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perfect other than no endgame roam possible
No endgame roam.
That is literally it.
>>324251621
Koopalings were redundant and not comfy
>>324251621
Its uniqueness is uncomparable to other rpgs. The puzzles and minigames in this game are fun. Also catchy OST.
The sequels after bowsers inside story made it more new super mario bros'ed aka cancer
and twinkle or whatever the fuck the forced wacky sidekick is called, I miss the briefcase when it talked and when it didnt
>>324251621
It's not SMRPG or PM
>>324251759
they were pretty cool imo.
>>324251863
It still hasn't gotten a sequel that matches its quality
Joke's End was pretty gay also
>>324252354
best part of the game nyugguh
>>324251621
Its sequels didn't surpass it in terms of quality, and it is now the only member of its franchise that I would love to play again.
>>324252205
You're right
it's better
You fags didn't vote it no. 1 last month
>>324251621
Not enough porn of the villainess
>>324252432
>all that up and down backtracking and general annoying layout to traverse
>enemies are pain in the ass to kill
Nah best area was Woo-Hoo University I wish the Cacktella fight was also the final boss instead of her spirt
>>324252441
This. By the way, I can't understand the love for BiS. It has amazing spritework and music but combat is easy as fuck, the scenario and events are pure cringe (going as far as catering to furry deviantart users) and 80% of the game is a chore to get trough. Fuck those sequels. AlphaDream's original team must have been killed by shiggy after SSS because it's impressive how much they suck at their shtick now
>>324251683
>>324251742
these
but god, this may be one of the few legitimate 10/10 games ever
a hard mode would be even better
>>324253263
A rom-hack with a hard mode would be wonderful. I've seen a few hacks of the game, but none of interest.
>>324252441
>>324251863
DT and PJ beat out SSS in terms of art style and sprites. PiT and BiS sucked in this department (way too clean and "smooth", if it makes sense) but the 3DS games are gorgeous and amazingly animated. They finally game Mario and Luigi more personality throgh animations (and were finally given non gay ass idle animations again)
>>324252587
You're a riot.
>>324253436
Yeah, surprised nobody made it by now
>>324253458
I don't think anyone could tell you the contrary. Looking at the animations is the only reason I installed PJ & DT on my 3DS.
>>324253510
The regular Cackletta fight was pretty awesome, but too easy. Needs faster lightning, faster bats and more actions per turn.
>>324251621
i don't like mario that much
Bowser's sprite.
Literally that's it.
Paper jam is so fucking good. Much better than dream team so far.
>>324253871
i think you mean rookie
>>324252795
A lot of her in workout gear sweating though from what I recall. No idea why...
>>324253896
Wait until you have to "Find more Paper Toads" for the 20th fucking time.
Also, fuck the Iggy and Ludwig fight. That was harder than the last boss!
if there was a hard game it would be goat
>>324251621
Boring
>>324252205
Paper Mario is one thing, but how can you honestly believe Super Mario RPG is comparable to Superstar Saga?
>>324251621
Roulette style increases for stats. Other than that, a damn good game.
>>324255902
faggot
>>324255830
nigga put everything into mustache and you got yourself some challenge
I'm at the final boss on my phone and she can 1 hit my shit up if I fail to miss a single attack
>>324253458
>dream team
>good art
C'mon, man, Dream Team is probably the worst looking of the M&L games.
Anyway, the only flaw with Superstar Saga is that it's never touched on again that Luigi has Lightning powers. I want Luigi to start getting Lightning power-ups.
>>324256124
Some sprites such as Toads were weird.
Almost complete lack of sidequests.
Very easy.
Final boss battle starts you off with 1 HP and the boss is pretty fast meaning it's entirely possible she attacks first and you get wiped immediately. That's bad design, not legitimate difficulty.
The underwater area can be a bit annoying due to reduced speed I guess.
Everything else is perfect.
>>324256624
>Final boss battle starts you off with 1 HP and the boss is pretty fast meaning it's entirely possible she attacks first and you get wiped immediately. That's bad design, not legitimate difficulty.
You can avoid every attack in the game for zero damage.
fawful
Teehee valley
Piranha bean
The necessity of shoving a duo clone for tutorials
>>324251863
>Using the NSMB argument
That's doesn't change the fact that Paper Jam is ultimately the most funnest game
Peach's stupid AI Minigame fuckfest, WHOOPS AN ENEMY TOUCHED HER BETTER START OVER
The beach area in general was absolutely garbage, is the dictionary definition of filler, especially the underwater segments, it's only redeeming factor is the music, and Dream Team's beach music is a remix that beats it anyway
The entire point of the games is team up attacks, when you strip Mario and Luigi away, you can make good puzzles, but in no fucking way do you force battles, fucking No, and yet you have the battle with Piranha bean, only 1 bro, against annoying attacks that take fucking forever, and he doesn't even get a boss music
>>324253436
>hard mode
>All brothers hp is locked to 1
>Enemy attacks are 1.5x faster
>No bros moves
Would you play it?
>>324257331
Yes, and? It can easily fuck you over the first time when you don't know her attacks and there was no reason to gimp you like that. At least force one of the brothers to go first so you have a chance at healing.
>>324251683
>>324251742
Endgame roaming wouldn't add shit to it.
Started replaying this a couple of days ago.
>green monster blocks your progress unless you pay him, and then he sends you on another coin-fetch quest anyway
>that entire mountain trek
When the game's good it's pretty good - it definitely feels faster and smoother to play than the DS games. But there are parts where I really want to take a long long break and just stop playing. Something about cycling through the different powers using the shoulder buttons feels clunky, though that's on the restriction of the GBA. Maybe they should have a touch-screen inventory of moves, like in Link Between Worlds? Be able to warp to different towns? A game with the UI and dungeons of LBW with the combat and fast flow of SSS would be absolutely amazing.
From someone who has beaten it like four times since it came out.
>Generally shoddy level design, Joke's End and the underwater areas are some of the worst parts in the series.
>Lots of redundant/borderline context-sensitive field moves.
>Simplest/easiest attack patterns in the series by virtue of being the first game
>Coin blocks give you so little cash you may as well just ignore them entirely.
>Plot twist just kinda makes you feel like you wasted your time for the first half of the game.
>Only difficult part in the game is Cackletta's soul, and that's just mostly because you start the fight off at 1 HP.
>It's weird that Cackletta has some big-ass blimp thing she escapes in at the beginning, that you never visit or is ever mentioned again.
It's a great game, and it definitely does certain things better than the other games in the series (Bros attacks, no fucking navi), but the amount of dickriding it gets around here as 10/10 perfect is bizarre.
>>324251863
>>324252354
>>324257803
>there will never be another M&L game where it's just Mario and Luigi with no extra person or gimmick (The babies, Going inside Bowser, Going inside Luigi's head, Paper Mario)
>>324258318
They added selecting field moves via touch screen in Paper Jam, though you can still do it the old-fashioned way too.
>>324257803
I agree more or less
The bosses are fucking perfect in this game
>>324258474
Dream Team was just Mario and Luigi.
And SSS gimmick was the whole bean kingdom shit.
>>324260512
>Just Mario and Luigi
and dreamy luigi
The beanbean kingdom was entire world, not a gimmick
>>324253814
That's not a flaw
>>324258150
>No bros moves
No
Timing attacks aren't visible
Only 2 party members
Neither of them is Peach
Landed AlphaDream in a rut of developing a string of kusoge RPGs instead of at least TRYING to make better ones.
>>324263971
How about
>keep bros moves
>No notifications of what to push during the bros move
>No advanced bros moves or the criteria for advanced moves are doubled
>Final boss battle starts you off with 1 HP and the boss is pretty fast meaning it's entirely possible she attacks first and you get wiped immediately. That's bad design, not legitimate difficulty.
Boost your speed stats. You'll start the fight first.
>>324264645
Not something you can know in advance the first time you play if you go in blind.
>>324264645
>>324264808
>First time playing SSS
>Decide to boost only mario's spped stat
>SPD 136 by the end boss
Feels good
>Mario can use Fire without using a Fire Flower
less of a flaw in this game than the sequels but
>Mario turn, get 1 attack for 1 damage, 2 if timed correctly
>Luigi turn, get 1 attack for 1 damage, 2 if timed correctly
>Enemy turn, attacks you 20 times, each one offering a small counterattack opportunity for 1 damage
>Enemy turn, attacks you 20 times, each one offering a small counterattack opportunity for 1 damage
>Enemy turn, attacks you 20 times, each one offering a small counterattack opportunity for 1 damage
>Enemy turn, uses an ability that refreshes all other enemies' turns
So it's basically die the first time you meet any new monster huh? Okay then, into the trash you go.
>>324258150
>>324265689
How would a hard mode work for you?
>>324251621
This reminds me of the final boss starting you off at 1 HP, and 3 hours of anger frothing from my mouth.
I was used to her attacks by the time I was done with the game my thumb was still twitching from her bullshit.
>>324265837
In a game like M&L, the enemies would need different attack patterns in order to trip things up. Taking double damage would also be a means of making the game more difficult; there was already a badge that doubled damage taken and dealt.
Disabling Bro Moves takes away a feature of the game for the sake of padding out boss fights longer. I don't know how feasible sped up animations would be, given how some of them are limited by your reaction time.
Is it as good as TTYD? That's the only Mario RPG I've played, and I loved it
>>324266618
Never played Paper Mario myself, but Superstar Saga is a great game. Just be aware it suffers from some old design flaws. Play them in order.
They also have great music.
>>324266618
At least as good, though the two operate on different levels so it's probably for the best to not directly compare the two.
>>324266618
it's very different and decidedly less story-oriented but I'd say the basic game mechanics are actually better in SSS than TTYD, though overall I still like TTYD better.
Opinion time
What is the most stylish bros attack
It's bosses were garbage
Popple and Rookie 2 and Cackletta's soul were the only good ones
>>324255552
I thought the Wiggler boss fight was hardest, though I might have been underleveled as it took fucking ages for Kamek to come to the foreground.
>>324255552
I personally feel there should've been more bosses like iggy and ludwig, Buffing themselfes and debuffing you was a great mechanic, It made the fight SO MUCH more satisfying to win.
>>324266556
>>324264421
Taking double damage would be abit boring if you already have perfect reaction time. Faster animation speed added with one mistake being one or both of the bros being down
>>324267094
Cyclone Bros.
>>324267156
I actually struggled with the last Kamek fight. Not because I was getting wiped, but because I don't think I was doing enough damage. It dragged for about 15 minutes or so until I started actually using my battle cards.
>>324253232
>the scenario and events are pure cringe (going as far as catering to furry deviantart users)
wait really? which events are you talking about? I dont recall any furry pandering events in the game.
>>324267776
I'm assuming vore
SS > DT > BiS > PiT
haven't played paper jam but I would probably put it in the same level as DT. honestly if DT had all new bro moves it would be better than SS for me
>>324268264
SS > PiT > BiS > DT
>>324267776
well firstly, the whole angle of going inside bowser is actual vore.
secondly, pic related.
>>324268492
>DT at the bottom
>Only M&L game in years to have Mario and Luigi as the singular, primary play style
Your opinion isn't worth anything.
>5 more days until Paper Jam comes it
Hurry up damn it
Spoil Paper Jam for me a bit.Is the final boss Bowser?
>>324268607
What's your stance on SS and DT having crossdressing and gay jokes?
>>324268492
i cant see it. PiT had way too serious a tone and the enemies had way too much hp. i've heard that the euro and jap versions toned down the enemy hp so if thats the one you played I could see it
>>324268846yes. two bowsers, followed by one big bowser.
>>324268681
I am ordering by artstyle as I have only played like an hour of it
>>324258474
The whole point is each game has a gimmick
M&L6 will have a Peach gimmick or dare I say Wario and Waluigi
>>324268925
God fucking dammit.
>>324268949
i dreamed a thousand dreamsa and they all died before my eyes, so i know deep down i'll never hear that cry.NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAAAAAAAAAHH
>>324268949
>Mario&Luigi&Peach
>Bros Moves include Peach using her float jump to carry the bros over big gaps
FUND IT
>>324269062
The areas and the story is probably the weakest part of the game, but the bosses are fun. Trust me, I occasionally catch myself replaying the final boss.
>>324268846
I'll just spoil the whole sequence of final bosses.Papercraft Bowser, Kamek and Paper Kamek, Roy and Wendy, Larry and Ludwig, Iggy, Morton and Lemmy, Bowser and Paper Bowser and finally Bowser grows bigger (not quite giant-sized) with Paper Bowser becoming an Iron Man armor around him. They're also fully 3D.
>>324269062
The final boss is always Bowser with a gimmick
>SSS
Bowser possessed by Craka
>PiT
Bower possessed by alien mushrooms
>BIS
Dark Bowser
>DT
Dream Bowser
>PJ
3D Bowser wearing Paper Bowser and other papers to make a mech-suit
>>324268901
>the enemies had way too much hp. i've heard that the euro and jap versions toned down the enemy hp so if thats the one you played I could see it
I played the United "Double the HP" States version and had on my first playthrough (I think a year after it released) and on my second ( a few months ago) I had reached to the final boss with all of my characters as level 17.I passed princess shroob easily with infinite copy flowers + mix flowers but got destroyed by the second form of the elder sister due to a lack of 1up shrooms
>Tutorials are skippable in paper Jam
>But they use a remix of Partner's in Time
Are you fucking kidding me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXtiBi4ho8Q
>>324269268
>Bros Moves include Peach using her float jump to carry the bros over big gaps
That's literally Paper Jam
The ending.
It's basically:
>Well done. Bye.
>>324251621
Having to change special abilities for the 2 every single second was really tiresome. Also, the game becomes a chore once you're asked to go collect the bean pieces.
>>324268607
>tfw fat jokes and Fantastic Voyage are just fetishes now
Fuck everything
>>324269428
But with Peach.
>>324269413
You aint heard the battle theme before you get Paper Mario have you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYLQl98orI
>>324269319
SSS, PiT, and BIS all did it in a cool way though and didn't make it extremely dull and bland. If they handled the Bowser/Antasma duo like they handled Bowser/Cackletta, that would have been great. But now it's just becoming straight up Bowser. It doesn't help that that's the route the Paper games are going too.
>>324269272
If the game is fun at least, I'll probably be fine, but man, I'm really waiting for another perfect Mario RPG.
>>324255552
Can you guys stop pretending that the Paper Toads missions are not the second half of the game? Cause they fucking are
They are just as important and filled with variety like the 2D Segments of BiS and DT are
You want to talk shit about them, your basically talking shit about BiS and DT
They are great and varied, you will like some and you will hate some, just like the past games
Give it to me straight
Will we ever get another ACTUAL Paper Mario game?
>>324269702
Over Miyamoto's dead body.Perhaps literally.
>>324269702
No
Nintendo seems to think Mario and Luigi are holding the RPG fort for now. Paper Mario is reversed for gimmicks.
>>324269589
That theme specifically plays when Paper Mario isn't present in the party, too.You can hear it when Paper Mario gets taken away by King Boo.
The old art style is better.
BiS>SS>DT>PiT
Am I right or wrong
>>324269702
Give this to me straight. Will we ever see a Mario RPG on a home console?
>>324269876
Hold up, maybe there was a glitch because it never played for me during that section, just the normal battle music.
Reposting the Paper Jam rundown
Here's a non-bias list for those unsure
+ positive
- negative
+/- mixed
+Tutorials are all optional, your only required to listen to the battle cards one
+Gameplay is the best it's ever been, the attack animations of the newer moves are a lot more brutal
+Bosses are a lot more intense and easily the best gameplay wise, mainly because they have to be balanced to the fact that you have 3 people
+The writing is amazing, especially to the Mario universe characters and the interactions are fucking great.
+/- Toad Missions are essentially the second half of the game, every area has one, the minigames themselves range from fun to annoying, it's not bad as your bound to have Atleast 1 favorite
+/- Papercraft Mario is interesting and appreciative but it falls flat on some areas like trying to turn being the equivalent of parallel parking a truck in a one way. It's fun but its own unique way.
- Setting areas are generic, but luckily the writing and Yoko's god tier music makes it bearable
-Story is extremely simple
There you go
It's an 8.5 for me, I loved it and your going to too
>>324269990If the NX is a hybrid or two consoles sharing the library
>>324269990
If the NX is a hybrid, sure.
>>324269702
We will if Intelligent Systems lets anybody whose not C Team make a new game
Those idiots don't know how suggestions work and bullshitted over Miyamoto's suggestions
>>324269989
I wonder what spot PJ will take. It's always been hard for me to properly rank them in terms of best to worst. I just always know that I put PiT at the bottom for some reason, even though it's pretty fucking top notch.
>>324269268
I would like one where Peach is part of the team.
Mario and Lugi: Peach on the Case
>It starts with Peach reading some detective novels and hoping for her change to be a great detective
>Cut to Mushroom Kingdom and certain things start going missing. Things like Luigi loses his hat, Toadsworth loses his monocle, E. Gadd loses his tuft of hair (things like that)
Peach sees her chance to solve the case and grabs Mario to mimic love scenes &Luigi to be her Watson.
The game could introduce a Peach detective mode and use a flurry of her attacks
>>324269927
>Not having the overworld comparison being in the castle
>Not having the battle comparison against the goomba clones
>not have the bros attack comparison all fire atttacks
>>324270038
>Brutal attack animations
This is all I ever wanted to return, really.
>>324270082
>>324270097
A part of me hopes this happens, but a part of me is worried of the limitations a handheld would create for console games.
By limitations, I'm thinking map size and AI on screen, not graphics.
>>324270189
You have to remember what made Partner's in Time not as top notch as the others
It's world in general is just a hub with portals, no exploration at all
and the fact that the Bros moves were transformed into item management
I played Paper Jam already, if it needs a spot, it should be over PiT and DT
Everything about it is fucking excellent save for the overworld being generic and the story being simple (However the context demands a simple plot because of the situation)
Other than that, its gameplay is by far the best in the series, being able to run in the overworld is great, and the character interactions and writing are fucking great
>>324270252
I hope they go the playable Peach route for the next one. In PJ she has a heartfelt conversation with Paper Peach where she states she's sick of being kidnapped, it would be cool of they built upon that.
>>324270183
Do we know what the 64+TTYD team is doing?
>>324270342
Eh I just looked for pics on google. I couldn't be arsed to emulate them just to take a couple of screenshots tbqh.
>>324269589
Sounds a little like Spyro for some reason.
>>324270038
>Setting areas are generic
I loved that the area themes were in exactly the same order as Shitter Star. Fields > Desert > Le Spooky Woods > Snowy Mountains > Bowser's Castle
>>324270536
NX games.
Is Nintendo and co finally getting the hang of boss battles again?
Why the fuck does P.Mario act like Mr. Game and Watch?
>Animations only have like 2 jerky frames
>Completely silent
>Weird fucking paper outline
>>324270189
I'm already seeing and predicting third place. For me it's above BIS and PiT because I don't like BIS too much, while I've also seen others put it above DT and PiT if they don't like DT.
Something's been bothering me
I seen some shit about Paper Jam, im waiting to fully play it to not spoil myself fully on bros moves and bosses but i have to ask
Does the beach area even have a boss outside the Ludwig and Larry/Whatever Koopaling group?
Im trying to think who could possibly even be a boss, the only thing i know is what Gooper Blooper isnt in the game (Which is fucking stupid btw)
Without spoilering it, can someone tell me if the Beach area has a big Boss?
>>324270929
Yes.
And it's not what you'd expect at all.
>>324270929
A big boss? Not really, it's more like multiple bosses with low HP.
Spoiler Hint:They like football.
What do you want to see in M&L6? Some things I would like (not all at once ofc)
>Wario
>Wario&Waluigi
>Peach
>Yoshi
>Mario&Luigi using FLUDD and Poultergust 3000
>Bowser as an actual party member
>the return of Bros Moves used in battle
>>324270929
I kinda wish they'd go back to playing with new shit, honestly. The fact that it's so predictable these days is upsetting. I want more of what SSS did. Who the fuck went into that beach level for the first time and thought "Oh yeah, the boss here is definitely going to be a hermit crab with a christmas tree for a shell."
Paper Jam lets you skip tutorials
It got rid of Gyroshit controls that plagued dream team, even returning moves like Dropchopper that originally had it, got replaced with control pad
Even Papercraft Mario doesnt have Gyro, and it doesnt force you to turn your 3DS sideways
Fire Bros moves went back to being BiS style
This game by default already beats Dream Team, atleast for me
>>324271190
I'd actually be fine with gyro controls if it let you reset the fucking position. My 3DS has a default of some weird angle, which made the final large Bowser fight a nightmare.
>>324271149
To be honest, I didn't think it'd be an entire football team of Charging Chucks either. Although speaking of beach bosses, I like the Elite Trio in DT the best.
>>324270648
Not entirely though
Shitter star had a jungle
and Paper Jam has a beach area
Holy shit, the attack animations in Paper Jam are cool as fuck.
>>324253232
This isn't bait, promise. I legitimately want to know what makes super star saga better. I only played the sequels.
>>324270929
Yeah it does
You have to keep in mind, the bosses dont necessarily need to be related to the areaKing Bob-ombis in the snow area for no reason
The only correct list
BiS=SSS>PJ>DT>PiT
>>324271823
I love the Trio Attacks, they're by far my favorite non-Bros attack specials. A perfectly executed Trio Whirlgig and Trio Meteor are satisfying as fuck.
>>324271921
Him being on top of the game's mountain is a reference to Super Mario 64, it's just that the mountain also happens to be snowy.
>>324271829
He played when he was a kid, so all its flaws are easier to ignore.
I just finished BiS at about 20 hours, how long is PJ? Also is there a hard mode?
One of my favorite games ever.
Great soundtrack too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3KWrUpGe_4&ab_channel=BrawlBRSTMs3
I always hear people shit on PiT but could never understand why. I enjoyed it just as much as the others, maybe it was just me but I also remember liking it because it felt the most difficult of the games.
>>324272584
Between 25 and 30 (100% took me 45) and unfortunately only DT has a hard mode. Regular PJ is heaps harder than BIS though.
This might seem like something small, but does anyone else really love how the Mario & Luigi games make dodging/counterattacking harder by having one of the bros holding the other when they're down?
I always thought it added an extra layer of depth to the gameplay.
>>324272714
The final boss battle music was really unique, too.
>>324272714
>Bro attacks are items
It's a shit game.
>>324272827
I miss the old death reaction sounds though, Paper Jam's are just so boring when compared to them freaking out in SSS.
>>324272953
I disagree, at least on Luigi's part. Watch him freak out the next time Paper Mario and Mario get knocked out. I found it hilarious.
>>324272953
I can agree with this to a degree. It just kinda lacks the same emotion it used to have. But I do like how the animations evolved. The way Luigi slings Mario over his shoulder and still manages to hold a comically large hammer is great.
needs more starlow
>>324270038
are the enemies neat and varied or have they been NSMB'ed like Sticker Star?
>>324273440
>there will be no comic where starlow has to give luigi a blowjob in order to solve a puzzle in the dream world
>>324270929
>paper mario game
>no giant blooper boss
0/10 BELONGS IN THE TRASH
>>324272714
It's still a good game
and it arguably has the best Mario villains yet
The Shroobs were a real legitimate threat
Also it has this beauty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRLo5Zxkg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7oAgQk541k
>>324273678
Only main series enemies, but they run the whole gamut from classics to SMB2 to World to 64 (even bosses) to 3D World. Pretty much the usual amount of enemies new to M&L as usual.
>>324274476
Oh, that's okay then.
>>324273804
This isn't a Paper Mario game. The staple in Mario & Luigi is having a Wiggler boss and this game has it.
>>324273678
The problem with Sticker Star is that they still used the most generic mario enemies for it's enemy list and reskins of said enemies
Paper Jam still stays with the Mario universe, but you have a fuck ton of different enemies ranging from Chargin Chucks, to Bully's to 3D Worlds Ant Troopers and 3D land's sandmargh's, it's a lot more variety
and the best part is that enemies that appear in normal form and Paper form attack entirely different
>>324274641
>mexican shy guy
AY CARAMBA
Speaking of, what ever happened to that HD Paper Mario remake?
Did that ever get done? How is it?
>>324274641
I want to add that characters with important roles are pretty much all at their best in this game due to writing and imagination in their attack patterns in the case of enemies. Just to mention a few, Nabbit is much cooler than you'd expect, Toadette is energetic and funny and you see a mechanic/inventor side of her never shown before, the Koopalings finally speak and interact with each other and Bowser Jr was turned into one of the best-written main Mario characters.
>>324252795
>>324251742
These are correct answers. All of the games needed a little extra endgame hardmode bosses or areasalso where is my queen shroob porn god damn it
>>324272931
>Buy 99 copy flowers as early as possible
>don't even use half of them
don't be a bitch. It's much better than starting a tough battle and having to use a syrup on the second turn
>Manual saves
>Skipable tutorials
>Hidden extra things you can do in battles to get "expert" points for interesting items
>Great music
>Cutscenes are mostly short and to the point
>Great dialogue
Why aren't you playing paper jam on a CFW friendly 3ds already?
>>324275764
>having to use a syrup on the second turn
Why would you start a battle with low bp
>>324275509
>Toadette is energetic and funny
She's also kind of a bitch. Which I guess every character has to be.
>>324272714
>Bros Attacks are items, making them an annoyingly limited resource
>Completely linear story, no exploration, overworld non-existent, instead sending you directly to dungeons
>Shroobs can't talk, removing bad guy banter which is a massive part of the appeal of Mario RPG games
>Baby mechanic blows
>Awful enemy scaling without a rise in difficulty making most lategame enemies and bosses just big damage sponges
It's the worst M&L by a long shot.
>>324275765
>manual saves
I always hated that. I felt socasualwith it
>In Bowser's Castle (First Visit) You fight PapercraftKing Boo
>Before going to the woods for the second time to fight the realKing Boo
Wat
>>324275765
Because it comes out in 5 days and I wish to show my support for more things like this in the form of currency.
>>324276035
Don't forget the boss music that sounds more intense than any other boss music in M&L
>>324275865
What can I say? sometimes you forget, sometimes you don't want to waste a syrup,sometimes you use bro attacks so much you actually ran out of syrups
>>324276223
I'd be more willing to support it if it wasn't another game that has amiibo shit.
Oh well.
>>324276457
Just another game that supports completely optional content, dang. It sure must suck being a petty fucker who can't enjoy things because of optional shit.
>>324276457
At least the amiibo shit in this game doesn't restrict you or leave you without content already on the cartridge. All it is is an extra effect in battle.
>>324272714
At first I disliked it for stuff like bros attacks being items but playing it again it really is a great game and all of the areas were enjoyable. The damage sponge problem was quickly solved too with a few of POW up badges that allowed me to basically nuke any boss in a single turn when paired with red peppers. Overall a top tier game.
>>324276863
What effect?
Different cards?
>>324276457
Retard. Amiibo in this game can be completely ignored, there already is a fully-featured battle cards system. Heck, all I used amiibo cards for was selling them for money meaning they were a useful extra source of income for me.
Just you Americans wait. Paper Jam is the best game in the series. You'll forget about praising SSS and switch over as soon as you beat the game
PAPER MARIO
OR
THOUSAND YEAR DOOR?I think they're both amazing and I can't decide.
GOAT
>>324251621
>tutorials
>game for kiddies
>>324278005
TYD all day.
>>324278005
TTYD but not by much
>>324278005
PM64 is too vanilla, TTYD's writing is funnier, has better gameplay, more badges/customization, and better visuals
I like both, but TTYD is easily the better game
>superstar saga thread every day
is /v/ finally gonna stop being shit?
The other day I made a Superstar Saga mashup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNxhXY9yRIM
Thoughts?
>>324251621
I love this game, but it takes forever to get to the main overworld.
>>324278725I want to loyally serve the Shadow Queen.And maybe have her step on me.
I hope we get some good M&L generals going in Paper Jam's US launch period.
>>324256613
>C'mon, man, Dream Team is probably the worst looking of the M&L games.
>>324274617
>no scene where you fight a Wiggler and Blooper at the same time
Huge missed opportunity.
>>324251621
the unskippable tutorials that take you out of the game and place you in an obstacle course.
too easy.
no collectables and barely any sidequests.
you get the best bros. moves very early on.
fire and thunder powers feel tacked on and aren't fun to use.
aside from that it's still my 2nd favourite M&L game.
>My face whenever StarCUNT shat on Luigi for no particular reason but to be a spiteful bitch
Why has this cunt not gotten removed from these games yet. No one likes her. She's spiteful and mean and ruins the plot-progression by being a literal TELL DON'T SHOW plot-device.
>>324275765
Because the UK sucks at jokes
I just need to wait 5 more days for US
>>324280194
i feel she's more bearable in DT and PJ. she was a huge cint to Luigi in BIS.
>>324276948
cards that have slightly more powerful effect. barely noticeable and they are a pain in the arse since you need to scan the amiibo every time.
>>324280194
At least Starlow is portrayed as sassy and outspoken. Freaking princess Peach STILL shits on Luigi.
>>324280194
Yeah she's not that well done.
They want her to be sassy like a Paper Mario companion, but since Luigi, Bowser and most of the goofy, dim-witted characters are such easy targets, she comes off as a fucking cunt.
>Bowser considers her an actual friend at the end of Inside Story, but she just calls him a faggot and fucks off
>>324251621
Grinding the Harhall pants
Baddies can grind infinite random stat coffees
Personally I was a little annoyed by how they hid all the red beans near the end of the game. I cared less about the stat boost than that E Gadd item.
>>324280774
>They want her to be sassy like a Paper Mario companion
Not just that
They want a Sassy companion that doesnt need help, aside from her first encounter in BiS, and unlike NUMEROUS female Mario companions, doesnt fall in love with MarioThough her aggressive Luigi Bullying suggests she likes him more
>>324281610
>Though her aggressive Luigi Bullying suggests she likes him more
Tsundere Starlow x Luigi?
>>324281610
>Though her aggressive Luigi Bullying suggests she likes him more
How in the flying fuck does that suggest she likes Luigi?
>>324276035
>Bros Attacks are items, making them an annoyingly limited resource
I never understood this, if you ever ran out of Bros items you were doing something wrong.
Plus you can get an item that lets you have infinite attacks.
>>324272714
This game was good but the boss battle music was really unfitting.
>>324281789
There were implications that Starlow has a huge crush on Luigi.
>>324282364
Starlow is cute. CUTE!
>>324254521
Damn, you're right.Slow reply, I know.
>>324282364
Where?
>>324251621
Almost perfect.
Joke's End.
>>324282364
Too bad Luigi in M&L is gay as evidenced by SS and DT.
>>324251621
here you go OP
>>324282869
It may have be 1000% more difficult than the rest of the game but this is one of the most intense boss fights I've played in a video game.
Maybe if the difficulty curved up better in the end this fight wouldn't have been so jarring but fuck you if you think this is a flaw.
>>324279050
>about to face her
>she offers me to be her servant
>don't even think about it, accept readingly
>GAME OVER
fucking why
>>324275765
Because I don't know how good the DS and GBA emulation are, or what 3DS games actually work on the CFW 3DS. If the DS/GBA emulation is shite, what alternatives would I look to? If I have Ambassador on my 3DS, will the CFW fuck with it? Can I transfer it from an XL machine to a standard model, or vice versa? Is it more worthwhile to just buy a New 3DS and customise that? Lots of questions for vaguely tangible benefits, Anon.
>>324282670
IlikedJoke's End. It wasfunanda good challenge.
>>324283097
>Maybe if the difficulty curved up better in the end this fight wouldn't have been so jarring
thats exactly my point
>>324283097
You can end this boss in a few turns with advanced attacks.
>>324282094
>Unfitting
Its bouncy as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1LkQngjv7E
>>324280194
Literally everyone shits on Luigi in these games. The entirety of SS was a joke about how no one in the Beanbean kingdom has ever heard of him, even fucking Bowser called him "Green Stache".
>>324251621
This droning music. Literally grasping at straws here as the game is so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ppA9Y8AmHM
alright lets do this
SS>BIS>PiT
havent played DT or PJ yet
>>324283852
DT>SSS>PJ-BIS>PiT
>>324278005
I just recently came to the conclusion that TTYD is my all time favorite video game.
So probably that one.
>>324283730
>implying it's not fitting as fuck
>>324279050
>>324283158
We need a reward when accepting
>>324284085
oh god, please gouge my eyes out
>>324272714
I remember making a post once about how the color scheme was also a big issue, among others. The game uses a lot of brown and purple tones, so it feels darker and more depressing than the other games. Even something as minor as the textboxes having a slightly brown hue affects it. The only area I can recall being bright and colorful was the volcano with all the yoshis.
>>324283571
>Bowser keeps calling Luigi Green Stache in every single game
>tfw in the Dream Team he finally calls him by his real name at the end of the game
>>324251621
Easy to become broken very fast. Such that you have to willfully gimp yourself to have any sort of challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ppA9Y8AmHM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>324284602
In PJ he calls him 'Green guy', but just to mock him (he also calls Paper Mario 'other Mario'). When shit gets serious, he calls him Luigi.
>Dream Team
>Start hearing history about the dream stone
>Get to the desert to get it
>Nope Antasma and Bowser got it
>Go into the dream world to ask the Dream Stone's spirit where they are heading
>See the stone
>>>>>It tells you to shut the fuck and leave it alone
>>>>Nigga starts a giant Battle because you pissed him off
Holy shit
and don't even get me started about the fucking Zeekeeper
>>324283852
BiS=SSS>PJ>DT>PiT
>>324270038
Hours to complete it?
>>324285210
around 25-30 hours is how long it took me
>>324284602
Yeah well when Giant Luigi steals your gimmick and kicks your fucking ass in it, he deserves to be called by his real name
Goddamn Giant Bowser vs Giant Luigi was 10/10 Holy shit
Who still got their /collection/ here?
>>324285210
around 30-40 hours depending on how you pace yourself
pretty much similar to every other game except DT because that game was filled with too much fucking filler
>>324253458
Also DT and PJ have superior enemy/boss patterns, a better mix of special moves, and overall higher difficulty than the rest of the M&L games.
>>324285538
got all of them physical.
feels good.
>>324251621
too short and easey
>>324285397
It's my favorite battle in the series so far. It's a culmination of the last two games with the giant character you used in BIS turned against you and you having to face him with your current giant character. I had the biggest grin on my face the moment Bowser loses his balance and you have to grab him by the tail and spin him around. Legitimately one of the best fanservice moments in a videogame.
>>324285643
I would have gotten Dream Team physical, but then that sweet mario and luigi 3DS came out and I figured 2 birds one stone.fuck paper jam tho
>>324285397
The whole Mario series was just leading up to that battle.
>>324285779
>fuck paper jam tho
why?
>>324285847
It honestly doesn't peak my interests from what I've seen desu. That may change if I get my hands on it from a friend and play it myself, or if a demo comes out, but it just doesn't look like something I would wanna play through. Just my own hang-up tho
Anyone know if it's possible to transfer a save file from a pirated version of Paper Jam onto a legit version? I downloaded the game a few weeks ago on my CFW 3DS and want to transfer my save to the legit cartridge once that comes out.
