
Or even better, why would CDPR shills give a shit about a year where their game didn't come out? What weight does 2014 carry aside from shitposting reasons? Given how multiple fanbases actively despise /dag/ and EA in general, and the lengthy history of everyone laughing at /dag/fags for the abysmal shitposting campaign that ended in Witcher 2 having more sales and winning GOTY over Dragon Age 2 (which was a fued the Dragon Age fanbase started). Why would it fucking matter
>>324730713
W1 has weird and unique combat with actual combat styles.
W3 is a light/strong attack mash fest that only needs a small amount of minmaxing to blow death march out.
>>324732634
So is Witcher 3
>>324732868
Take a shot every time a CDPR drone deflects criticism to FO4/DA/Any Other RPG.
>>324729734
witcherfags eat up everything
>>324731434
This always made me laugh.
You can't sit there and shit all over the gameplay when you willingly chose to play with the most easily exploitable spells and abilities that trivialized the combat to the point where no effort was required.
>Deathmarch
>NG+
>no shitty pirouette sword perks
>just swing and dodge
See how long before your ass get's wreckedby a pack of enemies because thats actually the only instance where the combat suffers, group combat.
>>324732835
Your argument is really fucking retarded and you should feel retarded.
First witcher is hands down the best witcher experience in the entire series.
-no shitty open world, instead we got hubs with good detalization that still had relatively large open areas
-way better RPG system than in both sequels, in fact W3 has hands down the worst character progression system in the entire series
-it's hard to acquire new, stronger swords and armor making them feel extremely precious unlike W3 with its ton of useless loot
-best alchemy system in series where you can actually experiment with ingredients and end up with more powerful potions that have secondary effects
-actually requires prep time, you can't just waltz in, drop a sign and kill a really hard monster
-3 distinct combat styles instead of 2 attack buttons, even though the combat itself looked more like a rhythm game, it was still better than ARPG abortion we got in W2/3
-good story and set of characters with actual intrigue instead of 100 hours of "muh Ciri", you can also actually follow the path of neutrality
Second and third game destroyed all unique little things the first game introduced back in 2007 and tried to be as much of a generic, shitty, watered down ARPG as it was humanly possible and succeeded at that nicely.
>Playing like shit on purpose
>"l-l-loooo-ok a-at how b-bad it is.... :("
Every time. It's not the best combat out there but it worked.
>>324729734
With it's good ass story, soundtrack, and graphics.
>>324732892
Witcher 3 doesn't require ANY min/maxing, I literally became OP on accident on Death March. The game is embarrassing
This is what happens when a polish dev drinks too much Tiger energy drinks.
Don't try this at home.
>>324733130
Haha epic hardcore gam3r xD ever thought of going pro??
>>324733069
>name example of actual better combt system
>NOOO WITCHER COMBAT DA BEST
From what I've seen, the combat is incredibly bland but by no means bad.
>>324732976
>Y-You're deflecting!
You're doing the exact same thing by constantly bringing DD or MGSV or DA3 or FO4 into it. Hell, you fags even pop up in other threads trying to actively start something and the bait never catches. So why continue to make these shitposting threads? Are you seriously just another one of those retards who shitposts the same script all day everyday?
>>324733036
NG+ is literally easier and Death March is piss easy as well when you figure the basics out. The game just isn't hard, stop damage controlling nigger
>>324733036
>when you willingly chose to play with the most easily exploitable spells and abilities that trivialized the combat to the point where no effort was required.
Not him but SO MUCH FUCKING SHIT is OP in this game. Talented quen, talented igni, talented toxicity increases, talented mutagen health boosts, whirlwind. Hell even some of the weapon procs can keep an enemy stunlocked. It's incredible how there's basically no balance at all
>>324733036
>no shitty pirouette sword perks
>you must make the combat even less engaging, have even less depth and less moves for it to finally be good
>you must be on NG+ (complete the fucking yawn inducing story once for the gameplay to be good goy!)
Fucking really? Really?
>>324733195
Never said it was the best. Only said it was okay.
Seems you can only work using extremes. You must be american.
>>324733130
>just upgrading Igni
>burning DOT murders all enemies, even those with artificially buffed defenses because of a difference in your level
>>324732347
you fucking what? I played on death march and for FUCK sake I got my ass kicked so many times. After 3 days playing this shit I couldn't even get on lvl10. I even tried that circulating evasion tactic but shit didn't worked. And don't even try to say that I was playing badly. After 3 days I got most of the monsters attack animation but it takes only 2 drowners to kick my ass. fuck this game.shit was fun as fuck
I quite enjoy it. It's challenging and actually requires some skill to fight well, unlike AC or lots of other open world games nowadays. It's well balanced and difficult, which is how it should be.
>>324733221
Why are you in a thread cleatly expressing negative opinions on a game you clearly like? Why not leave? Branding threads that have differing opinions to yours as "SHITPOSTS" only makes you look like a salty drone senpai.
Just leave and pretend this thread doesn't exist :^)
Oh look it's the same autist again.
>>324733287
>all that ad hominem
>>324733439
>After 3 days playing this shit I couldn't even get on lvl10.
>And don't even try to say that I was playing badly.
>>324730762
Excpet it wasnt goty and never will be
Generic fantasy games with shitty combat like witcher are just fotm
>>324733594
Thats literally what he fucking said
>dont use these moves lol, they make the game bad!
like ok, lets make the game even more shallow and boring, at least now its more difficult
fucking kek
>>324733439
>this desperate attempt to make this game out to be hard
>>324733556
Why be in a thread that is solely about a game you don't like? What's the purpose in just shitposting all day with other shitposters in a thread designed for shitposters? And yes, it is shitposting because time and time again anons get exposed because they get sloppy by posting the exact same photos and the exact same script, and sooner or later someone checks how often they post this shit in the archive. And then the witcher shitposting dies down for a few months just to spring back up with the exact same shit.
frankly, idk how they can overlook simple balance issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX_hOzsyXOM
the combat, as well as everything surrounding it (controls, enemy design, movesets etc.) is shit, just as the fanbase that defends bs like this >>324732607
but it's an excellent game if you're looking for an interactive game of thrones series
>>324733697
I must say that most of my gameplay time was in [/spoiler] loading screen because I died too much[/spoiler] :^)
>>324733814
>an interactive game of thrones series
I don't know why everyone keeps linking Witcher to Game of Thrones. Is it because Charles Dance is a voice actor in it?
>>324733814
>frankly, idk how they can overlook simple balance issues
Because CDPR knows that good graphics and muh story is more important for sales and reviews than actual gameplay. It's why Skyrim outsold DD 10:1. The market itself is fucked.
>>324729734
Git Gud faggot.
>>324733812
>Why be in a thread that is solely about a game you don't like?
Because i'm critiquing it with others and discussing why it's bad in our opinion. I don't solely discuss games I enjoy because /v/ isn't a hugbox and I take some enjoyment out of others sharing similar opinions to me with certain games.
>What's the purpose in just shitposting all day
I've not been shitposting here all day. So again, why not just leave this thread if it's causing you so much emotional distress?
Am I fucked up if I really enjoyed the Witcher 3's gameplay? The combat was fast-paced and responsive and felt quite visceral. Having to learn how to dodge proper and time my attacks was hard at first but felt really satisfying later on when I got the hang of it.
ITT: Console kiddies who played the first niche RPG the first time in their life and got rekt by the first Boss, then come here to complain about the game being bad.
You seem angry, OP. Shouldn't you be havingfunplayingvideo games?
>>324729734
You know when you need to make a thread every single day for the past 6 months to convince everyone else the game is bad, and still have zero people agree with you, you have failed quite hard.
Time to face the reality and admit the game is great.
>>324734058
>repeating a script with the same webms and videos is critiquing, not shitposting
Yeah that's what the german autist said before someone cataloged everything and showed how he's been posting the same shit every day, all day, for 3 months straight. Good luck in whatever you're trying to achieve. It won't take their GOTY away.
>>324734318
>Falling back to the GOTY defense
Irony.
>>324729734
this, it's souls games tier
>>324734134
>niche rpg
>generic fantasy that literally uses bamham vision and combat
>>324731434
That actually looks cool though. So you shot the big monster out of the sky with a crossbow and, after speccing into the magic that shoots fire out of your hand, you just roast it while it squirms on the ground.
That makes the gameplay look neat.
>>324729734
Other than the combat being too hard and having too much text to read, I find the gameplay quute addicting.
Maybe you need to gut gid like I did.
>>324734318
I never made this OP, I saw a thread discussing how bad this games combat was and decided to partake in it because I like discussing both things I like and dislike. What I wouldn't do is go into a thread and tell everybody to stop engaging in said discussion because it made my booty hurt.
So again,. why not leave?
>It won't take their GOTY away.
Not trying to take its GoTY away, I don't care much for arbitrary awards, especially when Skyrim and TLoU are the most awarded games in history.
See ya!who are you even trying to fool, you're far too asshurt to leave this thread
>>324729734
GOTY
>>324730854
>10 minutes of hitting a creature that doesn't even respond in the slightest
DD tards everyone
>>324734385
Is that supposed to be a good thing!
Disclaimer: I fucking love Witcher 3 but actual gameplay really is it's weakest aspect. I have finished the game on death marsh on my first run .
>>324733439
You've got to be joking. The difficulty literally caps out at quen cheese since dodging when you're not attacking is just so insanely easy. You're probably still in the honeymoon phase just before you slowly realize how shallow the gameplay really is. Took me about 20 hours too when I noticed that all fights felt the same and and that there was barely a point to careful preparation since everything could be murdered using the same tactic
>>324732287
But the Customization and stat building is extremely limited and barely affect the way you play. The choices you make just aren't meaningful enough.
after being shilled HoS so much, i decided to buy it, though i didnt like w3, w2 before that and w1.
>they improved on everything they ever did
ok, let's try this out, maybe it's really that better
go to point a, check the bullet board, cutscene, go to point b, cutscene, punch a shitty guy while geralt gets stuck in the pillars (win or loose, u get the same outcome, with the same exact dialogue), cutscene, go to oxenfurt, cutscene, use banham vision, fight drowner number 947834, cutscene, finally boss.
prince toad is one of the worst designed bosses i've ever seen. jump stomp and tongue with no windup, literally 3 enemy movesets (including the acid spit), encouraging spamming a clueless dodge and quen. on death march sword does shit.
i start trying out the signs, and igni fucking works, but why? just a moment ago they said the creature wasnt scared by fire, furthermore it's a toad, covered in mucus and fluids protecting him from the heat.
ill never understand shit like this
>>324731125
nope, quickdodge doesn't use stamina, rolling does.
>>324730854
God damn, Dragon Dogma truly is GOAT
>>324729734
>he plays witcher 3 on PS4
>>324731807
>Souls would still be great if it wasn't difficult
>Monster Hunter is a blast when I'm fighting tier 1 easy monsters.
Difficulty makes you actually learn the game and use your tools.
>>324734773
>he plays Witcher 3
>>324729734
>those hitboxes
This is some kind of joke, right? Like, the footage in that webm HAS to be a demo or a beta or something like that. There's NO WAY a game with this huge of a budget and one that is this universally praised has hitboxes THAT awful.
Please tell me this footage is doctored somehow. Please tell me the hitboxes in that game aren't that bad. I've never played Witcher 3, so I don't know who is telling the truth when it comes to the game's combat mechanics.
>>324730854
After hearing so much praise about Dragon Dogma, it does looks absolutely like dog shit.
>>324734910
But there is so little to learn in witcher.
>>324734932
>he plays video games
>>324729734
combat ≠gameplay
especially not in an RPG
>>324734963
There's a reason why it's always the same 5 webms posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOnh58czJWw
>>324734134
>niche
>WE WANT THE BAMHAM AUDIENCE THE RPG
>>324733036
>Wow why are you even rolling scrub the game gets REALLY hard if you only use the light attack!
>>324734741
Turn off the button guide anon. You're better than that.
>>324734497
Really? Because the GOTY is what spurred it back up. No one gave a shit about Witcher 3 the last few months until it became obvious that Bloodborne and Fallout 4 weren't going to win. And once it was confirmed the shitposting started back up again. Perception is reality and the perception is the GOTY win really did something to you fags.
>>324729734
wasted 50€ on this, the problem is that after the intro cutscene, another cutscene, tutorial and cutscene again i was well over the 2hrs to be able to refund it.
if i simply pirated it, i wouldnt be so mad for listening the shills
>>324730604
>>324730608
witcher 3 has abysmal performance on most machines. .
that's probably where all this whining comes from - if you actually play on death march and have the hardware to run it at 50+ fps, the combat is very engaging and cool.
but if you have to endure it at sub 20 fps and mash buttons on low difficulty, it sucks ass.
>>324733814
>going full alchemy
>complain about being overpowered
Of course you're fucking overpowered after swallowing 20 potions into your throat.
>>324735262
/thread
>>324735325
but anon, how am i supposed to know if I'm in bow mode or not?
>>324735391
it was patched after 1.11+
>>324731807
STALKER is also legitimately a better game on Master dificulty
>>324730608
Some parts of the game - compulsory fistfight where you're forced to fight without signs or potions against multiple opponents, I'm looking at you - are like the embodiment of the overgod of tedium here on this sorry Earth. I understand some people have a micropenis or too much free time, but why in the fuck would you want to make these segment last longer?
>>324735145
you now realize people who get upset over videogames are literally saying some zeroes next to ones are bad.
>>324735638
goddamnit, Witcher 3 was not only the best game of the last year it was also one of the best RPGs in the last fucking TEN YEARS
everyone who played it knows that now stop this fuckin troll threads
>>324733814
Isn't that just the same as Morrowind where you can get so overpowered you could run faster than the game load?
>>324735338
Why are you so caught on GoTY? This thread is discussing observable flaws with the game, i.e it's pisspoor combat. Why do you keep deflecting to GoTY and other games? Why haven't you left yet?
>>324735370
Lol no, see pic related. I run the game maxed out for 60+ fps and the game just sucks
>Weak as FUCK combat
>Limited builds/variety
>Quest structure all revolve around the cancerous witcher senses and have zero variety
>gameplay in general is mediocre
>Death March is laughable easy once you get the bare bone basics down
Ask me for any more evidence senpai, I can provide it. I've completed the game on Death March and the negative opinions have weight to them. You might disagree but if so, power to you buit don't use those laughable excuses about "IF YOU CAN RUN THE GAME AT CERTAIN FRAMES IT MAGICALLY GETS LESS SHIT", it makes you look like a desperate shill
Shit, I forgot I even had it installed until I took this screencap. So far Dragon Dogma shits all over it from what i've played so far of DD
>>324735559
Because on master difficulty the game stops randomly deciding that you missed, so you can shoot enemies in the head with SVD and expect them to die.
>>324735262
Everything gameplay wise in Witcher 3 is abysmal.
>2 choices on average for dialogue
>Choices matter no more than the most mediocre of RPGs
>Character customization is non existent (set character)
>Armor is level scaled and rendered useless by Witcher gear
>Builds are borderline non existent (you're always a variation of swordsman)
You're right, combat -ne gameplay but that's not a valid argument for Witcher 3
>>324734134
>niche
>witcher 3
This is actually what you faggots believe right?
>>324730685
except Souls gameplay only gets better with every installment excluding B teams shit
Why do people even give a fuck about GOTY awards?
For the Witcher fans it's just the icing on the cake since they already got the game they love.
People who don't like the game why do they seem like they're permanently butthurt they have to cry about it every day in an Indian poolool picture forum?
>>324731485
>Nearly dies to the easiest enemies on the game
>Cant use lock on properly
Do you actually follow this guy?
They don't care. Just like they don't care about Skyrim's awful gameplay. Gameplay is the least important thing to the modern gamer facebook audience.
>>324735487
by being aware of what finger is pressing what, anon.
>>324735923
CDPR SHILLS BTFO
>>324736039
this fucking obsession with Choices again
the best RPGs of all time had zero choices when it comes to quests and Story
but you probably started playing RPGs with Dragon Age
>>324735325
>Turn off the button guide anon. You're better than that.
Nah, it's necessary for the interaction highlight when hunting for items or gather points among the shitty graphics, as that little pale blue glow it gives below your feet is barely noticeable
>>324736282
So what is Witcher 3 does well then? You've first devalued the value of combat. And now you're devaluing the value of choices. What's next for you to devalue in order to defend this turd of an "RPG"?
>>324735487
....by aiming the bow or not aiming the bow?
>>324735923
BTFO
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>>324736282
please tell us then, if combat isnt the entirety of the gameplay and the dialogue/choice system is devoid of any quality, what is so good about the gameplay then?
The ubisoft-tier open world?
The BamHam vision that sees every quest detail for you?
>>324736146
>witcher fans got the game they love
>>324729734
We don't. It was a failure all around.
>>324736487
>and the dialogue/choice system is devoid of any quality
nice assumption, I recommend you play the game and then we talk
>>324736365
>great combat
>great storyline
>great world design
>varied quest
>fun as fuck gameplay
Now go on and cry about "baww those are not gameplay" and call everyone shill because no one agree with you even after samefagging for half a year.
>>324736282
>The game has shit combat
>"BUT GAMEPLAY ISN'T JUST COMBAT IN AN RPG"
>it also has shit choices, build variety, loot and dialogue options
>"BUT THOSE DON'T MATTER EITHER"
>>324736365
He'll probably resort to some subjective shit like "MUH STORY" even though the story is generic as fuck (A great evil needs to be stopped before they rape le mary sue ciri and grow more powerful! Oh, there's also some impending doom about to happen that gets defeated with no explanation how) or "MUH GOAT QUESTS" even though Oblivion shits on it from quest perspective as every quest in Witcher 3 literally boils down in to following red shit stains
>>324730713
It had more depth than w3 could ever hope for.
>>324736640
I'm >>324735923 btw and that's a completely accurate assessment. The choices are basic as fuck by RPG standards and you get literally 2 dialogue options on average which is literally worse than Fallout 4.
Witcher 3 does nothing better than other RPGs and is actually a lot worse than other RPGs in certain areas (combat/loot/builds/variety/dialogue/story) etc
>>324736687
Woah be careful with your sharp opinions there. They're gonna call the mod for that.
>>324736687
>>great combat
>>324733036
>play the game in MY super gimped way or you don't get to complain about ANYTHING!
>>324736689
>>324736487
>>324736365
>I'm gonna call Witcher 3 has bad combat and dialogue and treat it as facts LOOK I WON THE ARGUMENT WITCHER CONFIRMED FOR SHIT!
Nice attempt to make your first logical argument, you're almost there.
>>324730854
Why are people pretending that dragons dogma is good now that it's finally got a pic release? It's a piece of shit that I played only for 10 hours before getting so bored I couldn't continue. If you like ugly empty action games for casuals then yeah dragons dogma is great.
>>324729734
B-B-B-UT MUH STORY
>>324736687
>great combat
Nope, see: every webm/video in this thread
>great storyline
Nope, see >>324736689 & >>324730934 (Mass Effect literally blows it the fuck out)
>great world design
Generic woodland? Nope
>varied quest
Literally every quest revolves around following red shit, any Elder Scrolls game shits on it in quest variety, Oblivion especially.
>fun as fuck gameplay
Weak dialogue options
Basic consequences that any mediocre RPG has
Below average combat
Terrible build variety/replayability
Literally 1 practical weapon variety (Swords)
Literally 4-5 spells
Try again
>>324736841
well, if you actually played it all the way through and still think it's shit I really can't help you
it's an awesome and fun as fuck game, very immersive and atmospheric, just what a RPG needs to be. The combat isn't exactly my flavour either but that doesn't mean it's bad
Overall it very much reminded me of Gothic I+II, which are the very best RPGs of all time if you ask me, but well if that's not your boat that's your problem
>>324730854
Is the Dragon Dogma video supposed to show how bad the combat is?
That guy just completely clip into the dragon and start smashing attack.
And shit the UI is god awful.
>>324736841
Does anyone have that Witcher3/Morrowind comparison pick somewhere?
I remember that pic making me want to play Morrowind because the quest design was so fucking great. No arrows, no magical senses bullshit, no bread crumbs laid out as a path, no map markers, nothing. Just text that tells locations and where you need to go to do the thing.
Why the fuck is Witcher Senses even a thing
>>324737159
Examples have been given
>Bad dialogue
You get 2 choices to choose from on average, most times literaly no difference is made depending on your choice and Geralt rarely says what you choose.
>bad combat
See this whole thread for visual evidence.
>>324730934
>Defending mass effect, well into the trash your terrible opinion goes
Witcher 1 was so shit it turned me off from ever playing 2 or 3, the people playing these games have to have some kind of stockholm syndrome.
>>324737375
now do the same with Dragons Dogma, which actually looks worse than Fable 1 even in the most beautifull spots
>>324729734
do you people actually alter the source code of the game in order to make it look bad and come here to shitpost about it?
that's sad
>>324737223
see pic related. I love that about Dragons Dogma even though it still has markers, Dragon Dogma respects the player
>>324737223
>well, if you actually played it all the way through and still think it's shit I really can't help you
Played through to completion. It's a mediocre game that I played when I had nothing else to play.
>it's an awesome and fun as fuck game, very immersive and atmospheric,
This immersion/atmosphere meme needs to die, aside from the wobbly trees it does nothing that other RPGs (Shitty Bethesda ones included) haven't done. It's just a vague piece of praise that has no substance behind it and serves purely as a cop out way of praising your game.
>just what a RPG needs to be. The combat isn't exactly my flavour either but that doesn't mean it's bad
It's below average. Elder Scrolls games have god awful combat as well but at least they make up for it in variety, Souls games with their numerous builds/weapons/movesets and Dragon Dogma with its epic battles all blow it the fuck out.
>Overall it very much reminded me of Gothic I+II, which are the very best RPGs of all time if you ask me, but well if that's not your boat that's your problem
It's nothing like Gothic, this meme HAS to die. Gothic is a game that offered PURE freedom in everything you did, Witcher 3 is far more linear in its approach and restrictive.
The only simularity is literally the generic setting and eastern european developers. Gothic is NOTHING like Witcher 3.
>>324730430
That's saying absolutely nothing
>>324737554
Dragon's Dogma runs 60 fps on toasters. And it still has more impressive set pieces than Witcher 3. Any scene in Witcher 3 that has the same sense of scale as the Grigori scenes in DD? No. Nothing. It's all dry boring shit.
let's get this shit started
>>324729734
apparently Witcher 2 is free for XBONE right now
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-us/Product/The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80257520824
>>324737562
where the fuck you think you are??
>>324737908
>>324737223
>LE WITCHER 3 IS LIKE GOTHIC
FUCK this meme, there is no fucking simularities at all. Gothic allows you to kill every fucker you meet, Witcher 3 doesn't even let you attack NPCs. Fucking CDshills, the freedom Gothic provides is nowhere to be seen in Witcher 3, nowhere. Skyrim is closer to Gothci than Witcher 3 and Skyrim isn't even close.
>>324737298
See pic
>>324737996
>>324730839
There's never been a pc game with good combat. Seriously the games with the best combat are either console exclusives like ninja Gaiden black or Japanese multiplats. There has never been a pc exclusive with good combat
>>324737215
>Nope, see: every webm/video in this thread
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6UM8yLCwso
Or every other videos of the game that isn't someone glitch it up to the max
>Nope, see >>324736689 & >>324730934 (Mass Effect literally blows it the fuck out)
Nope. Witcher 3 isn't as good as 2 but it blows Mass Effect out of the water
>Generic woodland? Nope
Velen is completely different than Skellige, the swamp land is completely different than the forest, Novigrad is the best medieval city design by a long shot
>Literally every quest revolves around following red shit, any Elder Scrolls game shits on it in quest variety, Oblivion especially.
Literally false, quest could be about throwing baby into oven to lure a monster, stalking drunk vampire in the city, saving guy from some literally semon demon, finding serial murderer etc.
Try attempt kid.
>>324738031
>haha I wanna kill everybody xD
>>324729734
by getting mods that makes the game even more immersive
>>324737870
That literally looks like a PS2 game.
>>324737745
>Gothic is NOTHING like Witcher 3
oh man, I don't even know where to begin
they are so much alike, Witcher 3 could actually be from the same Devs during their glory days
those games have the very same personality even though they may look different
>ITT: mad soulsborne retards
>b-but the combat sucks!!!11 it isnt as good as the best game evur dark souls!1!1!1
>bb was the real goty!!!
Stay mad retards
>>324738279
idd
>>324738221
Which requires PS2 hardware to run. Witcher 3 is downgraded turd that still requires high-end GPU because Polacks can't code worth shit. The game runs awful on almost all platforms except high-end GPUs. Despite being a console port.
>MUH WINDY TREES
The simple fact that the game FORCES the camera on 1 ennemy just shows how bad the gameplay is.
I enjoyed tw1 and tw2 for the story and choices but here except maybe the red baron story, the main plot sux. The antagonist is the biggest shit i've ever seen. And they say cdpr got good writters ?
Play for the cinematic cutscenes ignore the combat it is a secondary aspect of the "game"
At least they moved away from QTEs.
>>324737192
The story of TW3 is pure shit, just as bad as the gutter trash gameplay. It's as if a 12 year old wrote it. The dialogue itself and the characters are okay though.
Dialogue, characters, graphics, and a select few quests. These are the only things TW3 has going for it. And they certainly don't make up for the terrible gameplay, itemization, character progression, balance, exploration, world design etc. It's such a poor game overall. It's the same quality and the same situation as Skyrim where I'm left dumbfounded that people actually consider it amazing.
>>324738269
>they are so much alike,
Then fucking elaborate because as I see it, Witcher 3 is the most casualized piece of RPG trash i've seen since Inquisition
